alvish Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 "If the People Power Party were to be found guilty, Somchai would lose his premiership and his Cabinet would have to go with him. However, a deputy prime minister, who is not a party executive, might be appointed to succeed Somchai." You think PAD would be happy with a Deputy Prime Minister stepping in?? Their main aim was to get rid of Somchai.. This could be a possible solution.. beats a coup, safer than a snap election and sure beats civil war? Today (Tuesday) is guaranteed to be an interesting day.. MILITARY PARADE & PARTY DISSOLUTION Battle moves to Court: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2008/12/02/politics/politics_30089951.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 But golf clubs seem to be the weapon of choice over at the airports...maybe they are on to something. FINALLY. someone found a MANLY use for the damned things. <<applauds with clapper thingy>> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 but at least we can play rugby without donning armour and helmets to protect our pansy like sensibilities!!!] that's because scotsmen can't run fast enough to hurt each other when they run into each other at top speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 In conclusion: You should be less concerned with the poster and try deal with the post and it's actual contents... that would be a fine point, had it not been the mere coda to a novel-length string of ad hominems. also, you spend a long time arguing that his armchair expertise is no better, and possibly worse, than yours. so? besides the fact that neither of you make very appealing authorities, appeal to authority is as much a logical fallacy as ad hominems are. nonetheless, that point you made above--stands. the assaults on the poster add to the entertainment value but if once in a while people would actually address the content, that might just add a whole new dimension to the awesome toolbox of the TF Stink Tank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 "If the People Power Party were to be found guilty, Somchai would lose his premiership and his Cabinet would have to go with him. However, a deputy prime minister, who is not a party executive, might be appointed to succeed Somchai."You think PAD would be happy with a Deputy Prime Minister stepping in?? Their main aim was to get rid of Somchai.. This could be a possible solution.. beats a coup, safer than a snap election and sure beats civil war? Today (Tuesday) is guaranteed to be an interesting day.. MILITARY PARADE & PARTY DISSOLUTION Battle moves to Court: http://www.nationmultimedia.com/2008/12/02/politics/politics_30089951.php it would be great if both sides could at least agree on a compromise deputy being appointed, so we could go a few weeks without "activists" heroically torching the Thai economy and watching it burn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ngairo Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 This is classic....we have a new baby Prime Minister...only a few weeks old... Scramble from Bangkok: Air Force jets out of actionTuesday, 02 December 2008 A potential emergency evacuation of up to 300 New Zealanders trapped in Bangkok by anti-government protests could be hamstrung by the air force's two Boeing 757s both being out of action. Prime Minister John Key yesterday said the Government was considering commercial charter flights or even military aircraft to get stranded New Zealanders out of Thailand. But today he said if the Government chose to send military aircraft to evacuate New Zealanders in the event of violence they would have to rely on the air force's old and slow C-130 Hercules. The two Hercules would have to fly to Bangkok in two legs, stopping to refuel in Darwin - potentially taking over a day to get there. That was because the air force's newer, faster and more comfortable Boeing 757s were in the United States being upgraded. "We have options through the Hercs, but not the 757s." Asked if he was happy about that situation, Mr Key said he was having "broad discussions" with the Defence Force. Mr Key said the number of New Zealanders stuck in Bangkok was climbing and could now be above 300. "It's anything from about 200 to potentially over 300." Mr Key was set to attend the East Asia Summit in Chiang Mai in two weeks, but he said he now understood through officials it had been postponed. The planned signing of New Zealand and Australia's free trade agreement with the Association of South East Asian Nations (Asean) at the summit would be postponed, he said. Now considering we don't really have an airforce anymore...we might be calling for anybody who can manoeuvre a couple of clapped out old tinnies to the south pacific...no experience required....sheesh!!!....and you think chances in a lottery are not great.....gotta love that Kiwi ingenuity...compared to this...beating the Scots at rugby was a piece of piss.....go the Hercs.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJTX Posted December 1, 2008 Report Share Posted December 1, 2008 On one hand we hear that the entire operation at the airport may take weeks to get back in order. Then we read in the Bangkok Post: Air cargo terminal to open soon VICHAYA PITSUWAN Transport Minister Santi Prompat plans aggressive moves to ease the burden of air freight operators by commanding police officers to clear the way to enter the cargo terminal in Suvarnabhumi airport as he aims to start operations by tomorrow. "The cargo terminal will be ready to provide services to the private sector in a day or two, and it will run at its full capacity," he said yesterday. Mr Santi said discussions with the Foreign Minister and business leaders yesterday revealed that the anti-government People's Alliance for Democracy (PAD) has not blocked all airport entrances. Mr Santi wants to use the one open entrance left to transport cargo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babyoiy Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Finally enlighten for what is kor ror 6!! Now I try to think who have said he has it... oh yeah.. I also have tiny lil brain... Brilliant! The red group block the Constitution court now. From now on, have to live with the slogan "Dont like it! Lets protest!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobbes Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Finally enlighten for what is kor ror 6!! Now I try to think who have said he has it... oh yeah.. I also have tiny lil brain... Brilliant! The red group block the Constitution court now. From now on, have to live with the slogan "Dont like it! Lets protest!" It does show a great advancement though from the "If it's suspect, burn it on a stake!" age. :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katoom Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Finally enlighten for what is kor ror 6!! Now I try to think who have said he has it... oh yeah.. I also have tiny lil brain... I have it :roll: (just so you know now I am single and looking) 8) Liar, liar, pants on fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POSES Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 .im looking for a world vacuum machine, does anyone know where to gets one? i have tried to look both at www.worldvacuummachine.com and www.bestworldvacuummachine.com but unfortunately kinda old model ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Ruby Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 im looking for a world vacuum machine, does anyone know where to gets one?i have tried to look both at www.worldvacuummachine.com and www.bestworldvacuummachine.com but unfortunately kinda old model ..... The green said : Gonna be hard work for the machine. Make sure you get the best and newest model to handle this job. :roll: :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
