khun_lung Posted September 21, 2005 Report Share Posted September 21, 2005 Most of my Thai friends from time to time will visit a "mor doo", or "fortune teller" to tell them what lies ahead in their future. And I have to say that a high percentage, maybe 50%, believe what they say! So it it true, or is it false? I haven't been to see a Thai mor doo for a long time, maybe 10 years. At the time, after answering many questions, he said that I would become a papasan (manager of a ***** house) or a liquor salesman. Well, he was wrong. I am neither! So what do you think? Are mor doo fakers or do you think that they really have the ability to look into your future? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiCKeDBiRD Posted September 21, 2005 Report Share Posted September 21, 2005 No idea.. BUT I am a Big Fan .... really :shock: ....... well all of my my GF-s they just love going... I have to go with the flow. :oops: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbie36 Posted September 21, 2005 Report Share Posted September 21, 2005 So what do you think? Are mor doo fakers or do you think that they really have the ability to look into your future? Are you serious? If someone could really tell the future they wouldnt have to be a 'mor doo'. They would have at least one nobel prize and certainly wouldnt have to work for a living. I am a 'mor dtao' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagle Posted September 21, 2005 Report Share Posted September 21, 2005 I have somefriends who believe btu even there predictions can change with free will so its just good guess work most of the time. I wouldn;t live my life according to that but some do ................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiCKeDBiRD Posted September 21, 2005 Report Share Posted September 21, 2005 I am a 'mor dtao' Dtao Hai Noi Si .... Yak Roo... Chivit Ja Pen Ngai... Ja Mee Fan Mai 8) :shock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuTieGirL Posted September 21, 2005 Report Share Posted September 21, 2005 I don't believe in fortune teller. In my whole life, I went to a fortune teller twice. Both of the time, it wasn't my idea to go. The first time, my friend was asked me to go with her. Since I already wait for so long, so I listened to what the fortune teller have to say. The second time, my mom took me. But I got to admit that a few things they say are true. Maybe...because of the generality of what they say (it could apply to everyone). So if you want to know that it's true or not, try to ask SPECIFIC questions. Don't fully believe in it. And asking questions about relationship (if it will last) is a trick. Because if the fortune teller say he's not your soulmate then you'll be doubting if you should continue your relationship or not. And you won't be giving 100% to the relationship and THAT would end your relationship. :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbie36 Posted September 21, 2005 Report Share Posted September 21, 2005 I am a mor dtao. 'Looking at your hand I can tell much about you and the world. First, you may not fully comprehend this but there are actually an unbelievable number of stupid and gullible people in the world who will believe virtually anything. As for you, it seems pretty certain that you will be ripped off by someone pretty soon. This someone might not be too smart or intelligent but he does appear to be a little more smarter and intelligent than you. If you have any equally stupid friends you will get a lot of luck if you send them to see me too. Here is my bill - I only accept cash. I know you have a credit card but I have feeling that the bank will take it away pretty soon.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KikuHana Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 Everything in the universe always has a scientific explanation. Because we couldn't prove it now, doesn't mean it did not exist. Anyway Thai people has a saying, 'don't belief, don't blaspheme' (mai cheu ya lop loo). What is life, what is destiny, what is human behavior? All these are complex questions with complex answers, no sceintific study has yet been fully explain for this type of questions. So we have such subject like philosophy, psychology and so forth. There are many forms of fortune telling, by pure psychic (clairvoyance) or by studying the ART of prediction and projection. It is still an Art, as in any art, the people who perform it matters greatly. That's why with the same musical instrument and musical notes, we hav great musician such as Mozart or your friendly neighbourhood street player. Also the Art of fortune-telling, diverse greatly too, we have astrology, palmistry, tarot card, tea reading etc. Each has their own unique charecteristic as well. Scientific studies by ways of satistical analysis have shown that, people who is born in positive or negative Astrological sign do behave positively and negatively in real life. However, these are just the average behavior, there are more factors than that. It is like saying, all thai people have black hair. Most of us do, but some don't, but the percentage is small. So fortune-telling is a very fine art. If U can't find a good fortune teller, than is