Obama Haters

[eagle]

FraciousP wrote:

Anyway we never see budhist or christian driving a plane into a building, or suicide bombing in streets...

Christians have bombed abortion clinics in recent years and in the not so distant past white "christians attacked other races and tortured and killed them. Being Black in the US a hundred years ago was survival. As I said in a previous post I see the Muslim world as behind the west due to education. The west has been free to think and learn and become civilized sure we are. Now I don't now of any budhist or confuciust going wacko but christians have had many many.

Education is a dangerous thing to ignorant religions for sure.

do you mean Christians going wacko or Waco?? :?

its the new wacko

waco is the new wacko?? or wacko is the new waco?

:?

biatch

[Stramash]

FraciousP wrote:

Anyway we never see budhist or christian driving a plane into a building, or suicide bombing in streets...

Christians have bombed abortion clinics in recent years and in the not so distant past white "christians attacked other races and tortured and killed them. Being Black in the US a hundred years ago was survival. As I said in a previous post I see the Muslim world as behind the west due to education. The west has been free to think and learn and become civilized sure we are. Now I don't now of any budhist or confuciust going wacko but christians have had many many.

Education is a dangerous thing to ignorant religions for sure.

do you mean Christians going wacko or Waco?? :?

its the new wacko

waco is the new wacko?? or wacko is the new waco?

:?

biatch

***** is the new biatch?

:twisted:

[Mister Moobs]

JDaniels wrote:

the US Army and the Coalition forces are comprised of members of all religions.

Yea and the Iraqis that got bombed to sh*t for an oops were Muslim so deserved to be bombed including the christian Iraqis.

Lump them all together and kill. How many shooting back just joined in because their family got blown up in the initial bombing.

if you say so, I've not said that. There are levels of extremism. You take a Muslim and a Christian with the same level of faith. The Muslim you call moderate. The Christian you call fundamentalist and loonie.'

There is a difference in Muslim and Muslim extremist as much as Christian and Christian extremist. Bush is a Christian extremist. Hell I don't care what you call anyone just sayin. So is anyone who lives in Asia suspect of being a Muzzie.

If Bush is a Christian extremist then there are no moderate Muslims

JDaniels wrote:

Quote:

The Muslims who believe that Islam will one day rule the f*cking world are but the front show.

If that sounds extremist to you, then be careful. That is a central tenet of Muslim belief. It's a duty of all good Muslims to make that a reality. One World. One Religion.

And did you ever listen to hardcore christians talk about what they are expecting for our future. First of all only 144,000 survive and all the dead rise from the grave. Its like some cheap horror flix. And they believe it hard core. Hell if I had to choose I'd have to go with the 70 virgins before dawn of the dead. Face it both religions are sick to the core. No room to have your own view with hardcore christians or you will burn in Hell. I've had relatives cry because they thought I was going to hell. {b]How many of these folks are strapping on suicide vests and blowing their fellow believers up. How many of Baptists violently riot against Catholics and murder and maim other denominations as a lifestyle.

The thing is I personally don't think the mass of Islam is ready to join the extremists anymore then christians want to fight like the middle ages. Its a war manufactured by a few.

The problem with the Muslim world is the mass illiteracy and ignorance amongst them. I've said it before and I'll say it again. I'll be called a bigot or a racist for saying so. Muslim culture is highly pressured. It takes one (1) extremist in a room full of "moderate Muslims" to turn the whole room into faux extremists.

:shock:

I agree with you in some respects. What irks me about you and the other Western Liberals on this board (and elsewhere) is your hypersensitivity to one and disgust for the other. I hold both in contempt while you play Politically Correct favorites with one and completely discount the other with disgust and disdain.

How many Christian Churches are used as recruiting grounds for suicide bombers.

How many times have you heard of women being targeted for rape so as to turn them into candidates for suicide bombings.

How often are Christian women murdered for crimes against chastity.

How often are Christian women the victims of honor killings.

A moderate Muslim is comparable to a fundamentalist Christian.

Yet, you rail against Christians in general and defend Muslims as though you believe as they do. You defend the very thing concerning Muslims that you abhor about Christians.

It's a huge HUGE HUGE double standard.

The Police that I mentor and instruct are those who you think of as Moderate Muslims. Their mentality is that of the fundamentalist Christian that you abhor.

