GoldMember Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 31/08/2006 16:52 West Ham United are delighted to announce the double signing of Argentinian World Cup stars Carlos Tevez and Javier Mascherano from Brazilian club Corinthians. Yeah i know its all over the news but still -what a coup:nice one Pards .Must have taken a heck of a lot of sweet talking to pull this one off :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldMember Posted September 1, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 ..The sad thing for Alan Pardew and West Ham is that the club, known for its strong ties to the local East London community, is being used like a pawn as Russians play around with our domestic league. true.....but looking at the bright side at least we get a season of talent at the very highest level.That at least surely guarantees survival and makes an already exciting team with a low budget...even better and perhaps contenders for higher accolades.Sure no way could WHU afford the suggested market price for those guys.We're just making hay while the sun shines i guess.So not so bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiamHotel Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 huh? ... sxorry pretty folks but only one champion$hip 2 follow thiz season: ITALIAN 2ND DIVISION [ na ja ] -- Gianluigi Buffon (former world champion... and current humbl3 Juventus goalkeeper sh!t :? ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizardo Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 2 unique??? plagarising football 365??/ hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 ...Presuming we live outside of the computed generated world of Championship Manager, the answer to that question is "NO". they would never sign for west ham in CM. mascherano would sign for mansfield town to play alongside pirlo, joe cole, ledley king, bojinov, fred, etc. DUH. There are clearly other forces at work here and the way in which these two players are owned needs to be seriously addressed by the footballing authorities. It is widely known who has vested interests in MSI, the company that owns the player's contracts, and the company that has its financial claws in Corinthians. The sad thing for Alan Pardew and West Ham is that the club, known for its strong ties to the local East London community, is being used like a pawn as Russians play around with our domestic league. was english football really that much better when moanchester united signed most of the major players, rather than chelski? wait, i can answer that. NO. as someone who didn't grow up with the premiership and doesn't owe my allegiance to any particular team by birthright, all i can say is how bad can it be, bringing A-list players to a club like west ham, even temporarily? (west ham are already claiming 'we're not gonna be a feeder club but will of course listen to the right offer'). i started watching english football in the early 90s. it was entertaining but hardly what i'd call 'good' compared to the a-list teams in spain and italy (who were boring as **** for the most part). now players are moving FROM italy and spain TO the premiership whereas then it was one direction only. this may be heresy but IMO now that premiership teams can attract quality players, what the league needs is a salary cap of some sort, so that small-market teams can have a legit hope of more than a mid-table finish on their best season ever. i don't like american football but it's a well-run, well-marketed league and the cap has done wonders for making small-market teams competitive. so tevez and mascherano will play for the hammers for a year before moving on to a big club. is that really so wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 2 unique??? plagarising football 365??/ hehe it's not plagiarizing if you link to the article. linking is as legit as footnoting and a **** of a lot easier on the reader. SIAMHOTEL: suicide is your only option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizardo Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 ooops...my bad...sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted September 1, 2006 Report Share Posted September 1, 2006 bbc are claiming that chelski and arse did in fact beat the deadline and swap cashley for gallas +5MM. considering both of these players were determined to sulk, i think it will work out well for both clubs. if gallas presses forward though, he will have to learn the arsenal way of football: if you're alone staring at a wide open goal from the edge of the six yard box... pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldMember Posted September 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 2, 2006 ' 'West Ham are set to be taken over by the financiers who own their new Argentina stars Javier Mascherano and Carlos Tevez. 'The club refused to give details of the transfer of the two World Cup players last night. That added to the belief that Kia Joobachrian, a London-based investor, has allowed the pair to leave his Brazilian team Corinthians, despite interest from far bigger clubs round Europe, as a "sweetener" to the Hammers. ....throw in 1/2 price meat pies and the deal's in the bag. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S123arpedon Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 Basile: Hammers pair must leave Argentina coach Alfio Basile believes Carlos Tevez and Javier Mascherano need to leave West Ham for the sake of their careers. The pair made the shock move to London on transfer deadline day in August from Brazilian club Corinthians. But they have both struggled for form since joining the Hammers, who have failed to win since the duo's arrival. Basile is now concerned Tevez and Mascherano's disappointing club displays will translate onto the international stage. "I hope both of them leave that club as soon as possible," he told TyC Sports. "I think they are half-hearted and I'm really worried about that. They play as if they are unenthusiastic. "I hope for God's sake that Mascherano can go to Juventus as it has been said, even if he has to play in the second division (in Italy). "And Tevez can play in any position in the attacking line, but not as a left-winger like he is currently playing." Basile also expressed "surprise" at Juan Roman Riquelme's decision to retire from the national team at the age of 28 for family reasons. "I can talk to him to ask him to return, but his mother is more valuable to him," Basile said. But the coach says there are "very good players" to replace the Villarreal playmaker, including Borussia Monchengladbach's Federico Insua and Real Zaragoza's Pablo Aimar. Link: http://www.teamtalk.com/football/story/0,16368,2483_1572239,00.