The "offical" 1-day thread

[CiaranM]

now with the ashes humiliation behind them can England redeem themselves in the 1-day series ..... stop laughing all u Aussie fans.

due to some underhand methods England now have in their possession the Aussie masterpland on how to bowl out England and win the 1-dayers. it's not quite as detailed as the English plan, but appears much more effective.

how damaging will these leaked plans be to Aussie chances in this series.

from TMS on the BBC ....

"I have just been given a copy of Australia's plans for the one-day series:

1) Bowl line and length and some wicket-taking balls

2) Score lots of runs quickly with plenty of sixes

Hope this helps the England team."

George Walker

[Dave40]

4/168 after 37 overs the english may be in with a chance if they don't fall in a big heap!!!

[CiaranM]

4/168 after 37 overs the english may be in with a chance if they don't fall in a big heap!!!

yep, but falling in a big heap has been their speciality act lately !!!!

[I_am_George]

yep, but falling in a big heap has been their speciality act lately !!!!

I wonder if they will get an OBE for that too............. :roll:

[Dave40]

The English are struggling it's O/85 off 12 overs hope the kiwi's play better!!!

[MikeAussieGuy]

It took the POMS in 50 overs to get what it took the Aussies in 20 overs to get in the 20/20. As usual the Aussies made a farce out of the OBE's tonight, the Aussies won with 8 wickets and 5 overs in hand. I hear the Aussies are sending out the under 21's for the next game, the bookies still have them as favourites.

I hear you can buy an OBE in e Bay as those who were awarded it for something worthwhile are too embarrassed to hang onto it for what it has come to represent.

[CiaranM]

It took the POMS in 50 overs to get what it took the Aussies in 20 overs to get in the 20/20. As usual the Aussies made a farce out of the OBE's tonight, the Aussies won with 8 wickets and 5 overs in hand. I hear the Aussies are sending out the under 21's for the next game, the bookies still have them as favourites.

I hear you can buy an OBE in e Bay as those who were awarded it for something worthwhile are too embarrassed to hang onto it for what it has come to represent.

as an irishman i find it painful to watch the humiliation of our beloved neighbours the english ....

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha :twisted: :twisted:

[MikeAussieGuy]

now with the ashes humiliation behind them can England redeem themselves in the 1-day series ..... stop laughing all u Aussie fans.

due to some underhand methods England now have in their possession the Aussie masterpland on how to bowl out England and win the 1-dayers. it's not quite as detailed as the English plan, but appears much more effective.

how damaging will these leaked plans be to Aussie chances in this series.

from TMS on the BBC ....

"I have just been given a copy of Australia's plans for the one-day series:

1) Bowl line and length and some wicket-taking balls

2) Score lots of runs quickly with plenty of sixes

Hope this helps the England team."

George Walker

Mate that is just not correct. I saw the Aussie masterplan to beat the POMS tonight, it went something like this :

1/ Turn up

2/ Go home early.

[StevieJR]

They won the toss!!!

Who says they are all losers :roll:

[MikeAussieGuy]

They won the toss!!!

Who says they are all losers :roll:

Stevie, if the truth be known, according to a mate of mine, Ponting like Chapelli and Taylor is credited as having the knack to win a large percentage of tosses, until now. It seems that both the English captains on this tour have won more tosses against Ponting than anyone else.

So I guess the Wisdoms Almanac will read Australia - Tests 5-0, 20/20 1-0, One Day 5-0, Toss 4-7 (guess).

[StevieJR]

Dont you think the word TOSS is kinda apt when referring to England at the moment??

[JayB]

And the only big girls blouse to put up any sort of a fight, Kevin Pietersen, is out of the rest of the series with a fractured rib

I thought the poms said OAP McGrath couldn?t bowl fast anymore

Seems to be a nasty injury, he?s talking with a very strange English accent

Let?s see what the Kiwis have on Sunday

[MikeAussieGuy]

LMAO @ Stevie, point taken mate.

