Stramash Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Deaths as Israeli forces storm Gaza aid ship More than 10 people have been killed after Israeli commandos stormed a convoy of ships carrying aid to the Gaza Strip, the Israeli army says. Armed forces boarded the vessels overnight, clashing with some of the 600 protesters on board. The exact location of the interception is unclear. Israel had warned the ships not to enter its territorial waters. The ships are carrying 10,000 tonnes of aid to try to break a long-standing Israeli-led blockade. Israel says its forces were attacked by activists when they got on board. "The people on the boats were very, very violent toward the soldiers," Israeli military spokeswoman Lt Col Avital Leibovich was quoted as saying by AFP news agency. Organisers of the flotilla said at least 30 people were wounded in the incident. Condemnation An Israeli government minister, Binyamin Ben-Eliezer, was reported as expressing regret for "all the fatalities". Turkey, one of whose charities is a main organiser of the flotilla, said it "strongly condemn[ed] these inhumane practices of Israel", AFP said. Turkish TV pictures taken on board the Turkish ship leading the flotilla appeared to show Israeli soldiers fighting to control passengers. The footage showed a number of people, apparently injured, lying on the ground. It is not clear whether the fighting is continuing. Al-Jazeera TV reported from the same ship that Israeli navy forces had fired and boarded the vessel, wounding the captain. The Al-Jazeera broadcast ended with a voice shouting in Hebrew, saying: "Everybody shut up!" 'Provocation' The six-ship flotilla left international waters off the coast of Cyprus on Sunday and was expected to arrive in Gaza later on Monday. Israel has said it would stop the boats, calling the campaign a "provocation intended to delegitimise Israel". An economic blockade was imposed by Israel after the Islamist movement Hamas took power in Gaza. Israel says it allows about 15,000 tones of humanitarian aid into Gaza every week. But the United Nations says this is less than a quarter of what is needed. ------------------------------------- Details still sketchy but so far definitely seems another case of over reaction by the Israeli troops. Thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiaranM Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Details still sketchy but so far definitely seems another case of over reaction by the Israeli troops.Thoughts? different day same **** .... hamas r labelled as terrorists yet israel continues to murder civilians with impunity !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiAnt Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 And... May 30, 2010 Israel stations nuclear missile subs off Iran Three German-built Israeli submarines equipped with nuclear cruise missiles are to be deployed in the Gulf near the Iranian coastline. The first has been sent in response to Israeli fears that ballistic missiles developed by Iran, Syria and Hezbollah, a political and military organisation in Lebanon, could hit sites in Israel, including air bases and missile launchers. The submarines of Flotilla 7 — Dolphin, Tekuma and Leviathan — have visited the Gulf before. But the decision has now been taken to ensure a permanent presence of at least one of the vessels. The flotilla’s commander, identified only as “Colonel Oâ€, told an Israeli newspaper: “We are an underwater assault force. We’re operating deep and far, very far, from our borders.†Each of the submarines has a crew of 35 to 50, commanded by a colonel capable of launching a nuclear cruise missile. The vessels can remain at sea for about 50 days and stay submerged up to 1,150ft below the surface for at least a week. Some of the cruise missiles are equipped with the most advanced nuclear warheads in the Israeli arsenal. The deployment is designed to act as a deterrent, gather intelligence and potentially to land Mossad agents. “We’re a solid base for collecting sensitive information, as we can stay for a long time in one place,†said a flotilla officer. The submarines could be used if Iran continues its programme to produce a nuclear bomb. “The 1,500km range of the submarines’ cruise missiles can reach any target in Iran,†said a navy officer. Apparently responding to the Israeli activity, an Iranian admiral said: “Anyone who wishes to do an evil act in the Persian Gulf will receive a forceful response from us.†Israel’s urgent need to deter the Iran-Syria-Hezbollah alliance was demonstrated last month. Ehud Barak, the defence minister, was said to have shown President Barack Obama classified satellite images of a convoy of ballistic missiles leaving Syria on the way to Hezbollah in Lebanon. Binyamin Netanyahu, the prime minister, will emphasise the danger to Obama in Washington this week. Tel Aviv, Israel’s business and defence centre, remains the most threatened city in the world, said one expert. “There are more missiles per square foot targeting Tel Aviv than any other city,†he said. