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Metropolitan Police kill again!


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Once again, and despite the condemnation of their overreactions to the De Menezes case, the Metropolitan Police have proven that they are the haven for the thugs and bully boys who love to wear uniforms. Long known by protesters as being the most violent of police forces, the death of Ian Tomlinson, AN INNOCENT BYSTANDER on his way home from work, shows the general public the levels that the Met will stoop to. They have already told lies about this incident, claiming protesters impeded medical assistance getting to Tomlinson and that he was 'resisting'. The footage was not taken by a protester, but by a Hedge Fund manager from NYC.(from The Guardian) Ian Tomlinson, the man who died at last week's G20 protests in London, was attacked from behind and thrown to the ground by a baton-wielding police officer in riot gear, dramatic footage obtained by the ­Guardian shows.Moments after the assault on ­Tomlinson was captured on video, he ­suffered a heart attack and died.The Guardian is preparing to hand a ­dossier of evidence to the police ­complaints watchdog. It sheds fresh light on the events ­surrounding the death of the 47-year-old newspaper seller, who had been on his way home from work when he was confronted by lines of riot police near the Bank of England.The submission to the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) includes a collection of testimonies from witnesses, along with the footage, shot at about 7.20pm last Wednesday, which shows ­Tomlinson at Royal Exchange ­Passage. The film reveals that as he walks, with his hands in his pockets, he does not speak to the police or offer any resistanceA phalanx of officers, some with dogs and some in riot gear, are close behind him and try to urge him forward.A Metropolitan police officer appears to strike him with a baton, hitting him from behind on his upper thigh.Moments later, the same policeman rushes forward and, using both hands, pushes Tomlinson in the back and sends him flying to the ground, where he ­remonstrates with police who stand back, leaving bystanders to help him to his feet.The man who shot the footage, a fund manager from New York who was in ­London on business, said he had attended the protests out of curiosity. He said: "The primary reason for me coming forward is that it was clear the family were not ­getting any answers."The Guardian's dossier also includes a sequence of photographs, taken by three people, showing the aftermath of the attack, as well as witness statements from people in the area at the time.A number of witnesses provided time and date-stamped photographs which substantiated their accounts.Some said they saw police officers attack Tomlinson.Witnesses said that, prior to the moment captured on video, he had already been hit with batons and thrown to the floor by police who blocked his route home.One witness, Anna Branthwaite, a ­photographer, described how in the ­minutes before the video was shot, she saw Tomlinson walking towards Cornhill Street."A riot police officer had already grabbed him and was pushing him," she said. "It wasn't just pushing him – he'd rushed him. He went to the floor and he did actually roll. That was quite noticeable."It was the force of the impact. He bounced on the floor. It was a very forceful knocking down from behind. The officer hit him twice with a baton when he was lying on the floor. "So it wasn't just that the officer had pushed him – it became an assault. And then the officer picked him up from the back, continued to walk or charge with him, and threw him."He was running and stumbling. He didn't turn and confront the officer or anything like that."The witness accounts contradict the official version of events given by police.In an official statement on the night of Tomlinson's death, the Metropolitan police made no reference to any ­contact with officers and described attempts by police medics and an ambulance crew to save his life after he collapsed – efforts which they said were marred by ­protesters throwing missiles as first aid was ­administered .The force said officers had created a ­cordon around Tomlinson to give him CPR."The officers took the decision to move him as during this time a number of ­missiles – believed to be bottles – were being thrown at them," it said.Yesterday, the IPCC began managing an investigation by City of London police into the ­circumstances of ­Tomlinson's death after the Guardian ­published photographs of him on the ground and witness statements indicated he had been assaulted by police officers.The IPCC's commissioner for London, Deborah Glass, said: "Initially, we had accounts from independent witnesses who were on Cornhill, who told us that there had been no contact between the police and Mr Tomlinson when he collapsed."However, other witnesses who saw him in the Royal Exchange area have since told us that Mr Tomlinson did have ­contact with police officers."This would have been a few minutes before he collapsed. It is important that we are able to establish as far as possible whether that contact had anything to do with his death."The IPCC added that Tomlinson was captured on CCTV walking onto Royal Exchange Passage."This is the aspect of the incident that the IPCC is now investigating," it said.It was here the video was shot. A post mortem carried out by a Home Office pathologist last Friday revealed ­Tomlinson died of a heart attack. Prior to seeing the dossier of evidence, Tomlinson's ­family said in a statement: "There were so many people around where Ian died, and so many people with cameras, that ­somebody must have seen what happened in the Royal Exchange passageway."We need to know what happened there and whether it had anything to do with Ian's death.We know that some ­people who were at the protest may not feel comfortable talking to the police."People are putting pictures on the internet, writing on blogs and talking to journalists. But we really need them to talk to the people who are investigating what happened."  