BJ I got to admit my respect for Piederson grew after he gamely batted on after being decked. According to the speed indicator, the ball hit him doing 112 off the pitch, fair square in the ribs. Did you notice the outline of the seam on his rib cage, it looked like a 3D tattoo of a cricket ball.

[JayB]

LMAO @ Stevie, point taken mate.

BJ I got to admit my respect for Piederson grew after he gamely batted on after being decked. According to the speed indicator, the ball hit him doing 112 off the pitch, fair square in the ribs. Did you notice the outline of the seam on his rib cage, it looked like a 3D tattoo of a cricket ball.

BJ? :shock:

I think someone?s got Friday on their mind :roll:

[Dave40]

I hope the kiwi's thrash em (England) when they play them, (only time I will go for the kiwi's)

For all the one day comp's (and cricket in general) that are played in England they should be a better side.It just goes to show that the County cricket system is not producing as many top class international cricket players as it once did.

Steve Waugh in his biography said the English players who play county cricket play for themselves don't train hard enough and play far to much cricket which leads to to many draws very conservative!!!!

[MikeAussieGuy]

It took the POMS in 50 overs to get what it took the Aussies in 20 overs to get in the 20/20. As usual the Aussies made a farce out of the OBE's tonight, the Aussies won with 8 wickets and 5 overs in hand. I hear the Aussies are sending out the under 21's for the next game, the bookies still have them as favourites.

I hear you can buy an MBE in e Bay as those who were awarded it for something worthwhile are too embarrassed to hang onto it for what it has come to represent.

London Times

Not everyone in England will be upset by England's 5-0 capitulation in the Ashes. Geoffrey Boycott's cat will soon be the beneficiary of an OBE after the former England and Yorkshire captain vented his spleen during the fifth Test in Sydney.

Boycott questioned the decision to award the entire England squad MBEs for winning the Ashes in 2005 only to see the majority of those players produce such poor performances in Australia: "People like me played 100 Test matches to get one, and [scored] 8,000 [runs]," Boycott said. "I didn't play five Test matches and get one.

"I feel so bad about mine I'm going to tie it round my cat. It doesn't mean anything anymore. It's a joke."

However, Boycott did identify a few players who he felt deserved their gongs: "Andrew Flintoff, who's a super player, Marcus Trescothick who's played a lot of Tests and done well, Michael Vaughan as the winning captain. But every Tom, **** or Harry?"

[MikeAussieGuy]

Question:

1/ What in all of history have the Irish or Scots EVER won, sport or otherwise?

2/ Name a famous Australian, inventor or otherwise?

I wait with interest to see list.

Hahahahahaha.

Took me 3 seconds to get this, when I have more time I'll send you a few Gb. :

Australian Nobel Prize Winners

* Lawrence Bragg & William Bragg, physicists received the Nobel Prize in 1915 for their work in x-ray crystallography. They remain the only father and son team to be awarded the prizeAmerican scientist Arthur Kornberg won the prize in 1959 for his work on genetics and his son Roger Kornberg won the prize in 2006 also for his work in genetics. However these were two seperate prizes rather than an award for a father-son team., and Lawrence who was aged 25 at the time is still the youngest recipient.

* Howard Florey received the prize in 1945 along with Alexander Fleming and Ernest Chain (both British) for their work on the medicinal properties of penicillin. It was Florey who later turned penecillin into the practical drug which was to save millions of lives. (See also Who was the Inventor?)

* Macfarlane Burnett received the prize in 1960 for his work on immunology.

* John Eccles received the prize in 1963 along with Andrew Huxley and Alan Hodgkin (both British) for their work on nerve cells.

* Patrick White received the prize in 1973 for literature.

* John Cornforth received the prize in 1975 for chemistry.

* John Harsanyi (Hungarian & Australian) who received the prize in 1994 for his mathematical contributions to economics.

* Peter Doherty and Rolf M. Zinkernagel (Swiss & Australian) who received the prize in 1996 for their work in immunology.

* Barry Marshall and Robin Warren received the prize in 2005 for their discovery in 1982 of the Helicobacter pylori bacterium which causes stomach ulcers and gastritis.