better not to see one. Fortune telling will definately be a science subject in the future. In this universe, everything has a cause and effect. Why U look like this and why things happen like that. It is a study of nature and human charecteristic. Can the star really influnce who U are? Then let me ask U if we are born in a vacume? No, we are all born under the influence of our surrounding. The immediate surronding is your parents and the place that U are living. The greater surrounding is U in the Solar System, U in the Milky Way, U in the Universe. All your body parts, at one time or another belongs to other planets, or the stars. The moon causes tides in the sea, and our body is 80% water? don't U think that the gravitational force of the Moon, that causes sea tides, doesn't affect Us at all? See, this is just basic common sense. Can we predict the future? Why not, financial analysis can predict, maketing analysis can predict, why not fortune teller? We just have to know what to look for,if we can compile up all the major variables in the equation and do a fine statistical analysis. I am positive we can come up with a science. Your skin is white, ok u are caucasian, ok U are yellow, must be asian, U have these line in your palm, U should be rich, or U hav these star combinations in your starchart U should be handsome. The way fortune teller can tell your future is by studying old satistics. However, the variables in a star chart or in a palm reading is so vast, is like u can have millions of combination for the lottery number. Just look at the human DNA, and the people on this planet, we look similiar but we have our differences. So we still have a very long way to go before, we can map and make statistic all the lines of our palm, or check out all the star in the sky for our Astrology. Meanwhile, as I have said, there are people who is psychic and they can see better than ordinary fortune-teller. Way to see if the fortune teller is good or bad. Simple test can be done. First let the fortune teller tell U what U are like in the past, see how accurate he is, then if he is 'catching fish in a muddle pond', forget it. If he couldn't see the past, which is already fix, how can he predicts the future, which is still not absolute? But remember, what U think is what U are, as I call it, Do the Karma Thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 kikuhana, with all due respect, you assert that fortune telling will definitely be a science subject in the future, but you demonstrate a pretty substantial ignorance of what constitutes a "science subject." also i'd *love* to see those "scientific studies by way of statistical analysis" that confirm the predictive capacity of astrology. please provide a link or two. thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbie36 Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 Can we predict the future? Why not, financial analysis can predict, maketing analysis can predict, why not fortune teller? We just have to know what to look for,if we can compile up all the major variables in the equation and do a fine statistical analysis. I am positive we can come up with a science. Gee someone with beliefs even more moronic than Scartfargus. Why not study a bit of science before talking crap? (1) Anyone who knows anything about science knows that very few variables can result in an almost infinite number of possibilities. For instance each human cell has only 23 pairs of chromosomes and yet no human has been born exactly the same as another one. (2) It is no good just compiling the 'major' variables to predict the future because the tiniest variable can have an astronomical impact on the end result. Lets see, if those pesky terrorists alarm had not gone off on the morning of September 11th, they would have missed their flight into the World Trade Center and then as a result of that Bush wouldnt have invaded Iraq. And who would predict that someone intelligent enough to speak could also be dumb enough to have such stupid beliefs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiCKeDBiRD Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 I personally do NOT believe in The fortune Teller... All of my Girl-friends like to go.... so, they take me. I think .... Most of ppl who go to the fortune teller are women <90% .. I guess>. MOst of women who go to the fortune teller are those who have a broken-heart... or those who are about to lose someone they love... or something like that.. I think it has something to do with... ...Wanting to hear something that they want to hear.... as Truth hurts. < if you know what I mean....> I think ... sometimes ppl are lost and they dont have the place to go.... So they pay someone to say something that they want to hear... I think for them going to the fortune teller .... its kind of like going to the shrink. I dont know.... I dont think much these days... really. :shock: -WB- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