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Once again, and despite the condemnation of their overreactions to the De Menezes case, the Metropolitan Police have proven that they are the haven for the thugs and bully boys who love to wear uniforms. Long known by protesters as being the most violent of police forces, the death of Ian Tomlinson, AN INNOCENT BYSTANDER on his way home from work, shows the general public the levels that the Met will stoop to. They have already told lies about this incident, claiming protesters impeded medical assistance getting to Tomlinson and that he was 'resisting'. The footage was not taken by a protester, but by a Hedge Fund manager from NYC.(from The Guardian) Ian Tomlinson, the man who died at last week's G20 protests in London, was attacked from behind and thrown to the ground by a baton-wielding police officer in riot gear, dramatic footage obtained by the ­Guardian shows.Moments after the assault on ­Tomlinson was captured on video, he ­suffered a heart attack and died.The Guardian is preparing to hand a ­dossier of evidence to the police ­complaints watchdog. It sheds fresh light on the events ­surrounding the death of the 47-year-old newspaper seller, who had been on his way home from work when he was confronted by lines of riot police near the Bank of England.The submission to the Independent Police Complaints Commission (IPCC) includes a collection of testimonies from witnesses, along with the footage, shot at about 7.20pm last Wednesday, which shows ­Tomlinson at Royal Exchange ­Passage. The film reveals that as he walks, with his hands in his pockets, he does not speak to the police or offer any resistanceA phalanx of officers, some with dogs and some in riot gear, are close behind him and try to urge him forward.A Metropolitan police officer appears to strike him with a baton, hitting him from behind on his upper thigh.Moments later, the same policeman rushes forward and, using both hands, pushes Tomlinson in the back and sends him flying to the ground, where he ­remonstrates with police who stand back, leaving bystanders to help him to his feet.The man who shot the footage, a fund manager from New York who was in ­London on business, said he had attended the protests out of curiosity. He said: "The primary reason for me coming forward is that it was clear the family were not ­getting any answers."The Guardian's dossier also includes a sequence of photographs, taken by three people, showing the aftermath of the attack, as well as witness statements from people in the area at the time.A number of witnesses provided time and date-stamped photographs which substantiated their accounts.Some said they saw police officers attack Tomlinson.Witnesses said that, prior to the moment captured on video, he had already been hit with batons and thrown to the floor by police who blocked his route home.One witness, Anna Branthwaite, a ­photographer, described how in the ­minutes before the video was shot, she saw Tomlinson walking towards Cornhill Street."A riot police officer had already grabbed him and was pushing him," she said. "It wasn't just pushing him – he'd rushed him. He went to the floor and he did actually roll. That was quite noticeable."It was the force of the impact. He bounced on the floor. It was a very forceful knocking down from behind. The officer hit him twice with a baton when he was lying on the floor. "So it wasn't just that the officer had pushed him – it became an assault. And then the officer picked him up from the back, continued to walk or charge with him, and threw him."He was running and stumbling. He didn't turn and confront the officer or anything like that."The witness accounts contradict the official version of events given by police.In an official statement on the night of Tomlinson's death, the Metropolitan police made no reference to any ­contact with officers and described attempts by police medics and an ambulance crew to save his life after he collapsed – efforts which they said were marred by ­protesters throwing missiles as first aid was ­administered .The force said officers had created a ­cordon around Tomlinson to give him CPR."The officers took the decision to move him as during this time a number of ­missiles – believed to be bottles – were being thrown at them," it said.Yesterday, the IPCC began managing an investigation by City of London police into the ­circumstances of ­Tomlinson's death after the Guardian ­published photographs of him on the ground and witness statements indicated he had been assaulted by police officers.The IPCC's commissioner for London, Deborah Glass, said: "Initially, we had accounts from independent witnesses who were on Cornhill, who told us that there had been no contact between the police and Mr Tomlinson when he collapsed."However, other witnesses who saw him in the Royal Exchange area have since told us that Mr Tomlinson did have ­contact with police officers."This would have been a few minutes before he collapsed. It is important that we are able to establish as far as possible whether that contact had anything to do with his death."The IPCC added that Tomlinson was captured on CCTV walking onto Royal Exchange Passage."This is the aspect of the incident that the IPCC is now investigating," it said.It was here the video was shot. A post mortem carried out by a Home Office pathologist last Friday revealed ­Tomlinson died of a heart attack. Prior to seeing the dossier of evidence, Tomlinson's ­family said in a statement: "There were so many people around where Ian died, and so many people with cameras, that ­somebody must have seen what happened in the Royal Exchange passageway."We need to know what happened there and whether it had anything to do with Ian's death.We know that some ­people who were at the protest may not feel comfortable talking to the police."People are putting pictures on the internet, writing on blogs and talking to journalists. But we really need them to talk to the people who are investigating what happened."  

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Better start running/cause the cops are coming...

