different strokes for different folks !!!

You said it already: the problem is when we try to categorize people into convenient boxes. I have a friend in singapore who is not gay; he has 3 lovely kids and a Thai wife. Been happily married for 13 years.

Then, once when he was partying with his wife, there happened to be a few katoey friends there. Anyway, one thing led to another and with his wifes consent, he discovered how much he likes (post op) ladyboys. He likes them to wear strap on and **** him up the arse. He could/would never consider doing this with a guy. In fact, he says that would revolt him. I could never find a category for his 'thing'. But really, there seemed no point trying to put it into a box. It's just what he personally likes. And as long as no-one gets hurt, Im fine with it.

Why not just list it as "Transgender Porn" ?

It's a box, specific and cuts out all ambiguity, dont you think?

PeeMarc argh!!! LOL

Poor guy or should I say his poor bum...ouch

<<<Gay men are not attracted to men pretending to be women. Lesbians are attracted to women, not men pretending to be women.>>>

First of all, i feel appalled by "pretending" choice of word. There's nothing "pretending" about living one's life however they wish to be.

<<<Whereas, by and large, people who are attracted to transsexuals tend to be men, attracted to a woman with some "extra gear" and should not be called gay men. >>>

In the other hand, There's a word "Trans guy" to describes a Trans FTM person, their admirers/lovers tends to be women and gay men.

<<<Would that straight man still be attracted to his transsexual girlfriend if she dressed as a man?>>>

No, real life is not the crying game. It's transsexual girlfriend, not transsexual guyfriend.

<<<In the same vein, I would think men looking for transgender women would look for FTM. What do you think?, Should transgender porn be listed as gay or straight on adult sites.>>>

Both MTF and FTM are transgendered/transsexuals. However Tranny chick with **** porn are geared toward straight audiences. while FTM trans porn gears toward to gay audience. If you say you are feeling attracted by Buck Angle ;google; then you might be a straight female or gay, even technically he was born female.

There're a few porn producers around here, you could also ask them where the money's from.

P.S. if you have spanked a monkey while watching tranny porn, don't feel guilty. You are not gay!

... yet ...

spanked "A" monkey??

or "THE Monkey?

if it's "A" monkey you could well be gay

if it's "The Monkey" you are only batting your own.

>>if it's "A" monkey you could well be gay

Actually, you should be charged for abusing an animal.

i saw this kind of porn, not 1 time tho and i didn't feel awkward watching it. sorry, i can't give you answer coz it's complicate for me to do so.

I guess for most men the decisive momentum is her appearance. As long as a man is attracted by her female attributes, I would not call him gay. That is why typical straight guys are rather attracted by transsexuals than by FTM.

And still most men have a big problem with a finger up their butt..as long as it is not their own..

Straight, but in the closet.

I'm certain a lot of men would go with another dude just once if there wasn't a massive social stigma against it.

Also PeeMarc's friend likes pegging, I'd imagine any chick could peg him, I find it hard that only post op transgenders do it for him, sounds like some weird Madonna/***** complex there.

Actually i somewhat agree with a comment above. Anybody, male or female, can have sexual experience with the same sex and count it as experiment and not being labeled as gay.

One's own sex doesn't necessarily determine what one finds sexuality attractive.

Gay's are gay because they find guys attractive, as girls lesbian for the same reason, not because of what they are themselves.

Thus a transgendered person might prefer either sex, just as a non-transgendered person does; there is no difference between either group.

I only have personal experience of a male to female transgendered person, and her own sex, has had little bearing on her preference in this respect, she still likes girls like he used to.

I can understand a difficulty when someone is only half transgendered i.e., hasn't yet had "the chop", but I would think that's not so much their issue, as everyone else's.