Thai Girls - Before / After

[kaunitz]

People can booth their IQ up by training and to have high IQ doesn't mean you're a good person. Do you know your own country average IQ (wherever it might be)?

So, what you say is ridiculous!

Of course, IQ and "good person" are two different pairs of shoes, you are completely right on this one! Hehehe, about twenty years ago, I was tested and had an IQ of 137 - what am I now? A nerd, a d*ck, a genius, an "everybody's darling"???? I don't know! I am who I am and my friends will definitely describe me in a different way than people I worked with for a short time or those I grabbed their b*lls because they were hampering my work efforts or who thought they can take me for stupid.

But in my opinion, the statistics you brought are perfectly matching my opinion. Obviously, IQ-Tests are not only to determine the intellectual potential of an individual but also have something to do with how you were lead to problem-solving situations. Not for nothing those countries with an educational system leading you to and stimulating the holistic thinking are far better than those where the educational system is a bit more archaic (to be a bit euphemistic now).

So, how your relatively high IQ help you solve any problem in your life?

I agree with anyone who says Thai education system doesn't teach children to think for themselves BUT I don't know why and how we lost the concept, but if you do know please tell.

Well, I'm not an educational specialist but what I experienced (from my wife who is a teacher as well as from my own experience when I was invited to give a lesson or two on Austria to students from M4 to M6) I would say that teachers should not say (very simplistic now!) "Ok, you just repeat after me now" but "ok, this is the result we want to get - how would you do it?" And then, the teacher goes around class and the groups and gives advice once the group is stuck. But of course, this would mean that the students had got first the basics of what they have to work on. And it also would imply that there are not 49 students in one class! Yes, you can do it with 49 students, but you would need a longer time than with, let's say, 36.

At least this is how I was educated - and this was some decades ago (well, I'm really getting old now!). Just one simple example: The area of a circular ground. We know, it is r by r by Pi. Maths might be easier than - let's say an English text, but if students are able to calculate r=2 correctly and also r=9 correctly, they will find the solution. Again, in Maths it is easier than in other subjects, but it is possible. Not thinking leads to answers like the following (a true one): "Charles Dickens was born in 1812 and was forced to work because his father was imprisoned". Thing was that the test was put up in years in one column and activities on the second one. There was either a year given or an activity. Not only one student wrote that he died in 1859 as well as in 1870..

For me, this is a lack of common sense, sorry!

I do not blame the Thais - I am married to one (a great one!!!), and she is a MA with a post graduate degree. I blame the system. So please, don't feel attacked, this is what I for sure don't want to do!

Oh yes, my "relatively high IQ": I have no idea how it helped me in the beginning, I know how it helped me for the last about ten years but still, I don't know how it will help me for the future. As I said before: Am I a nerd, a genius, an a*shole or what? Others will decide as I never managed to get in the very high level. I am in the middle one, I am happy with it (don't like to sit on top level, I am someone who likes to get things done).

[kaunitz]

So, how your relatively high IQ help you solve any problem in your life?

As all i know my IQ is 6, down from the highs of 12 when i arrived here many months ago. My quick mouth, ability to trick people into believing what i say and can do and a sweet overhand right are what gets me through life.

Like the Thai average student - don't like to think?

[pandorea]

So, how your relatively high IQ help you solve any problem in your life?

As all i know my IQ is 6, down from the highs of 12 when i arrived here many months ago. My quick mouth, ability to trick people into believing what i say and can do and a sweet overhand right are what gets me through life.

As a previous poster said.....which BAR gal f*cked you over/robbed you/shafted you/took you for all you had, or took you for a right c*nt?

19 posts and all you can come across is as a **** who is stuck here with an angst for Thailand. The Jury is out dude.....TF party Saturday to argue your point against the dumb Thai women who socialize with farang..... at Soi 8 :wink:

Yes, join the party Mr.Stuck and let's know if you could your ability to trick StevieJR to buy you a beer. Until then, I don't believe anything you say.

[pandorea]

People can booth their IQ up by training and to have high IQ doesn't mean you're a good person. Do you know your own country average IQ (wherever it might be)?

So, what you say is ridiculous!

