condotown Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 I'm sure many TF readers read the Stickmanweekly column every week to keep abreast of a farang's take on Thailand. I have met Stickman (Paul) personally and he seems to have sold himself out lately with all the advertising on his site. In order to keep his column popular, he posts a lot more rumors, half-truths, and sensationalized bullshit than ever. He needs more substantiation. He is no journalist. My point is this excerpt from yesterday's posting: There would seem to have been something of a backlash against guys on the popular TF. I am hearing more and more tales of woe, some of them quite novel. At some of the TF parties, guys have been known to do a runner before they pay their bills! Other guys complain at beers priced at 75 baht a pop. While the site no doubt attracts a broad spectrum of punters, there is no shortage of younger guys with little baht in their pocket out for an easy lay. More and more of the girls on the site are talking about cheap farangs. And with TF not quite the same as it used to be, a number of that crowd is moving over to ****** which is very nice, but is all in Thai. Still, there are a heap of users on there and for local guys who can read and write Thai, the pickings are said to be very good indeed. If this is really happening, I'd like to tell Gi to just ask me and I'll pay for your drinks, man!!! Don't complain and don't run out the door. Just ask me and we can clean up our reputation on Stickman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
711_Dimsum Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 Hmm...I dont know the full story about ppl running out on the bill.When TF is holding an event, do you guys run a tab then just divy it up later? if so, thats just asking for problems.Or some ppl just getting lost in the crowd by avoiding the waitress that way? As for stickman, that place has always represented the ho runners.There's some truth there, but what some of those guys expect from girls they pick up in beer bars or FL's, just kills me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afook06 Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 I hope this is not all true about any TF's parties or functions? Aom's dinner boat cruise and photos seemed really enjoyable for all of those that attended I'm sorry, that I missed that one...... Eddie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiaranM Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 I typically like Stickman but did feel he got his facts wrong with his blurb about TF. I don't live in BKK and get to go to every TF function but the site seems the same it ever was. strange .... it's usually guys who don't live in thailand who feel Stickman is worth reading !! i've been told he's a decent guy, but gave up on his website as it was either a constant ***** about life in thailand or advice on which bars provided cheapest beers and best "shows"!!!! esential advice for some i guess !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anenglishman Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 So what is the other site? I could do with some easy pickings!!! On a blog forum I am part of I got accused today of being Stickman 2. Not sure how to take it...guess it was an insult. Personally I never read his stuff, meaning I used to, but no more. As for the event thing.....I am sure it happens, but not only TF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 i am not a fan of stickman. i think he writes mainly for the overseas holidayer/fantasyland types who dream of spending their 2 weeks' vacation shagging hookers. i'm not much interested in hookers so his column bores the **** out of me (guess what there were hookers in new york too *yawn*). seems to me the kind of stuff that he generally covers that *could* be useful about the "entertainment scene" would take a maximum of one evening to figure out if you hadn't already preemptively figured it out through common sense (but yes i understand most farrang males leave theirs at the airport, that's why they made the new airport bigger). and when he writes about anything else, it's too much filtered through the "my universe consists of bargirls and the dumbasses who forget t bargirls are hookers and pay for buffalo repair kits" lens. i did get a good laugh out of reading his advice on how to date "good girls" sorta basic, hackneyed self-help crap except tailored to the guy who doesn't know how to approach a woman where no barfine is involved. also his website has all the visual elan of a weeping sore. short version: stickman is bores me and his POV is highly distorted. great if you live overseas and have never actually shagged a bargirl yet dream incessantly about it. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz as for guys doing a runner--i dont go to that many events so it probably wasn't me but if it was me i probably was too drunk to know the difference. if i was actually at an event and your'e clever enough to hit me up for "my share of the bill" afterward i'm scatterbrained enough where you can probably hit me up repeatedly for the same event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyboy Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 c,mon zeus , sticks readers submissions are fantastic . they make me laugh any way , and you do get some good information sometimes. if you read his stuff now he stays away from the bar stuff a lot ,maybe because he's married , maybe because of sponsors who knows ? a least he tries to give another view on bangers? what about bangkok bob, mango sauce, and the like? they can be just as bad. i think more power to him if he is highlighting thailand in a good way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khun_lung Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 I think he fills the gap since Bernard Trink got fired from the Bangkokpost. I don't read it, not interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyboy Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 who the f*ck is stickman?i know not http://www.stickmanbangkok.com/ thats for you marty, enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylver Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 who the f*ck is stickman?i know not www.stickmanbangkok.com. The guy came to Thailand, started whoring, wrote a lot about it, and after about a year cleaned up his act, married a "good girl" and, according to him, stopped whoring around (True? Who cares?). Now he still writes a piece every week. It's supposed to be about Thailand, but 70% concerns gogo bars and thai prostitutes (the remaining 30% is a split between the hardship of teaching in Thailand and random stuff). If you want to know what's happening in the farang prostitution scene, that's the place to