You make no sense.

You can't defend one and rail against the other. Well, you can. But you lose all credibility.

I think the base of Islam is a thousand years behind the west due to the lack of mass education and freedom of knowledge. They are just touching on womens lib but its coming. Horrid laws that I doubt will last the century. I don't know Islam enough to bash them so I don't except as the evidence is before me.

People are sheep and christians can be whipped into a frenzy with a good preacher ready to kill those nasty abortion Drs or Bomb a clinic. The Clan rallies around a burning cross and did horrid things to other humans in the name of Jesus.

Basic human traits seem to run thru us all. What power does to the Ego etc.

Show me where the KKK was a "Christian" organization. It was a racist organization. It was not supported overtly by mainstream Christian leaders across the globe. It was a strictly North American movement. There was no global KKK movement designed to bring back a caliphate like empire. Nor was it a movement designed to violently spread Christianity.

I don't even like the fuckers and I can see that.

The abolitionist movement was a distinctly Christian movement. But that doesn't jive with your Christian hate.

Amazing Grace. Written by whom? Why?

[Mister Moobs]

FraciousP wrote:

Anyway we never see budhist or christian driving a plane into a building, or suicide bombing in streets...

Christians have bombed abortion clinics in recent years and in the not so distant past white "christians attacked other races and tortured and killed them. Being Black in the US a hundred years ago was survival. As I said in a previous post I see the Muslim world as behind the west due to education. The west has been free to think and learn and become civilized sure we are. Now I don't now of any budhist or confuciust going wacko but christians have had many many.

Education is a dangerous thing to ignorant religions for sure.

Isolated incidents...

[eagle]

FraciousP wrote:

Anyway we never see budhist or christian driving a plane into a building, or suicide bombing in streets...

Christians have bombed abortion clinics in recent years and in the not so distant past white "christians attacked other races and tortured and killed them. Being Black in the US a hundred years ago was survival. As I said in a previous post I see the Muslim world as behind the west due to education. The west has been free to think and learn and become civilized sure we are. Now I don't now of any budhist or confuciust going wacko but christians have had many many.

Education is a dangerous thing to ignorant religions for sure.

Isolated incidents...

I get you point I am reaching but its a similarity in extreme behavior. Still Christianity has been as dominating as Islam in the past. I don't hate christians just am tired of christianity and it BS. I'm sure there are Muslims tired of Islam also. YOu put Christians in similar situations to muslims in the east like Gaza and watch the bombs blow. Look at Ireland or was that isolated also.

[maidai]

yep, interesting dicussion, here are my thoughts:

KKK = Christians

Nazi's = Christians

Southern whites in the past used the bible to justify Slavery, etc etc etc....

but still not as bad as extreme muslims, even average muslims have some chip on their shoulders it seems.

[eagle]

JDaniels wrote:

Amazing Grace. Written by whom? Why?

He was smitten with the lord but that was one man having a religious experience. If I grew up having Islam held in my face I would probably feel the same about it. Islam seems a thousand years behind Christianity.

[eagle]

yep, interesting dicussion, here are my thoughts:

KKK = Christians

Nazi's = Christians

Southern whites in the past used the bible to justify Slavery, etc etc etc....

but still not as bad as extreme muslims, even average muslims have some chip on their shoulders it seems.

See that view of average muslims I don't have to judge. But I can't be called to rally against Islam because of 911. Go get them extremists you can sell me on. Get down on Muzzies because of them I can't get behind. I have a history with christianity. I'm still amazed at its prevalence in my life growing up.

[Mister Moobs]

yep, interesting dicussion, here are my thoughts:

KKK = Christians

Nazi's = Christians

Southern whites in the past used the bible to justify Slavery, etc etc etc....

but still not as bad as extreme muslims, even average muslims have some chip on their shoulders it seems.

Europeans used the Bible to justify slavery. Not only Southern Whites. The whole of the "civilized" world prior to the early 1800s.

Islam is still used today, in some parts of Africa and the Middle East, to justify slavery. It's in the Qu'ran.

Prior to the 1700s, Slaver was common place. Whites were enslaved all over the world as well as Africans. As were Asians and every other race.

Slavery has existed since the beginning of "civilization." It's the history of the world. In some parts of the world, slavery still exists. Women are traded as sex slaves in every country in the so called developed world as well as the non-developed countries.

