First let me say I have nothign but crazy mad respect for Thomas_K ..anyone who has an opinion and express get cudos from me and will always love ot have a drink with them. Differences are what make democracy great! Big hugs (manly one hand 3 tap on the back guy hug haha) to Thomas  ok I must speak .... having friends who have served in both gulf wars and a tf'er serving now (although he's not front line). The "WAR" started to topple Hussein and his regime ... I can put you in touch with a close friend who saw the bunkers full of biological and chemical weapons.... which need specialized furnaces reaching almost plasma levels to destroy safely of the very evil **** ... Hussein has and none, they we're not blown up, and he constantly violated the UN accords multiple times but the UN never acts against muslim countries unless it's muslims killing muslims (i/e. lack of action in darfur, but action in somalia, bosnia, and serbia). In Husseins UN report the wmd's provided no infomration of what happened to them.  Durign the invasion and subsequent time biological and chemical weapons have been found but not in the great qunatites we know that were possesed. Also something all the anti-war/ pull out idiots seem to neglect is if it was just about us being there why has the Irawi government members gone on MUSLIM TV practically begging the US not to pull out. The Sunni groups in the south turning against al-qaiida and affiliated terror groups. over 40,000 iraqi cilivialns, police, and military bommbed, executed, and murdered in other attacks not sectarin violence  but Islam extrmists trying to prevent democracy from taking but only 3,400+ us military, employees, and contractors? This is not about us being there, it's about economics of the situation, and it's not about chiristian (or westerners) against islam and the proof is very simple to prove! 1. muslim extremeists in the south of thailand killing thai teachers and police

2. muslim extremeists in the phillipines who work directly with al-qaeda

3. muslim extremeists in Malaysia performing bombings against other malaysians

4. 4 Doctors attempting to bomb clubs and an airport in London... they use a Jepp Cherokee and 2 mercedes

5. Hamas killing and attacking the rest of the elected government in palestine

6. Fatah Islam attacking lebonanese troops and police

7. This is most important Leaders of  mosque in Pkaistan attack troops, police and kidnap people viewed to not be "MUSLIM" enoughThis is a holy war of muslims extremeists .... against everyone! Especially other muslims who they take especially offense about for not being true to Islam and the law the enforce once they work their way into a government by force ... shira law some the rulesincluding stoning to death for people having sex while married

a woman who is raped also will be stoned to death in an honor killing to regain her honor

men ... NO ALCOHOL!!!!! and it's not like a dry county go to another if found with it... can be deathI will post a journal of more of the shira laws believe me this is not only just but if we do not start to stand up against radical islam their own "independent states" will not be all they want.

Start a political forum....and watch for the idiot response onslaught.

paul ..... my journal was talking about the money spent on the war and nothing else. The other things in the journal were ideas etc. This is another subject of the war all together not related to mine

still a good journal none the less........

Both are good journals to have read.........and I for one appreciated the members that have posted such.