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¼Ã¤Ô´ÇèÒ Ã´ÑáÅѺä»àÃ×çä·Â»Õ˹éÒà´×ù¡ØÃÀҾѹ¸ì à¾ÃÒÃÇèÒ ¡ØÃÀҾѹ¸ì·Õè·íÒ§Ò¹ÃÕÇѹÃÂØè´ÊçÇѹ àªè¹ Çѹ¨Ñ¹·Ãì·Õè ñò à»ç¹Çѹà¡Ô´¢Ã§»ÃøҹҸԻ´Õ Lincoln áÅéÇ¡ç Çѹ¨Ñ¹·Ãì·Õè ñù à»ç¹Çѹà¡Ô´¢Ã§»ÃøҹҸԻ´Õ Washington

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Did u copy from ur paper? im sure someone wrote it to you and then u just copy and paste it here :lol:

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¼Ã¤Ô´ÇèÒ Ã´ÑáÅѺä»àÃ×çä·Â»Õ˹éÒà´×ù¡ØÃÀҾѹ¸ì à¾ÃÒÃÇèÒ ¡ØÃÀҾѹ¸ì·Õè·íÒ§Ò¹ÃÕÇѹÃÂØè´ÊçÇѹ ¤×à Çѹ¨Ñ¹·Ãì·Õè ññ à»ç¹Çѹà¡Ô´¢Ã§»ÃøҹҸԻ´Õ Lincoln áÅéÇ¡ç Çѹ¨Ñ¹·Ãì·Õè ñù à»ç¹Çѹà¡Ô´¢Ã§»ÃøҹҸԻ´Õ Washington

Çѹ¨Ñ¹·Ãì·Õè ññ à»ç¹ÇѹËÂØ´¢éÒÃÒª¡ÒÃá·¹Çѹà¡Ô´¨ÃÔ§¢Ã§»ÃøҹҸԻ´Õ Lincoln áÅéÇ¡ç Çѹ¨Ñ¹·Ãì·Õè ñù à»ç¹ÇѹËÂØ´¢éÒÃÒª¡ÒÃá·¹Çѹà¡Ô´¨ÃÔ§¢Ã§»ÃøҹҸԻ´Õ Washington

Because everyone knows that Lincoln's birthday is the 12th and Washington's is the 22nd of February.

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The question goes out to I_love_som_tam, Rooblaw and condotown:

How long and what methods you have used to study thai writing?

Some say that "best to learn writing at the same time you start studying the speaking", some say "learn first to speak good and good word knowledge then the writing is easier"...But I am interested in your three guys experience how you have learned it, how many years etc etc.

Thanks a lot for the trouble. :)

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The question goes out to I_love_som_tam, Rooblaw and condotown:

How long and what methods you have used to study thai writing?

Some say that "best to learn writing at the same time you start studying the speaking", some say "learn first to speak good and good word knowledge then the writing is easier"...But I am interested in your three guys experience how you have learned it, how many years etc etc.

Thanks a lot for the trouble. :)

There are no shortcuts, my friend. Hours and hours of exposure is what it takes. But it does finally get easier when you reach a certain level of proficiency. Almost all of mine is self taught, but I have taken four sixty hour courses at www.aaathai.com

Unfortunately, I still speak Thai like a retarded four year old child.

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àÇÅÒÇèҧ㹡Ãا෾à ôÑêú仺éÒ¹àÎÎÒáÅÃÎÒ÷ÕèÅÒ´¾ÃéÒÇ

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áµè ¶éÒÃÕâáÒÊä´é

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"¶éÒÃÕâáÒÊ" That's even better. Sorry I don't have Thai keyboards so I peply in English.

These threads might be helpful

http://www.thailandfriends.com/index.php?name=DB_phpBB2&file=viewtopic&p=107120#107120&sid=122d0be4a91cd25a36dc7d03adca2fb2&&sid=122d0be4a91cd25a36dc7d03adca2fb2

http://www.thailandfriends.com/index.php?name=DB_phpBB2&file=viewtopic&p=116109#116109&sid=3b6ac3dea24aea83fb3603cb8545b5ce&&sid=3b6ac3dea24aea83fb3603cb8545b5ce

However, writing with a pen and paper is far more important when practicing grasping the grammer and spelling, â´Â੾Òà µÑÇÊ¡´ (final consonants)

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Because . . . Lincoln's birthday is the 12th and Washington's is the 22nd of February.

â´Â»¡µÔà©ÅÔéÅçÇѹ¨Ñ¹·Ãì

àÇÅÒª×èÃàÊÕ§µÒÂáÅéÇÃÕÇѹà¡Ô´ ÊèǹãË­èÇѹÃÂØè´ã¹ÊËÃÑ°ÃàÃÃÔ¡Òà©ÅÔéÅçÇѹ¨Ñ¹·Ãì

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Çѹà¡Ô´»ÃøҹҸԺ´Õ áÅà ÇѹËÂØ´ äÃèàËÃ×ù¡Ñ¹

·Õè·íҧҹôÑà ·Ø¡æ »ÕÃÕÇѹËÂØ´ ñò Çѹ + One personal holiday, for a total of 13 paid holidays per year.

