bigKus Posted October 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 okay.. may be i asked TOO defficult question.. let me re-ask.. :roll: What do you think and how do you feel if you were that girl who got slammed at face from that d*mn door from a stupid waiter who suddenly left her to PRESENT HIS FACE to farangs , if farangs would find it impressive then toss him some their small money as tip. understand better now ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Norfolkinchance Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 okay.. may be i asked TOO defficult question.. let me re-ask.. :roll: What do you think and how do you feel if you were that girl who got slammed at face from that d*mn door from a stupid waiter who suddenly left her to PRESENT HIS FACE to farangs , if farangs would find it impressive then toss him some their small money as tip. understand better now ? Then i would say it is a problem of perception and a problem of Thai society rather than the fault of the 'farang'. And I find the term 'farang' - (ie anything not Thai) a bit narrow minded and xenophobic when it refers to everyone and everything not Thai. I think you will find it is a problem of the Thai waiter rather than the foreigner who just went to eat or buy something. You are the ones that have the hi-so levels that expect and get more, not the travelling tourist or the expat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lizardo Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 If the assistant walked away whilst serving me to serve someone else (regardless of race), because they thought that the other customer had more to spend then, depending on my mood, the assistant would be left in no uncertain terms (and anyone within 50 years and not deaf) that the manager's presence is required immediately, whereupon the manager, assistant and other customer would be embarassed beyond bellief, or I might just go and spend my money elsewhere. what if someone was centuries away...captain kirk? barbarella? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beej Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 okay.. may be i asked TOO defficult question.. let me re-ask.. :roll: What do you think and how do you feel if you were that girl who got slammed at face from that d*mn door from a stupid waiter who suddenly left her to PRESENT HIS FACE to farangs , if farangs would find it impressive then toss him some their small money as tip. understand better now ? I'd feel like a stupid stuck up slut that thinks someone should open a door for me to walk through!!! Tell the silly ***** to open her own ******* doors thats what a few million years of evolution is for......... to give you ******* arms to do stuff yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beej Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 Calling who names some fictional character? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigKus Posted October 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 Morning,BigKus - take a look behind the curtains - there is a lot of shame to see. Swallow your pride or display it only when its indicated. And I would advise all those Thai using the word Farang, that many westerners find it extremely inappropriate, impolite and arrogant. Just my 2 bt. Ray Morning Ray, Thank you for your 2 bt. My aopologies to call you farangs just becuase if i call you something else ( foreigners, chao-tang-chart ) i afraid that noone would understand what da h*ck i talking about, not everyone smart here. :? Please accept my apologies and forget it. bigKus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyboy Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 Dear Forum Moderators,Kindly keep away some smartasses here who distroted the forum topic and can not look further ahead from their own d**ks. Thanks ------------------------------------- bigKus The chosen premium member and forum thread owner ;-) Without being rude, who do you think you are, someone special ? Yes, i think i m special and everyone can be a special themselve, so do you ( you can figure youselfe later what special you are, dont be shy ) :wink: Sorry to disillusion you but you're not special, you're ten a penny. You post something on a PUBLIC forum, don't like the answers, then have the audacity to complain about the replies you are receiving. Its true that i dont like some answers but its okay, what they answered here are represent themself in reality, let them spit their sh*t freely. So why complain then ? " The chosen premium member and forum thread owner "I'm premium, does that make me special with higher privileges than non- premium members ? I just STATE myself status here in the website, that it.. not require any privilege, you can do yours too. Why do you need to mention your status ? Premium and non- premium members' points are all valid. And also, how do you "OWN " a thread on a public forum ?Start yes, own NO. I own my thought, too bad it happened to be a topic of this forum thread, sorry said so, my bad :? You do own your thoughts, yes. for what they're worth. Everyday i face discrimination against me here in Thailand, do i start a thread every time something happens ? That is individual problems (mentioned before ), you have right to protect yourself from anyone who want to kick your d*ck If this is all you have to worry about then i envy you. Please stop complaining, grow up and shop somewhere else where they want your custom ......... I didnt complian any farangs here, just asking if they enjoy the privileges which they would sometimes provided by the waiter whome expected from to get a bigger tip ( but someone dont leave even a single baht coin ) Would it not be more pertinent to ask about the everyday discrimination "farangs" face here in Thailand, please believe me when i say i personally don't receive that many privileges. Funny enough though, i do get cheated a lot.....but who's complaining eh.....?........ And tipping, i leave that for Americans........ :twisted: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katoom Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 Morning,BigKus - take a look behind the curtains - there is a lot of shame to see. Swallow your pride or display it only when its indicated. And I would advise all those Thai using the word Farang, that many westerners find it extremely inappropriate, impolite and arrogant. Just my 2 bt. Ray Morning Ray, Thank you for your 2 bt. My aopologies to call you farangs just becuase if i call you something else ( foreigners, chao-tang-chart ) i afraid that noone would understand what da h*ck i talking about, not everyone smart here. :? Please accept my apologies and forget it. bigKus How could anyone forget it when it still blares out from the forum title? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigKus Posted October 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 Morning,BigKus - take a look behind the curtains - there is a lot of shame to see. Swallow your pride or display it only when its indicated. And I would advise all those Thai using the word Farang, that many westerners find it extremely inappropriate, impolite and arrogant. Just my 2 bt. Ray Morning Ray, Thank you for your 2 bt. My aopologies to call you farangs just becuase if i call you something else ( foreigners, chao-tang-chart ) i afraid that noone would understand what da h*ck i talking about, not everyone smart here. :? Please accept my apologies and forget it. bigKus How could anyone forget it when it still blares out from the forum title? i did not ask him forget farangs, but forget feeling insulted being called farangs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
afook06 Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 Reading this forum, I don't understand why Westerners or Caucasions have resentment to be termed a "Farang"? Isn't just a general term for a foreigner? I mean I consider myself a farang too, but I don't think I ever heard anyone really addressing me as a farang.......they usualy call me Mr or Sir.........so what's the big hangup about all of this? As far as being charged higher versas a local Thai, yes..this is wrong and what we all call discrimination..........but this is their country, and when in "Rome, do as the Romans .........we all still have the choice, either don't pay, and don't go.......not all airports charge an exit fee, but I don't see that stopping Farangs that wish to enter Thailand! Hey, we all win some and lose some........if the Thai people want to change all of this, then it's up to them, it's their country......we can either decide to stay or leave! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katoom Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 The word ferang in Thai eyes is no more derogatory than the word Asian is to Asians, it just sounds like it is to westerners.Or is "Asian" derogatory too? I don't see the connection with your comparison with 'Asian', really... But anyway, that was not my point and you are preaching to the converted here in Hong Kong. Of course I know that the word is accepted into the local vernacular, the same is the case here in HK for us 'Gwielo'. The funny thing is that I get asked if it upsets me all the time by local colleagues and friends, almost as if they are more concious of using the term than westerners are of hearing it. On the whole, we seem to be able to accept it far easier than the indigenous poulation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beej Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 The sole reason for this forum thread was for Bigkus to sob about how some bird couldn't have the door opened for her because the waiter was too busy dealing with some western coustomers? Why is this such a big deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norfolkinchance Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 The word ferang in Thai eyes is no more derogatory than the word Asian is to Asians, it just sounds like it is to westerners.Or is "Asian" derogatory too? Not at all. However, Farang refers to anything not Thai. Foreign - would be what Brits would refer to as anything not British, but I dont hear anyone in this day and age calling everyone not British as 'foreign' Therein lies the difference. Not about what is derigatory or not, it is simply an indication of how xenophobic the term can be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katoom Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 The sole reason for this forum thread was for Bigkus to sob about how some bird couldn't have the door opened for her because the waiter was too busy dealing with some western coustomers?Why is this such a big deal? I think the clues start at the title of the thread allied to the underlying tone in the way it is delivered? I could be wrong so shoot me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norfolkinchance Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 The word ferang in Thai eyes is no more derogatory than the word Asian is to Asians, it just sounds