Industry

* Calyx Drill - developed by by Francis Davis around 1893, this drill was used for drilling large holes in rock and was adopted in many countries around the world because it reduced waste and was highly economical.

* Flotation Process - the froth flotation process used in the separation of minerals from rocks was developed during 1901-1903 by Charles Potter and Guillaume Delprat of New South Wales.

* Thrust Bearing - the tilt-pad thrust bearing was invented by Anthony Mitchell in 1905. It is regarded as probably the single most important invention in the world of thrust technology.

* Moldflow software - Between 1970 and 1978 Colin Austin developed software that allowed computer simulation of the injection moulding process. This allowed designers of moulds to eliminate much of the lengthy and costly process of test mould designs by trial and error. Today Moldflow software is used by many leading manufacturing companies throughout the world particularly in the area of aircraft and automotive manufacture.

Medical

*Worlds first artificial heart developed by Australian, Dr. Victor Chang, the original design is still used today.

* Electronic Pacemaker - the heart pacemaker was developed at Sydney's Crown Street Women's Hospital in 1926

* In the 1930s Sister Elizabeth Kenny, a bush nurse working in country New South Wales and Queensland, developed a radically new and controversial method of treating children with polio. Her work went on to be internationally acclaimed and is regarded as providing important foundations to the discipline now known as physiotherapy.

* Penicillin - the life saving application of penicillin was developed by Howard Florey (see more information at Who Was the Inventor?). Penicillin has saved millions of lives world wide.

* In 1948 Dr John Cade, a Melbourne psychiatrist, discovered the use of lithium carbonate (usually just referred to as lithium) in the treatment of bipolar and similar disorders.

* Many firsts associated with in vitro fertilisation, including the birth of the first frozen embryo baby at the Queen Victoria Medical Centre in Melbourne1984.

* The Bionic Ear- the cochlear implant was invented by a team led by Professor Graeme Clark at The University of Melbourne and in 1978 the first person received the implant at the Royal Victorian Eye and Ear Hospital. (see more information at Who Was the Inventor?). The Bionic Ear has brought hearing to more than 50,000 people in over 80 countries.

* Aspro - Aspro was invented by the chemist George Nicholas as a form of Asprin in a tablet. The product was developed in Melbourne between 1915 and 1917, and George's brother Alfred Nicholas together with Henry Woolf Shmith were key to its manufacturing and marketing success By 1940 it had become the world's most widely used headache treatment. (see more information at Who Was the Inventor?)

* Begg Orthodontics - During the 1940s and 1950s Percy Begg of Adelaide developed a system of using relatively cheap and lightweight stainless steel braces on teeth to replace the expensive and painful systems which had been earlier used for 'training' and straightening teeth. Begg's technique soon spread throughout the world.

* Relenza - The world's first anti-flu drug was developed at several institutions in Victoria and released onto the market in 1996.

* Spray-on-skin for burns victims developed by Dr Fiona Wood and used to great effect after the 2002 Bali terrorist bombings.

* Discovery of the Helicobacter pylori bacterium which causes stomach ulcers and gastritis leading to its successful treatment. Barry Marshall and Robin Warren made this discovery in 1982 and received the Nobel Prize in 2005 for their work.

* The world's first vaccine to prevent cervical cancer with the potential to save hundreds of thousands of lives was developed by Professor Ian Frazer and others at the University of Queensland during the 1990s and eventually approved for use in USA in 2006. The vaccine does not act against cancer but against the virus that causes cervical cancer. It was released onto the market in 2006 under the name Gardacil.

Finance, commerce & business

* Pre-paid Postage - the first system of pre-paid postage was instituted in New South Wales in 1838

* Xerox Photocopying - the technology behind xerography was developed at The University of Sydney by Professor O U Vonwiller in 1907.

*Polymer Bank Notes - the Australian-invented technology used in producing polymer bank notes is now licensed in many countries throughout the world. In addition, Australia currently produces bank notes for export to 18 countries.

