tallboyno1 Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: copy from GedeOns journal:"Someone found out that a website is stealing TF photos aswell as members information. That website illegally displays them here: http://www.french-asia.com/Menu/photos.htm The link "Plus de photos" at the bottom of the page means "More photos"... See by yourself! Up to now, i've found 4 TF members (and i don't know every TFer, so there might be many others): http://www.french-asia.com/Menu/detail_visiteur.asp?id=3674 <== Tan http://www.french-asia.com/Menu/detail_visiteur.asp?id=3646 <== Toon http://www.french-asia.com/Menu/detail_visiteur.asp?id=3398 <== Puna There's also CheekySmiley (sorry, lost your page there) and probably many other TFers. We've sent emails to them, telling them we want the photos to be removed ASAP. Please, help us fighting them by sending an email to this address: [email protected] Let's show them we're a united community, ready to FIGHT for our rights! EVERY email will help. Thank you very much. Gedeon & Puna & Cheekysmiley Link to Puna's Entry: http://www.thailandfriends.com/index.php?op=modload&name=Journal&view=journal&juid=3220&jid=19537 Link to Cheekysmiley's entry: http://www.thailandfriends.com/index.php?op=modload&name=Journal&view=journal&juid=32456&jid=19536" http://www.french-asia.com/Menu/detail_visiteur.asp?id=3609 http://www.french-asia.com/Menu/detail_visiteur.asp?id=3356 was up pls let these girl know about this and also send them a mail if you want them to remove all the pictures/info. We had this problem one time before and it was Out of orders pics among them they stole at that time. Should be thread about that somewhere. which actions should we do then ? any suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tallboyno1 Posted November 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 Why dont we all 10.000 members sending them a complain mail with a common letter but different heading to them? where we tell them to remove all of that stuff ? We do this 3 times a row to them ... what you think ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tallboyno1 Posted November 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 and then we mail there ISP too (Internet Service Provider) that have their site hosting too. We tell them that this site that they hosting should be removed from their servers bcs bl a bla bla good actions ? :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Single_Man Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 there is no way to get the pics gone. you can spam, you can call, you can show up in monocco. the pics are not owned by tf and by posting a personal photo on the net, its called implied consent.the photos become public domain. i have had tons of photos that i owned used on other sites and it only cost money with no real outcome. all my photos were owned my me under title 18 & section 2257 here in the US. i was only told "too bad for you" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tallboyno1 Posted November 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 Ok good then we have one email adress: FRENCH-ASIA.COM Owner company: French Union LLC Mr Stephane CAPELLI 1. [email protected] 2. [email protected] 3. [email protected] can anyone traceroute them to their ISP provider? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gede0n Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 there is no way to get the pics gone. you can spam, you can call, you can show up in monocco. the pics are not owned by tf and by posting a personal photo on the net, its called implied consent.the photos become public domain. i have had tons of photos that i owned used on other sites and it only cost money with no real outcome. all my photos were owned my me under title 18 & section 2257 here in the US. i was only told "too bad for you" Even thouth they earn money out of it? And what about information like email address and stuff like that? They say members can have it... But you gotta pay if you wanna be a member... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Single_Man Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 there is no way to get the pics gone. you can spam, you can call, you can show up in monocco. the pics are not owned by tf and by posting a personal photo on the net, its called implied consent.the photos become public domain. i have had tons of photos that i owned used on other sites and it only cost money with no real outcome. all my photos were owned my me under title 18 & section 2257 here in the US. i was only told "too bad for you" Even thouth they earn money out of it? And what about information like email address and stuff like that? They say members can have it... But you gotta pay if you wanna be a member... yes, the ruling was made in 2002 by the supreme court. it was brought on by the hundreds of marriage sites (mostly russian) stealing pics and selling real and fake addresses. this site is registred with a US