The Nazis were a political party of Germany. It was not a Christian association.

[Mister Moobs]

JDaniels wrote:

Amazing Grace. Written by whom? Why?

He was smitten with the lord but that was one man having a religious experience. If I grew up having Islam held in my face I would probably feel the same about it. Islam seems a thousand years behind Christianity.

The song Amazing Grace was inspired by and written about the (hoped for) end of the Slave Trade.

John Newton, the author of the lyrics to Amazing Grace, was born in 1725 in Wapping, London, United Kingdom.[1] Despite the powerful message of "Amazing Grace," Newton's religious beliefs initially lacked conviction; his youth was marked by religious confusion and a lack of moral self-control and discipline.[1]

After a brief time in the Royal Navy, Newton began his career in slave trading. The turning point in Newton's spiritual life was a violent storm that occurred one night while at sea. Moments after he left the deck, the crewman who had taken his place was swept overboard. Although he manned the vessel for the remainder of the tempest, he later commented that, throughout the tumult, he realized his helplessness and concluded that only the grace of God could save him. Prodded by what he had read in Thomas à Kempis' Imitation of Christ, Newton took the first step toward accepting faith.[1]

These incidents and his 1750 marriage to Mary Catlett changed Newton significantly. On his slave voyages, he encouraged the sailors under his charge to pray. He also began to ensure that every member of his crew treated their human cargo with gentleness and concern. Nevertheless, it would be another 40 years until Newton openly challenged the trafficking of slaves.[1]

Some three years after his marriage, Newton suffered a stroke that prevented him from returning to sea; in time, he interpreted this as another step in his spiritual voyage. He assumed a post in the Customs Office in the port of Liverpool and began to explore Christianity more fully. As Newton attempted to experience all the various expressions of Christianity, it became clear that he was being called to the ministry. Since Newton lacked a university degree, he could not be ordained through normal channels. However, the landlord of the parish at Olney was so impressed with the letters Newton had written about his conversion that he offered the church to Newton; he was ordained in June 1764.[1]

In Olney, the new curate met the poet William Cowper, also a newly-converted Christian. Their friendship led to a spiritual collaboration that completed the inspiration for "Amazing Grace," the poem Newton most likely wrote in Kineton, Warwickshire[citation needed] around Christmas 1772.[1] The lyrics are based on his reflections on an Old Testament text he was preparing to preach on, adding his perspective about his own conversion while on his slave ship, the Greyhound, in 1748.

Newton's lyrics have become a favourite for Christians, largely because the hymn vividly and briefly sums up the doctrine of divine grace. The lyrics are based on 1 Chronicles 17:16-17, a prayer of King David in which he marvels at God's choosing him and his house. Newton apparently wrote this for use in a sermon he preached on this passage on New Year's Day 1773, and for which he left his sermon notes, which correspond to the flow of the lyrics[2]. (He entitled the piece "Faith's review and expectation.")

[Mister Moobs]

See that view of average muslims I don't have to judge. But I can't be called to rally against Islam because of 911. Go get them extremists you can sell me on. Get down on Muzzies because of them I can't get behind. I have a history with christianity. I'm still amazed at its prevalence in my life growing up.

9-11 and the subsequent events concerning Islam and Muslims shaped your world view concerning Islam and Muslims.

I don't base my opinions merely on 9-11. There are 1,388 years of history in the story of Islam.

I base my opinion on the whole blood thirsty chapter.

Much as I base my opinion on Christianity on it's history since the birth of Christ, the early following and the subsequent unholy alliance with Rome and all that has happened after.

The key is to see individuals. I always see individuals and take them as they come whether they be Muslim, Jew, Buddhist, Christian, Euro, Asian, African or whatever. Some Muslims are pious and holy without being overbearing or pushy. Some Muslims could care less about the Qu'ran or Mohammad. They just happened to be borne into a Muslim family. They understand that Islam is their religion and their way of life and that not all are interested. Many Christians out there are much the same. One can add Buddhists and Hindus and every other religion to this.

Others wish to convert the masses. They see it as their life mission. Some think that peace is the way to do so. Others feel that violence is an acceptable form of conversion and consequences be damned. The World will be Muslim.