Of course, IQ and "good person" are two different pairs of shoes, you are completely right on this one! Hehehe, about twenty years ago, I was tested and had an IQ of 137 - what am I now? A nerd, a d*ck, a genius, an "everybody's darling"???? I don't know! I am who I am and my friends will definitely describe me in a different way than people I worked with for a short time or those I grabbed their b*lls because they were hampering my work efforts or who thought they can take me for stupid.

But in my opinion, the statistics you brought are perfectly matching my opinion. Obviously, IQ-Tests are not only to determine the intellectual potential of an individual but also have something to do with how you were lead to problem-solving situations. Not for nothing those countries with an educational system leading you to and stimulating the holistic thinking are far better than those where the educational system is a bit more archaic (to be a bit euphemistic now).

So, how your relatively high IQ help you solve any problem in your life?

I agree with anyone who says Thai education system doesn't teach children to think for themselves BUT I don't know why and how we lost the concept, but if you do know please tell.

Well, I'm not an educational specialist but what I experienced (from my wife who is a teacher as well as from my own experience when I was invited to give a lesson or two on Austria to students from M4 to M6) I would say that teachers should not say (very simplistic now!) "Ok, you just repeat after me now" but "ok, this is the result we want to get - how would you do it?" And then, the teacher goes around class and the groups and gives advice once the group is stuck. But of course, this would mean that the students had got first the basics of what they have to work on. And it also would imply that there are not 49 students in one class! Yes, you can do it with 49 students, but you would need a longer time than with, let's say, 36.

At least this is how I was educated - and this was some decades ago (well, I'm really getting old now!). Just one simple example: The area of a circular ground. We know, it is r by r by Pi. Maths might be easier than - let's say an English text, but if students are able to calculate r=2 correctly and also r=9 correctly, they will find the solution. Again, in Maths it is easier than in other subjects, but it is possible. Not thinking leads to answers like the following (a true one): "Charles Dickens was born in 1812 and was forced to work because his father was imprisoned". Thing was that the test was put up in years in one column and activities on the second one. There was either a year given or an activity. Not only one student wrote that he died in 1859 as well as in 1870..

For me, this is a lack of common sense, sorry!

I do not blame the Thais - I am married to one (a great one!!!), and she is a MA with a post graduate degree. I blame the system. So please, don't feel attacked, this is what I for sure don't want to do!

Oh yes, my "relatively high IQ": I have no idea how it helped me in the beginning, I know how it helped me for the last about ten years but still, I don't know how it will help me for the future. As I said before: Am I a nerd, a genius, an a*shole or what? Others will decide as I never managed to get in the very high level. I am in the middle one, I am happy with it (don't like to sit on top level, I am someone who likes to get things done).

Yes, I remember that "repeat after me" thing but my teachers used it in English and French classes, and as a result, my accent is terribly wrong. But I won't blame them, they did what they had been assigned to do.

My almost 7 years old nephew is in the 3rd grade now, he's pretty fast for his age. I was surprised to know that he learns many things about computer and even does mind-mapping. But what disappointed me was teachers still use the old method. He has to remember/read a lot and carry loads of homework back home, while my husband's niece (a few months older) is in the 1st grade and she knows nothing about mind-mapping and she can't explain the different between software and hardware and she doesn't learn English just yet. She never have homework. The different between these 2 kids is my nephew is very stress and he learns everything by memorizing, that little girl is happy, she has times to running around and playing. It's gonna be interesting to see how they develop from here.

Yes, I do blame the system for all stress and any failure caused to any Thai students. I have no idea how to make it better maybe it's just a thing that Thais have to live with. My granddad was in (somewhat top of) Thai education system and he fought for some changing in the system but unfortunately he didn't live long enough.

[Chatty]

Genius and Lunatic have a thin line between.

I haven't read all details that you guys post...

but I don't believe that high IQ can make this world better.

Same as high EQ score doesn't mean you are happy person.

I don't have high score of those. I'm just in the middle. You know, I'm happy with that.

Oh, forgot to thks p'Dave to put my name in the list of smart girls on TF.

[kaunitz]

People can booth their IQ up by training and to have high IQ doesn't mean you're a good person. Do you know your own country average IQ (wherever it might be)?

So, what you say is ridiculous!

Of course, IQ and "good person" are two different pairs of shoes, you are completely right on this one! Hehehe, about twenty years ago, I was tested and had an IQ of 137 - what am I now? A nerd, a d*ck, a genius, an "everybody's darling"???? I don't know! I am who I am and my friends will definitely describe me in a different way than people I worked with for a short time or those I grabbed their b*lls because they were hampering my work efforts or who thought they can take me for stupid.