*Blast Glass (also known as Stop Shot). A ballistic and blast resistant glass system. Unlike conventional bullet proof glass it incorporates an air cavity to help absorb the shock wave of explosions. It almost certainly saved many lives in the terrorist bombing of the Australian Embassy in Djakarta in 2004. Invented by Peter Stephinson.

* Refrigeration - The first mechanical refrigeration plant was built in Melbourne by James Harrison in the 1850s.

Social Innovations

*The Vertically Integrated Migration Service - in the mid 19th century Caroline Chisholm together with her husband set up a private migration support system from the UK to Australia. This included recruitment and education of potential migrants in England and Ireland, preparation and education for their arrival in Australia, overseeing of the humanitarian and health conditions on the transport ships, a loans system to help families establish themselves, and employment and placement services when the migrants arrived in Australia all within a business model that made the operation sustainable. This remarkable achievement would still put to shame the services provided by many governments and wealthy NGOs throughout the world today.

* The Australian Ballot (Secret Ballot) - the system of casting one's political (or other) vote in a manner that is private and confidential on an anonymous ballot paper. Until the mid 19th century, voting for public office was publicly displayed which left the voter open to intimidation and/or bribery. A secret ballot system was invented by Henry Chapman of Melbourne in 1855 and within a short time of each other in 1856, both the colonies of South Australia and Victoria created a secret ballot system which became known around the world as the Australian Ballot. These Australian colonies were followed at considerable distance by New Zealand in 1870, the UK in 1872, Canada in 1874 and eventually the first presidential election in USA to use Australian Ballot was in 1892. Today the right to a secret ballot as a protection against coercion and intimidation is accepted as a cornerstone for any democratic state or institution.

* Australia has been one of the pioneers of democratic rights. Although Australia was not the first country to have votes for women, it was amongst the first (see this table from the Australian Federal Government web site) and certainly the first to grant women both the right to vote AND the right to sit (first at colony level in South Australia in 1894 then at national level in 1902). Votes for women were granted in South Australia in 1894, Western Australia in 1899, New South Wales in 1902 and Victoria in 1908.

* The sustained establishment of the Eight Hour Day (or 48 hour working week) was finally achieved in Melbourne in 1856 by a group of skilled tradesmen and small business operators led by James Galloway and James Stephens. This movement was a precursor to the union movement and the condition were later to expand to include both skilled or unskilled employees. Although the 8 hour days had been temporarily achieved in both New Zealand and America at earlier times, they were not sustained, so the Australian movement was seen as a particularly significant since this is where it 'took root'. The 6 day working week was later reduced to 5½ and by the 1950s had mainly changed to a 5 day week and the standard working week for most employees had reduced to 40 hours.

Arts and entertainment

* The multi-media entertainment Soldiers of the Cross produced by the Limelight Studio of the Salvation Army Melbourne is regarded as the forerunner of the feature film, and The Story of the Kelly Gang, made in 1906 is regarded as the first feature length film ever made. It ran for more than an hour. Australia can be regarded as the birthplace of the feature film since it continued to produce feature films for another five years before any other country created their own.

* The Free Music Machine - an electronic music machine invented by Percy Grainger that was the forerunner of modern synthesizers.

* The Fairlight CMI (computer music instrument) revolutionised electronic music by the way it manipulated sampled sounds. It remains the basis of most electronically produced music today. It was designed by Peter Vogel & Kim Ryrie in 1979.

* The Cineon Digital Film Workstation - a system that takes an image from film, digitally manipulates it and returns it to film - was developed by a group of engineers led by David Mann (whose name appear on the patent) in the Kodak laboratories in Victoria around 1990.

Sports

Not enough storage at TF to fill this in, however the Olympics say it all given GB has 3 times the population of Australia:

2004 Olympics

Australia 17G 16S 16B; GB 9 9 12

2000 Olympics

Australia 16 25 17 GB 11 10 7

1996 Olympics

Australia 9 9 23 GB and GET THIS 1 8 6 HA HA HA HA HA HA

and on it goes............................