friends Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 50/50 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shades Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 Gee someone with beliefs even more moronic than Scartfargus. Why not study a bit of science before talking crap? are the beliefs more moronic because they aren't your own?? (1) Anyone who knows anything about science knows that very few variables can result in an almost infinite number of possibilities. For instance each human cell has only 23 pairs of chromosomes and yet no human has been born exactly the same as another one. your understanding of science seems quite limited itself, as a few determined no. of variables can only result in a finite number of possibilites. its the undetermined variables that determine the spectrum of possiblities you alude to. the generalisation regarding chromoses assumes that this is the only contributor to human developemnt where in fact its just our understanding so far. science has gone a way but still has limitatiions. (2) It is no good just compiling the 'major' variables to predict the future because the tiniest variable can have an astronomical impact on the end result. now this statement is true however you are looking at the extreme case. as in most forecasting/prediction the higher the level that you look at something the less the minor variables matter so in fact major varaiables are all you need to predict just not predict someones life as thats too micro.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbie36 Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 Shades.... whatever.... (Incidentally you can tell me how many possibilities you get from 23 pairs of chromasomes - of course it is a finite number - but I guarantee that the finite number is greater than the 6 billion people that are on this earth today. I dont have a calculator.) Life is unpredictable. We all know that even if some people dont admit it. (**** me who would have predicted that Bush would invade Iraq as revenge for 9/11?) Let's keep this very simple. People are fond of saying that if fortune tellers could really tell the future, they would win the lottery every week. More seriously they could also win a Nobel Prize for discovering fundamental physical forces hitherto unknown to science. Either way, why are they wasting their talents doing party tricks for Bt200 a throw? PS. I am sure that I have some moronic beliefs and I am happy if people point them out when they see them - meanwhile if other people are happy to publish crap on the internet, I hope you dont mind if I point it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malky Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 Complete crap!!!! Superstitious and insecure people will always fall prey to the fortune teller. The fortune teller can spot these people a mile off and they know exactly how to get these people to believe all their mumbo jumbo. I've read stories of fortune tellers scamming thousands of dollars from their clients by feeding them some bogus story of impending disaster. Amazingly the fortune teller can prevent this disaster if their bank account is filled with money. :shock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shades Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 R36.. i dont take this site too seriously so feel free to post as you will. as for peoples belief and superstitions.. well you won't change them through ridicule so just wanted to highlight the point.. now too cloud the issue on fortune telling.. if you were to predict that a drug addict was going to lead a hopless life leading to an untimely death would that make you a fortune teller..and if so then doesnt fortune telling work.. you only need the obvious subjects mind you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbie36 Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 R36.. i dont take this site too seriously so feel free to post as you will.as for peoples belief and superstitions.. well you won't change them through ridicule so just wanted to highlight the point.. I agree that it is almost impossible to change someone's 'belief system'. However I like to believe that you can influence people who are undecided by pointing out when someone's belief system is flawed. if you were to predict that a drug addict was going to lead a hopless life leading to an untimely death would that make you a fortune teller..and if so then doesnt fortune telling work.. you only need the obvious subjects mind you. Actually it needs a friend to point out that a 'drug addict' is a drug addict and what the consequences will be. A fortune teller is more likely to instill in someone the belief that their fate is already predetermined and that there is nothing they can do about it. We create our own future, our own heaven and hell on this earth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CuTieGirL Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 Thinking about who would go to see the fortune teller....that person is curious or somehow desperate......most likely the reason is, they are not completely happy with their life. Now that's the key for Moh Doo to start guessing. What would be the reasons that make this person unhappy? Then by characteristics and guessing experience, it should comes down to a couple criterias : relationship, family, work, love, friends, money. With practice and attention to details......anyone with good guessing sense could be Mor Doo easily... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SexGoddess Posted September 22, 2005 Report Share Posted September 22, 2005 Can we predict the future? Why not, financial analysis can predict, maketing analysis can predict, why not fortune teller? We just have to know what to look for,if we can compile up all the major variables in the equation and do a fine statistical analysis. I am positive we can come up with a science. Gee someone with beliefs even more moronic than Scartfargus. Why not study a bit of science before talking crap? (1) Anyone who knows anything about science knows that very few variables can result in an almost infinite number of possibilities. For instance each human cell has only 23 pairs of chromosomes and yet no human has been born exactly the same as another one. (2) It is no good just compiling the 'major' variables to predict the future because the tiniest variable can have an astronomical impact on the end result. Lets see, if those pesky terrorists alarm had not gone off on the morning of September 11th, they would have missed their flight into the World Trade Center and then as a result of that Bush wouldnt have invaded Iraq. And who would predict that someone intelligent enough to speak could also be dumb enough to have such stupid beliefs? I must admit for the normal people, the idea of fortune-telling being a science seem far fetch. However, recently an experiment was published in a US scholarly journal, Statistical Science, a review journal of the Institute of Mathematical Statistics (vol. 9, no. 3), in August 1994, p429-438. 'It has been noted that when the Book of Genesis(the original Hebrew Text) is written as two-dimension arrays, equdistant letter sequences spelling words with related meanings often appear in close proximity. Quantitative tools for measuring this phenomenon are developed. Randomization analysis shows that the effect is significant at the level of 0.00002'(quote) The experiment consisted of 34 names taken from the Encyclopedia of Great Men in Israel. (contemporary men) The result is to see if their date of death or birth is written in 'close proximity' for all of them. (keep in mind that Genesis,the hebrew text, was written at least a thousand years ago, the oldest survival text being the Dead Sea Scroll ) The experiment concluded that the Book of Genesis, foretold of 34 contemporary men, with their names and their birth or death, is not due to chance. My own experiment with the 'bible code' computer programme, an example concerned the historical 2000 US presidential election. I sent an email, to my brother in the states, a few months before the election that W. Bush will surely win. 1. What I did was I try searching for the encoded word for "President Al Gore" in the 'bible code' programme, the result was that I could not find any encoded for that term at all. 2. On the other hand, I try searching for" President W. Bush", it was encoded. 3. Statistically, the word "president Al Gore" in Hebrew should appear more often then that of "president W.Bush". As the hebrew letter use for "president Al Gore" is shorter and more often in use. Surprsingly none appear. And the statistical result for the term "president Al Gore" not appearing in the bible code, is pretty significant. 4.At the time, with the projected outcome in hand, I am very positive that W.Bush will definately win the election. However, I was surprise at the tied, and doubted if I make the right prediction with the Bible Code Programme. I rechecked my findings, again only to confirmed that "W. Bush" is the new President. In fact, the result held true, W.Bush won the 2000 US Presidential Election. Finally, this example of using the Bible (Bible Code Programme) as the tool for fortune-telling, with significant scientific statistical results, ensured that fortune telling is not just hocus-pocus anymore. Though, we are still in the infancy stage of scientific fortune-telling. The publication on the subject of fortune-telling from a highly regarded scholastic science journal, demostrated that fortune-telling is not 'crap', but has a 'high' potential as of becomming a science subject in the future. (ps. back in the University, I learned about 'EDUCATED PEOPLE' doing good debates without name calling. ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiCKeDBiRD Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 (ps. back in the University, I learned about 'EDUCATED PEOPLE' doing good debates without name calling. ) :shock: ...... jing jing lor ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsianBarbie Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 (ps. back in the University, I learned about 'EDUCATED PEOPLE' doing good debates without name calling. ) :shock: ...... jing jing lor ? Pood len nah! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiCKeDBiRD Posted September 23, 2005 Report Share Posted September 23, 2005 (ps. back in the University, I learned about 'EDUCATED PEOPLE' doing good debates without name calling. ) :shock: ...... jing jing lor ? Pood len nah! Meaw 9 cheevit... lor ? :shock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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