Closing Suvanabhumi Airport b/c of PAD

[clemenf]

US urges an end to airport takeovers in Thailand

WASHINGTON -- The United States says it is "deeply concerned" about thousands of protesters who have occupied Thailand's airports in an anti-government campaign that marks the country's worst political crisis in decades.

State Department spokesman Gordon Duguid said Friday that the People's Alliance for Democracy action is "not an appropriate means of protest."

He says the United States urges the protesters "to walk away from the airports peacefully."

Thailand's capital remains completely cut off from air traffic.

The protest grew out of the PAD's hatred of former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra. Thaksin was ousted in a bloodless military coup in September 2006 after months of protests by the alliance.

Thaksin and his allies are being accused of corruption and abuse of power.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081128/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_thailand_political_unrest_1

hmmm..USA....what with world police now? what hidden agenda??? they out of rice in America??? :roll:

[DJTX]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/travelnews/3533883/20-of-the-worlds-most-dangerous-places.html

for original story

do think its slightly sensationalist; would rather be stuck at airport just now than wandering about Haiti, Colombia, Eritrea or any of the others 'lower' down the list.

I've looked at the original article several times now. My first "question" would be - is this really in order of danger!

[Stramash]

If there was big oil reserves in the Andaman Sea, the PAD protesters would be getting carpet bombed right about...

now.

[DJTX]

US urges an end to airport takeovers in Thailand

WASHINGTON -- The United States says it is "deeply concerned" about thousands of protesters who have occupied Thailand's airports in an anti-government campaign that marks the country's worst political crisis in decades.

State Department spokesman Gordon Duguid said Friday that the People's Alliance for Democracy action is "not an appropriate means of protest."

He says the United States urges the protesters "to walk away from the airports peacefully."

Thailand's capital remains completely cut off from air traffic.

The protest grew out of the PAD's hatred of former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra. Thaksin was ousted in a bloodless military coup in September 2006 after months of protests by the alliance.

Thaksin and his allies are being accused of corruption and abuse of power.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081128/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_thailand_political_unrest_1

hmmm..USA....what with world police now? what hidden agenda??? they out of rice in America??? :roll:

Ahh, just about every country in the world has the same opinion.

[Stramash]

If there was big oil reserves in the Andaman Sea, the PAD protesters would be getting carpet bombed right about...

ah well, might take out some of their militants as well.

(or brush it off as friendly fire)

now.

Depends on which part of Andaman. Doesn't India own about half of those Islands.

[zeusbheld]

US urges an end to airport takeovers in Thailand

WASHINGTON -- The United States says it is "deeply concerned" about thousands of protesters who have occupied Thailand's airports in an anti-government campaign that marks the country's worst political crisis in decades.

State Department spokesman Gordon Duguid said Friday that the People's Alliance for Democracy action is "not an appropriate means of protest."

He says the United States urges the protesters "to walk away from the airports peacefully."

Thailand's capital remains completely cut off from air traffic.

The protest grew out of the PAD's hatred of former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra. Thaksin was ousted in a bloodless military coup in September 2006 after months of protests by the alliance.

Thaksin and his allies are being accused of corruption and abuse of power.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081128/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_thailand_political_unrest_1

hmmm..USA....what with world police now? what hidden agenda??? they out of rice in America??? :roll:

what's with the hidden agenda??? out of fuel for wanky conspiracy bullshit?

[zeusbheld]

US urges an end to airport takeovers in Thailand

WASHINGTON -- The United States says it is "deeply concerned" about thousands of protesters who have occupied Thailand's airports in an anti-government campaign that marks the country's worst political crisis in decades.

State Department spokesman Gordon Duguid said Friday that the People's Alliance for Democracy action is "not an appropriate means of protest."

He says the United States urges the protesters "to walk away from the airports peacefully."

Thailand's capital remains completely cut off from air traffic.

The protest grew out of the PAD's hatred of former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra. Thaksin was ousted in a bloodless military coup in September 2006 after months of protests by the alliance.

Thaksin and his allies are being accused of corruption and abuse of power.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081128/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_thailand_political_unrest_1

hmmm..USA....what with world police now? what hidden agenda??? they out of rice in America??? :roll:

Ahh, just about every country in the world has the same opinion.

Now now. You know as well as I do that only Europe is allowed an opinion. They stole all the rights to opinions back after the fall of Rome.

after several centuries of colonialism i find it interesting that europeans have somehow assumed that they have somehow been cleansed by this, and their countries are free of sin.

interesting that anyone could be so blissfully ******* ignorant of their own history, that is, otherwise it isn't very interesting.

[Stramash]

US urges an end to airport takeovers in Thailand

WASHINGTON -- The United States says it is "deeply concerned" about thousands of protesters who have occupied Thailand's airports in an anti-government campaign that marks the country's worst political crisis in decades.