Film and Music

Ditto sports

etc. etc. I'm bored now let's not change the subject and get back to those bunch of girls you call the English cricket team.

[StevieJR]

Question:

1/ What in all of history have the Irish or Scots EVER won, sport or otherwise?

2/ Name a famous Australian, inventor or otherwise?

I wait with interest to see list.

Hahahahahaha.

Im wayyyyy to drunk to even attempt to reply to such a half-witted reply to an honest post Or been able to read the reply but........For ONCE i totally agree with whatever Mike wrote lol

[MikeAussieGuy]

Question:

1/ What in all of history have the Irish or Scots EVER won, sport or otherwise?

2/ Name a famous Australian, inventor or otherwise?

I wait with interest to see list.

Hahahahahaha.

Im wayyyyy to drunk to even attempt to reply to such a half-witted reply to an honest post Or been able to read the reply but........For ONCE i totally agree with whatever Mike wrote lol

In that case Stevie allow me to reply for you, you can do the sports response :

Baird - John Logie (1888-1946) - Started the first TV station in the world.

Barrie - Sir J M (1860-1937) - Author of "Peter Pan" and "The Admirable Crichton".

Barbour - John (1316-1395) - Father of Scottish vernacular poetry with his epic "The Brus".

Bell - Alexander Graham (1847-1922) - Inventor of the telephone and involved in genetics and phonetics.

Brewster - Sir David (1781-1868) - Invented the kaleidoscope and the lenticular stereoscope.

Brodie - Deacon William (? - 1788) - A colourful and successful thief and inspiration for "Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde".

Bruce - James (1730-1794) - A giant of a man who found the source of the Nile in Abbysinia in 1770.

Buchan - John (1875-1940) - Governor General of Canada and an the author of "The Thirty-Nine Steps" etc.

Buchanan - George (1506-1582) - Moderator of the Church of Scotland in 1567.

Burns - Robert (1759-1796) - Scotland's most celebrated poet.

Burrell - Sir William (1861-1958) - A wealthy shipping magnate who gave his art collection to Glasgow.

Byron - George Gordon (Lord Byron) (1788-1824) - His Scottish childhood doubtless had an impact on the poet.

Campbell - Colin, 1st Baron Clyde (1792-1863) - His exploits at Balaclava gave rise to the "thin red line" legend.

Carlyle - Thomas (1795-1881) - An influential philosopher and historian of the Victorian age.

Carnegie - Andrew (1835-1919) - The railway, iron and steel tycoon who gave all his wealth away.

Chalmers - Thomas (1780-1847) - Led a third of the Church of Scotland ministers to form the Free Church.

Charles I - King (1600-1649) - Conflict with Parliament and the people led to Civil War - and his execution.

Charles II - King (1630-1685) - Charles II was determined to hold on to his throne - and succeeded.

Connery - Sir Sean (1930- ) - Regarded by some as the greatest president Scotland never had.

Connolly - Billy (1942 - ) - The shipyard worker who became an international actor and comedian.

Cranston - Kate (1850-1934) - An entrepreneur who encouraged the artistic talents of Charles Rennie Mackintosh.

Dale - David (1739-1806) - His mills in New Lanark were the largest cotton-spinning mills in Britain.

David I - King (1084-1153) - After 30 years at the English court he led many knights north when he became king.

David II - King (1324-1371) - Son of Robert the Bruce, King David II was a less successful monarch.

Dewar - Donald (1937-2000) - Architect of the new Scottish Parliament and its first First Minister.

Dewar - Sir James (1842-1923) - Inventor of the vacuum flask.

Douglas - David (1799-1834) - Botanist and explorer after whom the Douglas fir is named.

Doyle - Sir Arthur Conan (1859-1930) - Based his famous detective Sherlock Holmes on a forensic scientist.

Duncan - Adam, 1st Viscount Camperdown (1731-1804) - Defeated the Dutch navy at Camperdown.

Duncan - Rev Henry (1774-1846) - Founder of the mutual savings bank movement, restorer of the Ruthwell Cross.

