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Yingluck won 264 of 500 parliament seats. That means that these stupid and greedy people are the majority in Thailand. There are more of them than there are of you.


lol, if we have wise ppl (not only about education na kha, I also mean ppl who have brain, moral etc.) my country mustn't be the 3rd world country.
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lol, if we have wise ppl (not only about education na kha, I also mean ppl who have brain, moral etc.) my country mustn't be the 3rd world country.

I think if Thailand only had wise people it would be a lot farther towards 1st world status :-)

Then again, if America kicked out all of the stupid people we might not have China owning our country :-)

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I attended a lecture some time ago. It was an interesting lecture from an elderly Thai academic, he'd forsaken Thailand to take up education in the United States before returning to carry out his work. Anyway, it wasn't too long before the questions posed to him turned from the cultural aspects of Thailand to the more political and he concluded that ...."Thailand was not ready for democracy". Pretty much everyone in the room nodded in agreement. I think those of us who have lived or are presently living in Thailand know why.

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Yingluck won 264 of 500 parliament seats. That means that these stupid and greedy people are the majority in Thailand. There are more of them than there are of you.



Anyone know what that actually meant in terms of % of the population? Be interesting to know whether Yingluck had a majority of voters rather than just seats.
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Anyone know what that actually meant in terms of % of the population? Be interesting to know whether Yingluck had a majority of voters rather than just seats.

37.5% as far as I can recall. But never trust anything mathematics from any Thai. It's been proven our IQ below standard and our first female PM has confirmed the fact.

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There's a big problem in that because Isaan is geographically so large, it contains a lot of provinces and consequently MPs. However, in terms of population the ratio is much smaller.

Bangkok contains almost a quarter of the population of the whole country, but produces 40% of its GDP.

The farming industry uses a massive 41% of the workforce and produces only 11% of the GDP. It's is massively inefficient, but because it uses so many people, it's like a huge union of simpletons, who believe every red word they hear.

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There's a big problem in that because Isaan is geographically so large, it contains a lot of provinces and consequently MPs. However, in terms of population the ratio is much smaller.

Bangkok contains almost a quarter of the population of the whole country, but produces 40% of its GDP.

The farming industry uses a massive 41% of the workforce and produces only 11% of the GDP. It's is massively inefficient, but because it uses so many people, it's like a huge union of simpletons, who believe every red word they hear.

Are you sure on that one? Thailand's population is 70 million and only 12 million are thought to reside in Bangkok. And that's including about a million or so who are in the country illegally or thought to be living in BKK but register their residence back in their home provence.

12/70 = 17.14%

In order for Bangkok to have 25% of the population there would need to be 17.5 million people in Bangkok. Bangkok is crowded but I don't think it's that crowded.

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Confidential my ass. People voted you to work for people, not to do "confidential" shit. Moron!

One of the good and the bad things about American society is that I could see someone punching him in the face for giving that answer if it happened in America. Americans are really touchy about the role of government and tend to believe that the government serves the people. They don't just think it, they believe it down to their core.

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Protest grows against pardon decree

Published: 18/11/2011 at 03:30 PM

Online news: Local News

Supporters of the anti-red shirt Network for Citizen Volunteers Protecting the Land gathered at Lumpini Park on Rama IV Road on Friday evening, opposing any move to pardon former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra, and the People's Alliance for Democracy announced plans for a mass protest on Monday.

Organisers said they expected many office workers from Silom Road and nearby areas to join the rally.

Tul Sithisomwong, leader of the network, called for people nationwide who disagreed with the proposed decree to sign their names to a protest list and submit it to their provincial governor on Sunday.

He said supporters of the would later gather at Government House on Monday, from 9am, and submit lists of all the names to put pressure on the government.

The People’s Alliance for Democracy plans a mass rally on Monday against the government’s proposed royal decree, PAD spokesman Panthep Puapongpan said.

Mr Panthep said supporters of the yellow-shirt people group will gather against the “law for Thaksin” in front of the Office of the Council of State from 11am to 6pm on Monday.

Further details of the rally will be confirmed on Saturday, he added.

The Council of State has the task of scrutinising the draft royal decree to ensure it does not violate the law.

