Stramash Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 ..have a good one, tonight!..and remember...you're not a real DJ until you can scratch ..79 b0ll0x - been doing it 25 years and cant scratch - thats for hippity hoppity dj's!!! have a good one yourself and enjoy the fish pie... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagle Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 see thats it ---- its to scratch or not, or put eggs in the fish pie or some powdered substitute. So easily we are divided :shock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stramash Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 see thats it ---- its to scratch or not, or put eggs in the fish pie or some powdered substitute. So easily we are divided :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: powdered substitute????!!!!! Wars have started for less!!!! :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagle Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 see thats it ---- its to scratch or not, or put eggs in the fish pie or some powdered substitute. So easily we are divided :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: powdered substitute????!!!!! Wars have started for less!!!! :wink: People have been using powdered substitutes for a brain for years. SO you have a problem with that :shock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagle Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 how legit is the country Israel ?? Just because they think their "god" promissed them their land, they think they can force all natures of the universe??sorry, I am not anti-jewish, not anti-arab, but I know something is wrong here!!! Can't argue with you there There is no point in revisiting this part of the argument; whatever you believe about the original right of Isreal to exist, it does and nothing is going to change that. The only way forward is for the Arab nations to recognise their right to exist; that will be the first real and tangible step on the road to some type of long term solution!! Thats one of the problems. It keeps going back to the old arguments that started the whole thing. WIth its history of taking land from the person who toke the land from someone who toke the land its not going to be easy to stop the fighting. It's all about the history. Always has been and always will be. Only the blind or the unwilling are unable to see this. The extent of the bombing by Irael could do nothing but inflame the situation. Now retaliation suicide bombings etc and on and on. Been going like this for as long as I can remember and all on the evening news. I got no answers and can only pray for some resolve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeeMarc Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 sometimes i feel that the media and internet distracts us too much from our own lives and how, everyday, we can each make our "world" around us a better place. While being aware of the greater world around us, and the endless wars and troubles therein is a good thing, perhaps we should spend more time making ourselves better people and look at fixing, supporting and helping within our reach too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stramash Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 And oftentimes, you kill bad guy number one and bad guy number two or three or ten or two hundred steps up and is simply a greater monstrosity than the guy you just killed.What to do then...? HAPPY NEW YEAR ANYWAY YOU GENERALISING ARGUMENTATIVE BAS**RD!!! you and Beej are 2 sides of the same coin; you accuse him of being blinkered and generalising, yet you often do the same. 'you guys' 'the left' etc etc I consider myself a socialist but a realist socialist; if you took the best points of socialism and moulded them with the bits of capitalism that work then you would have a perfect system, but that aint gonna happen anytime soon... So what is wrong with my socialist principles being used to support worthy causes that are real? Or to oppose humam rights violations? I would 100% support wet work against leaders of terrorist networks; remember, one of your guys had Osama in his sights long before 9/11 and his superiors bottled it; and if Saddamn had been taken out, his idiot sons would not have lasted long either; yes, there would have been civil war, and perhaps even some form of partition within Iraq, but a lot less body bags would have been needed over the years. And your argument of 'new bad guys' filling the shoes of old ones is weak at best; you take out the leadership, the networks and the financing (and let's face it, most of yesterday's 'super hackers' now work for Governemnt agencies) and it would take them years to recover. But by Israels actions they are actually speeding up the recruiting process; it is easier for the mullahs to reel you in when your family have all been kille dby indiscriminate Israeli attacks. I guarantee you that the first half of 2009 will see an escalation in suicide attacks against Israeli targets, which will give the right wingers in the Knesset more justification for further oppression and attacks... and the wheel goes on turning... Not true Iain. We have killed numerous terrorist bad guys or they died of Natural causes and what happened? What happened when Yassar Arafat died? HAMAS. FATAH, the PLO/PLA completely split and went at each other and Israel with absolutely no limitations. The demons of Palestine no longer under the control of anyone. Took out Saddam and a hundred little crazies popped out. Imagine if we had simply shot the guy (and his family) in the head and left it at that. Just walked away. Think the chaos was bad with us there. It would have been far worse without us. The difference being that no one would have cared. No US against which to rail and rally or show