Dunlop - John Boyd (1840-1921) - Established the Dunlop Rubber Company.

Ferguson - Sir Alex (1942 - ) - A football manager who has made two different teams European Champions.

Fleming - Sir Alexander (1881-1955) - Won the Nobel prize as discoverer of penicillin.

Forrest - George (1873-1932) - Brought back over 30,000 specimens of 10,000 plants from China.

Galgacus (Lived Around 80AD - Earliest recorded Scot, his Caledonii tribe were defeated by the Romans.

Geddes - Sir Patrick (1854-1932) - Chiefly known for his ideas on town planning.

Gladstone - William Ewart (1809-1898) - UK Prime Minister.

Glover - Sir Thomas Blake (1838 - 1911) - Responsible for the modern industrialisation of Japan.

Graham - James, 1st Marquess of Montrose (1612-50) - A brilliant soldier.

Graham - John, Viscount Dundee (1648-1689) - "Bonnie Dundee" came from Sir Walter Scott's song.

Grierson - John (1898-1972) - "Father of the documentary".

Haig - Earl of Bemersyde (1861-1928) - Commander-in-chief of British forces in France in the 1914-18 War.

Hall of the Heroes - Sixteen famous Scots highlighted in the William Wallace National Monument.

Hepburn - James (1536-1578) - 4th Earl of Bothwell, he abducted Mary Queen of Scots and married her.

Hill - David Octavius (1802 - 1870) - Produced some of the finest photographic portraits of the 19th century

Hogg - James (1770-1835) - The "Ettrick Shepherd" poet wrote often about his native Borders.

Hume - David (1711-1776) - Voted recently as the Scot who had made the greatest impact in the last 1,000 years.

Inglis - Elsie (1864-1917) - Winston Churchill wrote that Inglis and her nurses "would shine in history".

Jackson - Gordon (1923-1990) - Actor remembered for "Tunes of Glory" and "Upstairs and Downstairs".

James I - King (1394-1437) - Became a prisoner of the English King Henry IV at age 12.

James II - King (1430-1460) - A violent reign, full of murders and intrigue.

James III - King (1451-1488) - Reigned for 28 years but was overthrown by his son, James IV.

James IV - King (1473-1513) - As penance for the death of his father, he wore an iron chain for the rest of his life.

James V - King (1512 to 1542) - Died only days after the birth of his daughter, Mary Queen of Scots.

James VI - King (1566-1625) - The first king of both Scotland and England.

Jones - John Paul (1747-1792) - America's first naval hero.

Kelvin - Lord (1824-1907) - University at age 10, professor at 22, prolific inventor and publisher of scientific papers.

Kenneth mac Alpin (? - 858AD) - First King of Alba, uniting the Picts and Scots.

Kidd - Captain William (1645-1701) - The treasure of this famous pirate, hanged in 1701, has never been found.

Knox - John (1513-1572) - Leader of the Reformation of the church in Scotland.

Lauder - Sir Harry (1870-1950) - Entertainer and song writer whose caricatures influenced Scotland's image.

Liddell - Eric Henry (1902-1945) - A great athlete, he became the subject of the film "Chariots of Fire".

Lister - Lord Joseph (1827-1912) - Pioneer of modern surgery and antiseptics.

Liston - Robert (1794-1847) - A brilliant surgeon before the days of anaesthetics.

Livingstone - Dr David (1813-1873) - African missionary and explorer.

Lyon - Elizabeth Bowes (1900-2002) - Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother, the world's favourite gran.

McAdam - John Loudon (1756-1836) - Improved a tar-based road surface which became known as "tarmac".

Macbeth - King (1005- 1057) - Shakespeare based his tragedy on selected facts about this Scottish king.

MacDonald - Flora (1725-1790) - Her bravery helped save Bonnie Prince Charlie after the defeat at Culloden.

MacDonald - James Ramsay (1866-1937) - Became the first Labour Prime Minister in Britain in 1924.

Macdonald - Sir John A (1815-1891) - First Prime Minister of Canada in 1867-1873 and again from 1878 to 1891.