POSES Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 you know, Machines can operating by hand ? but only human needed manual book. im looking for a world vacuum machine, does anyone know where to gets one?i have tried to look both at www.worldvacuummachine.com and www.bestworldvacuummachine.com but unfortunately kinda old model ..... The green said : Gonna be hard work for the machine. Make sure you get the best and newest model to handle this job. :roll: :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunsnow Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 New Mandala lists some hallmarks on how the situation got where it was: http://rspas.anu.edu.au/rmap/newmandala/2008/12/02/new-mandala-stepping-stones-to-a-coup/ 20 August 2007: So, of the 45 million Thais registered to vote, 14.7 million have endorsed the proposed constitution. It is a victory of sorts (and key no vote campaigners have accepted it), but not an impressive one. The international reaction will be interesting to watch.3 September 2007: The explicit request of the military government was that Thai voters endorse a constitution; but the implicit request was that they endorse the future abrogation of that very document if it delivers a government unpalatable to those who wield the power to overthrow it. We can see the ideological groundwork for this being laid already with the usual tired claims about vote buying in relation to the substantial no vote in the northeast and the north. And these claims come from a government that spared little in terms of incentives and expenses for villagers mobilised as part of the yes vote campaign. 10 September 2007: Some members of the ruling regime in Thailand have reacted with predicable nationalist outrage to a European Union request to send observers to the forthcoming general election. Why such a defensive response? I don?t think it is because the junta holds out some hope of ballot-box manipulation. Quite the opposite. What the current regime fears most is that the Thai electoral process could be internationally recognised as being relatively clean. The ?sufficiency democracy? paradigm that they promote is based on the view that the electoral process is so compromised by money politics that it can be cast aside when it delivers an unpalatable result. Slandering the electoral process is the ideological bread and butter of the coup-endorsing Thai elite. With European Observers on the ground, the elite?s ongoing attempts to discredit electoral democracy will be all the more difficult. 23 December 2007: The central question for Thailand?s democracy is this: will the royalist-military elite that staged the September 2006 coup be willing to accept the election of Thaksin?s proxy party? Finding themselves back at square one after 15 months will be a bitter pill to swallow. Military action against the election result seems highly unlikely, though it cannot be ruled out. More likely is a concerted judicial attack on the elected government. This may take the form of a series of challenges to constituency results. The current military regime has worked hard to keep the spectre of electoral irregularity and vote buying alive and they may waste no time in arguing, as they did in relation to the Thaksin government, that the People Power victory was bought from an ill-informed and easily manipulated electorate. 1 January 2008: Now the issuing of ?red cards? to the successful People Power Party has started in earnest with speculation that up to 60 candidates may be disqualified ? As expected the common charge against disqualified candidates is the tired old charge of vote buying. This legal manoeuvring is just so predictable. ? Just how far the powers that be are willing to go in their current coup by stealth remains to be seen. They will do everything they can to muddy the electoral waters. 7 April 2008: For some so-called pro-democracy advocates, constitutional reform by a democratically elected government seems to be more alarming than the complete destruction of a constitution by military force. The outrage at the proposed amendment of Section 237 of the 2007 Constitution is motivated by anything but democratic principles. Section 237 allows the Constitutional Court to dissolve a political party if one of its executives is found guilty of electoral irregularity (or failing to act to prevent such an irregularity). Read the whole thing. But don't forget to read other sources too. etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 This whole airport thing could be solved easily... if the King, who supposedly is so revered, came out and told PAD to leave the airport and stop making innocent people suffer over a billionaire pissing contest I assume that thing would be empty in about 5minutes! So what is preventing him from doing this? The whole "stays out of politics" line doesn't cut it in this situation. The country is, according to some, on the verge of civil war and yet he has not made a statement. I realize he is 80something and may not be in great health but something is just not right about that.