But in my opinion, the statistics you brought are perfectly matching my opinion. Obviously, IQ-Tests are not only to determine the intellectual potential of an individual but also have something to do with how you were lead to problem-solving situations. Not for nothing those countries with an educational system leading you to and stimulating the holistic thinking are far better than those where the educational system is a bit more archaic (to be a bit euphemistic now).

So, how your relatively high IQ help you solve any problem in your life?

I agree with anyone who says Thai education system doesn't teach children to think for themselves BUT I don't know why and how we lost the concept, but if you do know please tell.

Well, I'm not an educational specialist but what I experienced (from my wife who is a teacher as well as from my own experience when I was invited to give a lesson or two on Austria to students from M4 to M6) I would say that teachers should not say (very simplistic now!) "Ok, you just repeat after me now" but "ok, this is the result we want to get - how would you do it?" And then, the teacher goes around class and the groups and gives advice once the group is stuck. But of course, this would mean that the students had got first the basics of what they have to work on. And it also would imply that there are not 49 students in one class! Yes, you can do it with 49 students, but you would need a longer time than with, let's say, 36.

At least this is how I was educated - and this was some decades ago (well, I'm really getting old now!). Just one simple example: The area of a circular ground. We know, it is r by r by Pi. Maths might be easier than - let's say an English text, but if students are able to calculate r=2 correctly and also r=9 correctly, they will find the solution. Again, in Maths it is easier than in other subjects, but it is possible. Not thinking leads to answers like the following (a true one): "Charles Dickens was born in 1812 and was forced to work because his father was imprisoned". Thing was that the test was put up in years in one column and activities on the second one. There was either a year given or an activity. Not only one student wrote that he died in 1859 as well as in 1870..

For me, this is a lack of common sense, sorry!

I do not blame the Thais - I am married to one (a great one!!!), and she is a MA with a post graduate degree. I blame the system. So please, don't feel attacked, this is what I for sure don't want to do!

Oh yes, my "relatively high IQ": I have no idea how it helped me in the beginning, I know how it helped me for the last about ten years but still, I don't know how it will help me for the future. As I said before: Am I a nerd, a genius, an a*shole or what? Others will decide as I never managed to get in the very high level. I am in the middle one, I am happy with it (don't like to sit on top level, I am someone who likes to get things done).

Yes, I remember that "repeat after me" thing but my teachers used it in English and French classes, and as a result, my accent is terribly wrong. But I won't blame them, they did what they had been assigned to do.

My almost 7 years old nephew is in the 3rd grade now, he's pretty fast for his age. I was surprised to know that he learns many things about computer and even does mind-mapping. But what disappointed me was teachers still use the old method. He has to remember/read a lot and carry loads of homework back home, while my husband's niece (a few months older) is in the 1st grade and she knows nothing about mind-mapping and she can't explain the different between software and hardware and she doesn't learn English just yet. She never have homework. The different between these 2 kids is my nephew is very stress and he learns everything by memorizing, that little girl is happy, she has times to running around and playing. It's gonna be interesting to see how they develop from here.

Yes, I do blame the system for all stress and any failure caused to any Thai students. I have no idea how to make it better maybe it's just a thing that Thais have to live with. My granddad was in (somewhat top of) Thai education system and he fought for some changing in the system but unfortunately he didn't live long enough.

I have an idea, but unfortunately, we all will no live long enough...

[drlovelife8]

People can booth their IQ up by training and to have high IQ doesn't mean you're a good person. Do you know your own country average IQ (wherever it might be)?

So, what you say is ridiculous!

Of course, IQ and "good person" are two different pairs of shoes, you are completely right on this one! Hehehe, about twenty years ago, I was tested and had an IQ of 137 - what am I now? A nerd, a d*ck, a genius, an "everybody's darling"???? I don't know! I am who I am and my friends will definitely describe me in a different way than people I worked with for a short time or those I grabbed their b*lls because they were hampering my work efforts or who thought they can take me for stupid.

But in my opinion, the statistics you brought are perfectly matching my opinion. Obviously, IQ-Tests are not only to determine the intellectual potential of an individual but also have something to do with how you were lead to problem-solving situations. Not for nothing those countries with an educational system leading you to and stimulating the holistic thinking are far better than those where the educational system is a bit more archaic (to be a bit euphemistic now).