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Maybe they should drop a few nukes about before anyone else nearby gets any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJTX Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Take all of that and add this (if true)... Mon, 31 May 2010 7:15p.m. Palestinian children are being sexually abused while in Israeli custody, says an international children's rights charity. Defence for Children International, based in Geneva, has collected 100 sworn affidavits from children who say they were mistreated by their captors in order to extract confessions. At least 14 of these children allege sexual abuse or threats of sexual abuse. The Israeli military has dismissed the claims. Middle Eastern news organisation Al-Jazeera reports there are currently 340 Palestinian children being held in Israeli prisons, most on convictions for throwing stones – which carries a maximum sentence of 20 years under Israeli law. Children as young as 12 are tried in military courts, which Israel says is in accordance with international law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beej Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Middle Eastern news organisation Al-Jazeera reports there are currently 340 Palestinian children being held in Israeli prisons, most on convictions for throwing stones – which carries a maximum sentence of 20 years under Israeli law. Children as young as 12 are tried in military courts, which Israel says is in accordance with international law. Is that not f**ked enough? Anyway Israel don't have nukes...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalcat Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 I'm sure those innocent rock throwing children wouldn't think about lying. No way. Next headline: "Red/Black Shirt Captives claim sexual harassment in army jail. National organizations shocked and appalled. Immediate release of all "political" prisoners demanded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beej Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmLl_Pq9SjM&feature=related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoBeIt Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 I read the news this morning.. really frustrated.. Who do they think they are.. ******* irritating!! There are some Sweds on board also.. Sweden calls on Israel to clarify aid convoy attack "If Israel has used extensive violence and killed people then it has to be seen as very serious. And it is important that there are strong reactions from both Sweden and other countries," Eriksson told news agency TT http://www.thelocal.se/26940/20100531/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiAnt Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Israel's international policy is "We really couldn't give a ****." They obviously have no intentions of even trying to placate anyone, including the West, in order to achieve a peaceful co-existence with their neighbours. Mind you, their neighbours don't want that either. They'll no doubt claim "Intelligence reports found that the aid included arms destined for Hezbollah." The Jews seem so entrenched in their "Jewish persecution", that they can no longer see that the rest of the world couldn't give a fk what religion they are, but are just sick of them just because they're total tossers. If Iran achieve a nuclear strike capability Israel will have to strike first. Iran's' just too freaky and unstable to be left to decide for themselves whether to annihilate their ancient adversary. So, give them all nukes and let em get on with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalcat Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 what about Palestinian Arabic neighbors? what are they doing to alleviate the Palestinian suffering? It's not like they dont have $$$ or land... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJTX Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.5eaf6bbb255b23063c3b3635bd5f7c52.161&show_article=1 Washington's unprecedented backing for a UN resolution for a nuclear-free Middle East that singles out Israel has both angered and deeply worried the Jewish state although officials are cagey about openly criticising their biggest ally. The resolution adopted by the United Nations on Friday calls on Israel to join the Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) and urges it to open its facilities to inspection. It also calls for a regional conference in 2012 to advance the goal of a nuclear-free Middle East. Israel is widely believed to be the only nuclear power in the Middle East, with around 200 warheads, but has maintained a policy of deliberate ambiguity about its capabilities since the mid-1960s. The document, which singles out Israel but makes no mention of Iran's controversial nuclear programme, drew a furious reaction from the Jewish state who decried it as "deeply flawed and hypocritical." But it was US backing for the resolution which has caused the most consternation among Israeli officials and commentators, who interpreted the move as "a resounding slap around the face" which has dealt a very public blow to Israel's long-accepted policy of nuclear ambiguity. Publicly, the Israel government has not criticised the US position but privately, officials expressed deep disappointment over the resolution, which Washington backed despite intensive Israeli efforts to block it. According to the top-selling Yediot Aharonot daily, the government of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was "furious with the Obama administration for having failed to prevent the resolution from passing... and for choosing to support it." "The American support for the resolution, after decades in which it supported Israel on this issue, came as a complete surprise," the paper said. "In the secret talks that Netanyahu held with Obama's men... Israel was promised that the resolution would not focus