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katoom Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 Finally enlighten for what is kor ror 6!! Now I try to think who have said he has it... oh yeah.. I also have tiny lil brain... I have it :roll: (just so you know now I am single and looking) 8) Liar, liar, pants on fire. I'm on fire everyday babe.. "Woman on fire" me Lest we need to ask indeed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undercover Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 This whole airport thing could be solved easily... if the King, who supposedly is so revered, came out and told PAD to leave the airport and stop making innocent people suffer over a billionaire pissing contest I assume that thing would be empty in about 5minutes! So what is preventing him from doing this? The whole "stays out of politics" line doesn't cut it in this situation. The country is, according to some, on the verge of civil war and yet he has not made a statement. I realize he is 80something and may not be in great health but something is just not right about that.... When the leaders of PAD are freely roaming around Bangkok, setting up armed roadblocks, laughing in photos with the police chief the day after they drove cars into groups of policemen, and moving their people from Government House to the Airport without even the slightest token resistance from the police or the military, a reasonable person might conclude that PAD has been given carte blanche to do whatever they desire by someone quite powerful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagle Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 This whole airport thing could be solved easily... if the King, who supposedly is so revered, came out and told PAD to leave the airport and stop making innocent people suffer over a billionaire pissing contest I assume that thing would be empty in about 5minutes! So what is preventing him from doing this? The whole "stays out of politics" line doesn't cut it in this situation. The country is, according to some, on the verge of civil war and yet he has not made a statement. I realize he is 80something and may not be in great health but something is just not right about that.... When the leaders of PAD are freely roaming around Bangkok, setting up armed roadblocks, laughing in photos with the police chief the day after they drove cars into groups of policemen, and moving their people from Government House to the Airport without even the slightest token resistance from the police or the military, a reasonable person might conclude that PAD has been given carte blanche to do whatever they desire by someone quite powerful. Thailand is a Kingdom. Long live the King ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GM Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 This whole airport thing could be solved easily... if the King, who supposedly is so revered, came out and told PAD to leave the airport and stop making innocent people suffer over a billionaire pissing contest I assume that thing would be empty in about 5minutes! So what is preventing him from doing this? The whole "stays out of politics" line doesn't cut it in this situation. The country is, according to some, on the verge of civil war and yet he has not made a statement. I realize he is 80something and may not be in great health but something is just not right about that.... When the leaders of PAD are freely roaming around Bangkok, setting up armed roadblocks, laughing in photos with the police chief the day after they drove cars into groups of policemen, and moving their people from Government House to the Airport without even the slightest token resistance from the police or the military, a reasonable person might conclude that PAD has been given carte blanche to do whatever they desire by someone quite powerful. Well it stands to reason that if the Military ousted Thaksin then of course they are not going to be too happy to see his proxy elected and also not too shy to let any opposition group disrupt the gov't as mush as they please. But my comment was more to lack of communication from the King himself when it could obviously make an impact in this instance. For someone who is supposed to wield so much influence I guess I find it hard to understand why the King himself has not come out and made a statement. Any statement! Especially when so many ordinary Thais are being made to suffer. I find it hard to believe that the King himself would give carte blanche to cause this kind of hardship for the country and since it seems to be so important to this country, to lose so much face in the eyes of the int't community... but I'm not longtime resident or anything like so my perspective is that of an outsider looking in... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undercover Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 This whole airport thing could be solved easily... if the King, who supposedly is so revered, came out and told PAD to leave the airport and stop making innocent people suffer over a billionaire pissing contest I assume that thing would be empty in about 5minutes! So what is preventing him from doing this? The whole "stays out of politics" line doesn't cut it in this situation. The country is, according to some, on the verge of civil war and yet he has not made a statement. I realize he is 80something and may not be in great health but something is just not right about that.... When the leaders of PAD are freely roaming around Bangkok, setting up armed roadblocks, laughing in photos with the police chief the day after they drove cars into groups of policemen, and moving their people from Government House to the Airport without even the slightest token resistance from the police or the military, a reasonable person might conclude that PAD has been given carte blanche to do whatever they desire by someone quite powerful. Well it stands to reason that if the Military ousted Thaksin then of course they are not going to be too happy to see his proxy elected and also not too shy to let any opposition group disrupt the gov't as mush as they please. But my comment was more to lack of communication from the King himself when it could obviously make an impact in this instance. For someone who is supposed to wield so much influence I guess I find it hard to understand why the King himself has not come out and made a statement. Any statement! Especially when so many ordinary Thais are being made to suffer. I find it hard to believe that the King himself would give carte blanche to cause this kind of hardship for the country and since it seems to be so important to this country, to lose so much face in the eyes of the int't community... but I'm not longtime resident or anything like so my perspective is that of an outsider looking in... Well, there's not much anybody here can say about that. Literally. We'll see what he has to say soon enough this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunsnow Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 And it will only get worse after elephant pass away to the sacred elephant sanctuary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagle Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieLoveR Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 I just heard on Thai radio that the government has been dissolved...can a Thai confirm this? Sometimes those radio announcers talk too fast... not yet dude...PADs will stay calm for the King's BD on the 5th Dec only and will start again after that :evil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PieLoveR Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 eventhough...the airport can not open yet... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay7 Posted December 2, 2008 Report Share Posted December 2, 2008 International flights operating out of Don Meung this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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