Deputy Prime Minister Yongyuth Wichaidit, the interior minister, rejected the many claims by the government's opponents, media commentators, academics and the expressed worries of the business community, that the proposed King's Birthday royal pardon decree is aimed at helping fugitive former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra evade a two-year jail sentence for abuse of power while in office.

All people eligible to benefit from the decree must meet the criteria set down, therefore this law was not aimed at helping any particular person, he said. It would benefit about 25,000 people convicted of offences.

Mr Yongyuth said the cabinet did not take advantage of the distraction caused by the flood to quickly push through the controversial decree, as alleged.

Asked about the PAD protest rally on Monday, the interior minister said all people have the constitutional right of assembly.

Fugitive former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra said in an interview with Reuters at his residence in Dubai that he had no knowledge about the controversial pardon decree, Post Today website reported.

“I have no idea about it. It’s a secret issue in the cabinet meeting on Tuesday. Everything rests with the decision of the high institution,” he said.

The cabinet on Tuesday approved the royal decree seeking clemency for some convicts on His Majesty the King's birthday, Dec 5.

On Thursday, senior officials of the Thai Chamber of Commerce (TCC) and the Federation of Thai Industries (FTI) made it clear they think the government is wrong to push through its controversial decree for the annual royal pardons to mark the King's birthday on Dec 5.

TCC acting chairman Pongsak Assakul said the cabinet's timing was way off in pushing ahead at this time with a royal decree widely criticised as being intended to help fugitive former prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra.

The Pheu Thai-led coalition government should focus its priorities on rapidly solving the problems caused by the widespread flooding, rehabilitation of the flooded areas and assistance for flood victims, Mr Pongsak said.

TCC vice chairman Pornsilp Phatcharintanakul took the same tone, saying that the business sector did not want the proposed royal decree to be pushed ahead at this time.

The attempt to seek royal clemency for a group of convicts who would include Thaksin could lead to unrest in the country.

If the anti-Thaksin groups take to the streets in protest it would damage investors' confidence in the country, he said.

“The government should think of the country’s image. It should also try to ensure a balance between politics and the economic and social sectors, otherwise there could be a serious problem.

“The government should think twice about whether to move forward with the planned amnesty. It is now clearly seen that the decree is opposed by several parties and the situation could worsen,” said Mr Pornsilp.

FTI chairman Pongsak Chartsutthipol said the proposed royal decree would be both supported and opposed by the various groups, and a peaceful joint solution was needed.

“The private sector does not want to see any more pictures of conflict as it would not be good for the country.

"The government must be careful in making a decision on this matter,” he said.

In the North, the coordinator of the local United front for Democracy against Dictatorship in Uttaradit, Pannawat Nakmoon, declared that red-shirts, in fact most grassroots people in the province, supported the cabinet.

The widespread flooding had severely damaged the country and if Thaksin could just return to Thailand, he would quickly lift the country out of the flood crisis.

The former prime minister was capable of restoring confidence of both Thai and foreign investors and of preventing a recurrence of the flood, he added.

Mr Pannawat called on all parties to give Thaksin an opportunity to return home.

The UDD coordinator said Thaksin had not done any wrong thing and has to stay in foreign countries only because he was defamed by his political opponents.

“The country is now facing a crisis and is in need of capable people to deal with it. All parties should help bring Thaksin back to work for the country,” Mr Pannawat said, adding that he believed Thaksin’s return would lead to a national reconciliation.

http://www.bangkokpost.com/news/local/266899/pad-to-rally-against-decree-monday

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Pardon timing quizzed

Chamber calls move 'strange' during floods

Published: 18/11/2011 at 12:00 AM

Newspaper section: Business

Business leaders are uncomfortable with the cabinet's approval of draft royal decree for a royal pardon that could include Thaksin Shinawatra, saying it could add political risk at a time when businesses are already suffering from floods.

''It sounds strange to do a thing like this as it is not the appropriate time. People are concerned about the flooding,'' said Phongsak Assakul, acting chairman of the Thai Chamber of Commerce.

The decree approved by the cabinet on Tuesday would seek pardons for thousands of convicts on the occasion of His Majesty the King's birthday next month. However, it was worded in a way that would include people convicted of corruption, notably the self-exiled former prime minister.