address but it is obviously fake. the "personal photos" are basically free to use anywhere anytime. i know its not right and i agree these people are scum but the law is just not on our side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tallboyno1 Posted November 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 there is no way to get the pics gone. you can spam, you can call, you can show up in monocco. the pics are not owned by tf and by posting a personal photo on the net, its called implied consent.the photos become public domain. i have had tons of photos that i owned used on other sites and it only cost money with no real outcome. all my photos were owned my me under title 18 & section 2257 here in the US. i was only told "too bad for you" Even thouth they earn money out of it? And what about information like email address and stuff like that? They say members can have it... But you gotta pay if you wanna be a member... yes, the ruling was made in 2002 by the supreme court. it was brought on by the hundreds of marriage sites (mostly russian) stealing pics and selling real and fake addresses. this site is registred with a US address but it is obviously fake. the "personal photos" are basically free to use anywhere anytime. i know its not right and i agree these people are scum but the law is just not on our side. Yes and thats why we should not go that long legal way to stopp this pirates,,, they are hosted by this company Internet Fr SA Immeuble Odyssée 2-12, chemin des Femmes 91886 MASSY Cedex France Tél. : +33 1 64 53 12 12 Fax : +33 1 60 13 07 04 http://www.internet-fr.net/# [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] --------------------- this application could be used with your letter to them to take away this site french-asia.com -------- En application des dispositions visées par la loi n°2004-575 du 21 Juin 2004 et notamment aux articles 6 et suivants, vous pouvez nous signaler la présence de contenu(s) et/ou activité(s) illicite(s) afin que nous puissions, le cas échéant, retirer le(s) contenu(s) et/ou activité(s) illicite(s) ou en rendre l'accès impossible. Nous vous rappelons qu'à titre d'intermédiaire technique en charge de prestations d'hébergement, nous ne pouvons nous substituer ni pallier ni remplacer l'intervention d'un juge. Conformément au 9ème Considérant de la décision n°2004-496 DC du Juin 2004 rendue par le Conseil Constitutionnel de la République française, nous attirons l'attention sur l'interdiction qui nous est faite d'intervenir sur tout contenu(s) ou activité(s) autres que ceux qui seraient MANIFESTEMENT illicite(s). Nous invitons les internautes à prendre toute(s) mesure(s) nécessaire(s) pour s'informer au préalable du fondement juridique et des conséquences de tout signalement auprès de notre service. Veuillez utilisez le formulaire suivant pour connaître la marche à suivre (tous les champs sont obligatoires sauf indication contraire) Date de réclamation 02/11/2005 18:43:36 Numéro d'enregistrement 38658-7802777778 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Le plaignant Vous êtes Une personne physique Une personne morale (société, assocaition, groupement, personne publique) Nous ne prenons aucun engagement quant aux suites données à votre signalement, notre action s'inscrivant exclusivement dans le cadre de la loi LCEN. La plainte adressée à l'hébergeur doit être accompagnée de la copie de la correspondance adressée à l'auteur ou à l'éditeur des informations ou activités litigieuses. Nous rappelons également que le fait de présenter un contenu ou une activité comme étant illicite dans le but d'obtenir le retrait ou d'en faire cesser la diffusion alors que l'on sait cette information inexacte est puni d'une peine d'un an d'emprisonnement et de 15 000 euros d'amende (article 6 I 4 de la loi LCEN). Les informations recueillies dans le cadre de ce formulaire ne sont pas destinées à être transmises à des tiers, exception faite de toute injonction émanant de l'autorité judiciaire. Ces informations sont archivées par nécessité dans le cadre du respect de la loi LCEN du 21 Juin 2004 et pourront être versées aux débats dans le cadre de procédure(s) judiciaire(s). Les personnes physiques ont un droit d'accès aux informations les concernant. Sur justification de leur identité, elles peuvent, après versement de la somme correspondant au coût de la reprographie, demander une copie des informations les concernant saisies dans le cadre du présent formulaire. Elles ne peuvent toutefois exercer leur droit d'opposition, de rectification ou de suppression des informations saisies et transmises dans le cadre de ce formulaire conformément aux dispositions de l'article 38 al3 de la loi n°78-17 du 6 Janvier 1978 modifiée par la loi n°2004-801 du 6 Août 2004. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Single_Man Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 im not sure where you got that info from but here is their hosting company info: Domain Name : HEBERGEMENT.COM Created On : 1999-06-08 Expiration Date : 2009-06-08 Status : PROTECTED Registrant Name : NAMEBAY Registrant Street1 : 30, bld Princesse Charlotte Registrant City : MONACO Registrant State/Province : MC Registrant Postal Code : 98000 Registrant Country : MC Admin Handle : HEB1 Admin Name : Hebergement.COM Admin Street1 : 30 bld princesse charlotte Admin City : Monaco Admin State/Province : MC Admin Postal Code : 98000 Admin Country : MC Admin Phone : +377.97706164 Admin Email : [email protected] Tech Handle : HEB1 Tech Name : Hebergement.COM Tech Street1 : 30 bld princesse charlotte Tech City : Monaco Tech State/Province : MC Tech Postal Code : 98000 Tech Country : MC Tech Phone : +377.97706164 Tech Email : [email protected] Billing Handle : HEB1 Billing Name : Hebergement.COM Billing Street1 : 30 bld princesse charlotte Billing City : Monaco Billing State/Province : MC Billing Postal Code : 98000 Billing Country : MC Billing Phone : +377.97706164 Billing Email : [email protected] Name Server : NS1.HEBERGEMENT.COM Name Server : NS2.HEBERGEMENT.COM Registrar Name : NAMEBAY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tallboyno1 Posted November 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 there is no way to get the pics gone. you can spam, you can call, you can show up in monocco. the pics are not owned by tf and by posting a personal photo on the net, its called implied consent.the photos become public domain. i have had tons of photos that i owned used on other sites and it only cost money with no real outcome. all my photos were owned my me under title 18 & section 2257 here in the US. i was only told "too bad for you" we all know that the legal way doesnt work so thats no news at all.... I bet you singelman 100 USD that this will work if we all at least 10 000 people send them (french-asia.com and Internet Fr SA) 3 e-mails 3 days in a row to take this stuff away. they will have work as hell from this.... why not talk to any online newspapers in France, Asia Thailand too about this fraud? :roll: Deal ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tallboyno1 Posted November 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 im not sure where you got that info from but here is their hosting company info:Domain Name : HEBERGEMENT.COM Created On : 1999-06-08 Expiration Date : 2009-06-08 Status : PROTECTED Registrant Name : NAMEBAY Registrant Street1 : 30, bld Princesse Charlotte Registrant City : MONACO Registrant State/Province : MC Registrant Postal Code : 98000 Registrant Country : MC Admin Handle : HEB1 Admin Name : Hebergement.COM Admin Street1 : 30 bld princesse charlotte Admin City : Monaco Admin State/Province : MC Admin Postal Code : 98000 Admin Country : MC Admin Phone : +377.97706164 Admin Email : [email protected] Tech Handle : HEB1 Tech Name : Hebergement.COM Tech Street1 : 30 bld princesse charlotte Tech City : Monaco Tech State/Province : MC Tech Postal Code : 98000 Tech Country : MC Tech Phone : +377.97706164 Tech Email : [email protected] Billing Handle : HEB1 Billing Name : Hebergement.COM Billing Street1 : 30 bld princesse charlotte Billing City : Monaco Billing State/Province : MC Billing Postal Code : 98000 Billing Country : MC Billing Phone : +377.97706164 Billing Email : [email protected] Name Server : NS1.HEBERGEMENT.COM Name Server : NS2.HEBERGEMENT.COM Registrar Name : NAMEBAY well this is about where you can write Donald Duck or whatever but I am talking about where this site is physically located and where french-asia.com really paying someone for hosting them. What you are talking about is the registration about a doman name. I am talking about who is hosting this crap!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagle Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 I dont see my pics there yet, still surfing there tho ... tsk tsk ... i aint cute enough probably ... I stole your pic :cry: I'm sorry I confess to you, Spank me if your gonna I'm baaaaaaad :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_love_som_tam Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 there is no way to get the pics gone. you can spam, you can call, you can show up in monocco. the pics are not owned by tf and by posting a personal photo on the net, its called implied consent.the photos become public domain. i have had tons of photos that i owned used on other sites and it only cost money with no real outcome. all my photos were owned my me under title 18 & section 2257 here in the US. i was only told "too bad for you" Even thouth they earn money out of it? And what about information like email address and stuff like that? They say members can have it... But you gotta pay if you wanna be a member... yes, the ruling was made in 2002 by the supreme court. it was brought on by the hundreds of marriage sites (mostly russian) stealing pics and selling real and fake addresses. this site is registred with a US address but it is obviously fake. the "personal photos" are basically free to