So, how your relatively high IQ help you solve any problem in your life?

I agree with anyone who says Thai education system doesn't teach children to think for themselves BUT I don't know why and how we lost the concept, but if you do know please tell.

I don't believe the Thai education system ever had the concept to lose.

[StuckinBKK]

As a previous poster said.....which BAR gal f*cked you over/robbed you/shafted you/took you for all you had, or took you for a right c*nt?

19 posts and all you can come across is as a **** who is stuck here with an angst for Thailand. The Jury is out dude.....TF party Saturday to argue your point against the dumb Thai women who socialize with farang..... at Soi 8 :wink:

Only time ive been scammed by bar girls is when they ask for a whiskey, and have a cola instead.

But anyway i like Thai women's sense of fun along with their calmness and femininity but I've got a point in what i wrote, hence why I've only had attempts at personal insults thrown my way as a response.

As for the party invite, well im off to Pattaya Friday for a few days Training/detox at Fairtex, make sure whichever chick blows out the candles doesnt dribble on the cake.

[drlovelife8]

Some of the reasons for choosing Farang guys over Thai guys is the perceived better treatment, fidelity

Whatever the reasons are, usually its because its easier for them to get a relatively wealthier foreigner then a Thai which is not to say they're gold diggers as everyone likes stability in life.

But Thai women who hang around with foreigners are well aware that they will be lucky to get a guy who doesn't cheat. From what i've seen far more farang cheat here then back home, as in tenfold.

Funny how no one noted my comment on the bodies of Thai women is this correct as it is a good thing.

Just caught the last sentence.... HAHA

[drlovelife8]

As a previous poster said.....which BAR gal f*cked you over/robbed you/shafted you/took you for all you had, or took you for a right c*nt?

19 posts and all you can come across is as a **** who is stuck here with an angst for Thailand. The Jury is out dude.....TF party Saturday to argue your point against the dumb Thai women who socialize with farang..... at Soi 8 :wink:

Only time ive been scammed by bar girls is when they ask for a whiskey, and have a cola instead.

But anyway i like Thai women's sense of fun along with their calmness and femininity but I've got a point in what i wrote, hence why I've only had attempts at personal insults thrown my way as a response.

As for the party invite, well im off to Pattaya Friday for a few days Training/detox at Fairtex, make sure whichever chick blows out the candles doesnt dribble on the cake.

Don't sweat them mate. Loads of them hang out out in Cowboy from time to time but claim they don't even know where it is on these boards, they came here for temples you know.

[bigKus]

In general the Thai girls who are not hookers but associate with farang are not very bright but very easy to fcuk hence why people come here, it goes for all social classes.

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:roll: wondering what kind of THAI GIRLS that Mr. Stuck likes to associate with, bright or not bright ?? Since i am not a hooker I am helplessly fall into 'not bright' category (Hope my boss, my colleagues and my farang friends who I associate with dont read this )

[StuckinBKK]

In general the Thai girls who are not hookers but associate with farang are not very bright but very easy to fcuk hence why people come here, it goes for all social classes.

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:roll: wondering what kind of THAI GIRLS that Mr. Stuck likes to associate with, bright or not bright ?? Since i am not a hooker I am helplessly fall into 'not bright' category (Hope my boss, my colleagues and my farang friends who I associate with dont read this )

Hookers and girls who chase foreigners for a perceived better life, there is not a whole lot of difference sweetheart.

But to answer your question I hang out with my baby girl, and live a quiet life.

Though you keep coming out with insinuations, can you not debate the valid reasons i have pointed out?

[PJack]

In general the Thai girls who are not hookers but associate with farang are not very bright but very easy to fcuk hence why people come here, it goes for all social classes.

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:roll: wondering what kind of THAI GIRLS that Mr. Stuck likes to associate with, bright or not bright ?? Since i am not a hooker I am helplessly fall into 'not bright' category (Hope my boss, my colleagues and my farang friends who I associate with dont read this )

I know more than a few exceptionally bright women who like Farang guys. none of them are hookers. And I would have to admit that I have known one or 2 hookers who were not dim wits either. Not sure where that leaves us Big Kus, maybe you can sort it out

[bigKus]

Though you keep coming out with insinuations, can you not debate the valid reasons i have pointed out?

