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According to Juniper's journal, I discuss about it with my friend.He said it was bad news. I asked him why? I know it will affect the whole country for sure... especially, Gov. supporters. But I said it wasn't the way to solve problem, it was justice process... I think he always tell me that instead of go out to demonstration on the street why didn't you just wait for the judgement? and why didn't I respect from the election?oh ok ok ok ok ok...Then today, I heard something difference. After I said what PPP did was against the laws... they bought vote dude. So he said... laws were writen by someone who doesn't like him.Huh!!! I could remember this constitution laws vote by people all over Thailand, and I remember ppl in the red t-shirt. said "no vote, or not accept" something like that. I don't know why he said that cuz he told me to believe in election cuz it's democracy. From many comments around TF I have heard lately, I can feel something like that. So I'm confuse...

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According to Juniper's journal, I discuss about it with my friend.He said it was bad news. I asked him why? I know it will affect the whole country for sure... especially, Gov. supporters. But I said it wasn't the way to solve problem, it was justice process... I think he always tell me that instead of go out to demonstration on the street why didn't you just wait for the judgement? and why didn't I respect from the election?oh ok ok ok ok ok...Then today, I heard something difference. After I said what PPP did was against the laws... they bought vote dude. So he said... laws were writen by someone who doesn't like him.Huh!!! I could remember this constitution laws vote by people all over Thailand, and I remember ppl in the red t-shirt. said "no vote, or not accept" something like that. I don't know why he said that cuz he told me to believe in election cuz it's democracy. From many comments around TF I have heard lately, I can feel something like that. So I'm confuse...

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whatever happen from today we need to keep our eyes on it...

anyhow the closure of the airports delayed my plan already...

hope everything is gonna be cleared asap.

we are in travel industrial dying....:(

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Im not Thai so really I shouldn't worry,but surely you can see that protesting is democratic until it becomes more than democratic.

Paying members of there own group now known to most of the world has offered money to people to support their cause.

Thats not democratic and as the court will makr a desicion on if their was corruption by the ruling party in last elections.

They have let a democratic process take place,why cant PAD.

bCool Im not making a statement to argue a case with you,because I know you are a PAD supporter,but surely you do know whats right from wrong?

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Thailand is democratic, but the practice of its democracy is governed by the power of goverment. Once they are chosen, they can do anything and ignore the fundamental needs of people, but main purposes are to grab thier own beneficiary.

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Khun BJ this case isn't happened just now... why ppl don't read newspaper? I don't understand, it started after election day, before PAD. protest. and PAD. has many cases, same as well. Chamlong went to jail, Sondhi went to police station... so? Where is Thaksin?

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and hey... about Bangkok Gov. Apiluk, he isn't fight for his case in the court yet, but he resign after he was accused that he was related to the fire truck corruption that Samak left the ****. So I don't know how many case that this gov. face...

you said respect the law and vote. so now what?

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Hm...Party dissolved..PM Somchai banned from politics for 5 years, he must have feels so relieved after all. When new election comes and the new Party Pheu Thai (form by the former PPP) wins again, Chamlong and Sonthi will once again come out and.....sigh it''s going round in a circle.

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Hollywood_BKK >> agreed

Actually, I don't wanna blame only Thaksin Gov., Samak Gov.

It's the lesson to everyone to take care of ppl in every class every level in the social... don't let them feel like they have no one to lean on.

ppl in up country, and poor feel like that... so that's why bad gov. can take control

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20 August 2007: So, of the 45 million Thais registered to vote, 14.7 million have endorsed the proposed constitution. It is a victory of sorts (and key no vote campaigners have accepted it), but not an impressive one. The international reaction will be interesting to watch.

3 September 2007: The explicit request of the military government was that Thai voters endorse a constitution; but the implicit request was that they endorse the future abrogation of that very document if it delivers a government unpalatable to those who wield the power to overthrow it. We can see the ideological groundwork for this being laid already with the usual tired claims about vote buying in relation to the substantial no vote in the northeast and the north. And these claims come from a government that spared little in terms of incentives and expenses for villagers mobilised as part of the yes vote campaign.

10 September 2007: Some members of the ruling regime in Thailand have reacted with predicable nationalist outrage to a European Union request to send observers to the forthcoming general election. Why such a defensive response? I don?t think it is because the junta holds out some hope of ballot-box manipulation. Quite the opposite. What the current regime fears most is that the Thai electoral process could be internationally recognised as being relatively clean. The ?sufficiency democracy? paradigm that they promote is based on the view that the electoral process is so compromised by money politics that it can be cast aside when it delivers an unpalatable result. Slandering the electoral process is the ideological bread and butter of the coup-endorsing Thai elite. With European Observers on the ground, the elite?s ongoing attempts to discredit electoral democracy will be all the more difficult.

23 December 2007: The central question for Thailand?s democracy is this: will the royalist-military elite that staged the September 2006 coup be willing to accept the election of Thaksin?s proxy party? Finding themselves back at square one after 15 months will be a bitter pill to swallow. Military action against the election result seems highly unlikely, though it cannot be ruled out. More likely is a concerted judicial attack on the elected government. This may take the form of a series of challenges to constituency results. The current military regime has worked hard to keep the spectre of electoral irregularity and vote buying alive and they may waste no time in arguing, as they did in relation to the Thaksin government, that the People Power victory was bought from an ill-informed and easily manipulated electorate.

1 January 2008: Now the issuing of ?red cards? to the successful People Power Party has started in earnest with speculation that up to 60 candidates may be disqualified ? As expected the common charge against disqualified candidates is the tired old charge of vote buying. This legal manoeuvring is just so predictable. ? Just how far the powers that be are willing to go in their current coup by stealth remains to be seen. They will do everything they can to muddy the electoral waters.

7 April 2008: For some so-called pro-democracy advocates, constitutional reform by a democratically elected government seems to be more alarming than the complete destruction of a constitution by military force. The outrage at the proposed amendment of Section 237 of the 2007 Constitution is motivated by anything but democratic principles. Section 237 allows the Constitutional Court to dissolve a political party if one of its executives is found guilty of electoral irregularity (or failing to act to prevent such an irregularity).

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Thai Judiciary are nothing less than another arm of the PAD and coup makers plus their puppet masters.

Thailand is screwed! Destroying itself from within with breathtaking speed and stupidity.

The ignorant fools who support the mad PAD should look up the concept of a Pyrrhic Victory

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I'm so amazed, seems the guy above me always left long comment everytime he posting ones.. And seems he can post longer commment in journal than everyone else? O_o

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Sathorn, hmmm have you thinking about start your own journal? hehe don't kick me na.. cuz it's too long bro.

well, they will leave so... how about red ****. oops red shirt.

So that means I can stay in CM one more day? yahooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!

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babyoiy" I'm so amazed, seems the guy above me always left long comment everytime he posting ones.. And seems he can post longer commment in journal than everyone else? O_o" It is because he knows so little of what he is talking about (just look at his journal today).

And then he says things like, "Thailand is screwed" and 'a civil war is a few weeks away', trying to distort the picture here.

Anyway, bcool a happy day all round.

On the legal point, it is a breach of electoral law which has lead to the breach of the constitution and the provision of relevent electoral law has existed longer than the current constitution. (Similar to the late 2006 case against TRT and Dems). So you make this point to your friend.

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