use anywhere anytime. i know its not right and i agree these people are scum but the law is just not on our side. Yes and thats why we should not go that long legal way to stopp this pirates,,, they are hosted by this company Internet Fr SA Immeuble Odyssée 2-12, chemin des Femmes 91886 MASSY Cedex France Tél. : +33 1 64 53 12 12 Fax : +33 1 60 13 07 04 http://www.internet-fr.net/# [email protected] [email protected] [email protected] --------------------- this application could be used with your letter to them to take away this site french-asia.com -------- En application des dispositions visées par la loi n°2004-575 du 21 Juin 2004 et notamment aux articles 6 et suivants, vous pouvez nous signaler la présence de contenu(s) et/ou activité(s) illicite(s) afin que nous puissions, le cas échéant, retirer le(s) contenu(s) et/ou activité(s) illicite(s) ou en rendre l'accès impossible. Nous vous rappelons qu'à titre d'intermédiaire technique en charge de prestations d'hébergement, nous ne pouvons nous substituer ni pallier ni remplacer l'intervention d'un juge. Conformément au 9ème Considérant de la décision n°2004-496 DC du Juin 2004 rendue par le Conseil Constitutionnel de la République française, nous attirons l'attention sur l'interdiction qui nous est faite d'intervenir sur tout contenu(s) ou activité(s) autres que ceux qui seraient MANIFESTEMENT illicite(s). Nous invitons les internautes à prendre toute(s) mesure(s) nécessaire(s) pour s'informer au préalable du fondement juridique et des conséquences de tout signalement auprès de notre service. Veuillez utilisez le formulaire suivant pour connaître la marche à suivre (tous les champs sont obligatoires sauf indication contraire) Date de réclamation 02/11/2005 18:43:36 Numéro d'enregistrement 38658-7802777778 -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Le plaignant Vous êtes Une personne physique Une personne morale (société, assocaition, groupement, personne publique) Nous ne prenons aucun engagement quant aux suites données à votre signalement, notre action s'inscrivant exclusivement dans le cadre de la loi LCEN. La plainte adressée à l'hébergeur doit être accompagnée de la copie de la correspondance adressée à l'auteur ou à l'éditeur des informations ou activités litigieuses. Nous rappelons également que le fait de présenter un contenu ou une activité comme étant illicite dans le but d'obtenir le retrait ou d'en faire cesser la diffusion alors que l'on sait cette information inexacte est puni d'une peine d'un an d'emprisonnement et de 15 000 euros d'amende (article 6 I 4 de la loi LCEN). Les informations recueillies dans le cadre de ce formulaire ne sont pas destinées à être transmises à des tiers, exception faite de toute injonction émanant de l'autorité judiciaire. Ces informations sont archivées par nécessité dans le cadre du respect de la loi LCEN du 21 Juin 2004 et pourront être versées aux débats dans le cadre de procédure(s) judiciaire(s). Les personnes physiques ont un droit d'accès aux informations les concernant. Sur justification de leur identité, elles peuvent, après versement de la somme correspondant au coût de la reprographie, demander une copie des informations les concernant saisies dans le cadre du présent formulaire. Elles ne peuvent toutefois exercer leur droit d'opposition, de rectification ou de suppression des informations saisies et transmises dans le cadre de ce formulaire conformément aux dispositions de l'article 38 al3 de la loi n°78-17 du 6 Janvier 1978 modifiée par la loi n°2004-801 du 6 Août 2004. It's all Greek to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tallboyno1 Posted November 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 hmmm yes about Donald Duck hmmm thats maybe why its difficult to take him into court isnt it ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gede0n Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 I'm filling in the complaint form of their ISP. If anyone else speaks french, this is the address: http://lcen.internet-fr.net/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagle Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 Better Spam or Hack him:domain: FRENCH-ASIA.COM owner: French Union LLC person: CAPELLI Stéphane address: 15 East North Street address: DELAWARE, USA adresse: DOVER, 0 19901 adresse: FR phone: 15665498 fax: email: [email protected] admin-c: MA1043-OVH tech-c: MA1043-OVH bill-c: MA1043-OVH nserver: NS1.HEBERGEMENT.COM nserver: NS2.HEBERGEMENT.COM created: 2003-04-17 07:37:44 expires: 2006-04-17 07:37:44 changed: 2003-10-28 13:28:36 nic-hdl: MA1043-OVH person: CAPELLI Stephane organisation: French-union LLC address: 43 North Street address: Dover, 0 19901 adresse: US phone: 16541654 fax: email: [email protected] created: 2003-07-04 20:24:11 changed: 2004-02-05 13:41:41 I'm a few hours away from there, grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr I can do better then spam I'll take some of my friends down there and tell him to Delete my Sisters