go. Occasionally, there are a couple bytes of interesting stuff. However the main thing you got to give the guy credit for is actually writing a column every week for 5 years. So, whenever you feel bored from reading about the virginity of some TF members (Can someone please shag that guy?), the "nobody loves me" posts or the bickering of your favorite snipers, you can still have a look over to stickman. It isn't too bad, if you don't mind the subject. Worthy of notice is a section for "reader stories". You will learn a lot about the proper care and maintenance of water buffaloes (some of the most expensive animals on the planet, I gather), but every once in a while, you will also see a nice story about life in Thailand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunsnow Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 Stickmans newest column, 8th of October about working with thais/in thailand. Good read, for anyone considering to try the move. I read the similar stuff from elsewhere too, unfortunatly. The first half of it was almost straight from one book I have, hmmm. Very thought provoking. I think that his column, the ones I have read from this year and last year (I have not read anything older than some last years columns,), are many times good, I'd say, 60% of times I find the column good. BUT as CiaranM says: hmm, strange indeed, why I like the column too, I dont live in BKK... I skip always the part of the weekly thing when it goes to the bar scene info though, not my cup of tea. But then I read always the Ask Mrs Sticks part, it is humorous many times (sadly). AND what comes to readers submissions, I wish there was the Star System into the older ones, I am bored with all the buffalo stories (reading some of them is helfull though to learn what kind of stuff goes on that front), but things considering the life, work, culture in Thailand are sometimes gems. But these kind of submissions are rare. I have read many intelligent "studies" and opinions there. It is a trouble to find them, one by one, but sometimes when I have time I make discovery journies to the archives and try to find something worth reading (that is the problem yeah, no rating system)... But must be hard to keep writing for five years. If he stops now, there will be a void, whatever one thinks about him. I think he has done a big job, and points for that. But now, he is promoting too much. :-( mangosauce.com, the new posting about "Why also Hua Hin seems to be now a ***** monger place, where to take parents?" shows some of the on off more general problems of Thailand presented on that site, that affect those who are not into naughty night scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 The guy came to Thailand, started whoring, wrote a lot about it, and after about a year cleaned up his act, married a "good girl" and, according to him, stopped whoring around (True? Who cares?). Ah yes - the famous 'leopard who changed his spots' success story in Bangkok. Brings a tear to my eye. No wait that's just icky eye goop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrinceofCalifornia Posted October 9, 2006 Report Share Posted October 9, 2006 Recomended reading for the novice ***** monger or even first time visitor to Thailand.....other than that it is a load of crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 http://www.notstickmanbangkok.com/ ah yes. notstickman. equally myopic, half as literate. what a waste of bandwidth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 I read the similar stuff from elsewhere too, unfortunatly. The first half of it was almost straight from one book I have, hmmm. Very thought provoking. that should tell you something. mangosauce.com, the new posting about "Why also Hua Hin seems to be now a ***** monger place, where to take parents?" shows some of the on off more general problems of Thailand presented on that site, that affect those who are not into naughty night scene. mangosauce?? not about "naughty night scene?" surely you jest sir. ocassionally entertaining but mainly for guys who can't get laid in the west to get together and affirm their "studliness" at the expense of western *******. an open letter to david, the guy who writes most (all?) the stuff there: dear david: not all "western *******" are loud, obnoxious, bloated sows. just the ones *you* can get. thank God you found thailand where you can actually get a little som'n som'n (if you barfine it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 flipping through sites like stickman and mangosauce makes me wonder: do white guys really need that much "guidance" to "naughty night life"? granted i'm no expert but seems to me about all one would really need is "there's nana. there's cowboy. there's patpong. if you really want to go to pattaya, you can take a bus (or taxi if your'e impatient.) be careful, use a condom and remember--keep your wits about you, they're after your money. and if you think you're "in love" grab your ears--and pull your head out of your ass. there. all advice given, now stickman and mangosauce are reduced to little more than ultrasoftcore porn for daydreamers who rarely (if ever) make it to thailand most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PattayaDaz Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 :oops: :oops: **** !...... I never saw you there Mick !! BTW......I do have muscles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 I see it all the time in Pattaya, FOB guys from wherever, spend 5 minutes with a *****, and you can see their faces, the shock and disbelief that a woman is actually talking to them and touching them showing some affection, (albeit to secure urgent buffalo funds) but the sucker doesn't know or see, or maybe even care, he just sees in front of him a woman spending time and giving attention. And it is at this point that the change happens... Maybe I am handsome! Maybe I do look like I work out! Maybe I am God's gift to all womankind! Then I believe they live that lifestyle in total belief. Once they have financed more Buffalo's than a Buffalo salesman and have no money left they either f*ck off home or post on here under the various threads entitled "What great big lie will get me laid for free?" Just an observation. Cynical? Argue it......... Spot on...!!! just last night it was pissing down rain, so i had to take respite in a bar, Had to!!...and of course it is impolite to sit there and not at least buy a beer or two....or three I was watching this guy he was so obviously FOB He slides into the bar almost inconspicuously, eyes eveywhere, shoulders closed head down, sits down, orders beer. girls comes up to him, and then starts to work the magic, touching his leg, talking to him telling him how handsome he is, feeling his muscles telling him how strong he is... His whole appearance/body