NO, because im not bright, remember ???

[bigKus]

In general the Thai girls who are not hookers but associate with farang are not very bright but very easy to fcuk hence why people come here, it goes for all social classes.

.

:roll: wondering what kind of THAI GIRLS that Mr. Stuck likes to associate with, bright or not bright ?? Since i am not a hooker I am helplessly fall into 'not bright' category (Hope my boss, my colleagues and my farang friends who I associate with dont read this )

I know more than a few exceptionally bright women who like Farang guys. none of them are hookers. And I would have to admit that I have known one or 2 hookers who were not dim wits either. Not sure where that leaves us Big Kus, maybe you can sort it out

How could I ? I fall in 'not bright' category easy to fcuk, chasing farang for my better life ( better really ?? )

Its always hurt to see / hear people, especially, foreigners who live in Thailand say something insulting to Thai girls or Thai people. (which seems unavoidable here or anywhere foreigners go )

So, there is seem impossible to see Farang man - Thai girl simply fall in love and get together. There must always be dirty farang - thai gold digger get together

[SoBeIt]

By the way, StuckinBKK, are you married?

A divorce is something i cant afford.

What can you afford?

Cheap hookers? Aha.. that's why you "StuckinBKK" :twisted:

Ps. Yes, Thai women are beautiful and also Thai men in some cases (Thai surgeons are the best!)

I'm stuckinbkk whilst waiting for a contract to start, one that pays almost as much in a month as the average UK worker earns in a year, but its still not enough to be able to afford a divorce, just a few cheap hookers as you eloquently point out.

As for Thai women not being very bright its probably got something with the absolutely appalling education system where one is taught in the same manner as i would teach a parrot.

Or maybe its got something to do with the nature of the elder generation whose wise offerings whilst often quaint are often incorrect and passed down to offspring as gospel truth, and as its the way in Thailand not too much gets questioned.

Both these aspects of the superior Thai culture could are without doubt related to the nations average Intelligence Quotient (1Q) amongst its youth being exceptionally low 88, retarded is 70-79.

http://nationmultimedia.com/2006/07/19/headlines/headlines_30009114.php

Now you may say I've just ripped your people apart but there is a lot of truth in everything I've just written. Ironically I've a child here and she won't be getting raised here for the reasons above, i believe many Thais in a financial position to do so send their offspring to study in the UK, that emphasises my point.

Mr. "StuckInTheZipper" You know what?

I like you. People say I’ve got no taste, but I like you.

It's too early for me to discuss some serious issues now.

Now, forget about the marriage, why don't you join us at "Great Minds Kink Alike" next month?

If anyway you are stuck here.

:wink:

[PJack]

In general the Thai girls who are not hookers but associate with farang are not very bright but very easy to fcuk hence why people come here, it goes for all social classes.

.

:roll: wondering what kind of THAI GIRLS that Mr. Stuck likes to associate with, bright or not bright ?? Since i am not a hooker I am helplessly fall into 'not bright' category (Hope my boss, my colleagues and my farang friends who I associate with dont read this )

I know more than a few exceptionally bright women who like Farang guys. none of them are hookers. And I would have to admit that I have known one or 2 hookers who were not dim wits either. Not sure where that leaves us Big Kus, maybe you can sort it out

How could I ? I fall in 'not bright' category easy to fcuk, chasing farang for my better life ( better really ?? )

Its always hurt to see / hear people, especially, foreigners who live in Thailand say something insulting to Thai girls or Thai people. (which seems unavoidable here or anywhere foreigners go )

So, there is seem impossible to see Farang man - Thai girl simply fall in love and get together. There must always be dirty farang - thai gold digger get together

I know lots of Farang guys working here doing well and happily married or in committed relationship together with a lovely Thai woman. In fact it is more my reality and day to day experience than dirty farang - thai gold digger. I come to TF for this drama entertainment

[SoBeIt]

So, there is seem impossible to see Farang man - Thai girl simply fall in love and get together. There must always be dirty farang - thai gold digger get together

Im StuckInSweden for a reason....

... I love "Swedish meatballs" nothing to do with love actually.

[drlovelife8]

People can booth their IQ up by training and to have high IQ doesn't mean you're a good person. Do you know your own country average IQ (wherever it might be)?