Academics agree: Illegal and dangerous

The first priority for government, said Mr Pongsak, remains to push water out to sea as soon as possible.

If the government cannot manage the flood, people will be increasingly unhappy because the water is becoming polluted now.

''The mood of the people can't be good,'' he said. ''Businesspeople don't want to see the government act like this, though it has the right to propose the decree as well as make political decisions.

''As long as Thailand still has water, rehabilitation and prevention measures will not happen.''

Pornsil Patcharintanakul, the chamber's vice-chairman, said the last thing businesses needed now was a political decision that could provoke protests or even riots.

He said businesses believed the government should stay focused on the big picture and maintain a balance among political, economic and social issues. If the government cannot balance these three elements, it is failing in its political role.

''Businesses feel political risk may return again so the government should rethink [the pardon] and take the opportunity to do it better,'' he said.

''Businesses have severely damaged and have no weapons. The government has to be careful and not underestimate [the impact of its decisions].''

Akapol Sorasuchart, president of the Thailand Convention & Exhibition Bureau (TCEB), suggested the government not stir up any new political conflict again as the country has already suffered a lot from flooding.

Since the end of 2008, the tourism business including the meeting, incentive, convention and exhibition sector (Mice) has suffered a lot of negative effects from political instability.

''We have been hurt severely by the flood crisis and this should be enough. The government should focus on its reconstruction plans to revive the overall economy,'' he said.

Mr Akapol said private operators already had to deal with many business risks, and political risk would re-emerge due to the approval of the royal pardon decree.

As of Nov 15, five Mice events have been cancelled and another 19 are postponed, which means the loss of 3.23 billion baht in Mice revenues.

''Private tourism and Mice operators are trying hard to recover from the flood and we need to see the confidence of foreign tourists restored. But if political problems return, their hope for recovery will disappear,'' Mr Akapol said.

The TCEB and Mice operators have launched a campaign called ''Together We Fight for Thailand'' to help restore confidence, with a budget of 40 million baht. Operators hope to see government agencies and private firms to spend more on meetings to spur domestic activity after the floods.

http://www.bangkokpost.com/business/economics/266789/pardon-timing-quizzed

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One of the good and the bad things about American society is that I could see someone punching him in the face for giving that answer if it happened in America. Americans are really touchy about the role of government and tend to believe that the government serves the people. They don't just think it, they believe it down to their core.


and they'll punch you in the face over it.
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Has anyone noticed that all of Thaksin's friends are communist, or dictators, or elected individuals, but in countries with only one political party? Has anyone also noticed that his favorite political color is red, yet it is not his birth color?

Thaksin's ambitions are patterning Chaves when he took over Democratic Venezuela, then passed laws removing the time limit he could stay in office. He is now elected for life, with any opposition in the elections accidently suffering death for the most part. Chavez also courted the poor in his initial elections using populist platforms.

If Thaksin succeeds in getting the law changed preventing the government from having control of the yearly military reshuffle, then it is over. Luckily he failed in trying to get the media laws changed giving his wife's brother complete control over the media, but getting control of the military is a whole new ballgame. That is the only thing that stood in his way last time, and the only thing standing in his way this time, thus the need for the law change before he gets back.

His ex-deputy prime minister is now the head of the administrative court so he is safe there now from any new charges being levied. They will simply be tabled.

The real bad thing is he has shown he has no qualms about killing, and having people killed for his benefit. Him returning without going to jail, and H.M. the King at such advanced age now, the likelihood of him taking over the country completely is very high. He does think he should be the next king, and has no qualms at all in how he gets there.

The only good thing will be the baht going back to about 40-45 to the US dollar, like it was when he was in office before. A weak baht means better export competition, and he has to have outside money coming in, or he has nothing to steal.

These next few months are very dangerous times, much more so than during the demonstrations last year. As soon as he is back his sister will disband Parliament after February when his 5 year ban from politics is legally up, and call new elections, with everyone getting only one guess as to how that will turn out, then the revenge starts so there is no objections to him being in power.

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Has anyone noticed that all of Thaksin's friends are communist, or dictators, or elected individuals, but in countries with only one political party? Has anyone also noticed that his favorite political color is red, yet it is not his birth color?

