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first of all,i apologize to every Irish guy in TFs, pls don't get me wrong...this is just my experience and...i'm sure it's not about nations but more about the stereotype of thai girls to the world.

i hope this story brings something good to whoever that cares to think beyond the text.

last december i went to ireland, my sister owns a resturant there, quite a luxury one. the reasons for making it expensive is becoz she doesn't want to deal with certain type of people..i(i am sorry, no descrimination here whatsoever).

one night, the tables were all booked up. one good looking guy walked in and asked me if he could book a table for 25 guys. he actually almost 'begged' me to get in and said they just wanna have a meal then they'd off to a bar. i helped my sister arranged teh time with teh guy and he agreed to come in at teh certaion time...so they wouldn't overlap with other guests that had booked in advace.

ok, so they came in, they were at age 25-35. good looking, trendy and fashionable. that night, since the resturant was very busy, so i havd to help my sister manage the bar area. those guys stopped at the bar and talked to me...over teh conversation, many of them told me that they had visited thailand..and yes..Patpong was on call.

without any alcohol, 8-10 of them were standing at the bar counter...lstared at me and talked to each other..'man, she's f'''ing---..i'm stoned'

i mustta looked like a deaf or an idiot in their opinion, coz such words they spoke told me that

1, this ***** wouldn't understand what we were saying.

2, who cares, i wanna say it...thai gals are all h--kers anyway.

3,.............

4,........

5,.....

or

xyz, i'm not thinking anything, i just wanna talk, humiliating a woman is fun and......brain is an organ that i use for other purposes.

so those guys started to get drunk after dozens of Singha beers and wines. some of them asked if they could kissed me...i ended up kicking him out of the resturant.

if that was my own resturant, i would do more than that and i'm sure to have great slam! not that i am tough, no i am not...but i was mad enough.

the remainers--some acted like a nice guys...but no...i saw the devils in theyr eyes. some acted like real jerks...attached a stick on their pants and asked me if i like the size of it...that's just some samples.

so!...was it all becoz the are irish OR what it was becoz i am Thai?

think about it...

atomic,

ps. i'm not quite done writing but i decided to stop just here...

also, i feel like i've been treating like Ophra Winfrey here...please NO!...i dun like her and i dun like any kind of talk show.

don't believe in me so much, although i deeply appriciate...nbut i suck..and i'm not that great, ok, Bobby????

tlc keeps in touch again...and also gentle and caring as always...

i lost a cd-rom caleld 'living books' that i plan to write about it for my term paper.. :"(

i watched Third watch today, and i regreted that i didn't tape it. coz i could make a great studies out of this episode in terms of cinematography and media text...too abd...so i gotta stick with Disney-Recess'

ciao!

Welcome to the racist world girl? Just remember that racism it's not just a western monoply...come over to Hong Kong and you will see...cheers!

definately because they r irish.....to an irishman...a thai retaurant is a bondage den....

they go to get 'thaied' up and have the crap beaten out of them......

Most important point first, I believe in you enough for both of us because i know you--you're the best. I agree with many points here that have been said. I have no preconceptions about Thai people other than the ones i have spoken to on TF. If this is an indication of Thai people, then i think they are very friendly and good people. I can here many things about many people or races, it makes no difference to me because i draw my conclusions from each person, that's the best way for me. I understand what you are saying Atomic and i know it to happen again and again. As long as i'm judges on me, then it doesn't matter what others do i think. Remember, you are special in this world!!!!

And another thing. Onlynx and Slurms have said things that are a concern for me. I am a bit worried about being a "farang" when i go to Thailand. If i stick with the folks i've met here, i'm not as nervous about it. BBBK made me feel fantastic one day when she made a comment that she believes i'm not a "hunter", great, the true me is getting threw to people! Sorry about the spelling.

lol...you guys...i am a racist too....and i always admit that...

but don't miss the point here...the point i tried to say is not about IRISH, ONLYNX...OTHERWISE I WOULDN'T APOLOGIZE AT FIRST!

the point here is, DON'T JUST ONLY BLAME AT OTHERS ...BUT ALSO LOOK AT OUR OWN IMAGES...!!!

yelling at me with anger doesn't help anything better in any cases coz i've been digesting everything from A to Z before i wrote this journal. you don't need to teach me how to think....

anyhow, to answer your questions, NO, I'VE NEVER ENCOUNTERED ANY CANADIANS WHOM BEHAVE THAT WAY...BUT ONCE AGAIN, IT'S NOT ABOUT NATIONS!

if u look back to any of my posts, you'll see that i've never had any 'go-no-brains' or aggressive feedbacks to anything that ppl said against aThailand.

only thing i bumped to on one blogs of a canadian was that he called bangkok 'bang-my-kok' that didn't nake me mad, but rather emphasis the image of my country and his quick judgement.

there r always two sides of the story...that's what i said...and SLURMS....soon enough i'll write again...on how to fix this problem of thailand....

by the way, the humiliation started since they ahdn't got drunk...