McGonagall - William (1830-1902) - Considered by many to be the "worst poet in the world".

MacGregor - Rob Roy (1671-1734) - The larger than life Highland Rogue.

Macintosh - Charles (1766-1843) - His invention of waterproof clothing added his name to the English dictionary.

McKellar - Kenneth (1927- ) - This popular tenor toured the world with Scottish songs.

Mackenzie - Sir Alexander (1764-1820) - Explored Canada and reached the Pacific Ocean in 1793.

Mackenzie - Sir Compton (1883-1972) - Author of books such as "Whisky Galore" and a staunch nationalist.

Maclean - Alistair (1922-1987) - Author of books such as "HMS Ulysses" and "The Guns of Navaronne".

Macquarrie - Lachlan (1762-1824) - "Father of Australia".

Malcolm 'Canmore' (1031-1093) - King Malcolm killed Macbeth and Macbeth's stepson, Lulach.

Mary - Queen of Scots (1542-1587) - Her life was full of tragedy, violence and love.

Maxwell - James Clerk (1831-1879) - Crerated a profound change in the conception of reality in physics.

Miller - Hugh (1802-1856) - A pioneer of the science of geology.

Muir - John (1834-1914) - One of the founders of United States Conservation.

Murdoch - William (1754-1839) - Inventor who is best known for his manufacture of gas lighting.

New Zealand and Scots - From the first recorded settler to Governor General and three Prime Ministers.

Oliphant - Carolina (Lady Nairne) (1766-1845) - Carolina Oliphant's songs are second only in popularity to Burns.

Paolozzi - Eduardo (1924 - 2005) - An international painter and sculptor, born in Leith.

Paterson - William (1658-1719) - Founder of the Bank of England and organiser of the ill-fated Darien Scheme.

Pinkerton - Allan (1819-1884) - Founded the Pinkerton Detective Agency in Chicago in 1850.

Raeburn - Sir Henry (1756-1823) - One of Scotland's most famous portrait painters.

Ramensky - Johnny (1905-1972) - Criminal and a war hero, this master of escape became a legendary folk hero.

Ramsay - Allan Snr 1686-1758 - Started as a wigmaker and became a poet.

Ramsay - Allan Jnr 1713-1784 - Accomplished portrait painter of the rich and famous.

Robert I - King (1274-1329) - Robert the Bruce achieved Scotland's freedom.

Robert II - King (1316-90) King in Waiting for 53 Years.

Robert III - King (1337-1406) - Described himself as "the worst of kings and the most miserable of men."

Rowling - J. K. (1965 - ) - The author of the "Harry Potter" books has made Scotland her adopted home.

St Columba (521 - 597) - His abbey on Iona has had an influence on Scotland for over 1400 years.

St Kentigern/St Mungo (520-612) - Patron Saint of Glasgow.

St Margaret (1046-1093) - Descended from the Saxon King Alfred, born in Hungary and wife of King Malcolm III.

Scientific Terms and Scots - Scots who gave their names to scientific terms.

Scott - Sir Walter (1771-1832) - Author of novels such as "Ivanhoe" who also "invented" modern tartans.

Simpson - Sir James Y (1811-1870) - Pioneer of the medical use of chloroform.

Scott - Michael (? - 1236?) - Philospher, translator, alchemist, astrologer and legendary "wizard".

Scotus - John Duns (1265-1308) - One of the greatest of medieval thinkers, he gave his name to the word "dunce".

Slessor - Mary (1848-1915) - Missionary in Calabar, West Africa who transformed the treatment of women there.

Smith - Adam (1723-1790) - Wrote the first "modern" book on economics, advocating free trade to increase wealth.

Smith - Madeleine (1835-1928) - Her murder trial in 1855 was the most sensational ever heard in a Scottish court.

Smollet - Tobias George (1721- 1771) - Regarded as a founder of the modern novel.

Spence - Catherine (1826-1910) - Australia's first female political candidate and a campaigner for women's suffrage.

