BangkokBilly Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 Ta. (Any news on Bobby Moore?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stramash Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 Ta.(Any news on Bobby Moore?) ??? Did Bobby Moore deny the holocaust?? :twisted: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyboy Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 Ta.(Any news on Bobby Moore?) ??? Did Bobby Moore deny the holocaust?? :twisted: No, I think that was Nobby Stiles... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damnam1 Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 Ta.(Any news on Bobby Moore?) ??? Did Bobby Moore deny the holocaust?? :twisted: No, I think that was Nobby Stiles... it should have been Gottfried Dienst denying the 1966 third goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BangkokBilly Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 Wahhahaaahaaaa.... splurt How does one remove coffee from a lap top keyboard / screen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stramash Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 Wahhahaaahaaaa.... splurtHow does one remove coffee from a lap top keyboard / screen? Bobby Moore's hair perhaps?? :twisted: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loburt Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 You would be surprised how many people here in Thailand don't know or fully understand the Hitler's crimes. I've met more than a few who think he is known for "strong leadership." And then there are those shops at Chatuchak selling Nazi paraphenalia... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damnam1 Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 ..and there are lots of people not understanding why there is a legal nazi party in the USA and why the german swastika can be legally worn and displayed there. I have encountered numerous Thai people who were seriously fascinated by Hitler and his politics. So I did with people in Egypt, Morocco, South America etc.. It is likewise annoying if somebody greets you with raised right arm intending to provoce just as somebody not knowing much about history but just glorifying that period of time. The way the Nazis gained the power was democratic at first glance and the sheer and utter power of their appearance, uniforms and their way of speaking was fascinating. But to look behind the curtains of history will takes you decades to comprehend the third reich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meechai Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 You would be surprised how many people here in Thailand don't know or fully understand the Hitler's crimes. I've met more than a few who think he is known for "strong leadership." And then there are those shops at Chatuchak selling Nazi paraphenalia... In one trip to LOS I got shocked when I saw a 14yo dark-skin thai girl (the one you pay to use the toilets in Bangla Road, Patong) wearing a t-shirt with the nazi eagle, the swastika and the word "nazi" repeatedly around it. I tried to explain her the non-sense of a thai person wearing the symbols of the aryan syperiority and racist stuff. Of course she didn't understand a word, but with the help of another passing-by kid, I managed to let her know what was this about (more or less). She just said that she was sorry and that she had no idea about that, and she didn't wear that shirt more (as far as I know). In Songkram I saw also people selling Hitler and Bin Laden masks. I think most part of the people don't really know the meaning of these things or who were these people, like we probably wouldn't know who were the worst butchers/dictators in asian's history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meechai Posted June 12, 2008 Report Share Posted June 12, 2008 I think Thai who wears a Nazi t-shirt in Thailand think of it as fashion. I never knew any Thai who fascinated in Nazism. I met a Thai woman (middle class) who asked me ?What is Jew?? when I told her my late husband was a Jewish. There is a group in Denmark calls "Danmarks Nationalsocialistiske Bevaegelse" (they have a website but I don?t want to post a link here so please go google if you want to see it). It?s a neo-nazi group. The members wear Swastika logo and some of them shaved their heads. For some reasons I scared of them. I agree with you. But only one thing to point out: not all the shaved heads (skinheads) are nazi or racist people. There are a lot of them who have the opposite ideology: anti-fascist/anti-nazi and anti-racist ideals. Sometimes it can be difficult to difference them because they have the same clothing style, but most part of the times they can be identified by their t-shirts, logos, etc. But in case of doubt, better cross the street. :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loburt Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 I think Thai who wears a Nazi t-shirt in Thailand think of it as fashion. I never knew any Thai who fascinated in Nazism. I met a Thai woman (middle class) who asked me ?What is Jew?? when I told her my late husband was a Jewish. I know you are explaining and not excusing, but I need to say this anyway: I realize that many, but not all Thais who wear or display Nazi or Hitler symbols may not know the entire meaning, nonetheless, there is still a bit of hypocrisy in excusing it for that reason. Whenever some advertising company, bar, restaurant or whatever in the US or Europe runs and ad or a display in which they used symbols of the Buddhism or the Thai monarchy in an inappropriate or offensive way, the Thai government immediately springs into action. They issue protests and demand the ads are withdrawn and the offenders issue apologies, which are usually forthcoming. We don't know what it means, or it's fashion or it's just for fun, are not considered acceptable responses by Thais when their cultural sensitivities or taboos are violated. If Thais want their cultural sensitivities respected, then they have to give the same to others. Nazi or Hitler symbols are not just hurtful to Jews, but to other minorities the Nazis murdered and to the families of soldiers and others from many countries who died fighting them. Several years ago a reporter from The Nation did a story about one of the shops in Chatuchak selling all this Nazi stuff. The reporter explained to the shop owner its meaning. He replied, oh well I didn't know. Mai pen rai. Well, now he knows. And he's still there selling this crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigKus Posted June 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 In Thailand, We also have Che Guevara's poster, printed T-shirt everywhere, especially 20 -30 years ago. Nowaday, Che's poster become Truck driver's symbol by, Im not sure that, even one of those truck drivers know who is the guy. We dont have him in school, but I think there have in University. I, myself, actually been led to him by his poster / printed on T-shirt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loburt Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Yes, the Che images are one of the oddest things about Thailand, considering his goal was to foment communist revolutions across several countries, and that 20 - 30 years ago anti-communism was extremely strong in Thailand. You could be jailed without charges for years in Thailand merely on suspicion of being a communist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigKus Posted June 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Blame his looks and damn cool ! 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiaranM Posted June 13, 2008 Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 thanks, fujico.if there is no explanation, then i'm against it. u think there r ppl who might go to Tussauds and be dumb enough to need an explanation as to who and what Hitler was ...... although on reflection u may have a point !!! Maybe an Administrator of a certain Thai school who thought the capital of Germany is Bonn... or the average person in Thailand (who probably would have trouble finding Germany on a map, let alone knowing anyone who ever lived there)... :wink: Bonn was the capital of West Germany until German re-unification !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigKus Posted June 13, 2008 Author Report Share Posted June 13, 2008 Madame Tusso Wax Museum will be open soon in Berlin, Germany. What do you think if you see Adolf Hitler's wax figure in the museum amongst Albert Einstein, Helmut Kohl , Boris Becker... Berlin is just about some hours driving from where I live I was there many times but I will never visit the museum, Sis. I don't have need to see Hitler's wax figure. My late husband's grandparents were killed because of the man. His mother (RIP) escaped from Poland to Russia when she was 13 years old. The old lady cried when she told me her story. It hurt me badly. Many Thais seem to know very little about what happened there. From the Newspaper i read out ( Matichon Sunday Issue 8 June) The Museum hasn't been open. Hitler's wax figure become the topic for discussion at the moment that should or shouldn't has it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_bkk Posted July 5, 2008 Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 Today the wax museum opened. Visitors are not allowed to touch or take a photo of hitler. The second (!) visitor today touched the 200,000 Euro figure and took its head off screaming "no more war" lol. 2 security guards couldn't stop him. Police took the guy into custody but released him already, he is now facing some minor charges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigKus Posted July 5, 2008 Author Report Share Posted July 5, 2008 Man rips head from Hitler wax figure in Berlin http://news.uk.msn.com/Article.aspx?cp-documentid=8803433 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Please sign in to comment
You will be able to leave a comment after signing in
Sign In Now