State Department spokesman Gordon Duguid said Friday that the People's Alliance for Democracy action is "not an appropriate means of protest."

He says the United States urges the protesters "to walk away from the airports peacefully."

Thailand's capital remains completely cut off from air traffic.

The protest grew out of the PAD's hatred of former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra. Thaksin was ousted in a bloodless military coup in September 2006 after months of protests by the alliance.

Thaksin and his allies are being accused of corruption and abuse of power.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081128/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_thailand_political_unrest_1

hmmm..USA....what with world police now? what hidden agenda??? they out of rice in America??? :roll:

Ahh, just about every country in the world has the same opinion.

Now now. You know as well as I do that only Europe is allowed an opinion. They stole all the rights to opinions back after the fall of Rome.

after several centuries of colonialism i find it interesting that europeans have somehow assumed that they have somehow been cleansed by this, and their countries are free of sin.

interesting that anyone could be so blissfully f*cking ignorant of their own history, that is, otherwise it isn't very interesting.

:?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:

[zeusbheld]

US urges an end to airport takeovers in Thailand

WASHINGTON -- The United States says it is "deeply concerned" about thousands of protesters who have occupied Thailand's airports in an anti-government campaign that marks the country's worst political crisis in decades.

State Department spokesman Gordon Duguid said Friday that the People's Alliance for Democracy action is "not an appropriate means of protest."

He says the United States urges the protesters "to walk away from the airports peacefully."

Thailand's capital remains completely cut off from air traffic.

The protest grew out of the PAD's hatred of former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra. Thaksin was ousted in a bloodless military coup in September 2006 after months of protests by the alliance.

Thaksin and his allies are being accused of corruption and abuse of power.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081128/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_thailand_political_unrest_1

hmmm..USA....what with world police now? what hidden agenda??? they out of rice in America??? :roll:

Ahh, just about every country in the world has the same opinion.

Now now. You know as well as I do that only Europe is allowed an opinion. They stole all the rights to opinions back after the fall of Rome.

after several centuries of colonialism i find it interesting that europeans have somehow assumed that they have somehow been cleansed by this, and their countries are free of sin.

interesting that anyone could be so blissfully f*cking ignorant of their own history, that is, otherwise it isn't very interesting.

:?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?: :?:

haven't you heard? condemning the airport takeovers is part of an imperialist agenda, at least according to limp-**** ex vikings.

[Stramash]

careful now - I am a viking apologist...

(in fact give me enough bourbon or brandy and I'll apologise for anything - shold be able to prove this in about 12 hours when I get back from the party... :wink: )

[GM]

US urges an end to airport takeovers in Thailand

WASHINGTON -- The United States says it is "deeply concerned" about thousands of protesters who have occupied Thailand's airports in an anti-government campaign that marks the country's worst political crisis in decades.

State Department spokesman Gordon Duguid said Friday that the People's Alliance for Democracy action is "not an appropriate means of protest."

He says the United States urges the protesters "to walk away from the airports peacefully."

Thailand's capital remains completely cut off from air traffic.

The protest grew out of the PAD's hatred of former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra. Thaksin was ousted in a bloodless military coup in September 2006 after months of protests by the alliance.

Thaksin and his allies are being accused of corruption and abuse of power.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081128/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_thailand_political_unrest_1

hmmm..USA....what with world police now? what hidden agenda??? they out of rice in America??? :roll:

Ahh, just about every country in the world has the same opinion.

Now now. You know as well as I do that only Europe is allowed an opinion. They stole all the rights to opinions back after the fall of Rome.

after several centuries of colonialism i find it interesting that europeans have somehow assumed that they have somehow been cleansed by this, and their countries are free of sin.

interesting that anyone could be so blissfully f*cking ignorant of their own history, that is, otherwise it isn't very interesting.

There isn't a country in the world that is free of sin in this regard. It's the nature of politics and power that gov'ts be corrupt. European gov'ts are no better than the US.... no better than China...no better than India...etc... the only difference is the package they wrap it up in and level of denial of it's nationals....

[Stramash]

US urges an end to airport takeovers in Thailand

WASHINGTON -- The United States says it is "deeply concerned" about thousands of protesters who have occupied Thailand's airports in an anti-government campaign that marks the country's worst political crisis in decades.

State Department spokesman Gordon Duguid said Friday that the People's Alliance for Democracy action is "not an appropriate means of protest."

He says the United States urges the protesters "to walk away from the airports peacefully."

Thailand's capital remains completely cut off from air traffic.

The protest grew out of the PAD's hatred of former Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra. Thaksin was ousted in a bloodless military coup in September 2006 after months of protests by the alliance.

Thaksin and his allies are being accused of corruption and abuse of power.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081128/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_thailand_political_unrest_1

hmmm..USA....what with world police now? what hidden agenda??? they out of rice in America??? :roll:

Ahh, just about every country in the world has the same opinion.