Police brutality and repression is the essence of each system...poor guy was one of many "collateral"...

It is time for open society, without repression of any kind...maybe it is only a dream...

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sad to see, but it seems to me like he was trying to slow the officers down, hence he got a shove, if riot police and big barking dogs were closing behind me, i wouldnt be doodling around with my hands in my pockets, i would get the hell out of there...

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If his hands where in his pockets then that would be a non threatening gesture as he would not be able to defend himself or strike anyone else. It's once again a case of a bully officer believing he is above the law. There is no excuse for striking someone from behind like this. The officer involved should be dismissed and so should all the other officers who gave false statements to cover up the real events.

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Are you a Doctor? Are you a Judge? Are you a Jury? You cannot say the Police killed again until he/she/they have been found guilty in a court of Law. Yes I have seen that video and yes the officer's actions should be fully investigated.

One thing that annoys me nowdays, everyone (especially the press) are too damn quick to judge people. I still believe in the saying "Everyone is innocent till proven guilty".

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Daniel -the guy was walking home from work - he had nothing to do with the protest at all.

Clueless (apt name) - no am not Doctor, Judge or jury, but am sure that, as in the De Menezes case, this will be covered up and glossed over. I have witnessed, on several occasions, the brutality of the Met. I was steward on a demo once and while trying to calm down a bunch of idiots, an officer waded in with his baton. I ended up with 6 stitches in my head for that one. AND I WAS WEARING A HI-VIS STEWARDING VEST!!!

This may not be murder but should be manslaughter at the least and it would be had it been an ordinary guy who had assaulted Tomlinson. Dont know what world you are living in, but it is more a case of gulty until proven innocent these days mate.

Raven my friend, I'm afraid that it is an idealistic dream. We will never have an 'open society'. If anything we will become more like America with an erosion of civil liberties and in fact, if I remember rightly, London already has more ctv coverage than any other world city.

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Iain, not sure that the De Menezes case can be compared to a crowd control policing context but the misuse or unlawful use of force by ill disciplined police is of course nothing new. I can't imagine any SOP for crowd control permitting the application of force to the rear a person who is withdrawing from the area, or in the context passing by with his hands in his pocket!

At least the chain of events has come to light and hopefully there will be a transparent and proper investigation.

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LG - of course there are a lot of differences in the 2 cases, but the similarities lie in the usual overreactions of the Met. Having liaised, clashed and shouted at most of the police forces of major UK cities, I have always found the Met belligerent and overeactionary in the way they deal with demos.

The 'corraling' method they used at the G20 is nothing new; I was on an anti BNP march about 16 years ago and rather than allow the crowd of 30000 to go past the BNP HQ (which would have resulted in the building being destroyed) they corralled the crowd into a bottleneck with the inevitable outcome that those at the front were getting squashed by those behind and the police line was eventually attacked, purely as a means of escaping the crush they were ignoring.

The Met commissioner has said there will be a full investigation, but it is virtually certain to be a whitewash as these things usually are.

There may not be a written SOP that advises the tactics seen on the video, but it is pretty much standard procedure by a lot of Met officers in situations like this.

While I will concede that there is always a percentage of assholes at these demos, especially the anti globalisation ones, I have witnessed similar tactics at completely peaceful demos.

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Cop killers, if convicted, go down for life with a normal minimum reccomendation of 25-30 years. Killer cops, if prosecuted at all, get a slapped wrist and "don't do it again" Likewise the cops who commit perjury to get an innocent person convicted hardly ever get what they deserve. Justice or "just us"?

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And one of the worst aspects is the IPCC, ths so-called "Independent Police Complaints Commission" who are supposed to look into complaints against the police. And who runs the investigating into cops? More cops!!! No doubt, they will be totally unbiased and thorough - I don't think. This must be some new meaning of "independent" that I've never previouisly been aware of. And yes Iain, there are one or two things we seem to agree on, much to my disgust :-))

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Unfortunately I am not clueless - despite the name -, I am more of a realist (or someone who hopes for the best out of everyone and everything).

The world I live in is one that still believes in the old adage of innocent until proven guilty, despite what this Government, Press or anyone else may think. Also I believe you cannot and must not judge one incidence by past events that may (or may not) have occured. Each case must always be dealt with on an individual basis. If this makes me naive in your eyes, then I am happy to be naive. I truely hope this that the death is fully (and independently) investigated - including the new photos that have been published, and if the officer(s) are prove guilty, then they are sentence appropiately.

Note: some members of my family have been Metpol officers in the recent past, however believe me when I say I have no love lost for a significant percentage of the force. I have seen both sides of the job, I have seen the WPC being spat in the face because she asked to see a person's ticket at a railway station, I have seen the officers coming to my aid when I (and a barrier staff) were being assaulted by a passenger, and yes I have also seen the off-duty officers overracting at some kids - which thankfully we managed to sort out.

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