Thaksin's ambitions are patterning Chaves when he took over Democratic Venezuela, then passed laws removing the time limit he could stay in office. He is now elected for life, with any opposition in the elections accidently suffering death for the most part. Chavez also courted the poor in his initial elections using populist platforms.

If Thaksin succeeds in getting the law changed preventing the government from having control of the yearly military reshuffle, then it is over. Luckily he failed in trying to get the media laws changed giving his wife's brother complete control over the media, but getting control of the military is a whole new ballgame. That is the only thing that stood in his way last time, and the only thing standing in his way this time, thus the need for the law change before he gets back.

His ex-deputy prime minister is now the head of the administrative court so he is safe there now from any new charges being levied. They will simply be tabled.

The real bad thing is he has shown he has no qualms about killing, and having people killed for his benefit. Him returning without going to jail, and H.M. the King at such advanced age now, the likelihood of him taking over the country completely is very high. He does think he should be the next king, and has no qualms at all in how he gets there.

The only good thing will be the baht going back to about 40-45 to the US dollar, like it was when he was in office before. A weak baht means better export competition, and he has to have outside money coming in, or he has nothing to steal.

These next few months are very dangerous times, much more so than during the demonstrations last year. As soon as he is back his sister will disband Parliament after February when his 5 year ban from politics is legally up, and call new elections, with everyone getting only one guess as to how that will turn out, then the revenge starts so there is no objections to him being in power.

That's a bad lookout! :(

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One of the good and the bad things about American society is that I could see someone punching him in the face for giving that answer if it happened in America. Americans are really touchy about the role of government and tend to believe that the government serves the people. They don't just think it, they believe it down to their core.


They same thing will happen in Danmark too. The government has no right to keep secret from their people unless they are doing some nasty, currupted stuffs. This puppet government is getting on my nerve and I still don't understand how some Thai people still trust them. Every thing they have done are craps. They're blaming everybody else when they did wrong. Yingluck is brainless, her cabinet is currupted and useless. The red is full of angry ignorant people. If you guys can read Thai well, try reading what the red **** been posting on the internet, you will be surprised of how Thai people can be so ignorant. The land of smile has gone!!!
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Has anyone noticed that all of Thaksin's friends are communist, or dictators, or elected individuals, but in countries with only one political party? Has anyone also noticed that his favorite political color is red, yet it is not his birth color?

Thaksin's ambitions are patterning Chaves when he took over Democratic Venezuela, then passed laws removing the time limit he could stay in office. He is now elected for life, with any opposition in the elections accidently suffering death for the most part. Chavez also courted the poor in his initial elections using populist platforms.

If Thaksin succeeds in getting the law changed preventing the government from having control of the yearly military reshuffle, then it is over. Luckily he failed in trying to get the media laws changed giving his wife's brother complete control over the media, but getting control of the military is a whole new ballgame. That is the only thing that stood in his way last time, and the only thing standing in his way this time, thus the need for the law change before he gets back.

His ex-deputy prime minister is now the head of the administrative court so he is safe there now from any new charges being levied. They will simply be tabled.

The real bad thing is he has shown he has no qualms about killing, and having people killed for his benefit. Him returning without going to jail, and H.M. the King at such advanced age now, the likelihood of him taking over the country completely is very high. He does think he should be the next king, and has no qualms at all in how he gets there.

The only good thing will be the baht going back to about 40-45 to the US dollar, like it was when he was in office before. A weak baht means better export competition, and he has to have outside money coming in, or he has nothing to steal.

These next few months are very dangerous times, much more so than during the demonstrations last year. As soon as he is back his sister will disband Parliament after February when his 5 year ban from politics is legally up, and call new elections, with everyone getting only one guess as to how that will turn out, then the revenge starts so there is no objections to him being in power.

Normally, my agreement meter ranges from 0% to maybe 80% with your posts. This is the first time I can say, I agree 100%.

One of the things that concerns me the most is that most of the problems that have brought Thaksin to the position he's in are systemic. You're not going to educate 70 million people overnight. It takes decades, generations even, to raise the level of education. You're not going to see people suddenly accumulate wealth and feel like they have a stake in what happens overnight.

The problem is that the vast majority of people in Thailand have no investment in Thailand. I'm not talking about owning land or a home (though that does help) but feeling invested in making Thailand a better place for all Thai people. Most people grow up poor and uneducated and will die poor and uneducated. Their children will grow up poor and uneducated and they will die poor an uneducated.