So, what you say is ridiculous!

Of course, IQ and "good person" are two different pairs of shoes, you are completely right on this one! Hehehe, about twenty years ago, I was tested and had an IQ of 137 - what am I now? A nerd, a d*ck, a genius, an "everybody's darling"???? I don't know! I am who I am and my friends will definitely describe me in a different way than people I worked with for a short time or those I grabbed their b*lls because they were hampering my work efforts or who thought they can take me for stupid.

But in my opinion, the statistics you brought are perfectly matching my opinion. Obviously, IQ-Tests are not only to determine the intellectual potential of an individual but also have something to do with how you were lead to problem-solving situations. Not for nothing those countries with an educational system leading you to and stimulating the holistic thinking are far better than those where the educational system is a bit more archaic (to be a bit euphemistic now).

So, how your relatively high IQ help you solve any problem in your life?

I agree with anyone who says Thai education system doesn't teach children to think for themselves BUT I don't know why and how we lost the concept, but if you do know please tell.

Well, I'm not an educational specialist but what I experienced (from my wife who is a teacher as well as from my own experience when I was invited to give a lesson or two on Austria to students from M4 to M6) I would say that teachers should not say (very simplistic now!) "Ok, you just repeat after me now" but "ok, this is the result we want to get - how would you do it?" And then, the teacher goes around class and the groups and gives advice once the group is stuck. But of course, this would mean that the students had got first the basics of what they have to work on. And it also would imply that there are not 49 students in one class! Yes, you can do it with 49 students, but you would need a longer time than with, let's say, 36.

At least this is how I was educated - and this was some decades ago (well, I'm really getting old now!). Just one simple example: The area of a circular ground. We know, it is r by r by Pi. Maths might be easier than - let's say an English text, but if students are able to calculate r=2 correctly and also r=9 correctly, they will find the solution. Again, in Maths it is easier than in other subjects, but it is possible. Not thinking leads to answers like the following (a true one): "Charles Dickens was born in 1812 and was forced to work because his father was imprisoned". Thing was that the test was put up in years in one column and activities on the second one. There was either a year given or an activity. Not only one student wrote that he died in 1859 as well as in 1870..

For me, this is a lack of common sense, sorry!

I do not blame the Thais - I am married to one (a great one!!!), and she is a MA with a post graduate degree. I blame the system. So please, don't feel attacked, this is what I for sure don't want to do!

Oh yes, my "relatively high IQ": I have no idea how it helped me in the beginning, I know how it helped me for the last about ten years but still, I don't know how it will help me for the future. As I said before: Am I a nerd, a genius, an a*shole or what? Others will decide as I never managed to get in the very high level. I am in the middle one, I am happy with it (don't like to sit on top level, I am someone who likes to get things done).

By reatedly doing without thinking she is showing a lack of aptitude

[English_Bob]

Hookers and girls who chase foreigners for a perceived better life, there is not a whole lot of difference sweetheart.

But to answer your question I hang out with my baby girl, and live a quiet life.

Though you keep coming out with insinuations, can you not debate the valid reasons i have pointed out?

Well let me have a go... You haven't actually made valid reasons... what you have made are unsubstantiated statements based on your experience. You might think you have made 'valid points' or 'sound reasons', but in reality you have simply stated an opinion dressed up as fact.

Inasmuch as we all have differing experiences, we can conclude that opinions are as intangible as sentiments and equally out-of-place in a reasoned argument. My personal experiences (and conclusions drawn from them) are contrary to your own.

Your theory that Thai girls who date farangs are generally of lower intellect has not been borne out by any empirical or even anecdotal evidence and therefore is without merit.

To make a valid point you would need to offer up a 'control group' with which to compare them - in this case Thai girls who DON'T hang out with farangs. Using that group you would therefore need to show that the group that dates farangs is stupider than the group that doesn't.

In reality it is very doubtful that you have had much exposure to the 'control group' and even less opportunity to address their relative intelligence in comparison to the 'test group'. I think I can safely assume my Thai is better than yours and I would never dare to judge a Thai's intelligence in their own language.

If I take the very basic premise of your argument that Thai girls search out farangs to get a better financial situation or more secure relationship, I fail to see how that would qualify them as unintelligent - I would assume it was a basic survival instinct. I might even conclude that girls who DON'T attempt to get a better life for themselves are the stupid ones.