I see very few Christians with this mentality out there. I see an example of this attitude amongst Muslims so frequently that it can not be mere coincidence or accident.

And, yes, the key is education. The problem is that their leaders do not want them to have "western" educations. This erodes the power of the despots and dictators and petty monarchs that rule those areas of the world.

My opinion is that religion as organized institutions should be abolished. Religion should be a personal, individual choice of faith or spirituality. The world would be much better off for having moved in this direction.

And that opinion I have about all religions.

[Mister Moobs]

FraciousP wrote:

Anyway we never see budhist or christian driving a plane into a building, or suicide bombing in streets...

Christians have bombed abortion clinics in recent years and in the not so distant past white "christians attacked other races and tortured and killed them. Being Black in the US a hundred years ago was survival. As I said in a previous post I see the Muslim world as behind the west due to education. The west has been free to think and learn and become civilized sure we are. Now I don't now of any budhist or confuciust going wacko but christians have had many many.

Education is a dangerous thing to ignorant religions for sure.

Isolated incidents...

I get you point I am reaching but its a similarity in extreme behavior. Still Christianity has been as dominating as Islam in the past. I don't hate christians just am tired of christianity and it BS. I'm sure there are Muslims tired of Islam also. YOu put Christians in similar situations to muslims in the east like Gaza and watch the bombs blow. Look at Ireland or was that isolated also.

Christians and Jews ARE in similar positions ALL OVER THE MIDDLE EAST.

And they are beginning to feel similarly endangered in the West.

And, oddly enough, I can see how they feel this way.

People with similar ideology to yours do no reach across the aisle. You defend a worse strain of religion while attacking theirs. All in the name of diversity and multi-culturalism. Yet, you do not seek to give Christians any rights in this multi-cultural universe or New World Order that you wish to create.

Christianity is under attack.

As an outsider, I can see it clearly.

[Neo]

Nazi's = Christians

Quite correct. Many people don't know about that aspect of the Nazi movement. Some people assume they were posing as Christians to gain popularity but it's clear that the Nazi philiosophy was profoundly Christian.

"I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty Creator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord's work."

- Adolf Hitler, Speech, Reichstag, 1936

The party as such represents the standpoint of a positive Christianity, without owing itself to a particular confession...."

- Article 20 of the program of the German Workers' Party (later named the National Socialist German Workers' Party, NSDAP)

As long as leadership from above was not lacking, the people fulfilled their duty and obligation overwhelmingly. Whether Protestant pastor or Catholic priest, both together and particularly at the first flare, there really existed in both camps but a single holy German Reich, for whose existence and future each man turned to his own heaven.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 3

And the founder of Christianity made no secret indeed of his estimation of the Jewish people. When He found it necessary, He drove those enemies of the human race out of the Temple of God; because then, as always, they used religion as a means of advancing their commercial interests. But at that time Christ was nailed to the Cross for his attitude towards the Jews; whereas our modern Christians enter into party politics and when elections are being held they debase themselves to beg for Jewish votes. They even enter into political intrigues with the atheistic Jewish parties against the interests of their own Christian nation.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 11

Can't be bothered searching for the rather spectacular Nazi-Christian war posters they made in WWII, but they were quite something.

[PJack]

Show me where the KKK was a "Christian" organization. It was a racist organization. It was not supported overtly by mainstream Christian leaders across the globe. It was a strictly North American movement. There was no global KKK movement designed to bring back a caliphate like empire. Nor was it a movement designed to violently spread Christianity.

I don't even like the fuckers and I can see that.

I believe it was me who made the original KKK analogy or reference and so I will explain further.

Here is the analogy:

islamic extremism (a la 9/11 and suicide boming etc.) is to Islam

as

KKK is to Christianity

[Mister Moobs]

Nazi's = Christians

Quite correct. Many people don't know about that aspect of the Nazi movement.

"I believe today that I am acting in the sense of the Almighty Creator. By warding off the Jews I am fighting for the Lord's work."

- Adolf Hitler, Speech, Reichstag, 1936

The party as such represents the standpoint of a positive Christianity, without owing itself to a particular confession...."