DID I SAY THAT EVERY IRISH IS TEH SAME?

no i didn't say that, YOU SAID IT!

two of my most favorite guys are Irishs!

bobby.. millions and millions of farangs visit thailand... just like millions and millions of foreigners visit the usa every year... and both may encounter a little racism or if they are very unlucky, a lot, but for the most part they will have fine holidays, the end. don't worry about such small things... if you did you'd never walk out the front door.

and about all the conniving girls who hang out in certain areas and around certain hotels in BKK and who work freelance in various bars that are not girlie bars... well, what is wrong with just ignoring them? i just walk on by, and maybe give a smile if i hear some comment about me like 'hey sexy' or whatever. so they are absolutely never a problem.

well, to abet the stereotype a little, maybe Irish onlynx WAS drunk when he wrote above, and missed the beginning of your journal entry ;P

Thank you Ling, that was helpful to me. Yes, you are correct, i can just walk on by. Thanks man.

Oh, that really bad night ner . Don't be angry P'Jane , see the place where they were , we can also know how they are & think !

I thought you like Irish !!! not any more ?

Well atomic...racism is everywhere and in everybody and hard, if not impossible, to eradicate!! It has been like that since man began to put two words together, and there starting to bang eachother heads with batons.

People are the cause of it; and ignorance being the main problem, so the tendency to generalize will always be there when talking about people from different countries.

Examples: Are all british beer and pubs addicts? No, not all of course but many are. Are all french snobs and arrogants? Of course not, but many are, and so on and so forth...

So, it is our responsability to break away from those habits that characterize in the negative way the place where we come from. It is our responsability to spread around a good image of the country where we come from and let others understand our culture and habits. This means by understand ourself the traditions and lifestyles that we have had since centuries and then explain to others why we do something i/o something else. Everything has a reason..hystorical, religious and social...just let us be proud of it.

The villans of course will always be there atomic...not much we can do about, but there will be thre people ready to listen to what you have to say and ready to change the opinions about your country...but that is your job to do it...I mean OUR job!

thank you, GUY_MIA.

what you just said is universal...we all know that.

we all learned since kindergarten that when our friend was mad at someone, we did't have to mad at that person.

we know by heart that every single person has both good and bad side, one must not be defined his value by his nation. it's sinple...everybody knows that. the only place that stereotypes work very well is on media, hollywood films are the excellent example for that.

anyway, i'll write about this soon.

atomic

2unique,...

i've found you are an excellent friend, no but no color, no race!

Yes atomic...what I wrote is so basic, universal and "everybody know that!!"...I need not to say the thought of the day :-p Too many Nobel prizes has already done that..you don't need my modest opinion.

Yes, if it's so easy and universal and "eveybody knows that!" why is it so difficult to achieve?

because human fails in bringing up knowledge or theoriesinto practice. GUY_MIA

soooo atomic? ..any solution except for an "atomic" bomb and re-starting allover..."see- whether-we-get-it-right-this-time" solution? :-p

i have answers, but would you like to ask yourself first before asking me, GUY_MIA?

No..I do not have answers..which is why I asked you..

will write in my next journal...if i forget, remind me again

thanks

thank you Larry. : )

i know that they are just small group, i don't label the whole nation that way...

i love some irishs a lot too!

: D

Dearest Sis' Jane,,

For me, you are just great with this situation .. if i were you, i wouldn't be such a patient like this.. i would rightaway slap their faces, who cares ?? I don't even think that they could finish their conversations or sentenses...

I really know what you mean about this story !! It is not a discrimination.. nothing.. it is just a story to share .. every single nation has both good and bad people anyway ..

Cheers ka....

i think i shall reserve comment until i hear more of AF's opinion on the matter.

we can all speak in theory about the why and how and how it should be...but we are all human and when the ignorance of others is right in your face... well AF, I applaud you for your controlled behavior when faced with their stupidity.