Now now. You know as well as I do that only Europe is allowed an opinion. They stole all the rights to opinions back after the fall of Rome.

after several centuries of colonialism i find it interesting that europeans have somehow assumed that they have somehow been cleansed by this, and their countries are free of sin.

interesting that anyone could be so blissfully f*cking ignorant of their own history, that is, otherwise it isn't very interesting.

There isn't a country in the world that is free of sin in this regard. It's the nature of politics and power that gov'ts be corrupt. European gov'ts are no better than the US.... no better than China...no better than India...etc... the only difference is the package they wrap it up in and level of denial of it's nationals....

Bhutan...

[zeusbheld]

There isn't a country in the world that is free of sin in this regard. It's the nature of politics and power that gov'ts be corrupt. European gov'ts are no better than the US.... no better than China...no better than India...etc... the only difference is the package they wrap it up in and level of denial of it's nationals....

i think Liechtenstein probably doesn't have too much blood on its hands, if only because they're small enough to be ineffectual and irrelevant.

[GM]

There isn't a country in the world that is free of sin in this regard. It's the nature of politics and power that gov'ts be corrupt. European gov'ts are no better than the US.... no better than China...no better than India...etc... the only difference is the package they wrap it up in and level of denial of it's nationals....

i think Liechtenstein probably doesn't have too much blood on its hands, if only because they're small enough to be ineffectual and irrelevant.

I've heard there is national shame due to exploitation of immigrant workers to make cheap lederhosen...

[DJTX]

On today's episode of Jeopardy

28 Pages!

How long did it take for this thread to get around to the US. :roll:

Not too many more!

How many more pages until it becomes a George Bush topic :twisted:

[Stramash]

I thought we were discussing Liechenstein; it's been their oil pursuing interventionist policies that are to blame for many of the world's woes (not to mention the chronic lederhose shortage... )

[DJTX]

Bangkok Post:

The severing of air links with Bangkok - a vital air hub that handles 3% of world air cargo and 100,000 travellers a day - rippled through the region with airlines scrambling to reroute passengers and freight as hopes for a quick resolution to the crisis faded.

The government yesterday backed away from a threat to use force to disperse the protesters who have shut down the capital's two commercial airports, setting the scene for a prolonged disruption to transport across the region and a massive blow to the kingdom's economy.

Since Tuesday, dozens of airlines have cancelled all flights to and from Bangkok until further notice while others made special arrangements to rescue passengers stranded in Thailand, some by utilising U-tapao airport.

Suvarnabhumi airport is one of the world's most "densely connected" airports, serving about 100 airlines with flights to 184 cities in 68 countries, said Andrew Herdman, director-general of the Association of Asia-Pacific Airlines.

"The biggest impact is on Thai Airways. Their hub is shut and crippling their operations," said Mr Herdman. "The ripple effect for other Asian carriers in rerouting passengers and cargo causes a significant knock-on disruption."

On a normal day, about 100,000 passengers pass through Suvarnabhumi, Mr Herdman said. "That's a lot of inconvenience for a lot of people," he said.

Thai Airways, losing 490 million baht in revenue a day with its fleet parked on the tarmac, said yesterday it would try to operate flights from U-tapao airport.

But it was unlikely U-tapao could handle more than a trickle of extra passengers. U-tapao's car park has room for just 100 vehicles and its terminal can accommodate only 400 people at once.

Cathay Pacific Airways scheduled two flights yesterday and today from U-tapao airport to bring home Hong Kong residents, said spokeswoman Carolyn Leung. Air Macao and Malaysia's AirAsia are also planning rescue flights to U-tapao.

Tourism officials and economists says the tourism industry's losses over the remainder of the year will balloon to about 150 billion baht, equal to 1.5% of gross domestic product, with two million or more travellers canceling their plans.

Exporters in Thailand are aghast at the mounting costs of lost trade, estimated by the Federation of Thai Industries at two to three billion baht a day.

Singapore Airlines' six daily flights to Bangkok were halted for a third day. Japan Airlines has stopped all five daily flights between Bangkok and three Japanese cities, including Tokyo, since Wednesday.

[Bruce551]

TOC News

Update 28 Nov 28

What does the People?s Alliance for Democracy have to gain from this long struggle?

A country that is free of corruption, crony capitalism, and nepotism. There is no financial gain to be made. Sondhi Limthongkul has already came out on several occasions and spoke about how he was offered more than 500 million baht for ASTV, but declined the offer knowing that it would be the end to INDEPENDENT Media free from the governments control. Pipob Thongchai has no business interest he is well known for his free educational schools in the provinces. Somkiat Pongpaiboon, is a former academic and now politician who wants to see change in society. Somsak Kosaisuk, is a leader of the state enterprises confederation who fought against the privatization of state enterprises. Chamlong Srimuang is a former army general, Bangkok governor and now an organic farmer who has a leadership school for civil servants as well as looking after unwanted street dogs. Not quite a group of capitalist bent on gaining from this long enduring struggle.