Stein - Jock (1922 - 1985) - One of the most successful football managers ever produced in Scotland.

Stevenson - Robert Louis (1850-1894) - Author of such classics as "Treasure Island" and "Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde".

Stewart - Sir Jackie (1939 - ?) - Formula 1 Racing World Champion in 1969, 1971 and 1973.

Stuart - Prince Charles Edward (1720-1788) - Bonnie Prince Charlie and the Jacobite Uprising of 1745/46.

Tannahill - Robert (1774-1810) - Paisley's most famous poet wrote in a similar style to Burns.

Telford - Thomas (1757-1834) - The "Colossus of Roads" earned a reputation as the finest civil engineer of his day.

Thomas the Rhymer (c1210-c1294) - Legend says he lived with the Queen of the Fairies under the Eildon Hills.

Thomson - Alexander "Greek" (1817-1875) - Architect whose admiration for Grecian forms bcame a trademark.

Transport and the Scots - Scots inventors from railways to steamboats and two-stroke engines.

Tranter - Nigel (1909-2000) - A celebrated novelist who revived interest in Scottish history.

UK Run by Scots - From the Prime Minister to the leader of the Liberal Democrat Party.

United States First Governors - Nine of the first governors of the 13 states were of Scottish ancestry.

Wallace - Sir William (?- 1305) - The freedom fighter who inspired a nation to fight back.

Watson-Watt - Sir Robert (1892-1973) - Developed radar which helped to win the Battle of Britain in 1940.

Watt - James (1736-1819) - His development of the steam engine was the springboard for the Industrial Revolution.

William I - King ("The Lion") (1143-1214) - His heraldic lion rampant symbol gave him his nickname "The Lion".

Wilson - Alexander (1766-1813) - He published nine volumes of his illustrations of North American birds.

Wingate - Walter (1865-1918) - A schoolmaster whose poems have been taught to generations of schoolchildren.

Witherspoon - John (1723-1794) - Scottish minister urged the signing of the American Declaration of Independence.

[StevieJR]

lol Mike....That's what i was going to say but i couldnt spell Alexunder Grahum Beel...

Kinda kills his argument tho....enough time for me to study the greatest Aussie sporting moments since Sir Donald Bradman!!!

[Dave40]

The guy who invented thr Flight Black Box recorder was an Australian

Dave Warren, (sorry mike if you already put this one in), was his name.

[MikeAussieGuy]

'Clutching at straws' springs to mind,

Actually I think you've misread the question, :roll:

I don't have time to read all that now, it is Friday night afterall,

I'll be back,

I still don't think you have answered anything convinceinly, but I give credit if credit's due.

Mate take the heat for asking the questions you asked. What do you mean we read the questions incorrectly they are pretty straight forward questions you asked :

1/ What in all of history have the Irish or Scots EVER won, sport or otherwise?

2/ Name a famous Australian, inventor or otherwise?

Bloody misread what, either admit you made a wanker of yourself by asking them in the first place or you have absolutely no idea of English, which one is it?

As for giving credit when it's due, for what, what has this got to do with anything? Same as clutching at straws, whose clutching at straws?? You asked 2 questions in a Forum and they got answered.

[MikeAussieGuy]

Now let's back to the One Dayer's shall we. The Kiwis play the Aussies today and we can expect some fireworks given the Kiwis hardly love the Aussies and would like nothing more than to stick it up us and bring us back to earth. May not be a bad thing actually.

Let's hope the POMS get it together towards the back end of their tour and make a contest of it.

[Kaitai]

Hopefully the Kiwis will have lifted their game a little after their performance against Sri Lanka. Kind of sad to see Pietersen out of the series as well. The Pom's are really going to miss him I think...

[Dave40]

So why are you lot so jubilant

Maybe you were beaten by a better team and I don't think you could call Freddie Flintoff, a girl, England had a few injuries but they came out here underprepared and still looking at their obe's on the mantel piece I guess the 2005 ashes bandwagon would be pretty light on now for people, a true supporter doesn't jump off so soon!!!!!!