Qoute from you:

Being human..I will make mistakes ,I will say things that shouldn't be said I will do things that shouldn't be done. And these things will bring pain to myself and unfortunately others.)

...I didn't ask for it to be over,

but then again i didn't ask for it to begin.

for that's the way it is with life.

as some of the most beautiful days come completely by chance.

But even the most beautiful days eventually have their sunset.

I'm not speaking to you today. Still out of joint about the fake engagement.

GT. I am trying to recover that. I deleted it out of sadness.

Destroyed feelings? What? I didn't realize they had been living together for 3 years and had a long and meaningful relationship, raised a puppy together, etc etc etc. Oh, what? They just met and chatted a bit on line? WTF!

Patric, dude, time to grow a pair. Women are not attracted to whining. And guys just don't respect it, regardless of the reason. If you DO want to her back, you could not be going about it in a less effective way. Not only are you being a complete buffoon in her eyes, you're distancing yourself from all the regular TF people -- people who might otherwise support your efforts to win back said strumpet. Use your noggin' for a few minutes and put an end to this woe-is-me stuff.

LMAO @ Inamorato....got to say thats some sound advice thats smacks of reality.....and to think I was taking the soft approach with Patric. It is getting pathetic.

"time to grow a pair" LOL!!!