Pics or I Will DELETE HIM bastards :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Single_Man Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 first of all remember that i am on your side... spam is the only enforceable section of net law. if a spam campaign is started here on TF against any company or person. TF is open to all the liability not the individuals who send it. i would check with admin before you guys start up a posse. he is the one who will be responsible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tallboyno1 Posted November 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 I'm filling in the complaint form of their ISP. If anyone else speaks french, this is the address:http://lcen.internet-fr.net/ very good we can use this letter and also a letter that we write by our own in english that will be the one we set as first in the email. Than we can attach this french letter after that in our email...good idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tallboyno1 Posted November 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 first of all remember that i am on your side...spam is the only enforceable section of net law. if a spam campaign is started here on TF against any company or person. TF is open to all the liability not the individuals who send it. i would check with admin before you guys start up a posse. he is the one who will be responsible. this will not be sent out from TF. It will be sent out from individuals that support members from who we know from this site only. with a simple request to remove pictures and info that is not appropriate to their site Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tallboyno1 Posted November 2, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 Ok lets vote about it then 10 days and see if any are interested to do something...? This is the business so all girls are supposed to looking for a marrige! THIS IS NOT LIKE A DATING SITE - its more of a marrige agency! see below.. http://www.french-union.com/menu/conseil_anglais.htm --------------------------------------------------------------------- "Asian ladies are looking for their perfect match and life time partner. Professional service assisting Western men to establish relationships with Russian & Asian ladies. All ladies have personal E-mail. 1 month membership gives you full access to ladies informations.All ladies submit their profiles personally. Ladies with photos and real contact details only. You can retrieve their contact details immediately. New ladies every week." Well this is just a scam to everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AbsolutPurple Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 I hope this is gonna work. I don't wanna have the 4th profile there. Just only one here is enough. XXxxXX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
da_cyclist Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 Actually the ip address for french-asia.com (as well as for french-union.com) resolves out to a Milano Italy ISP: Level IP Italia S.p.A. Via Caldera 21 20153 Milano (MI) Tel. : +39 02 4093351 Fax : +39 02 40933540 [email protected] IP Address: 80.247.64.170 But since their website looks identical to Internet FR, I am guessing they are probablypart of the same group, so complaining to the France locale may work just fine. And their corporate registration is in Delware, which means nothing because anyone living anywhere can set up a corp in Delaware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughs Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 My mate's profile is on their first page, and she ain't a member at TF. Looks like they could be nicking profiles/photos from MSN as well. Cheeky bastards ain't shy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gede0n Posted November 3, 2005 Report Share Posted November 3, 2005 I've just checked the website again... Can't see any TFer pic anymore, and i tried to reach some profiles: they don't work anymore neither Does anyone still have her photo there? If not... Congratulations TFers!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tallboyno1 Posted November 3, 2005 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2005 I've just checked the website again... Can't see any TFer pic anymore, and i tried to reach some profiles: they don't work anymore neither Does anyone still have her photo there? If not... Congratulations TFers!!!! Well just say like this; we show muscles and the people know that we was serious about what we can do --------> trouble and bad publicity. So they **** their pants off! Even that only 10 people voted and 9 were positive to do something. And for sure we also have an insider here that told them! lol who? We never know... :roll: The bad thing is that I didn?t get any 100 USD from single-man huhuhu not even a sweet kiss from any of the offended girls? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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