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ANOTHER do gooder


Stu_thailand

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I read with no surprise whatsoever, that the UK's finance minister, has said how terrible the hanging of Saddam was. I quote: "Now that we know the full picture of what happened, we can sum this up as a deplorable set of events."He went on..."Even those people, unlike me, who are in favour of capital punishment found this completely unacceptable"So, now we need to make a hanging more nice for the evil bastards who commit the atrocities. What shall we do...put some sheeps fleece around the noose to make it more comfortable? Carpet the doors of the gallows to make standing there a more comfortable experience?I just CANNOT believe, OR accpet the attitudes of people who, at every opportunity take time to protect the 'Human Rights' of People such as Saddam. He killed THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS of people. Not for any reason, just because it took his fancy. If everyone, like him was taken away from this world, it would be a whole better place. At the risk of not being PC, and starting yet another TF war, they should have fed him to the families of the people he took away, and allowed them to deal with it iin their own way.What goes around, comes around. It did, and good riddance. 

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I read with no surprise whatsoever, that the UK's finance minister, has said how terrible the hanging of Saddam was. I quote: "Now that we know the full picture of what happened, we can sum this up as a deplorable set of events."He went on..."Even those people, unlike me, who are in favour of capital punishment found this completely unacceptable"So, now we need to make a hanging more nice for the evil bastards who commit the atrocities. What shall we do...put some sheeps fleece around the noose to make it more comfortable? Carpet the doors of the gallows to make standing there a more comfortable experience?I just CANNOT believe, OR accpet the attitudes of people who, at every opportunity take time to protect the 'Human Rights' of People such as Saddam. He killed THOUSANDS UPON THOUSANDS of people. Not for any reason, just because it took his fancy. If everyone, like him was taken away from this world, it would be a whole better place. At the risk of not being PC, and starting yet another TF war, they should have fed him to the families of the people he took away, and allowed them to deal with it iin their own way.What goes around, comes around. It did, and good riddance. 

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Ditto Stu, Cobra and Kai, I hated the bastard, he tortured hundreds of thousands and gassed hundreds of thousands more, men, women and children who died in excruciating pain, and some arse gets upset he got taunted! When he was defending Saddam did he defend the innocent he killed to?

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Totally agree with the above. His treatment was remarkably humane compared with what he meted out. Some reflections from my students:

A: "I am so happy. He killed my father and his 9 brothers in Halabja. Now I feel safe"

B: " He will go to paradise. There is no proof that he did anything wrong. It was all lies"

Student B worries me more than somewhat!

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Hey what about Viet Nam.? Plenty others you could pick on for hanging as well that don't have oil?

Who are the evil bastards you talk about.?Who invades another country and for what?

Remember Ferdinand Marcos,oh good old USA .

Torture if you want to be a do gooder you have to be consistent with your thoughts,not one sided,Sadam was a dictator just like the next regime in Iraq will end up as soon as the invasion forces move out.

Bad subject what about David Hicks,hasn't even been charged? torture? yes!

Who are the bad guys? and who are the good guys?

Who's money is supporting all this bullshit in Iraq?

Stu all dictators work on a regime of absolute power and unfortunately there should be a lot of them put out of there miseries. All Im saying the super powers need to be consistent about hanging people and look at the idiots that decide to support a country one minute and invade the next killing more people than the dictator killed.

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HUMAN RIGHTS = rights that apply to everyone, even to mass murderers.

Yes, Saddam commited horrible atrocities ,but the way that his execution was carried out smacked of revenge rather than justice, and unfortunately will probably do nothing to decrease the sectarian tensions that are killing dozens of innocent men, women, and children each day.

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The purpose of executing him was not to decrease sectarian tensions, it was to deliver justice, and sometimes the outcome of justice is in effect revenge.

His human rights were respected. He had a trial that was monitored by the entire world. The evidence against him was clear. Revenge would have been denying him a trial, torturing him and then executing him in the slowest and most painful manner possible - just as he did to those who opposed him.