Why should those people care about making Thailand a better place? Many of them have figured out that the most valuable asset they own is their vote. If voting for Thaksin gets them 500 or 1000 baht and Thaksin and the PT sprinkle some crumbs left over from what they steal, it's still a better deal than voting for the Democrats who want them to work hard for the chance to move up the social ladder. Because history has shown that when too many people start crawling up the ladder someone comes and takes the ladder away and they start back at the bottom again. The Democrat's promises require a leap of faith in the government and the people have no more faith to give.

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... I still don't understand how some Thai people still trust them. .... They're blaming everybody else when they did wrong. ...... The land of smile has gone!!!

Nicky, you have lived in Europe for a long time and you have adapted. You have seen different things. Lots of Thais haven't. And taking into consideration the Thai culture, people believe what their village elders and socially higher positioned people tell them. Being at fault is a no-go, so they have to use lots of energy to find culprits, energy that is wasted because it would be better used to analyse own weaknesses and to eliminate them (yes, this is a typical European approach).

In my personal opinion, the Land of Smile has not gone yet although during my time I had to experience that this smile is rather superficial. Don't give up hope, Nicky! The situation is critical now but still, there is the possibility to get on the right track. Fot Thailand, for its people, yes, and also for its expats. I am an optimist! Of course, it would be easier if Thaksin would be the main actor in a funeral ceremony but I think that after the floods, the masses of his followers will decrease significantly. I mean, Yingluck promised recompensation for everyone but what is 30,000 Baht for someone who lost everything? We were affected by the floods, too but fortunately not completely but still, the amount granted is only a part of the damage. I am working abroad, I am a farang but what do all the people do who lost everything in 3m of flooding and don't have a farang in their family who is able to compensate for the losses??? And as I read, Yingluck was not very welcomed among the inhabitants of Don Mueang area. So, there is hope!

And concerning my first paragraph - for sure I did not want to step on anybody's toes!

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They same thing will happen in Danmark too. The government has no right to keep secret from their people unless they are doing some nasty, currupted stuffs. This puppet government is getting on my nerve and I still don't understand how some Thai people still trust them. Every thing they have done are craps. They're blaming everybody else when they did wrong. Yingluck is brainless, her cabinet is currupted and useless. The red is full of angry ignorant people. If you guys can read Thai well, try reading what the red shit been posting on the internet, you will be surprised of how Thai people can be so ignorant. The land of smile has gone!!!

Well, the government can have some secrets. I don't think everyone needs to know the codes to the US nuclear missles. :-)

But if they tell you they can't tell you what a law says before they pass it, yeah, it means that they're screwing you very hard.

If Thaksin is allowed to come back, I don't think I can sympathize with the Thai people anymore. I'm tired of hearing Thai people say, "But what can I do?" This is your country. This is your government. Take it back from the criminals. Throw them out.

The Egyptians lived under much harsher conditions than the Thais do. The Libyans lived in constant fear of their government. But when the people finally had enough they went to the streets and threw them out.

I'm not suggesting (nor would I ever hope to see) Thai people fighting in the streets but I can't see why there aren't 100,000 people sitting out in front of government house RIGHT NOW!!!! This is especially true for the people who have expressed outrage on FB, TF, or on the Thai sites but won't get off their asses and actually do something. They just complain and ask, "What can I do?"

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Well, the government can have some secrets. I don't think everyone needs to know the codes to the US nuclear missles. :-)

But if they tell you they can't tell you what a law says before they pass it, yeah, it means that they're screwing you very hard.

If Thaksin is allowed to come back, I don't think I can sympathize with the Thai people anymore. I'm tired of hearing Thai people say, "But what can I do?" This is your country. This is your government. Take it back from the criminals. Throw them out.

The Egyptians lived under much harsher conditions than the Thais do. The Libyans lived in constant fear of their government. But when the people finally had enough they went to the streets and threw them out.

I'm not suggesting (nor would I ever hope to see) Thai people fighting in the streets but I can't see why there aren't 100,000 people sitting out in front of government house RIGHT NOW!!!! This is especially true for the people who have expressed outrage on FB, TF, or on the Thai sites but won't get off their asses and actually do something. They just complain and ask, "What can I do?"



