My friend and me knew someone from TF, he's european guy. I talked with him by phone many times and he was very funny so, I thought he's good guy, but I found that he's bad guy coz he always ask for ******* with me and also with my friend, but we said that we don't want to do like that with him coz we're not ***** girls so, just let to be as a good friends.

My friend and me dated with him for the new year party last night. I danced a lot with my friend, and we got 2 presents from there, It was very fun, but he wasn't fun with us coz many guys there came to dance with me and my friend so, he was jealous.... Umm I don't know why he felt like that coz we are just friend, not boyfriend and girlfriend.

After the bar close, My friend and me got a little drunk and wanna back home, but he said wanna be with us and sleep with us, but we don't want coz we're not ***** girls so, he was angry at us and said that we not care him, don't like him :-( and than, he pulled the present of my friend from her hands, throw to the ground and stamp it broken... She was very angry but we can't do anything with him coz we never fight and hit people before and we don't know how to say rude words in english :-( so, she just shout that " VERY BAD GUY" many farang, thai peoples and police looks at us ;-P

Umm really bad guy :-( I never have met very bad guy like this before.

name and shame!

Sounds like there could be some cultural/language misunderstandings going on. Or maybe he is just a bad guy. Can't really say. But you've written that he asked you and your friend to sleep with him many times even after you told him you just want to be friends. Perhaps, if you've told him that a couple of times already, but he still kept asking, you shouldn't have been hanging around with him.

Well, you live and learn. Just stay away from him from now on.

And I don't think there is a need to name and shame in this case. Just my personal opinion.

bad guyz, no respect for woman, dont JUDGE ppl by LOOKS

i think names should not be mnetioned here. I also think there is to much gossip and stuff going on on TF. Some times cultural shocks can be a problem and also the lack of THAI and ENG. I did not meet so many bad boys i meet most girls and they want money for sex... Yes you know i am talking about you 2!

Hey rubkordaikrab...i didn't think like you think..coz thai woman didn't at the same you think..and you should not judge the people when u meet..

Umm I really hate him now!! very bad guy that I never met a bad guy like this before... I was very angry at him coz he had throw my present to the ground ;-( I don't know what to do coz i never hit the ppl and don't know how to say bad words in english.... Ohhhh liew mak mak!

After that, I sent msn to him and I just said ASSHOLD to him, and he reply back and said that " I WILL NOT USE SAME YOU BAD WORDS, ONLY BAD LIKE YOU CAN USE IT!" Umm... bad!

Judge? how? What? See i dont understand what you are talking about? How can "I WANT MONEY FOR SEX IF WE MEET?" be anything other then money for sex? I dont judge Thai women before i meet them dont worry. All thai women not sell sex for money I KNOW dont worry but some in TF does.

Puy why do you bother to even talk to this guy MOVE ON get another one much better.

we shared expenses

Who is a hooker?

JoY_CutE's Journal and then Puy_Pretty_Girl has written as well are they the same people or were they dating this person the 2 of them?

Then the same girl write this http://www.thailandfriends.com/index.php?op=modload&name=Journal&view=journal&jid=6422&juid=13390

Thats she love some one on the internet. Not that i know what has been going on but looks like they were more then freinds. Still should not forece sex even if you are in LOVE but i think we need a FULL story her.

Puy_Pretty_Girl, she's my friend... we're not the same girl, but we had celebrate the new year party together last night.

Sorry, wrong use of the word "hooker". We don't know that anyone received money for sex - only the facts posted by rubkordaikrab.

Puy_Pretty_Girl's is telling the same story but diffrent version in the forum i am getting really confused. But i understand that both of your dates did not want as plannes good luck 2006

I've read the other stories posted now. It seems that both girls were dating someone from France, who used "bad language" with them, when they didn't want to sleep with him. I cannot help wondering, why they kept dating him, if they thought he was a bad guy.

Dodgy dates... dodgy farang... sorry your NYE party didn't turn out so great, but I guess we all gotta live and learn.

I think Loburt hits the mail on the head... damned he beats me to respond every time I read a journal I can get my teeth into, and he's already posted a comment on it!!!

Loburt, I truly believe that you are not simply "a consultant", I think you are "THE consultant!" - good work fella!

happy new year. bad experience. you get jealous pricks everywhere, yes? not just farangs

move on

not really bad, just wierd ...

I wanna sleep with you (said a number of times).

No (a number of times).

"Sounds like there could be some cultural/language misunderstandings"

huh?

Well, Thailand doesn't attract the creme de la creme of farang society.

As for whose paying for what, that shouldn't be a factor for a women saying "No".

Just glad you guys didn't let that ruin your evening!!!

Sounds like you knew this guy was bad, but you went out with him anyways. If you have the idea a guy is like that from the start, dont go out with him and definately dont get drunk around him.

Unusual night for two girls who state on their profiles that they don't drink?

ac69uk: You are bordering on pathetic. Calling me names and wanting to argue now in someone's journal. And not even arguing cogently (but I'm getting used to that from you).

READ the freak'n journal entries. The guy asked for sex before. She said NO before. What concept of "No" do you not understand? In what way is this "lead a guy on using his desire for sex as a way to fleece him for money".

So what's the point of saying this as this was clearly not the situation? To work out your own frustrations? Justify the times when you "limits ... nastyness to a few well chosen home truths."? Give us all a break. Go see a shrink rather than work therapy out with us here. We're not professionals.

After all that, then you try and limit it by "i'm not saying this is what you did last night." You are not being fair at all to JoY_CutE and Puy_Pretty_Girl. The ground was set BEFORE last night that they would never sleep together.

Apologies to everyone who has to read stuff like this.

If you put your hand into a fire, it burns. If you put your hand into a fire again, you are asking for it to be burnt. I don't advocate anyone's actions; those of the girls, or those of the guys Neither do I intend to infer any wrong-doings.

I know everyone is different, and alcohol is not the best aid to mutual understanding of eachothers cultures and desires, but it really does sound like the guy was showing form of being a bit of a git well before New Years Eve, so begs the question why BOTH go out to party with him??

Think that the Festive Spirits, and a belly full of alcohol, might calm his sexual urges towards you both? If you girls knew that he had made sexual advances independently to each of you, then why both go out with him? He has basically made it clear he wants to screw both! Second chance? Third chance? Fourth Chance?? Before torrents of abuse come in.... 2 words.... devil's advocate!!

Well, I hope that you learn from this. There are several 'not-so-nice' people around. Live and learn!! It is the only way to build up character judgement so you don't fall into the same trap again!