language changed instantly, sat up straighter on his bar stool, bought her a drink, pumped out his chest started laughing and joking, much more animated. This went on for about 10 minutes and then bingo!!!.... bar fine and check bin settled walks out hand in hand with probably the least attractive girl in bar, with his chest pumped up walking upright, biggest smile on his dial and i'm sure he was feeling well pleased with himself having had his ego suitably inflated. So i'd say yes he truly did believe he was the Handsome man, Sexy man of the moment and he'll probably go on believing that for all eternity, and yes when the money runs out, yep i agree, then the creativity comes into play, how can i scam it for free or at least as little as possible, what shonk can i get up to to get back here/stay here longer. so what your'e saying, really, is that greeneyes_nice just hasn't met the right bargirl yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunsnow Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 mangosauce?? not about "naughty night scene?" surely you jest sir. ocassionally entertaining but mainly for guys who can't get laid in the west to get together and affirm their "studliness" at the expense of western *******. I just wanted to bring out that atleast that ONE out of ten postings is NOT about naughty nght life. Definetly the site is more like "ladzine", FHM type o stuff, with Thai twist.. Mainly, the site has too often a tone of some horrible white woman "bashing" which I don't like at all, and secondly about night life, somewhere long behind comes these one out of ten postings about more "cleaner" stuff. (Especially the sad SOBs who post there comments, they are one hell of a bunch of ***** mongers and white woman haters.) I hate those comments section. I like the site writers stuff when it is not about bad mouthing western women. But the weirdos commenting, huh huh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted October 10, 2006 Report Share Posted October 10, 2006 . (Especially the sad SOBs who post there comments, they are one hell of a bunch of ***** mongers and white woman haters.)I hate those comments section. I like the site writers stuff when it is not about bad mouthing western women. But the weirdos commenting, huh huh. i dunno i kinda find it amusing to imagine them all sitting silently in a go go bar, looking bitter. one of them mutters "western *******" and like a college drinking game they all raise their glass. then "david" the mangosauce guy walks in the room, the clouds part, angelic choirs trill... and they all rush to set up a beer and chair for their lord and savior. "goddamn western *******." david mutters, they all raise their glass, this time not sipping, chugging with a religious zeal. yes i am laughing at them not with them, but what's wrong with a little good, clean fun at the expense of the socially retarded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiaranM Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 but what's wrong with a little good, clean fun at the expense of the socially retarded? i thought it was compulsory to laugh at social retards .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 but what's wrong with a little good, clean fun at the expense of the socially retarded? i thought it was compulsory to laugh at social retards .... you'd think, but why is it all the heavy lifting is left for dedicated folks like you and i? bunch of slackers out there, that's what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiaranM Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 but what's wrong with a little good, clean fun at the expense of the socially retarded? i thought it was compulsory to laugh at social retards .... you'd think, but why is it all the heavy lifting is left for dedicated folks like you and i? bunch of slackers out there, that's what. lucky for the moral well being of TF and the world at large there's guys like me and U around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anenglishman Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 I read the similar stuff from elsewhere too, unfortunatly. The first half of it was almost straight from one book I have, hmmm. Very thought provoking. that should tell you something. mangosauce.com, the new posting about "Why also Hua Hin seems to be now a ***** monger place, where to take parents?" shows some of the on off more general problems of Thailand presented on that site, that affect those who are not into naughty night scene. mangosauce?? not about "naughty night scene?" surely you jest sir. ocassionally entertaining but mainly for guys who can't get laid in the west to get together and affirm their "studliness" at the expense of western *******. an open letter to david, the guy who writes most (all?) the stuff there: dear david: not all "western *******" are loud, obnoxious, bloated sows. just the ones *you* can get. thank God you found thailand where you can actually get a little som'n som'n (if you barfine it). Personally I find MangoSauce very funny. Seductive titles that suggest a lot but are usually a lead into a story that is not really about the sex scene at all. The problem with the site is the comments. I think David should moderate much more aggressively. I think that may be why Google delisted him a few months ago. But for a fun, if somewhat saucy and sexist, read...it's not bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted October 11, 2006 Report Share Posted October 11, 2006 Personally I find MangoSauce very funny. Seductive titles that suggest a lot but are usually a lead into a story that is not really about the sex scene at all. The problem with the site is the comments. I think David should moderate much more aggressively. I think that may be why Google delisted him a few months ago. But for a fun, if somewhat saucy and sexist, read...it's not bad. it definitely can be funny. just that, quite often, it's not on purpose. david is a better read than stickman but generally equally useless. most of the stuff that is not about the "naughty nightlife" scene is filtered through the lens of someone who spends most of their free time in and around go go bars. so no, i disagree, ultimately it is all at least tangential to the sex scene. which is fine if that's what you're into, i find it dull. generally i'm not any more interested in a guy's adventures shagging hookers than in his morning dump. ps i doubt he'll ever moderate those "western *******" guys, he agrees with them pretty consistently, he just happens to be able to have more than two brain cells to rub together, and be able to string words together in an amusing way intentionally, unlike most of the commenters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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