GoodKarma Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 Roman Polanski French - Polish director Latest news BBC Polanski facing more time in jail. Polanski capture 'always planned' . Roman Polanski "in fighting mood". Outcry over Polanski detention. Roman Polanski in Swiss detention. Judge turned down Polanski's request. Polanski victim urges to end case. Arnold Swartzenegger say's "no pardon for Polanski." -celebuz The Saga... Roman Polanski the legendary Polish - French director. Sometimes dubbed as "Films dark prince" because of his controversial past. He is the director of famous box office smash hit films such as Chinatown, Rosemary's baby, and the recently critically acclaimed The Pianist he is still being held in detention in Switzerland and facing extradition on a 31 year old US arrest warrant from a 1977 conviction of unlawful sex with a 13 year old. On tuesday US prosecutors said the 76 - year old has been on a Interpol "most wanted list" for years Polanski's jaded controversial past started 31 years ago while at Jack Nicholson's Los Angeles house he was charged with having unlawful sex with a 13-year old girl. Polanski pleaded guilty to the charges but maintaining that the girl was sexually experienced and had consented he spent 42 days in prison undergoing psychiatric tests, but in 1978 he jumped bail fled from the US - first to Britain and then immediately to France. Polanski has lived in France ever since, unable to return to the US for fear of arrest and imprisonment. He even avoided making films in the UK because of the danger of extradition. His Oscar for The Pianist was collected by Harrison Ford. Polanski's attempts to have the case dismissed failed in 2009, when a court in Los Angeles rejected his request to have a hearing heard outside the Los Angeles court system Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagle Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 I will let his fate in the hands of the court. My only wish is I DON"T HAVE TO HEAR ABOUT IT !!! but to the media it is a big juicy steak yummmmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beej Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 Turns out the fucker might not have paid the 500,000 to the girl he raped. I feel sorry for her in this whole saga, the media are ******* animals when they get a story like this, and she just wants it all to be forgotten, her kids and her husband are being hounded for something that is so dark its untrue. Personally I hope he gets extradited and spends the rest of his life in a sex offenders institute or a high security jail. ******* low life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakeGeneve Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 Yes it is all very sad for her and her family and full points for coming out and expressing forgiveness. He should go back and face the music. He pleaded guilty to having unlawful sex with a minor after a plea bargin where mutiple charges including rape were dropped. So he pleaded guilty to the prosecution facts that he drugged and had raped an unconcious 13 yr old girl. Even for the free love, drug taking ecesses of the 70s that was completley unacceptable! As part of the plea bargin he expected to be sentenced to time served, 42 days, but then fled when reportedly the judge was considering a longer custodial sentence. Had he stayed he probably would have served 6-24 months and then continued his career. Now he is looking at a much longer period of time given he has evaded justice for so long. I don't care if your the Dalai Lama or have won the Noble Peace prize you have to face the consequences of your actions when you commit a very serious crime. I do like many of his movies but great artistic merit and a very traumatic personal history does not give you immunity from raping young girls. And his art has nothing to do with the crime. There is a very interesting debate discussion on artists and their criminality at theNYTs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodKarma Posted October 4, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 thanks for sharing the NYC times link Lake -- I agree polanski shoulda faced the music a long time ago..and like beej said the newly released court info doesn't even state that he paid the $500,000 settlement. Polanski also was linked to have a relationship with Natasha Kinski when she was 15. p.s. I hope TF doesn't have any Dalai Lama fans on here -- his holiness is similiar to the pope ya know -- i'm not so sure they would like his name used in such a context...but irronically the Dalai Lama is a fugitive from his own country he fled to India from the Chinese. His only serious crime was being born....It is against the law to be himself... maybe that is what you meant. :? Dalai Lama Nobel peace prize acceptance speech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stramash Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 One other point; Polanski was/is guilty and should face jail time (esp given the drugging and sodomising aspects) BUT... what about this question; WHO TAKES THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR ALLOWING THEIR 13 YEAR OLD DAUGHTER TO BE IN THAT POSITION IN THE FIRST PLACE???? As far as I'm concerned, the parents should have faced charges of child endangerment... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJack Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 that she was underage is not disputed. but i seem to recall she was reportedly sexually experienced, that she consented to the sex, that her mother told Polanski that the foto shoot was ok and that the girl would do nude shots and a lot more, that the mother knew she was alone with him late into the night and that they immediately blackmailed him afterwards do seem to raise some extenuating circumstances. I would not be so quick to string the guy up and it has nothing to do with his art. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stramash Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 Whoopi Goldberg claims Manson not guilty of ?murder-murder? Following her claims that film director Roman Polanski is not guilty of ?rape-rape?, Whoopi Goldberg has today claimed that convicted killer Charles Manson is not guilty of ?murder-murder?. Goldberg has received significant condemnation due to her defence of Polanski, but she remained unrepentant when questioned about Charles Manson. ?It was the 60s ? it was a different time with different rules,? explained the actress. ?I?m not saying it wasn?t ?murder? in the strictest sense of the word, but it wasn?t ?murder-murder?, was it?? ?You can?t judge a series of brutal slayings where the victims? blood was used to write occult messages at the crime scenes by today?s moral standards.? Defence Goldberg also claimed that because Manson had written a few songs and perhaps once vaguely knew Dennis Wilson from the Beach Boys, he was an artist and therefore immune to prosecution unlike ?all the normal people?. Goldberg was not finished, she continued, ?If you think about it, Dr. Harold Shipman wasn?t a ?serial killer-serial killer?, really.? ?I?m not even sure you can still call Osama bin Laden a ?terrorist-terrorist? to be honest.? However, Goldberg?s critics have been quick to point out that Sister Act 2 was definitely ?