Umm...i really don't understand about this even how hard i try to understand(and i guess every girl feel like me or almost like me).I got big question on my mind and my brain start to work out about this stuff.People said women are hard to understand but the truth is men even get harder to understand!!!First me and my friends(and i think some of you too)think that we quite understand about what they want but now i guess we don't think so....got a few things happened in the last year and make me have this question in my mind and now i want to say it out loud that "Boys!!!what are u guys really want to???"

Its not all this **** happen to me it was happen to my 2 best friends and my lovely cousin and some just happen to me..one of my best friend broke up with her 7 years bf 'cause he told my friend that he don't know what my friend want 'cause they live together like 5 years but my friend don't even ask him or talk with him about married thing he guess maybe my friend don't want to spend her life with him but he never ever ask my friend about this stuff too.(Umm...think he just forgot that he's a MAN so he better do this job than my friend).So they end up their relationship but after that he still text,ring and try to chat with my friend on msn but my friend,she quite strong so she don't even bother with him anymore even how hard he try so 2 thumbs up to my friend..

Another friend of mine just broke up with her bf on New Year eve(big thx for him to choose such a good time to say it).The reason he gave to my friend is he don't know that they should be together.'Cause he think he not ready for any realationship and seem like my friend pushing him to start to have a family(Umm...again he was the one who start it last month he said he want to come to thailand and start to do some business in thailand so they can start save up and have a family)i can tell that my friend never ever force him to do that he was the one who ask my friend to get married with him after he know my friend only 2 months..so what happen now my friend have to be in tear by didn't do anything wrong she have to go to work while he spend time with his friends and go out at night with his friends while my friends clean up their place!!!.

So i will leave the thing that happen to my cousin 'cause i guess it too long now...here's all the story that make me feel like i reallydon't understand what u guys really want???Relationship or not??Commitment or no???....

Anyway HAPPY NEW YEAR for you all have a new year,a new life and a new happiness...good luck guys in everything u want...

narnia:All agree ka...i know that have some good guys left somewhere in this world but just don't know why they really hard to understand???

It is the Venus & Mars syndrome. If u don't know what I mean do a google on "venus mars relationships". Basically it goes like this....men don't understand women at all and women don't understand men at all. Probable conclusion........we should all be gay! That's my conclusion, not the book's! This total lack of understanding manifests itselfs in many many ways. Example: sex is primarily physical for men, but primarily emotional and psychological for women. Is there a solution? Well yes but u may not like it. And no, I don't mean that the solution is that we all turn gay! There are plenty of "good" men around but the problem is that many women find them quite dull. So it's kind of a conundrum. And many women (forgive me if this sounds sexist) are attracted to the more dangerous elements in a man.......power, confidence, success and so on.......attributes that are often associated with lack of feeling, caring and so on.

You also just have to accept that there are a lot of "shits" around. It's just life. But the dumping on New Year's Eve does seem very heartless. But u want to know the most heartless dumping I ever heard? A friend of mine (male) received the news that his father had committed suicide. That evening his gf of one year dumped him. That's heartless!!!

anemglishman:Yeah!!human doesn't want to get hurt but sometime you hurt someone and you didn't mean to that at all..

sexynose:True that everyone have to accept and forget it but why they never ever have something in the middle???

don't rush into the relationship at the beginning, the longer it is before you start calling yourself bf/gf is worth a fair bit in my eyes.....but I only have young eyes and still learning myself.

just take things slow, be honest with yourself and those around you, you'll do ok.

We begin relationships with high hopes and expectations. But as time passes, we start to see the *real* person, not the one who was doing his/her best to impress you in the beginning. And that's the point at which reality strikes. If your partner isn't all the things you had hoped for, then maybe it's time to move on. If you're typical like most of us, it will happen again and again until we meet the special person that even after a year...five years...is just as special as in the beginning!

Don't give up on guys! You'll know when you find the special person and until then, just enjoy life and wait for that special someone to come into your life!

smoggie:Yep!!don't rush in the relationship but how long do you think you can call urself as bf or gf??

sexynose:i don't know that we are in the middle or not but i agree with that thing that we'll meet someone better than the old one 'cause life will getting better and better when he out of my life Oops!!!

Khun Lung:You are right that first we start with high hopes and loads expectations from the other and we try to do everything not to hurt them and sometime just lose yourself at the middle of nowhere...For sure i won't give up on guys!!!how can i??God makes us to be with guys so never ever give up lol...

Well different people want different things. I think it is first important to establish the point of view that your question is coming from. I understand from your post that you?re asking this question from the point of view of someone who wants a good relationship that doesn?t ever have to end, and you?re looking for a man who wants the same thing. Yes they do exist, but girls are usually totally inept at picking them out of the crowd. Indeed the men themselves might not even know who they are.

I will now name the points that I think are most important in order to make this possible.

1. Both partners in the relationship really do know want they want. (I believe men generally take a lot longer to figure this out than women do.)

2. Both partners have established a realistic idea of what they can have and what they cannot have in this life and they have found inward contentment with that. (Men can be bad for harbouring the idea they can have some hotter younger girl.)

4. Both partners are truly ready to be with the person they will share their lives with. (They don?t need to explore possibilities regarding relationships any more, and they don?t need time alone to come to an understanding of other personal issues, or to achieve personal ambitions.)

5. Both partners are at a place in there lives where they are able to attract the kind of partner they really want. (I think this is a much simpler matter for women.)

6. Partners are well matched for their ability to use power in the relationship, and they are comfortable with each other about when to lead and when to follow.

7. Partners are able to communicate with each other about everything, and they have the patience and perseverance to keep trying to communicate until they know that they really do understand each other.

It is only when you can be quite sure someone is right for you on each of these points that you can be at all sure that the kind of relationship you are looking for would be possible with that person. I hardly need to state that it takes time to learn all this about someone, but until you know this there are no certainties, so you should not be surprised if the relationship comes to an end. Men start relationships because they find a girl attractive and enjoy her company. Men end relationships for any of the reasons that I have already mentioned. Plus, people change over time, women much more so that men usually, and sometimes men don?t accept those changes.

I don't even understand myself sometimes, so don't expect anybody to understand me completely. In relationship, the fun part is that you try to work it out. What you can do to protect yourself before jumping into a relationship is to be awared that the chance that it might not work is high. More luck next time!

My G/f said to once why is it that you have been married two times already two times. And you only want to stay with a Thai girl. I have no answer except that, Falang women do try very hard to take care of there husband.

Saying that, I have to say that Falangs don't understand the little white lies that they tell to be happy, it is better to be honest an then everone can not get upset. But also, men find a woman that they want to spend the rest of his life with, then she will say like "I don't you to drink any more, or don't go see this guy anymore. Guys do the same. The problem is that just because we are in a COMMITED RELATIONSHIP we want to change the partner. Why I don't know???? Is this not the person that caused use to choose them??? I have no answer, except, I have one who does understand, I love her for that!!!!!

i am agree all with Angel_Master....Talk is very imported...listening is also imported and forgive is very imported also.....i am belive that

err someone just spoke abt good guys :-)) well here i am ;-))