your liberal "mettle." :wink: It's funny how that works. Arabs kill Arabs by the tens of thousands and more and no one really seems to care. Africans kill Africans by the hundreds of thousands. People quietly complain that no Western Power or the UN will step in and take action. Had any Western Power stepped in, they would have been defamed as a colonialist oppressor. In many cases by the same folks who were complaining of a lack of action in the first place. Though I should not be by now, I'm always left flabbergasted by this lunacy. Och, another one we will have to disagree on then!!! I don't rate the UN; UNICEF etc do good work, but when it comes to politics, wars, genocide, bombings etc, they are nothing but a toothless monster. And I agree that there would have been chaos had Iraq been left to itself after Saddam, but I would argue that it would be no worse than what we have now; a major difference being that the 'West' would not be targeted or seen as the aggressor. Nutters will always be replaced by new nutters, but coordinated covert operations against entire networks CAN set that network back years. And as I mentioned, funding should be a major target for anti-terrorist work, and with so much dome electronically these days, the banks and systems used by these organisations should be primary targets. Remember, the only reason the US/UK went after Saddam was to protect oil interests and, oh the irony, one of the worlds most oppressive regimes in Saudi Arabia. The Kurds were a side excuse and, had it been a primary one, the Turks would have to have been targeted also, as they have perpetrated as many atrocities against the Kurds, and again mainly with ordinance sold by us. I agree totally on Arafat. He was the Tito of the Arab world; holding together opposing factions as uneasy bedfellows. He had come to accept that coexistence was the only realistic victory achievable and I do wonder if he had come to that conclusion earlier, whether the situation would be at least less volatile than it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagle Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 He had come to accept that coexistence was the only realistic victory Would be nice if more realized this. I don't see how else the area could possible survive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagle Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 sometimes i feel that the media and internet distracts us too much from our own lives and how, everyday, we can each make our "world" around us a better place. While being aware of the greater world around us, and the endless wars and troubles therein is a good thing, perhaps we should spend more time making ourselves better people and look at fixing, supporting and helping within our reach too. Not only do they distract they deliberately steer our attentions to socially inert drama. I do try to avoid mainstream news as its often irrelevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagle Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 He had come to accept that coexistence was the only realistic victory Would be nice if more realized this. I don't see how else the area could possible survive. Realize what. That statement alone is simply untrue. coexistence is a highly attractive "victory" for probably 90% of the world. For others, it's easier or more lucrative or more in their interest to be violent and aggressive. Its the only victory if you want to live without the blowing each other up part which I think most who aren't involved in their conflict are hoping they can achieve. Their are always some who manipulate for their agenda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beej Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 I'd love to comment but sadly I'd be painted as a drug taking hippy thats never seen a war zone, or encountered suffering. Strange really considering my past and the little the new mouth knows about it. Give someone a gun and stick em in a war, I'm sure they will offer a balanced 2 sided view of a conflict, give them a flag to wave and that should seal it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagle Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 I'd love to comment but sadly I'd be painted as a drug taking hippy thats never seen a war zone, or encountered suffering. Strange really considering my past and the little the new mouth knows about it.Give someone a gun and stick em in a war, I'm sure they will offer a balanced 2 sided view of a conflict, give them a flag to wave and that should seal it. maybe the guy accusing you of drugs was drunk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beej Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 I'd love to comment but sadly I'd be painted as a drug taking hippy thats never seen a war zone, or encountered suffering. Strange really considering my past and the little the new mouth knows about it.Give someone a gun and stick em in a war, I'm sure they will offer a balanced 2 sided view of a conflict, give them a flag to wave and that should seal it. maybe the guy accusing you of drugs was drunk? Strangely as we are now mixing in the drugs with the topic, (always a favourite 'evil' of the right wing sobbing) The last time I was in that area one of my good friends and colleauges was shot and killed by an on duty member of the IDF, funny enough he was the one intoxicated with drugs at the time of the incident and not us. Sad really, but what would I know I was probably in a nice hotel high on marajuana without a care in the world, not scooping him up and debating who's going to call his family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagle Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 I'd love to comment but sadly I'd be painted as a drug taking hippy thats never seen a