Several people have asked why have the PAD has resorted to protesting at Suvanaphumi airport?

The PAD has protested for more than six months, holding several mini rally?s around the city. We have protested at the ECC, Metropolitan Police Bureau, UK Embassy, Silom, Siam Square and several other areas in the capital to protest the corruption and lies within the government.

The Samak Sundaravej and Somchai Wongsawat governments both claim they came from free and fair democratic elections?

If that is true why is there coalition government consisting of the People Power Party, Chart Thai and Matchima Tipataya Party close to being dissolved due to electoral violations and accusations of vote buying? So, is it fair to say they had to cheat to win? If they do have the support they claim? Why would it be necessary to go such measures to win votes?

Is Thai Media free from government intervention?

It?s funny that the Pro-Government supporters who have a TV program on NBT Channel 11are bent on voicing their opposition against the PAD while they are broadcast on FREE TV, while ASTV is only available to those who have access to internet, members of provincial cable (which mind you only reaches 20-30% of the population), and viewer who purchase Free to Air satellites. So, in other words the people who support the PAD have had to go out of their way to listen to what the PAD has to say and not the PRO-Government Propaganda that is being aired. So, you could say the made a conscientious choice to listen to ASTV instead.

This government loves to speak of their populist policies? But always forget about the criminals within their party

Why doesn?t this government ever talk about the former party members who have been jailed such as Somchai (Kamnan Poh) the father of Sonthaya Khunplume former tourism minister or Wattana Asavahame who have both fled the country after their convictions of corruption? Let?s not forget the other person they are protecting Thaksin Shinawatra.

For the last 6 months, the government has chosen to ignore hundreds of thousands of Thai citizens who have come out to show opposition toward this administration. The PAD realizes that the airport closures will drastically affect Thailand on a variety of dimensions. However, we will no longer be ignored.

:arrow:

[DJTX]

Nuh uh...Europe got washed in the blood of the lamb and now they are renewed. Perfect again. They no longer have to accept blame for handing off a f**ked up world after WWII. Colonialism and all of it's wonders is no longer their fault. Didn't you hear? All of the Colonial peoples loved European rule. Those countries of Europe who gave up colonialism did so on their own in order to uplift the citizens of the world. No European country has ever made a mistake. Everything is the fault of those meddling kids and their damn dog. I mean America. Next Century, we'll blame it all on China.

Ah, yeah, sure, okay. BTW - I have this bridge in Brooklyn that I'd like to sell too :twisted:

[beej]

TOC News

Update 28 Nov 28

What does the People?s Alliance for Democracy have to gain from this long struggle?

A country that is free of corruption, crony capitalism, and nepotism.

The first lines bullshit, so what makes anyone think the rest of its carrying any weight.

[DJTX]

TOC News

Update 28 Nov 28

What does the People?s Alliance for Democracy have to gain from this long struggle?

A country that is free of corruption, crony capitalism, and nepotism.

The first lines bullshit, so what makes anyone think the rest of its carrying any weight.

Come on now. PAD has a lot to gain. Just think of how much more physically fit they will be from playing so much badminton at the airport.

[beej]

TOC News

Update 28 Nov 28

What does the People?s Alliance for Democracy have to gain from this long struggle?

A country that is free of corruption, crony capitalism, and nepotism.

The first lines bullshit, so what makes anyone think the rest of its carrying any weight.

Come on now. PAD has a lot to gain. Just think of how much more physically fit they will be from playing so much badminton at the airport.

Looks like the days badminton will be canceled for today, the police are moving in!

[beej]

BBC are reporting that police have moved in and have exchanged fire with the first blockade.

I hope this can be carried off with as few casualties as possible, but the PAD had it coming, they never wanted to leave without a fight, its what the 'thugs' in it for the fight wanted.

Hope its all sorted for Tuesday.

[zeusbheld]

TOC News

Update 28 Nov 28

What does the People?s Alliance for Democracy have to gain from this long struggle?

A country that is free of corruption, crony capitalism, and nepotism. There is no financial gain to be made. Sondhi Limthongkul has already came out

aside from at least one egregious grammatical error,

can someone please ******* explain to me how Thailand will be free of corruption, crony capitalism and nepotism and still have Sondhi in it? blatant contradiction in terms, seems to me.

[JayB]

I find the photo on the front cover of the Bangkok Post today very disturbing

Even if it was stage-managed for effect, this is way beyond protest.

I really hope I?m wrong but I don?t see a peaceful end to this.

This is the only link I can find to the photo

http://bangkokpost.newspaperdirect.com/epaper/viewer.aspx