****-****?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beej Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 I watched an interview with her the other day, man she's just getting more and more mouthy and shouting about wrong **** just to get noticed and seem, errr outlandish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJack Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 he pleaded guilty to the prosecution facts that he drugged and had raped an unconcious 13 yr old girl. Even for the free love, drug taking ecesses of the 70s that was completley unacceptable! but what about the benefits of quaaludes? they can help reduce the gag reflex for the girl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakeGeneve Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 that she was underage is not disputed.but i seem to recall she was reportedly sexually experienced, that she consented to the sex, I don't see what relevence of her reportedly being sexually experienced has to do with anything? Sounds a bit like the old rape defence, 'well she is known to sleep around so she was asking for it'. (I am not saying that your suggesting that BTW). The consent issue is also irrelevent as the crime is one of strict liability. If a child is under a certain age, 15 I believe Calafornia at the time, then any sex by an adult or older child with a child under 15 is a crime. Doesn't matter is she loved him, they married afterwards or later had children together. It is a public policy criminal law principle in many jurisdictions that children need to protected from sexual predators with such laws . Also, reportedly she was drugged and unconscious so I don't undertand how consent could have been given even if it important in the case; which it is not. I noticed on the NYTs a link to the court transcript so that would clarify the drugging issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagle Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 Hollywood and the area is such a decadent sleezepit that it could use a beacon of moral boundary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyJellyfish Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 Whoopi Goldberg claims Manson not guilty of ?murder-murder?Following her claims that film director Roman Polanski is not guilty of ?rape-rape?, . Didn't Ms Goldberg come out a few years ago with revelations of having had and enyoyed sex at age 12?! And yes, Manson was a creep but actually, he was not present at the killings, just like no mafia, KKK or Republican boss was present at the Kennedy shooting. But only Oswald was an official suspect. And yes, Ms Kinski had sex at a very young age, <13, with her dad Klaus K! Dr Drew Pinski estimates 30% of girls have had incest! Official State of California statistics show that saome 30% of high school studens have had sexual expiriences of some kind before age 12! Hey, Mr Polanski should have taken his date 150 mile South from LA to Tijuana, Mexico, where the age of sexual consent is 12, just as in Spain and the Netherlands and a string of other countries. In most civilized nations it's somewhere around 13-16, except in USA where it is at a hypocritical 18. In Thailand there is no official minimum age limit, BTW. The Polanski case was a set-up for extortion if i ever saw one. Similar to the Michael Jackson cases. Another, legalistic point: Isn't there a statute of limitations in the oh so free and just US of A? In my country it is 25 years, except for murder. On the rape by drugging issue: If all the Yanks who ever got laid by getting their dates high and/or drunk were prosecuted, they'd have half the US population in the concentration camps they dare call "correctional institutions". And for conspiracy theorists: Looks like the Swiss legal establishment are kissing the USA's prudish-authoritarian arses to get them off their backs about the tax haven issues with their anonymous bank accounts (horror of horrors!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stramash Posted October 4, 2009 Report Share Posted October 4, 2009 The Polanski case was a set-up for extortion if i ever saw one. Similar to the Michael Jackson cases. Another legalistic point: Isn't there a statute of limitations in the oh so free and just US of A? had the crime taken place today, with our celebrity driven world and the media sensationalist exploitation of 'kiss and tell' type stories, then perhaps you may have some grounds. But, regardless of whether she was experienced or not, this was paedophilia, including the drugging and sodomising of a 13 year old girl. He, and the parents that allowed her to be there, should be punished. As to the statute of limitations; I may be wrong, but does that not only apply to the trying of a case? With Polanski, he had pleaded guilty and was awaiting sentencing when he absconded, therefore there is no statute as he is convicted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiaranM Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 that she was underage is not disputed.but i seem to recall she was reportedly sexually experienced, that she consented to the sex, that her mother told Polanski that the foto shoot was ok and that the girl would do nude shots and a lot more, that the mother knew she was alone with him late into the night and that they immediately blackmailed him afterwards do seem to raise some extenuating circumstances. I would not be so quick to string the guy up and it has nothing to do with his art. have u read her testimony ?? and despite all else it was a 43/44 year old guy getting a 13 year old child drunk and drugged up and then f**king her up the ass ..... too right the ***** should be in jail !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodKarma Posted October 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 jay leno and chris rock on polanski http://www.examiner.com/x-23871-Jay-Leno-Examiner~y2009m10d4-Chris-Rock-blasts-Roman-Polanski-on-The-Jay-Leno-Show-video it was funny what he said about osama.