war zone, or encountered suffering. Strange really considering my past and the little the new mouth knows about it.Give someone a gun and stick em in a war, I'm sure they will offer a balanced 2 sided view of a conflict, give them a flag to wave and that should seal it. maybe the guy accusing you of drugs was drunk? Strangely as we are now mixing in the drugs with the topic, (always a favourite 'evil' of the right wing sobbing) The last time I was in that area one of my good friends and colleauges was shot and killed by an on duty member of the IDF, funny enough he was the one intoxicated with drugs at the time of the incident and not us. Sad really, but what would I know I was probably in a nice hotel high on marajuana without a care in the world, not scooping him up and debating who's going to call his family. I have friends over in Israel now playing music. They have been over there awhile and I do worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeeMarc Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 "kumbaya my Lord.... KUmbaya...." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeeMarc Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 "kumbaya my Lord.... KUmbaya...." I slip sometimes. you know, sometimes its worth taking a moment to appreciate those folks who could be bothered to stay in the arguments and brawls... kind of like having sparing partners on line... just to let out some aggression in a harmless silly way... good therapy sometimes...if just only for boredom relief Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stramash Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 I'd love to comment but sadly I'd be painted as a drug taking hippy Oh I would never have called you a hippy... :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stramash Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 one more ting:I hope you all have a happy and successful New Year and find peace, happiness and success in the coming times. Now back to the usual spite and recriminations. :wink: Oh no - 2009 is the year of harmony and hugs on TF. Even disagreements will be good natured. MM and Ciaran will stop swearing all the time, Beej and Jaya will kiss and make up, ZBH will cease being a belligerent eejit and we will all link arms and skip merrily down the yellow brick road... :twisted: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English_George Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 Oh no - 2009 is the year of harmony and hugs on TF. Even disagreements will be good natured. MM and Ciaran will stop swearing all the time, Beej and Jaya will kiss and make up, ZBH will cease being a belligerent eejit and we will all link arms and skip merrily down the yellow brick road... :twisted: ...Then what would be left for entertainment on TF? ...certainly not the chat rooms ...and the new male members' posing profile pics certainly won't hold my attention ..79 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English_George Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 ...that would just leave you Ian.... .......entertaining 40,000 people ...but...i think i saw Frankenfurter lingering around like a fart in a phone box earlier... ...maybe he can help ..79 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stramash Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 Oh no - 2009 is the year of harmony and hugs on TF. Even disagreements will be good natured. MM and Ciaran will stop swearing all the time, Beej and Jaya will kiss and make up, ZBH will cease being a belligerent eejit and we will all link arms and skip merrily down the yellow brick road... :twisted: ...Then what would be left for entertainment on TF? ...certainly not the chat rooms ...and the new male members' posing profile pics certainly won't hold my attention ..79 Why so cynical George? We shall gather round a virtual campfire and roast virtual marshmallows while exchanging stories of hope and happiness. Our joy will then spread from site to site; forums all over the world will have mass outbreaks of harmony, and a specially selected team from TF will be sent to solve the Middle East crisis... now go and hug someone, anyone; it can be a complete stranger in the street, but pass on that little feeling of hope, nurture it till it blooms and puts smiles on the faces all around... :twisted: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stramash Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 ...that would just leave you Ian...........entertaining 40,000 people ...but...i think i saw Frankenfurter lingering around like a fart in a phone box earlier... ...maybe he can help ..79 I fed the 500 so will entertain the 40,000 (John 3, Verses 7 -15) And please George my friend, Iain is spelt with 2 i's not 1. A minor error I know, but my name is important to me...(now go hug) :twisted: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English_George Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 ...12 days in England have turned me into a monster, ....I will be needing some extra special love for at least a week from Sunday the 4th.... ..PM me (single women only, 23-35) ..79 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English_George Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 I fed the 500 so will entertain the 40,000 (John 3, Verses 7 -15) ..Ok...what's going on? ..Love, hugs and bible quotes? ...Did you fall in a vat of whiskey on New Year and resurface as St.Iain of Hippo? ....mind you....I quite like the new St. Iain of Hippo ..79 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English_George Posted January 2, 2009 Report Share Posted January 2, 2009 ...maybe a baptism of whiskey would do some others some good too ..79 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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