frankenburner2 Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 there's no conspiracy. no secret. no hidden agenda..... I guess the buffalo stories are urban legends? *Everyone* has a hidden agenda - some people just have nicer ones than others. the buffalo stories are real....but then again...so is santa clause ...neither has anything do with western men being attracted to asian women. what's "your" hidden agenda? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 why why why is this question asked again and again and again. Is it not enough to simply say that "western men are attracted to asian women"? they ask because they can. .but we don't get forum after forum begging for some kind of philisophical reason for that liking! then maybe we should, it would be about as productive as anything else we have forum after forum about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankenburner2 Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 why why why is this question asked again and again and again. Is it not enough to simply say that "western men are attracted to asian women"? they ask because they can. .but we don't get forum after forum begging for some kind of philisophical reason for that liking! then maybe we should, it would be about as productive as anything else we have forum after forum about. fair enough..... so....why DO people like pizza? why do some like all meats and other like veggies only? regular cheese or non-fat? deep dish or pan? and if you don't like pizza, what's your problem? discuss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 I agree. I don't buy the notion that attractiveness is a cultural or media generated phenonmenon. I think its biological. Some people are uncomfortable acknowledging this I think. it is mostly biological. there is a social component, and that social component can be influence by the media. it is as naive to think that any trait is 100 percent genetic as it is to think any trait is 100 percent cultural. It reminds me of those arguments they used to have in the US about whether African Americans were generally better athletes than whites genetically or whether it was cultural. it is both genetic and cultural. to be good at any sport you have to have talent. and you have to practice and learn. a lot. A stupid debate as anyone who has ever played playground hoops can attest. How many 5'8" black guys do you have to see dunk a basketball to get that?) and to get that there's a cultural component, go to a white neighborhood in new york and then go to harlem or brooklyn. see who is playing. how many 5'8" black guys do you have to see who suck at basketball but still follow it closely to get that? Anyway, a few years ago after I had dated only asians for a couple of years I was kind of down on myself about that. Then I met a white woman at a party. Immediate attraction. "Cool!" I thought. "No fetishes here. Phew." Well I found out after the party that she was actually half Japanese. To me this was the perfect "control experiment" because in my mind she was caucasian so if I was attracted to Asian women for cultural reasons I would not have been so attracted to her. my personal history is that while i dated a relatively high number of asian (specifically, chinese) women in new york, i wasn't chasing them more than other ethnicities, they were just the ones who said "yes." so personally i am not more attracted to chinese girls, just for some reason (possibly only strange coincidence) the girls with the most interest in me have been chinese. (even more strangely my gf here is ethnically chinese, i did NOT plan this.) on one hand, the people who date 20 asian women in a row and say "i'm just fascinated by the culture" make me puke. the flip of that is that there really are farrangs here in thailand--and asia in general--for other reasons, even including just being "fascinated by the culture." they tend to date asian women because--news flash--most of the attractive women in asia are asian. because it's asia. the bottom line about human mating strategies in general, from a biological point of view, is that they are diverse and flexible. different people have different preferences, and individuals' preferences change, especially if they're not succeeding at mating. btw when i say strategy i dont mean conscious strategy, i mean strategy in the biological sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 STILL over-thinking! maybe...I guess I better not elaborate... go ahead and elaborate. brucie can have some cheese with his whine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankenburner2 Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 STILL over-thinking! maybe...I guess I better not elaborate... go ahead and elaborate. brucie can have some cheese with his whine. i'd rather have cheese on my pizza....i like pizza.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispilok Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 STILL over-thinking! maybe...I guess I better not elaborate... go ahead and elaborate. brucie can have some cheese with his whine. Actually he hit the mark (a lucky shot maybe)...I *over* think most things. A character flaw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Punisher Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 I agree. I don't buy the notion that attractiveness is a cultural or media generated phenonmenon. I think its biological. Some people are uncomfortable acknowledging this I think. it is mostly biological. there is a social component, and that social component can be influence by the media. it is as naive to think that any trait is 100 percent genetic as it is to think any trait is 100 percent cultural. It reminds me of those arguments they used to have in the US about whether African Americans were generally better athletes than whites genetically or whether it was cultural. it is both genetic and cultural. to be good at any sport you have to have talent. and you have to practice and learn. a lot. A stupid debate as anyone who has ever played playground hoops can attest. How many 5'8" black guys do you have to see dunk a basketball to get that?) and to get that there's a cultural component, go to a white neighborhood in new york and then go to harlem or brooklyn. see who is playing. how many 5'8" black guys do you have to see who suck at basketball but still follow it closely to get that? Anyway, a few years ago after I had dated only asians for a couple of years I was kind of down on myself about that. Then I met a white woman at a party. Immediate attraction. "Cool!" I thought. "No fetishes here. Phew." Well I found out after the party that she was actually half Japanese. To me this was the perfect "control experiment" because in my mind she was caucasian so if I was attracted to Asian women for cultural reasons I would not have been so attracted to her. my personal history is that while i dated a relatively high number of asian (specifically, chinese) women in new york, i wasn't chasing them more than other ethnicities, they were just the ones who said "yes." so personally i am not more attracted to chinese girls, just for some reason (possibly only strange coincidence) the girls with the most interest