The trouble with the examples you are giving is - will it get better? My personal answer is NO! It's just another pig making its way to the food bucket. Look at Iraq and also (partially) at Afghanistan. Right now, whereever formerly stong governments, might they have been bad or even very bad according to democratic and human rights standards, have been overthrown, the result was even worse. In Egypt and Tunisia and Libya and all those countries affected (maybe soon Syria), noone is capable (and/or willing) to improve the situation, it's just about power and access to funds and resources.
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The trouble with the examples you are giving is - will it get better? My personal answer is NO! It's just another pig making its way to the food bucket. Look at Iraq and also (partially) at Afghanistan. Right now, whereever formerly stong governments, might they have been bad or even very bad according to democratic and human rights standards, have been overthrown, the result was even worse. In Egypt and Tunisia and Libya and all those countries affected (maybe soon Syria), noone is capable (and/or willing) to improve the situation, it's just about power and access to funds and resources.

The goal doesn't have to be removal (though I mentioned that). It can be more simple. 100,000 people sitting in front of government house and demanding more from the government would be a very powerful message. Sort of Occupy Wall Street for Thailand.

Thai politicians aren't used to having the people stand up to them. The army isn't going to get involved. They're not hot on this government anyway. Just thousands of people stirring up enough trouble and media exposure to force the government to do its job instead of worrying about getting rich.

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Just thousands of people stirring up enough trouble and media exposure to force the government to do its job instead of worrying about getting rich.


That's a good idea but still I think that it is not feasible because whoever is at power would not work for the people but for his own pockets.

Time has changed, unfortunately. I remember an anectode from one of the Austrian post-war governments (early 50's) where the PM was abroad and his deputy took a decision. Whe the PM came back, he did not like this decision and asked why it was taken. So his deputy told him that this decision was popular. The answer of the PM was (translated and not to the word): "Aaah, now we do what is popular? I was used to do what is the right thing"
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Well, the government can have some secrets. I don't think everyone needs to know the codes to the US nuclear missles. :-)

But if they tell you they can't tell you what a law says before they pass it, yeah, it means that they're screwing you very hard.

If Thaksin is allowed to come back, I don't think I can sympathize with the Thai people anymore. I'm tired of hearing Thai people say, "But what can I do?" This is your country. This is your government. Take it back from the criminals. Throw them out.

The Egyptians lived under much harsher conditions than the Thais do. The Libyans lived in constant fear of their government. But when the people finally had enough they went to the streets and threw them out.

I'm not suggesting (nor would I ever hope to see) Thai people fighting in the streets but I can't see why there aren't 100,000 people sitting out in front of government house RIGHT NOW!!!! This is especially true for the people who have expressed outrage on FB, TF, or on the Thai sites but won't get off their asses and actually do something. They just complain and ask, "What can I do?"


Good point Bill. I was hoping the same but you know how we are, "but what can I do?" attitude + mai pen rai seem to get the best of us, Thai. The worse part is many (or even majority) don't really give a damn. They're waiting for the Karma do the job, Bullock, I say. Then some Thai don't like politics, they don't care and ignore politics. The yellow shirt ppl don't do anything because they fear for what the government will do to them.

As you might have noticed I post **** loads about the government on FB. I got some Thai on my "friends" post something in Thai (nasty Thai langlauge) saying how they dislike what I've been posting. This is how we, Thai, are. I used to be sensitive about that, but now i just tell them in the most polite way possible that they can go watching dog mating.
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That's a good idea but still I think that it is not feasible because whoever is at power would not work for the people but for his own pockets.

Time has changed, unfortunately. I remember an anectode from one of the Austrian post-war governments (early 50's) where the PM was abroad and his deputy took a decision. Whe the PM came back, he did not like this decision and asked why it was taken. So his deputy told him that this decision was popular. The answer of the PM was (translated and not to the word): "Aaah, now we do what is popular? I was used to do what is the right thing"

I agree on part of this but one of the problems is that the government is used to the people just rolling over. I mean, what kind of balls did it take to try and pass this while people's homes are still flooded? That's how little respect they have for the people. The people need to earn back some respect by standing up for themselves.

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