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i think what ppl r criticizing was the taunting of sadaam before he was executed. and yes he was a cruel and evil man, but the forces who invaded iraq were supposed to be an improvement on him and his regime ... as was supposed to be the new iraqi government. however at present neither would appear to be much of an improvement.

wonder when (OR IF) we'll see blair and bush on TV stepping onto the gallows for THEIR crimes against humanity !!!

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oh, he was taunted. oh, poor little baby.

after he had his soldiers torture and murder hundreds of thousands, after he sent boys off to be slaughtered fighting Iran, a couple of people chanted "Muqtada, Muqtada" as he was on the gallows.

what a crime against humanity. what a horrible end. my heart bleeds for the poor baby.

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I don't like violence, but agree with violence as a last resort, and only if required, but in cases of people like him, I would like to see them tortured.

Fair is fair.

You should get what you give.

His hanging was too humane for me.

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I personally have no sympathy for the man whatsoever............ but I have noticed that everyone was upset by the taunting, except him!! He didnt seem too concerned and was pretty calm about the whole affair.

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Posted by Loburt [ 7 January 2007 | 7:35PM ]

oh, he was taunted. oh, poor little baby.

after he had his soldiers torture and murder hundreds of thousands, after he sent boys off to be slaughtered fighting Iran, a couple of people chanted "Muqtada, Muqtada" as he was on the gallows.

what a crime against humanity. what a horrible end. my heart bleeds for the poor baby. <<<

either u didn't understand the point i was making or u just ignored it. i'm not a fan of the death penalty and the way it was carried out was gruesome and repugnant. yes sadaam was evil and in some ppl's eyes deserved to die for his crimes. but the way he was executed brought the current regime down to the same level as his, surely not the image they want to portray. something the iraqi government itself recognises.

and as for murder and torture it is now a daily occurance in iraq carried out by "security forces", coalition forces, militia and insurgents .... a huge leap forward for this liberated country !!

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No Ciaran, you are absolutely wrong.

If you can't see the difference between people chanting a name when someone is on the gallows,as opposed to the rape, electric shocks, beatings and other means of torture inflicted by Saddam's people on their prisoners, then you really need to get your head examined. They are not on the same level.

Not even close.

The key question about the fact that there were people chanting Muqtada at Saddam's execution is, how did supporters of a radical Shiite cleric who is trying to topple the current Iraqi goverment become part of the government's capital punishment team. It shows how deeply these people have infiltrated the government and so how hopeless the situation is.

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Ciaran, I must also disagree with y9our point. It has NOT brought the current government down to the same level at all. When Saddam was doing the killing, he was doing it for pleasure. The current government did it to bring both justice, and an end to a very brutal era of history.

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OK, so what else could they do with him then? Put him in prison? Yeah, GREAT idea. He was 69. Guarantee, 3 years down the line, his health would start going down hill, and then ANOTHER do gooder, would complain that prison lfe was not right for a Man in such ill health, and he would get transfered to a nice comfortable nursing home. Or, OR here is an even better idea...let the British government bring him to the UK, give him a house, money, and let him live out his time there. I mean, they do it for everyone else who hates Westerners, why not him? And then, yea, THEN, he could sue the British Government for loss of earnings as president.

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Posted by Loburt [ 7 January 2007 | 9:44PM ]

No Ciaran, you are absolutely wrong.

If you can't see the difference between people chanting a name when someone is on the gallows,as opposed to the rape, electric shocks, beatings and other means of torture inflicted by Saddam's people on their prisoners, then you really need to get your head examined. They are not on the same level. <<

excuse me ... check out what is happening in iraq on a daily basis ... ppl being tortured and executed on a daily basis by militia either run by or protected by the current regime.and lets not forget the torture camps run by the CIA throughout eastern europe !! some f**king improvement !!!

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Ciaran I believe you are correct,what about this prison in Cuba they are holding even an Australian in? what about the other guy they realeased with scares alover his body?

Talk of torture,talk of justice? David Hicks has been there for years and hasn't had a charge laid yet!

Thats good old American Justice,right or wrong every one deserves a trial,just as Sadam did.

Lets just get out of Iraq and see how brutal its going to get with and Iran backed government.

There was no particular reason other than oil coalition forces went into Iraq.

Sadam was even backed by USA a few years earlier,do you really think they went in there to save a few bodies?

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