on Israel and that if it did, the Americans would vote against." The left-leaning Haaretz daily said Israel had been "sacrificed by the US on the altar of a successful conference" in what constituted "a diplomatic victory for Egypt" which has campaigned against Israel's nuclear arsenal. Five years ago, the paper recalled, Obama's predecessor George W. Bush, refused to accept parts of a draft document calling on Israel to join the NPT and dismissed the idea of holding talks to create a nuclear-free Middle East -- even at the cost of the conference's failure. The controversial resolution was passed just days ahead of a key meeting between Obama and Netanyahu aimed at restoring friendly ties between the two allies which had been soured over a dispute about Jewish settlements. But the Maariv daily said that Obama's 'last minute' invitation for Netanyahu to visit the White House had clearly been planned with the NPT review conference in mind. "It is reasonable to assume that the Americans knew they were going to deliver a blow to Israel's policy of nuclear ambiguity and that Obama wanted to try to minimize the damage," the paper said. The move draws a line under a long-held "agreement" between Israel and Washington dating back to 1969 under which the Jewish state was permitted to keep silent on its country's nuclear potential while holding back from any nuclear test. In return, Washington agreed not to exert or allow any pressure on Israel over its nuclear capabilities. "It is an undeniably negative change to US policy" with regards to Israel's nuclear programme, said Eitan Gilboa, an analyst from Bar Ilan University near Tel Aviv. Pointing to contradiction between Obama both applauding the resolution and criticising it for singling out Israel, Gilboa said Washington was "losing its leadership role because of the naive and unrealistic" outlook of its president. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiAnt Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 The thing that strikes me most, maybe you too, about all these conflicts, is that there's always just a few, be them terrorists, activists or politicians, who control all the ****, but there's like 95% of just ordinary people who have no strong opinions either way, but who just want to get along with everyone else and get on with their own lives. Whenever anyone with radical views rears his head, just kill him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakeGeneve Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Careful guys, you'll draw Moobs out of the woodwork and back into the forums posting under the guise of his better half..... The whole things belies belief! But then when it comes to Israel I guess we should never be surprised. I am unclear if the boarding occured in International or Israeli waters??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grezzzy_greer Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 The Israelis are extremely arrogant toward anyone else - dont forget that to a Jew, all other humans are actually not human at all, but almost on the level of animals...thats where they get their attitude from...its instilled in them. Why is it a surprise to anyone that when Israel suddenly and arbitrarily decides to increase its land area by taking over Palestinian homes and tossing the owners out on the street, the people get annoyed. Israel needs a good kick in the arse and told to stop its expansion, as that is the only wa the area will ever have a chance at peace. They have to give back the land they have stolen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiAnt Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Why is it a surprise to anyone that when Israel suddenly and arbitrarily decides to increase its land area by taking over Palestinian homes and tossing the owners out on the street. Being a Jew then isn't so much a freaky religion, as a business practice. Before anyone assumes anything btw, I pretty much despise any group who attains to being a group (by any name) and who feels the need to force their own outlook on others. I for one wouldn't miss Israel. Not Iran for that matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitalcat Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 BAHAHHAHAHAH How many JEWS do you know a**hole? Is a Russian Jew same as Israli Jew? Are you talking secular, reformed, or orthodox? Perhaps you are referring to the hassids? I love it when guys talk about **** you don't understand. I forgot that I shouldn't even talk to you since you ARE a lesser animal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoBeIt Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 Seems like Israel is now in the deep ****. Many countries react strong and this is unacceptable. Esp they attacked the ships in international water... how dare!!! Im curious what the US will say.. they seem abit quiet.. (surprised eh?) As Bush is now not the president anymore.. Obama will say something? Thousand of ppl are now doing the demonstration in Stockholm and many countries in EU also really angry for what ISrael done.. I would say.. "Time to Kill" PS. Ban Kimoon is such a puppy.. sad so sad.. .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANNO Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 The thing that strikes me most, maybe you too, about all these conflicts, is that there's always just a few, be them terrorists, activists or politicians, who control all the sh*t, but there's like 95% of just ordinary people who have no strong opinions either way, but who just want to get along with everyone else and get on with their own lives. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANNO Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 The Israelis are extremely arrogant toward anyone else - dont forget that to a Jew, all other humans are actually not human at all, but almost on the level of animals...thats where they get their attitude from...its instilled in them. Sorry man :roll: This one of the grossest all encompassing misstatements I have ever read here.....( Adolph and the boys live on) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stramash Posted May 31, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 The Israelis are extremely arrogant toward anyone else - dont forget that to a Jew, all other humans are actually not human at all, but almost on the level of animals...thats where they get their attitude from...its instilled in them. Sorry man :roll: This one of the grossest all encompassing misstatements I have ever read here.....( Adolph and the boys live on) I have to agree. Surprised at your comments GG. While I would agree that Israelis always seem to display a certain level of arrogance, to expand that to all Jews is a little off the mark. I know Scottish Jews (no jokes about the ultimate stinginess here) who are opposed to many of Israel's actions over the years and who are appalled at this latest barbarism. Back to the debate however... As the day has worn on, as well as increasing condemnation of the commando raid, there has been a decreasing level of credibility in Israel's claims. What this morning were reports of their soldiers definitely being shot at, have by this evening diluted down to 'a report of gunfire'. The fact that the ships were carrying aid, aid sorely needed when Israel only allows one quarter of what is needed every week, makes this even worse. On this subject, all aid should be cancelled to Israel until they allow the required amount of aid in every week and stop all further settlement expansion by their own extremists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJTX Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 The thing that strikes me most, maybe you too, about all these conflicts, is that there's always just a few, be them terrorists, activists or politicians, who control all the sh*t... Maybe, but we are the one's who keep reelecting the same politicians! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANNO Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 As the day has worn on, as well as increasing condemnation of the commando raid, there has been a decreasing level of credibility in Israel's claims. What this morning were reports of their soldiers definitely being shot at, have by this evening diluted down to 'a report of gunfire'. The fact that the ships were carrying aid, aid sorely needed when Israel only allows one quarter of what is needed every week, makes this even worse. On this subject, all aid should be cancelled to Israel until they allow the required amount of aid in every week and stop all further settlement expansion by their own extremists. + 1 (Benny and Barrach's planned meeting in Canada has been scrapped this this week. Either one calceled it, or one didn't want to deal with the fallout). To see Israel being lead by their current rash gov't; reminds me of our own recent sabre rattlers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJTX Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 (Benny and Barrach's planned meeting in Canada has been scrapped this this week. Either one calceled it, or one didn't want to deal with the fallout). According to the LA Times: President Obama has agreed to reschedule a White House meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in light of the deadly Israeli commando raid on boats bringing aid to the blockaded Gaza Strip.The White House said Obama talked by telephone with Netanyahu on Monday and that the president "understood the prime minister's decision to return immediately to Israel to deal with today's events." They were to meet Tuesday... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANNO Posted May 31, 2010 Report Share Posted May 31, 2010 (Benny and Barrach's planned meeting in Canada has been scrapped this this week. Either one calceled it, or one didn't want to deal with the fallout). According to the LA Times: President Obama has agreed to reschedule a White House meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in light of the deadly Israeli commando raid on boats bringing aid to the blockaded Gaza Strip.The White House said Obama talked by telephone with Netanyahu on Monday and that the president "understood the prime minister's decision to return immediately to Israel to deal with today's events." They were to meet Tuesday... That could be good too! I hope it comes off and the President has THE TALK with Benny...There is way to much at stake and Israel needs to smell the coffee...this PM is not moving toward any peaceful solution :x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiaranM Posted June 1, 2010 Report Share Posted June 1, 2010 I'm sure those innocent rock throwing children wouldn't think about lying. No way. get a f**king grip .... how dare kids throw stones at murdering scumbags who r illegally occupying their country !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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