ÃÑ°ºÒŢçÃÑ°á¤ÅÔ¿ÃÃìà¹Õ áÅà ÃÑ°ºÒŢçÊËÃÑ°ÃàÃÃÔ¡Ò (Federal Government) äÃèàËÃ×ù¡Ñ¹ ¤×à Çѹ»ÃøҹҸԺ´Õ (Presidents Day) combines both Washington and Lincoln's Birthday into one holiday, which is celebrated on third Monday of February each year, regardless of actual birthday.

2007 California State Holiday Schedule

This schedule shows those holidays on which all California State Offices will be closed

Monday, January 1 - New Year's Day

Monday, January 15 - Martin Luther King Jr. Day - à©ÅÔéÅçÇѹ¨Ñ¹·Ãì·Ø¡æ »Õ

Monday, February 12 - Lincoln's Birthday - à©ÅÔéÅçÇѹ¨Ñ¹·Ãì·Ø¡æ »Õ

Monday, February 19 - Washington's Birthday - à©ÅÔéÅçÇѹ¨Ñ¹·Ãì·Ø¡æ »Õ

Monday, May 28 - Memorial Day

Wednesday July 4 - Independence Day

Monday, September 3 - Labor Day - à©ÅÔéÅçÇѹ¨Ñ¹·Ãì·Ø¡æ »Õ

Monday, October 8 - Columbus Day

Monday, November 12 - Veteran's Day** (observed)

(Holiday falls on Sunday, so celebrate on Monday)

Thursday, November 22 - Thanksgiving Day - Çѹ¢Ãº¤Ø³¾ÃÃà¨éÒ à©ÅÔéÅçÇѹ¾ÄËÑʺ´Õ·Ø¡æ »Õ

Friday, November 23 - Day after Thanksgiving

Tuesday, December 25 - Christmas Day

¶éÒÇѹËÂØ´à»ç¹ÇѹàÊÒÃì , it becomes a floater holiday which can be used at anytime.

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Wednesday July 4 - Independence Day

Hi, how ppl feeling using "ÇѹªÒµ" for any countries independence day? That's what Thai teacher, natural thai, told the class last week before Finland had it's Independence Day. (Just popping in, not knowing at all what is the "topic"... :oops: :oops: please dont kill me)

Ok, carry on ppl.

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Çѹà¡Ô´»ÃøҹҸԺ´Õ áÅà ÇѹËÂØ´ äÃèàËÃ×ù¡Ñ¹

·Õè·íҧҹôÑà ·Ø¡æ »ÕÃÕÇѹËÂØ´ ñò Çѹ + One personal holiday, for a total of 13 paid holidays per year.

ÃÑ°ºÒŢçÃÑ°á¤ÅÔ¿ÃÃìà¹Õ áÅà ÃÑ°ºÒŢçÊËÃÑ°ÃàÃÃÔ¡Ò (Federal Government) äÃèàËÃ×ù¡Ñ¹ ¤×à Çѹ»ÃøҹҸԺ´Õ (Presidents Day) combines both Washington and Lincoln's Birthday into one holiday, which is celebrated on third Monday of February each year, regardless of actual birthday.

2007 California State Holiday Schedule

This schedule shows those holidays on which all California State Offices will be closed

Monday, January 1 - New Year's Day

Monday, January 15 - Martin Luther King Jr. Day - à©ÅÔéÅçÇѹ¨Ñ¹·Ãì·Ø¡æ »Õ

Monday, February 12 - Lincoln's Birthday - à©ÅÔéÅçÇѹ¨Ñ¹·Ãì·Ø¡æ »Õ

Monday, February 19 - Washington's Birthday - à©ÅÔéÅçÇѹ¨Ñ¹·Ãì·Ø¡æ »Õ

Monday, May 28 - Memorial Day

Wednesday July 4 - Independence Day

Monday, September 3 - Labor Day - à©ÅÔéÅçÇѹ¨Ñ¹·Ãì·Ø¡æ »Õ

Monday, October 8 - Columbus Day

Monday, November 12 - Veteran's Day** (observed)

(Holiday falls on Sunday, so celebrate on Monday)

Thursday, November 22 - Thanksgiving Day - Çѹ¢Ãº¤Ø³¾ÃÃà¨éÒ à©ÅÔéÅçÇѹ¾ÄËÑʺ´Õ·Ø¡æ »Õ

Friday, November 23 - Day after Thanksgiving

Tuesday, December 25 - Christmas Day

¶éÒÇѹËÂØ´à»ç¹ÇѹàÊÒÃì , it becomes a floater holiday which can be used at anytime.

I still insist that all those Monday holidays are ª´àªÂ except for the rare years when they fall on the actual day that is being remembered.

