GAV Posted May 2, 2007 Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 While I dont condone Drink driving it is only part of the problem. It is the one being promoted in the public eye and being enforced by out enforcement people. And its all BULL ****. Why.......Because it is only ONE of the causes fof road deaths but the others are ignored Take fatigue for instance. Driving tired is just as dangerous as driving Drunk, but nothing is done about it. It almost does not exist as a cause. Tje other biggie are roads Road signs or more correctly speed signs. On a streach of freeway that I use every day there are 23 speed cameras and about 40 roadside speed sighs. They are electronic and change randomly all the time. The camera recognises a car and at a measured didtance down the road recognises it again. Instant fine if caught speeding. The confusion over what speed you are supposed to be doing at any one point in time is distracting to say the least and can be down right dangerous If law enforcemnt were out there policing less people would be killed If the govenments exerised their duty of car and built safe roads If socity put more importance on other causes of road death If drivers had to earn their licences instead of being given them the roads of the world would be a lot safe. This wont happen of course dso the witch hunt continues Yes drunk driving is stupid dangerous and should be pumished But the pious people out there better wake up to the opther equally dangerous causes or road kill that no one seems to care about THAT IS MY BIG REGRET.............Wake up all of you critics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vacanti373 Posted May 2, 2007 Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 I never "drink and drive!" :!: I drink before I drive! :wink: *** On a serious note, which i commented on , not too many days ago, my buddy had been drinking, kissed his g/f(future wife) while driving, and hit a parked car during the kiss. His g/f was killed instantly. How the fu*k can you live with that? *** (This has no "pointing fingers" at anyones comments) I drove a semi truck through the Washington state highway, so smashed out of my mind, I was putting on the brakes when a paper bag blew acrosss the street. On a 5 or 6 lane highway, I was drifting from lane 1 to lane 6. Luckily I pulled over and went to sleep just as the police caught up to me. I could have killed many people that day by my own stupidity. and I won't even go into details about 2 people I ran over (seperate occasions) when I was sober. (not my fault...police were actually witnesses on the scene) but that is how easy things can happen. Drinking and driving are not good things. **** but if you lost your DL for drinking and driving, FU*K the cops. Drive anyway, but just be prepared to pay the fine. *** But do it 100% sober.!!!!!!! If you kill someone with no DL, and you are drunk, your life is over..... Kaput!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldMember Posted May 2, 2007 Report Share Posted May 2, 2007 On a streach of freeway that I use every day there are 23 speed cameras and about 40 roadside speed sighs. They are electronic and change randomly all the time. The camera recognises a car and at a measured didtance down the road recognises it again. Instant fine if caught speeding. The confusion over what speed you are supposed to be doing at any one point in time is distracting to say the least and can be down right dangerous Not disagreeing with you Gav and indeed speed cams are one of life's pain in butts.But,in France ,which used to have one of Europe's worst road death tally,since the introduction of cameras,road deaths have been cut in half- and in just only a couple of years or so .Whereas before if you were doing 140kph on the autoroutes you would be be confined to the slow lane,now doing the same speed you overtake pretty well every car .Quite a transformation of driving habits i'm sure you would agree.Another French speeding ticket is expected in the post imminently-some take a bit longer than others to adapt to the new regime 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 If you are brave enough to make an honest post here, be careful ! Some " know it all " TFer might slam you in the next post , with little consideration, that you just might really regret what you did or said. :shock: Well, if the only regret which is shown appears to be that "you shouldn't drive without a license or else you could end up in jail" or something like "if I knew that Victoria had such harsh driving laws I wouldn't have done it" than IMO *that* is little consideration. Little consideration for other people in traffic that is. :shock: Not to get into a " Pissing Contest ", but being judgmental towards someone when they open up is just wrong. !!! here, have a tissue. press your skirt and have a good cry. come on, let it all out. really, if you think posting something semi-anonymously on the internet counts as opening up, you need a reality check. and if you can be hurt that easily by being teased by a stranger on the internet.... i'm not sure whether that is laughable or tragic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 My biggest regret so far , and I've had a few is : Driving my car when I had way too much too drink in the early morning of Jan 2 , this year . Had 2 friends in the car with me as well . Been drinking and driving for a long time now . This is going to sound really stupid , but I was actually quite good at it too . . you're right about one thing, that does sound really stupid. regardless of how good you *think* you are, it's NOT your business to risk the lives of others now is it. since you don't mind risking other people's lives, i'm sure you won't mind me risking yours---i got a new shotgun, and i fancy a little william tell-style fancy shootin'. volunteering? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 Much like becoming a serial killer and eating your victims brains you say that like it's a bad thing. would perhaps raise some distaste, no doubt should someone "open up" in this respect you would be there to defend and applaud? fine. and here i thought this was "sharing and caring time." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 People all over the world drink and drive, "MILLIONS" of them, they drive after being at parties, picnics, or whatever. This happens every day and " Oh my God ", for the majority, no accidents !, not even a close call ! Can you give me that stats on the numbers involved , Total cars driven home safely by someone who was drinking vs Total accidents with deaths caused by cars driven by someone who was drinking . ? I think not ! can you give me the stats, what percentage of traffic fatalities are caused by drunk drivers? your sense of personal responsibility is that flimsy? you're willing to risk OTHER people's lives, then lecture people about teasing others on the internet? your priorities are seriously screwed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 [ My license was something I took for granted, when I get it back , I will never take the risk of losing it again . If that means driving in a safe manner and being sober , then so be it . But believe me when I say that I dont fear hurting other people while driving anymore than you do . proof that deterrence works. if someone doesn't give a **** about others, they can at least care whether their own life gets screwed over. tally one for the legal system! yay! EDIT: to be fair, it *appears* you are talking about not fearing hurting others while you are driving normally, while sober. in that case, respek. but if you're saying you don't fear hurting others when drunk driving, that's another thing entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 i can't believe anybody is trying to say it's OK to drink and drive !! that really is a NO BRAINER !!!! I hope you understand the difference in Drunk vs Drinking. Thats the " No Brainer " :shock: Be honest, After 2 drinks, and you are ready to go, do you take taxi ?? i do understand the difference between Drunk vs Drinking and BOTH impair mine and ur ability to safely drive !!! regretably not always in the past, but now and in the future (i hope) i will always take a taxi (or walk) after driving !! i ain't trying to come across as a saint, but i know mine and everybody else's ability to drive safely is affected by drink ... and yes even ONLY after 2 drinks !! anybody who thinks otherwise is only fooling themselves !!! never thought i'd say this but ciaranm, you're a role model. drunkards everywhere now have someone to look up to! yay! go ciaran! hereinafter, you ARE a saint... relative to the standards of TF. well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 Driving drunk is the worst decision a person can make and all too often it was one made with poor judgment. And even if it is one beer its just not a good idea is it? How is this an issue? still confused here i think flying an airplane drunk is probably a worse decision but otherwise i agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 While I dont condone Drink driving it is only part of the problem. It is the one being promoted in the public eye and being enforced by out enforcement people. And its all BULL sh*t. Why.......Because it is only ONE of the causes fof road deaths but the others are ignored it's focussed on because it's the most testable. you can prove it rather solidly in court. Take fatigue for instance. Driving tired is just as dangerous as driving Drunk, but nothing is done about it. It almost does not exist as a cause. now how do you propose cops test for sleep-deprivation? i'd be all for it if the c**ksuckers could all be thrown in jail for not pulling over and taking a nap, but how would you prove it? Tje other biggie are roads Road signs or more correctly speed signs. On a streach of freeway that I use every day there are 23 speed cameras and about 40 roadside speed sighs. They are electronic and change randomly all the time. The camera recognises a car and at a measured didtance down the road recognises it again. Instant fine if caught speeding. The confusion over what speed you are supposed to be doing at any one point in time is distracting to say the least and can be down right dangerous well it must be confusing because i haven't the faintest idea what you just said. If law enforcemnt were out there policing less people would be killedIf the govenments exerised their duty of car and built safe roads If socity put more importance on other causes of road death If drivers had to earn their licences instead of being given them the roads of the world would be a lot safe. i think the roads themselves are, generally, fairly well designed in many countries. thailnad maybe could stand some improvement. earning licenses would be a great idea though. road test every 5 years, or at least ten. it's not a secret that skills can diminish with age, and there are plenty of thoroughly dangerous eightysomethings on the road who are a signficant safety risk. This wont happen of course dso the witch hunt continuesYes drunk driving is stupid dangerous and should be pumished But the pious people out there better wake up to the opther equally dangerous causes or road kill that no one seems to care about as long as you're not saying that the existence of other causes of traffic fatalities means we should go easier (AT ALL) on drunk driving, i'd tend to agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 sorry i came to the party late. short version: FFS driving is dangerous enough. don't make it worse by drinking (or otherwise impairing your skills) first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunEd Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 sorry i came to the party late. short version: FFS driving is dangerous enough. don't make it worse by drinking (or otherwise impairing your skills) first. Believe me, being caught up in this forum has been no party ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhunEd Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 sorry i came to the party late. short version: FFS driving is dangerous enough. don't make it worse by drinking (or otherwise impairing your skills) first. Believe me, being caught up in this forum has been no party ! You have potential, start with the basics like not pissing on your own shoes. :shock: Hey, things got a little out of hand, no hard feelings on this side. Live and learn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiaranM Posted May 4, 2007 Report Share Posted May 4, 2007 i can't believe anybody is trying to say it's OK to drink and drive !! that really is a NO BRAINER !!!! I hope you understand the difference in Drunk vs Drinking. Thats the " No Brainer " :shock: Be honest, After 2 drinks, and you are ready to go, do you take taxi ?? i do understand the difference between Drunk vs Drinking and BOTH impair mine and ur ability to safely drive !!! regretably not always in the past, but now and in the future (i hope) i will always take a taxi (or walk) after driving !! i ain't trying to come across as a saint, but i know mine and everybody else's ability to drive safely is affected by drink ... and yes even ONLY after 2 drinks !! anybody who thinks otherwise is only fooling themselves !!! never thought i'd say this but ciaranm, you're a role model. drunkards everywhere now have someone to look up to! yay! go ciaran! hereinafter, you ARE a saint... relative to the standards of TF. well done. woooo hooooo ..... at last the recognition i deserve !! ...... i think !!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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