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiaranM Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Whoopi Goldberg claims Manson not guilty of ?murder-murder?Following her claims that film director Roman Polanski is not guilty of ?rape-rape?, . Didn't Ms Goldberg come out a few years ago with revelations of having had and enyoyed sex at age 12?! And yes, Manson was a creep but actually, he was not present at the killings, just like no mafia, KKK or Republican boss was present at the Kennedy shooting. But only Oswald was an official suspect. And yes, Ms Kinski had sex at a very young age, <13, with her dad Klaus K! Dr Drew Pinski estimates 30% of girls have had incest! Official State of California statistics show that saome 30% of high school studens have had sexual expiriences of some kind before age 12! Hey, Mr Polanski should have taken his date 150 mile South from LA to Tijuana, Mexico, where the age of sexual consent is 12, just as in Spain and the Netherlands and a string of other countries. In most civilized nations it's somewhere around 13-16, except in USA where it is at a hypocritical 18. In Thailand there is no official minimum age limit, BTW. The Polanski case was a set-up for extortion if i ever saw one. Similar to the Michael Jackson cases. Another, legalistic point: Isn't there a statute of limitations in the oh so free and just US of A? In my country it is 25 years, except for murder. On the rape by drugging issue: If all the Yanks who ever got laid by getting their dates high and/or drunk were prosecuted, they'd have half the US population in the concentration camps they dare call "correctional institutions". And for conspiracy theorists: Looks like the Swiss legal establishment are kissing the USA's prudish-authoritarian arses to get them off their backs about the tax haven issues with their anonymous bank accounts (horror of horrors!). u really r a dodgy old f**ker ... aren't U !!!!!!!!! i'm surprised ppl like U r allowed on this site !!! :evil: :evil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beej Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Scary stuff..... so its fine for a 30 year old guy to drug and rape a 13 year old girl now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beej Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 My Basic Information *Shudders. Real Name / Nickname Jerry Hoss Age / Gender 58 / Male Sexuality Straight Relationship Status Divorced Ethnicity Mixed European Interested in Meeting Women Looking For Anything Location Country Germany City Bonn & San Diego About Me Hello! Do you want to live, work or study in Germany? Do you want our good and free education and health care for your child(ren)? Come visit at my condo in Bonn and see what develops. -- Seeking only clean living (no smoke, no alcohol, no drugs), educated lady with small kid(s) to adopt and live happily ever after in Germany or California (up to you). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Scary stuff..... so its fine for a 30 year old guy to drug and rape a 13 year old girl now? For those who may not remember, Jerry has posted before about how pedophilia is a good thing. He also uses TF to look for women who have young children and invites them to live with him. Admin may wish to investigate further. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiaranM Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Scary stuff..... so its fine for a 30 year old guy to drug and rape a 13 year old girl now? For those who may not remember, Jerry has posted before about how pedophilia is a good thing. He also uses TF to look for women who have young children and invites them to live with him. Admin may wish to investigate further. i'm surprised he's still on the site ..... dirty old sleazebag !!! :evil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyphil247 Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Scary stuff..... so its fine for a 30 year old guy to drug and rape a 13 year old girl now? At the time Roman Polanski was 45 !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beej Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Scary stuff..... so its fine for a 30 year old guy to drug and rape a 13 year old girl now? At the time Roman Polanski was 45 !!! Well that makes it ok then.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakeGeneve Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 The Polanski case was a set-up for extortion if i ever saw one. Similar to the Michael Jackson cases. Another legalistic point: Isn't there a statute of limitations in the oh so free and just US of A? In my country it is 25 years, except for murder. As to the statute of limitations; I may be wrong, but does that not only apply to the trying of a case? With Polanski, he had pleaded guilty and was awaiting sentencing when he absconded, therefore there is no statute as he is convicted. As a general rule, statute of limitations applies to the period in which a person can be charged for an offence. Clearly, it does not apply here. Also, quite rightly for serious offences such murder, rape or torture - as a general principal in common law countries - there is no statute of limitations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakeGeneve Posted October 5, 2009 Report Share Posted October 5, 2009 Whoopi Goldberg claims Manson not guilty of ?murder-murder?Following her claims that film director Roman Polanski is not guilty of ?rape-rape?, . Official State of California statistics show that saome 30% of high school studens have had sexual expiriences of some kind before age 12! In Thailand there is no official minimum age limit, BTW. You dirty old man, most of your dribble is best ignored but these two points require a response in case you mislead other idiots. Firstly, what you have written is not only patently untrue! There is a minimum age of consent in Thailand - from memory it is 15 but I will check to confirm. If there was no minimum age of consent in Thailand you idiot why would men be charged with having sex with children? Secondly, if you going to assert dubious official statistics regarding the sexual experiences of high school children you need to put it in some context. Children experiment with other children their age and that is ok, natural and normal. What is not ok is adults having sex with under age children. And the term sexual experiences is very wide ranging, it includes kissing. You may wish to reread your posts check some of you assertions. But perhaps more importantly there is a need for a morality check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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