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 pardew's playing tevez as a left winger??? no wonder he's been sucking. i dont think i've ever seen him knock a good cross. maybe the hammers can trade the argies for a manager... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S123arpedon Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 I think West Ham are struggling....talks of takeover, uncertainty over Pardew, not winning since the Argies joined, Reo Coker who was one of their best players last season sucking big time this season... Will they go down this season? Early days but i wonder that odds you would get on them now being relegated? If they do go down i till take Benayoun. I think he is a quality player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldMember Posted October 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 Well the Hammers are 16 th....2 positions below Spurs.Pardew for sure wont leave on his own accord...just wont happen.Debating relegation this early in the season is the kind of stuff bored sports journalists do.Etherington is our left winger and very good he is to.Mascherano today declared he would stay at upton park for 'a long long time.(That Argie coach is full of corn beef driven wind:The premiership is the most prestigious league in the world and whufc is a very well supported team ( in terms of club revenue its top 7 in the premiership) .The real issue is the takeover speculation.Thats unsettling and needs to be sorted asap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 certainly i'd rather the premiership than serie b. although la liga is pretty attractive to native spanish speakers. i think part of the equation with the argies is that they wanted / had to get out of corinthians ASAP. mascherano is my first choice of the two were i WH. he will eventually fit in, and the talent is there. tevez, i'm not sure. the talent's there, but english football play so many high crosses and he AHEM aint' exactly jack skellington (aka peter crouch). could work but pardew aint wenger. i doubt hammers will get relegated, teams that remix toward quality tend to struggle at first and then start to click later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S123arpedon Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 I would debate the point that Etherington is good. He didnt do too much at Spurs except whine a fair amount and if he was that good then surely he would have been included in the England set up...at least in some sort of capacity...sub or on standby. Maybe he was injured over the world cup though...not sure... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldMember Posted October 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 I would debate the point that Etherington is good. He didnt do too much at Spurs except whine a fair amount and if he was that good then surely he would have been included in the England set up...at least in some sort of capacity...sub or on standby. Maybe he was injured over the world cup though...not sure... He plays very competently for West Ham.Reo-coker was the closest we had to getting a player into the England squad..and then he got injured .I think fairly often a player doesnt settle with one team and then thrives with another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S123arpedon Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 Thats true that sometimes a player doesnt settle at a team for whatever reason and a move can put a spring in the step of that player when he moves clubs and Etherington seems to be playing better for the hammers than he did at spurs but i still dont think he is that good a footballer. I am interested on your view as a hammers fan with all the fuss that was made about the argies and about this takeover talk...do you think you might be going the way of Chelsea and about the gain a load of fair weather footballers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldMember Posted October 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 I am interested on your view as a hammers fan with all the fuss that was made about the argies and about this takeover talk...do you think you might be going the way of Chelsea and about the gain a load of fair weather footballers? Erm well from what i gather if this Iranian guy succeeds(and that increasingly seems like a big 'if') in taking over,then he has pledged 100million gbp to get new players.So with regards to following Chelsea,i think 100 mill is small change to what Abramovich spends and will presumably continue spending.As far as attracting Ashley Cole types i'm not so sure.Not sure if we would want them and not sure if they would want us(well not until at least we win something..and lets face it ,that hasnt happened for quite a while ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S123arpedon Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 I wonder if you would still be our feeder club!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldMember Posted October 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 I wonder if you would still be our feeder club!! haha....as well as CFC's :evil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted October 6, 2006 Report Share Posted October 6, 2006 I am interested on your view as a hammers fan with all the fuss that was made about the argies and about this takeover talk...do you think you might be going the way of Chelsea and about the gain a load of fair weather footballers? Erm well from what i gather if this Iranian guy succeeds(and that increasingly seems like a big 'if') in taking over,then he has pledged 100million gbp to get new players.So with regards to following Chelsea,i think 100 mill is small change to what Abramovich spends and will presumably continue spending.As far as attracting Ashley Cole types i'm not so sure.Not sure if we would want them and not sure if they would want us(well not until at least we win something..and lets face it ,that hasnt happened for quite a while ) if he can do 100 mil every year, then that's gonna buy some players, if they'll agree to go to west ham. the real question is what is the iranian dude willing to pay in salaries, in the event this happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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