like it is to westerners.Or is "Asian" derogatory too? Not at all. However, Farang refers to anything not Thai. Foreign - would be what Brits would refer to as anything not British, but I dont hear anyone in this day and age calling everyone not British as 'foreign' Therein lies the difference. Not about what is derigatory or not, it is simply an indication of how xenophobic the term can be. Ferang means of western origin, not something foreign. That's why it more or less equates more to a word more akin to Asian(meaning eastern), than simply foreign. So please explain to me why I have heard Indians refered to as farang Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damnam1 Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 It depends on in which context the word farang is used.Often it is used in a derogatory manner. This topic deals with lack of politeness, but the ones Bigkus blames are often the ones cheated. When we foreigners read between theThai lines, we understand that, especially the expats are tolerated in Thailand, at best accepted, but rarely integrated. One should focus that you better not slaughter the cow that provides the milk... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norfolkinchance Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 The word ferang in Thai eyes is no more derogatory than the word Asian is to Asians, it just sounds like it is to westerners.Or is "Asian" derogatory too? Not at all. However, Farang refers to anything not Thai. Foreign - would be what Brits would refer to as anything not British, but I dont hear anyone in this day and age calling everyone not British as 'foreign' Therein lies the difference. Not about what is derigatory or not, it is simply an indication of how xenophobic the term can be. Ferang means of western origin, not something foreign. That's why it more or less equates more to a word more akin to Asian(meaning eastern), than simply foreign. So please explain to me why I have heard Indians refered to as farang You were mistaken. Check with your Thai friends. Ferang are white. Indians, specifically, are "kon India" or more generally "kon Asia" or " ᢡ" (which is also a term the recipients might not appreciate). Hey, I dont profess to be a Thai speaking expert. I have even heard Japanese food being described as farang food. But hey, what the heck. Getting off the main point of the original post here methinks..... and it is nearly weekend!!! Everything will seem much more positive after a few Heineken's!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankenburner2 Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 Dear Forum Moderators,Kindly keep away some smartasses here who distroted the forum topic and can not look further ahead from their own d**ks. Thanks ------------------------------------- bigKus The chosen premium member and forum thread owner ;-) Dear self-chosen one, Kiss our equally premium collective asses. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankenburner2 Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 ciaranM: bigkus a dumbass? :shock: she MUST be! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankenburner2 Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 okay.. may be i asked TOO defficult question.. let me re-ask.. :roll: What do you think and how do you feel if you were that girl who got slammed at face from that d*mn door from a stupid waiter who suddenly left her to PRESENT HIS FACE to farangs , if farangs would find it impressive then toss him some their small money as tip. understand better now ? if you're "that girl"...I think...bwahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha bahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha... ahem....thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigKus Posted October 26, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 *sigh* :? Seems someone farang ( a poor thing ) gone crazy now, he might too often been cheated or been pressured from waiters whom expected a bigger tip from him .. too sad, my condolence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norfolkinchance Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 *sigh* :? Seems someone farang ( a poor thing ) gone crazy now, he might too often been cheated or been pressured from waiters whom expected a bigger tip from him .. too sad, my condolence. i must admit, i did find this 'debate' quite interesting earlier this afternoon but am getting pretty dang tired of it now...... beers please!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankenburner2 Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 *sigh* :? Seems someone farang ( a poor thing ) gone crazy now, he might too often been cheated or been pressured from waiters whom expected a bigger tip from him .. too sad, my condolence. i must admit, i did find this 'debate' quite interesting earlier this afternoon but am getting pretty dang tired of it now...... beers please!!!! Sorry...I had some time to kill...watching her is starting to look like a retard trying to hump a doorknob... beers are on me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beej Posted October 26, 2007 Report Share Posted October 26, 2007 *sigh* :? Seems someone farang ( a poor thing ) gone crazy now, he might too often been cheated or been pressured from waiters whom expected a bigger tip from him .. too sad, my condolence. Seems like you have massive racist hook ups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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