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Wednesday July 4 - Independence Day

Hi, how ppl feeling using "ÇѹªÒµ" for any countries independence day?

¶Ù¡µéç¹Ã¤ÃѺ

áµèà¢Õ¹¼Ô´Ë¹èÃÂ

ÇѹªÒµÔ

àªè¹ ªÒǵèÒ§ªÒµÔ ¤¹µèÒ§ªÒµÔ ÇѹªÒµÔ ÃÃ…Ã

ÇѹªÒµÔ¢Ã§ÊËÃÑ°ÃàÃÃÔ¡Òà»ç¹ Çѹ·Õè ô ¡Ã¡®Ò¤¹ ·Ø¡æ »Õ

µÒèÃÔ§ »ÃÃà·ÈÊËÃÑ°ÃàÃÃÔ¡Òà¡Ô´ Çѹ·Õè ô ¡Ã¡®Ò¤¹ ¾.È. òóñù (1776) »ÃÃÃÒ³ÊçÃéÃÂÊÒÃÊÔº»Õ¡èù

¤Ø³¨ÃËì¹ Hancock à«ç¹ª×èà ¹Õé <--- Click Here

áÅéÇ¡ç ö俿éÒʶҹÕʹÒáÕÌÒáË觪ҵÔ ã¡Åéæ àÃçà »Õ à¤

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Wednesday July 4 - Independence Day

Hi, how ppl feeling using "ÇѹªÒµ" for any countries independence day?

¶Ù¡µéç¹Ã¤ÃѺ

áµèà¢Õ¹¼Ô´Ë¹èÃÂ

ÇѹªÒµÔ

àªè¹ ªÒǵèÒ§ªÒµÔ ¤¹µèÒ§ªÒµÔ ÇѹªÒµÔ ÃÃ…Ã

ÇѹªÒµÔ¢Ã§ÊËÃÑ°ÃàÃÃÔ¡Òà»ç¹ Çѹ·Õè ô ¡Ã¡®Ò¤¹ ·Ø¡æ »Õ

µÒèÃÔ§ »ÃÃà·ÈÊËÃÑ°ÃàÃÃÔ¡Òà¡Ô´ Çѹ·Õè ô ¡Ã¡®Ò¤¹ ¾.È. òóñù (1776) »ÃÃÃÒ³ÊçÃéÃÂÊÒÃÊÔº»Õ¡èù

¤Ø³¨ÃËì¹ Hancock à«ç¹ª×èà ¹Õé <--- Click Here

áÅéÇ¡ç ö俿éÒʶҹÕʹÒáÕÌÒáË觪ҵÔ ã¡Åéæ àÃçà »Õ à¤

I agree that ÇѹªÒµÔ means National Day.

Each nation designates a special day to celebrate its sovreignty or pride as a nation on some national day whether or not there was a struggle for independence.

Independence day, on the other hand, is a day which is designated as a day to celebrate independence from another power such as a colonizer or oppressor in my opinion.

Because in the USA independence day has been designated as national day, it could be called ÇѹªÒµÔ

çHowever if there may be some countries that have an independence day which is not associated with a national day, it could be called ÇѹàÊÃÕ or ÇѹÃÔÊÃÀÒ¾ In the case of USA's Fourth of July, one of these terms might be more appropriate.

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¼Ã¤Ô´ÇèÒ Ã´ÑáÅѺä»àÃ×çä·Â»Õ˹éÒà´×ù¡ØÃÀҾѹ¸ì à¾ÃÒÃÇèÒ ¡ØÃÀҾѹ¸ì·Õè·íÒ§Ò¹ÃÕÇѹÃÂØè´ÊçÇѹ ¤×à Çѹ¨Ñ¹·Ãì·Õè ññ à»ç¹Çѹà¡Ô´¢Ã§»ÃøҹҸԻ´Õ Lincoln áÅéÇ¡ç Çѹ¨Ñ¹·Ãì·Õè ñù à»ç¹Çѹà¡Ô´¢Ã§»ÃøҹҸԻ´Õ Washington

Çѹ¨Ñ¹·Ãì·Õè ññ à»ç¹ÇѹËÂØ´¢éÒÃÒª¡ÒÃá·¹Çѹà¡Ô´¨ÃÔ§¢Ã§»ÃøҹҸԻ´Õ Lincoln áÅéÇ¡ç Çѹ¨Ñ¹·Ãì·Õè ñù à»ç¹ÇѹËÂØ´¢éÒÃÒª¡ÒÃá·¹Çѹà¡Ô´¨ÃÔ§¢Ã§»ÃøҹҸԻ´Õ Washington

Because everyone knows that Lincoln's birthday is the 12th and Washington's is the 22nd of February.

sorry but... not everyone knows. :roll:

or cares... :shock:

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Using your own name to refer to yourself is something a lot of western men pick up from their Thai girlfriends, as a male you should always use ¼Ã.

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