Before a parallel is drawn between prostitution and desire for financial security (ooops too late), let us agree that part of a man's attractiveness is based upon his ability to care for, provide and protect his family. Therefore, being attracted to men who are financially well-off is not prostitution for the simple reason that the final goal is one of a long-term, loving relationship. The 'perceived wealth' is simply a PART of the man's attractiveness.

I can assure you that the concentration and mental effort needed to maintain a relationship in a second language is immense (I've done it twice in two different languages and struggled enormously). Anyone who can spend their life switching between two languages deserves respect.

Finally, as you almost certainly haven't spent much time with your 'control group', you have nothing to compare Thai girls who date farangs with.

The only conclusion to be drawn then is that, (in your opinion) Thai girls you have spent time with are stupid. No other inference can logically be made.

(Thank you, come again)

[sugar_husk]

keep it coming Mr.StuckinK this makes TF more colorful i like it

[drlovelife8]

I agree husky, I love this type of ****

[DANNO]

Hookers and girls who chase foreigners for a perceived better life, there is not a whole lot of difference sweetheart.

But to answer your question I hang out with my baby girl, and live a quiet life.

Though you keep coming out with insinuations, can you not debate the valid reasons i have pointed out?

Well let me have a go... You haven't actually made valid reasons... what you have made are unsubstantiated statements based on your experience. You might think you have made 'valid points' or 'sound reasons', but in reality you have simply stated an opinion dressed up as fact.

Inasmuch as we all have differing experiences, we can conclude that opinions are as intangible as sentiments and equally out-of-place in a reasoned argument. My personal experiences (and conclusions drawn from them) are contrary to your own.

Your theory that Thai girls who date farangs are generally of lower intellect has not been borne out by any empirical or even anecdotal evidence and therefore is without merit.

To make a valid point you would need to offer up a 'control group' with which to compare them - in this case Thai girls who DON'T hang out with farangs. Using that group you would therefore need to show that the group that dates farangs is stupider than the group that doesn't.

In reality it is very doubtful that you have had much exposure to the 'control group' and even less opportunity to address their relative intelligence in comparison to the 'test group'. I think I can safely assume my Thai is better than yours and I would never dare to judge a Thai's intelligence in their own language.

If I take the very basic premise of your argument that Thai girls search out farangs to get a better financial situation or more secure relationship, I fail to see how that would qualify them as unintelligent - I would assume it was a basic survival instinct. I might even conclude that girls who DON'T attempt to get a better life for themselves are the stupid ones.

Before a parallel is drawn between prostitution and desire for financial security (ooops too late), let us agree that part of a man's attractiveness is based upon his ability to care for, provide and protect his family. Therefore, being attracted to men who are financially well-off is not prostitution for the simple reason that the final goal is one of a long-term, loving relationship. The 'perceived wealth' is simply a PART of the man's attractiveness.

I can assure you that the concentration and mental effort needed to maintain a relationship in a second language is immense (I've done it twice in two different languages and struggled enormously). Anyone who can spend their life switching between two languages deserves respect.

Finally, as you almost certainly haven't spent much time with your 'control group', you have nothing to compare Thai girls who date farangs with.

The only conclusion to be drawn then is that, (in your opinion) Thai girls you have spent time with are stupid. No other inference can logically be made.

(Thank you, come again)

Wow Dave do you really think a scientific or empirical study has any place on TF?

--impressed with your "go" at him though :!:

[kaunitz]

By reatedly doing without thinking she is showing a lack of aptitude

Hope you don't mean my wife, because she is always complaining about the system. I am sure she is a good teacher and she even would be better once the system would allow it!

BTW: If you meant my wife, it's an insult because you are anticipating something you don't know because you don't know my wife. Being sarcastic is one thing (something I like, btw) but unfounded accusations is another -something I don't like at all!

[CiaranM]

The only conclusion to be drawn then is that, (in your opinion) Thai girls you have spent time with are stupid. No other inference can logically be made.

(Thank you, come again)

that's about all u needed to say Dave !!!

in my limited experience .... non-bar girl Thais i've met tend to be pretty well educated, fun, smart and savy .... whereas the farangs i've met who DATE (that's date not just f**k) bar girls tend to be bitter and twisted .... but as i've said that's just my experience and no control groups were involved !!!