in me have been chinese. (even more strangely my gf here is ethnically chinese, i did NOT plan this.) on one hand, the people who date 20 asian women in a row and say "i'm just fascinated by the culture" make me puke. the flip of that is that there really are farrangs here in thailand--and asia in general--for other reasons, even including just being "fascinated by the culture." they tend to date asian women because--news flash--most of the attractive women in asia are asian. because it's asia. the bottom line about human mating strategies in general, from a biological point of view, is that they are diverse and flexible. different people have different preferences, and individuals' preferences change, especially if they're not succeeding at mating. btw when i say strategy i dont mean conscious strategy, i mean strategy in the biological sense. I agree with Zeus totally. Too many people try to over simplify things by saying it is either one way or the other; when really there can be many many different reasons why even the simplist of events occurs. While boxes are convenient, it is very rare that human nature defined can be put in one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 i'd rather have cheese on my pizza....i like pizza.... that explains why, in rama 2 central mall, there's a shop called... "canadian pizza." :shock: canadians and pizza who knew?? i thought y'all ate moose meat or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Actually he hit the mark (a lucky shot maybe)...I *over* think most things. A character flaw. you say that like it's a bad thing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PattayaDaz Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Princess *Everyone* has a hidden agenda - some people just have nicer ones than others. Yep... I'm sure you have a lovely little ''agenda'' :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 there's no conspiracy. no secret. no hidden agenda..... I guess the buffalo stories are urban legends? *Everyone* has a hidden agenda - some people just have nicer ones than others. the buffalo stories are real....but then again...so is santa clause ...neither has anything do with western men being attracted to asian women. what's "your" hidden agenda? Hm...if I told you it would not be a "hidden agenda" now would it? Tsk tsk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Princess *Everyone* has a hidden agenda - some people just have nicer ones than others. Yep... I'm sure you have a lovely little ''agenda'' :wink: No need to butter me up Daz, I will forward you all the **** pics that come here for approval. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PattayaDaz Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Ummmmm........ A hot buttered ''agenda'' Sounds great....you're making me hungry...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ngairo Posted October 12, 2006 Report Share Posted October 12, 2006 Princess *Everyone* has a hidden agenda - some people just have nicer ones than others. Yep... I'm sure you have a lovely little ''agenda'' :wink: No need to butter me up Daz, I will forward you all the **** pics that come here for approval. More cheese please...this has got tasteless.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiaranM Posted October 14, 2006 Report Share Posted October 14, 2006 Why is it that there are volumes written on blogs and even fortunes made with hooking up western men with Asian and other exotic women for marriage and or just for sex. Yet, there is no such demand of western women by Asian or African men? Western Man is a hunter, an explorer and a warrior protector. It is natural to fear the unknown, the exotic and that which we do no understand. A real Western Man sticks out his chest and confronts, dominates and controls the object of his fears and brings it into line with that which Western Man considers normal. Western Woman sew and cook. Why are western women put down so harshly by many of the western men who travel to other parts of the world?Yet western women who have travelled the world have no such volume of harsh words for their western males? Western Man is the story teller, the trickster, the cunning sage. Western Man controls Western Woman by controlling the stories first. (see media control, propaganda and popular spin) Brer Rabbit and Anansi the Spider are acually Western Man training manuals. All serious comments and responses welcome. Do you hear me Bruce? These questions were inspired by some of Zeus's musings over my Stickman question. Man is a comedian, a showman, a look at me preening peacock. Women gossip and laugh spitefully at one another, Man bonds through laughing "with" fellow Mans. Humour is important to Man as much of Man's life is stressfully engaged in sport, work and manly pursuits. i want some of Jay's drugs ..... NOW PLS !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankenburner2 Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 i want some of Jay's drugs ..... NOW PLS !!!! Man drugs produced by Man balls where the hell did YOU get them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankenburner2 Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 i want some of Jay's drugs ..... NOW PLS !!!! Man drugs produced by Man balls where the hell did YOU get them? Out bivouaccing with other Mans... so ... you got them via osmosis whilst you were rubbing some guys nuts in the great outdoors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 i want some of Jay's drugs ..... NOW PLS !!!! Man drugs produced by Man balls where the hell did YOU get them? Out bivouaccing with other Mans... so ... you got them via osmosis whilst you were rubbing some guys nuts in the great outdoors? keep yr grubby paws away from my great outdoors... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankenburner2 Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 i want some of Jay's drugs ..... NOW PLS !!!! Man drugs produced by Man balls where the hell did YOU get them? Out bivouaccing with other Mans... so ... you got them via osmosis whilst you were rubbing some guys nuts in the great outdoors? keep yr grubby paws away from my great outdoors... aha! so it was you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 Ew someone get the cootie repellant. Too many man-germs in the air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 Ew someone get the cootie repellant. Too many man-germs in the air. turns you on, doesn't it. sadly for you, we're ALL taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankenburner2 Posted October 16, 2006 Report Share Posted October 16, 2006 Ew someone get the cootie repellant. Too many man-germs in the air. shuffle along there princess...nothing for you to be bothered with here....unless of course you too have a story to tell about getting man drugs from man balls...either via bivouaccing, osmosis or the more traditianal method of sucking and swallowing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Posted October 17, 2006 Report Share Posted October 17, 2006 sadly for you, we're ALL taken. I'm lighting candles of thanks right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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