- Article 20 of the program of the German Workers' Party (later named the National Socialist German Workers' Party, NSDAP)

As long as leadership from above was not lacking, the people fulfilled their duty and obligation overwhelmingly. Whether Protestant pastor or Catholic priest, both together and particularly at the first flare, there really existed in both camps but a single holy German Reich, for whose existence and future each man turned to his own heaven.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 3

And the founder of Christianity made no secret indeed of his estimation of the Jewish people. When He found it necessary, He drove those enemies of the human race out of the Temple of God; because then, as always, they used religion as a means of advancing their commercial interests. But at that time Christ was nailed to the Cross for his attitude towards the Jews; whereas our modern Christians enter into party politics and when elections are being held they debase themselves to beg for Jewish votes. They even enter into political intrigues with the atheistic Jewish parties against the interests of their own Christian nation.

- Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf, Vol. 1 Chapter 11

Can't be bothered searching for the rather spectacular Nazi-Christian war posters they made in WWII, but they were quite something.

Ramblings of a mad man.

Never was Hitler recognized as a representative of Christianity.

Tantamount to saying the Genghis Khan was a representative of Buddhism. Ridiculous.

[Neo]

Ramblings of a mad man.

Never was Hitler recognized as a representative of Christianity.

Tantamount to saying the Genghis Khan was a representative of Buddhism. Ridiculous.

I'll be impressed when this guy does something other than make baseless contradictions of everyone else's posts. Way to kill a discussion. Anyone who ever studied the Third Reich (and I did) knows that Christianity was a fundamental aspect of Nazism, both in their philosophy and in their appeal to the German nation. I guess this thread will soon devolve into calling people Nazi's. :roll:

[Stramash]

Ramblings of a mad man.

Never was Hitler recognized as a representative of Christianity.

Tantamount to saying the Genghis Khan was a representative of Buddhism. Ridiculous.

I'll be impressed when this guy does something other than make baseless contradictions of everyone else's posts. Way to kill a discussion. Anyone who ever studied the Third Reich (and I did) knows that Christianity was a fundamental aspect of Nazism, both in their philosophy and in their appeal to the German nation. I guess this thread will soon devolve into calling people Nazi's. :roll:

While I agree with Neo on the strong links between Nazis and Chrisitanity, I would say that it was another example of religion being used purely for selfish ends. Now we can also consider that a former member of the Nazi Youth is now pope (despite his protestations) and that the Catholic Chruch heavily colluded in helping war criminals escape.

But I also agree with Jackboot Daniels that he was NOT a representative of Chritianity. Hitler and his minions merely saw Chrisitanity as a useful tool for bringing the mass of working class people within the Nazi sphere of influence.

They started with shovels, then moved to crosses, accumulating symbols of the masses to swell their ranks.

In many ways you could draw parallels with early Chrisitanity itself; adopting symbolism, festivals, figures etc from the other belief systems of the time in order to gain poular support.

[Neo]

he was NOT a representative of Chritianity.

Of course. And neither was Churchill, or Bush for that matter.

Hitler and his minions merely saw Chrisitanity as a useful tool for bringing the mass of working class people within the Nazi sphere of influence.

That's a commonly held belief which has merit, but I think the huge amount of philosophical emphasis that Hitler put on Christianity, and the underlying faith of the German nation (and hence the Nazis themselves) attests to it being more than just a propaganda tool for them.

[Stramash]

he was NOT a representative of Chritianity.

Of course. And neither was Churchill, or Bush for that matter.

Hitler and his minions merely saw Chrisitanity as a useful tool for bringing the mass of working class people within the Nazi sphere of influence.

That's a commonly held belief which has merit, but I think the huge amount of philosophical emphasis that Hitler put on Christianity, and the underlying faith of the German nation (and hence the Nazis themselves) attests to it being more than just a propaganda tool for them.

am actually surprised at your comments here Neo, giving that you say you have actually studied Christianity and the Nazis.

Yet between 1932 and 1944, almost 3 million Germans left the church (both Catholic and Protestant)

Neither Goebbels nor Hitler had attended Mass since before 1933.

Certainly there was a general disaffection with christianity in post WWI Germany, a disaffection that the Nazis exploited.

The German Christians, the most powerful Church group after 1932, was closely aligned with the Nazi movement, and saw Hitler as the completion of reformation, as well as ignoring the old testament and dismissing baptised Jews.

And to be fair, Hitler put as much philosophical emphasis on Nothern European paganism as he did on Christianity. As some commentsators have said, they created a political religion; 'a cult of fuhrer', and borrowed from various religions and quasi-occult beliefes to build their image and power.

