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Tear Gas Defense


FarangFarang

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Thinking of "occupying" something? Maybe you just plan on a random clash with riot police. Whatever your plans, here's how to deal with getting gassed.

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Yeeees... while stuff like that is handy to know, what exactly are the 'Occupy' people asking for?

Do they have any demands? Something concrete? Or is it, "I'm not rich and I'm angry."?

If they want an overhaul of the banking system, do they offer an alternative?

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Wealth redistribution in a nut shell. Trying to relive the protests of the 60's. They seem to get media support for now, but otherwise, not taken too seriously.

disagree ---- I remember the Tea Party not being taken too seriously before the 2008 election, now they intimedate they Republican party and have shifted Congress in to doing nothing until the clock ticks to 4, 3, 2, 1 ---

and although not a focused target yet, they are not going to go away until after the election.

you can expect them to offset the Tea Party to some (maybe large) extent and both groups share the "WTF" on how bailed out bankers show very little social responsibility (payback) for maintaining their advantagious and rediculously payed (read bonuses) positions.

I remember repots of those guys being worried in 2009 of mobs knock on the doors of their estates after they tanked the economy... it is happening now in a figuritive sense

you should remember to protests of the 60s did more than a little to shape the future years (civil rights, the War, the environment).

As Betty Davis once said: "hold on its going to be a bumpy night"

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But 'wealth distribution'?

In what form? Gonna grab some rich guys and take their money off them?

Give in to poorer people?

Do they actually have a platform or is it only about punishing rich guys who did a shitty job of running the economy?

BTW I'm not making any point here - right now I'm just curious. News of the protests seems to be that they are noisy and big, but lack a clear goal. I'd like to know if that's true.

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this is America --- there not going to be some 1917 Rev... I am sure you could find a vocal fringe in it. Capitalism is not going anywhere here!

Now in other world locations...??? who knows?? Greece, the Irish, Red shirts ??? oh wait that is already occurring.. 555

redistribution was used to label Obama in 2009 too "nothing to see, keep moving" --- a distraction

-- mainly a WTF -- Corps and banks are as profitable as ever and sitting on their cash... loan and expansion very weak... but executive pay way up... and when you hear about their cold feet because of RISK and Regulation --Bullshit. Well now that finally the Euros have a economic patch in place...???

Winter is their biggest hurddle coming up.

yes there is not an item to be done agenda.

stay tuned Dave watch CNN Internatioal or NBC on-line; you will get much of the drift

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There is not a clear set of demands yet in the USA occupy campaign, but there is in other countries. Spain has clear demands (and most think this is where it all began, not the Wall Street occupy, but the name hadn't been established yet).

What is being set up, and hopefully will be capitalized on in the uncoming Presidential election in the USA, is for unknown independent candidates of regular working people to come forward, joining the political election race at all levels, and exploit the nationwide number of Occupy participants, and sympathizers with a campaign platform attacking the rich, and corporate America. If there was a new party formed using the Occupy name it could have a big impact, much more so than the Tea Party movement. Their candidates are a joke.

If it is done right with the right unknown candidates (not from political circles), those people could win. The protesters, and those that support them are ripe for someone with a clear plan not favoring the rich, and putting a theoretical end to corruption to step forward. In the Middle East it is being done violently. In the USA it is now ripe to do it without much violence.

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There is not a clear set of demands yet in the USA occupy campaign' date=' but there is in other countries. Spain has clear demands (and most think this is where it all began, not the Wall Street occupy, but the name hadn't been established yet).

What is being set up, and hopefully will be capitalized on in the uncoming Presidential election in the USA, is for unknown independent candidates of regular working people to come forward, joining the political election race at all levels, and exploit the nationwide number of Occupy participants, and sympathizers with a campaign platform attacking the rich, and corporate America. If there was a new party formed using the Occupy name it could have a big impact, much more so than the Tea Party movement. Their candidates are a joke.

If it is done right with the right unknown candidates (not from political circles), those people could win. The protesters, and those that support them are ripe for someone with a clear plan not favoring the rich, and putting a theoretical end to corruption to step forward. In the Middle East it is being done violently. In the USA it is now ripe to do it without much violence.[/quote']

Yikes, this is so wrong. :-(

Spain, Greece, Ireland, and other countries are protesting austerity measures being considered or already enacted in those countries. They're raising retirement ages, cutting back on benefits, etc.

Whereas, OWS supporter (and professor at Princeton) Cornel West who has participated in the OWS protests summed it up pretty well when he said that they're not against the rich, they're against unchecked greed.

These are two completely different issues. The OWS are not protesting that they're government funded pensions won't start until they're 65 or that they have to work longer work weeks. Their message might not be polished but the main message of OWS is that the wealth gap has gotten too wide. They want checks and balances put in place that put everyone on the same footing (i.e. listening to the people instead of *JUST* listening to lobbyists and those rich enough to make large campaign contributions).

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