I dont think we can dismiss the strong links to the church (while remembering that the primary base of church power supported Nazi ideology anyway) but we equally cannot say they are of primary importance.

The growth of the Nazis was more about the identification and exploitation of a disaffected working class suffering both the effects of a defeated and humbled post war nation and a world wide economic slump.

Remember the shovellers!

[Mister Moobs]

Ramblings of a mad man.

Never was Hitler recognized as a representative of Christianity.

Tantamount to saying the Genghis Khan was a representative of Buddhism. Ridiculous.

I'll be impressed when this guy does something other than make baseless contradictions of everyone else's posts. Way to kill a discussion. Anyone who ever studied the Third Reich (and I did) knows that Christianity was a fundamental aspect of Nazism, both in their philosophy and in their appeal to the German nation. I guess this thread will soon devolve into calling people Nazi's. :roll:

I'm going to ignore your attempt to start yet another fight with me. Now play nice or don't play at all. I've been in this thread for quite a bit and nothing untoward going on until you appeared with your personal grudge.

[Mister Moobs]

Show me where the KKK was a "Christian" organization. It was a racist organization. It was not supported overtly by mainstream Christian leaders across the globe. It was a strictly North American movement. There was no global KKK movement designed to bring back a caliphate like empire. Nor was it a movement designed to violently spread Christianity.

I don't even like the fuckers and I can see that.

I believe it was me who made the original KKK analogy or reference and so I will explain further.

Here is the analogy:

islamic extremism (a la 9/11 and suicide boming etc.) is to Islam

as

KKK is to Christianity

no, the KKK was not as large or as organized and neither was i global.

You could make that comparison to between Islamic Extremism and German Nazism. Neither did the KKK have apocalyptic plans to conquer the world and turn everyone to their philosophy/religion.

[Mister Moobs]

Ramblings of a mad man.

Never was Hitler recognized as a representative of Christianity.

Tantamount to saying the Genghis Khan was a representative of Buddhism. Ridiculous.

I'll be impressed when this guy does something other than make baseless contradictions of everyone else's posts. Way to kill a discussion. Anyone who ever studied the Third Reich (and I did) knows that Christianity was a fundamental aspect of Nazism, both in their philosophy and in their appeal to the German nation. I guess this thread will soon devolve into calling people Nazi's. :roll:

While I agree with Neo on the strong links between Nazis and Chrisitanity, I would say that it was another example of religion being used purely for selfish ends. Now we can also consider that a former member of the Nazi Youth is now pope (despite his protestations) and that the Catholic Chruch heavily colluded in helping war criminals escape.

But I also agree with Jackboot Daniels that he was NOT a representative of Chritianity. Hitler and his minions merely saw Chrisitanity as a useful tool for bringing the mass of working class people within the Nazi sphere of influence.

They started with shovels, then moved to crosses, accumulating symbols of the masses to swell their ranks.

In many ways you could draw parallels with early Chrisitanity itself; adopting symbolism, festivals, figures etc from the other belief systems of the time in order to gain poular support.

I agree with Iain here.

Symbols are powerful. Hitler was more and more insane as the years progressed. Mad people are drawn to the occult. And Hitler's affinity to Christianity bent more towards some "voodoo" Christianity than mainstream Christianity.

Every Western Nation has claimed the power of God and right since the beginning of Christianity. The Romans of Constantine on up to the Euro Monarchs and their "divine right of Kings" to Abe Lincoln and Jefferson Davis to Churchill to Degaulle in Vietnam to George Bush in the Persian Gulf War to his son in the Wars in Iraq and Afghansitan.

Doesn't mean that any of them were "Christian Wars."

[beej]

no, the KKK was not as large or as organized and neither was i global.

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Thats because American red necks are ******* retarded!

[Stramash]

no, the KKK was not as large or as organized and neither was i global.

]

Thats because American red necks are f*cking retarded!

another concise yet intelligent statement from world geopolitical expert of the year beejoir...

[Mister Moobs]

no, the KKK was not as large or as organized and neither was i global.

]

Thats because American red necks are f*cking retarded!

Hey Hey Hey....here we go again

same old **** again

marching down the avenue

ten more days and we'll be through....