bigKus Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 There have a FALANG struggling in the difficulty of doubts living amongst thais people (read his comment in dan_bkk blog, seek controversial comment). So, I created this forum thread to do my best enlighten them. To you, the farangs who have difficulty living here in TH, please feel free to ask us any questions about thai culture ( and /or thai things) I (and my thai alliances) will provide the answers/solutions. Note : After 10.00 pm. only sex questions allowed to ask na ja.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin_2 Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Do you think Thais should focus and act on Thai problems more, or do you think they do this enough? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
koolbreez Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Do you ever think that you will be able to quit using the term "falang, or farang"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiaranM Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 what's the best BJ bar in BKK ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admin Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Do you think that you may be unqualified to offer an explanation of your culture because you may not 100% understand the culture you're explaining it to? Don't take that the wrong way but let's take a non-Thai example just so I can better explain what I mean. Most cultures have what is termed, personal space. This is the space surrounding you that is considered your space. If anybody invades your personal space then most people react by becoming uncomfortable. For instance, for Americans it is about 45 cm to 1.2 meters. If people get any closer to you than that (and they are not family or someone you're intimate with) then people tend to have an unconscious feeling of being uncomfortable and will try to put distance between themselves and the other person to re-establish their personal space boundaries. Now, let's say for instance an American were to ask someone from a culture that has a much smaller personal space (maybe half that of Americans) why they stand so close when they speak. The person from the other culture will not quite understand what the American is talking about because they don't perceive themselves as being too close. In fact, they may ask the American why they stand so far away. So back to my question to you . . . unless you know how we feel and how we see and experience Thai culture how can you be sure you're explaining it to us correctly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiaranM Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Do you think that you may be unqualified to offer an explanation of your culture because you may not 100% understand the culture you're explaining it to? Don't take that the wrong way but let's take a non-Thai example just so I can better explain what I mean. Most cultures have what is termed, personal space. This is the space surrounding you that is considered your space. If anybody invades your personal space then most people react by becoming uncomfortable. For instance, for Americans it is about 45 cm to 1.2 meters. If people get any closer to you than that (and they are not family or someone you're intimate with) then people tend to have an unconscious feeling of being uncomfortable and will try to put distance between themselves and the other person to re-establish their personal space boundaries. Now, let's say for instance an American were to ask someone from a culture that has a much smaller personal space (maybe half that of Americans) why they stand so close when they speak. The person from the other culture will not quite understand what the American is talking about because they don't perceive themselves as being too close. In fact, they may ask the American why they stand so far away. So back to my question to you . . . unless you know how we feel and how we see and experience Thai culture how can you be sure you're explaining it to us correctly? if u don't like thai culture why u stay here ?? if u hate us ... **** off back farang land !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English_Bob Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Good thread Kusuma... Here's my question... Westerners often comment on how often Thai people lie. For farangs, the truth is very important and we really try not to lie. However, it seems that Thai people lie more often and for no real reason. I have two questions... 1) Do you agree that Thais lie a lot? 2) If you agree, why do you think lying is so common in Thailand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdtongchai Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 You obviously have no clue what he is talking about. Not a single word was said about liking or not liking Thai culture... and where is farang land? Or is any other country other than Thailand "farang land" ? I guess it's fair to assume that people who are members on Thailand friends, consider themselves friends of Thailand and LIKE the culture and its people. **** off back to farang land comes to me as one of the biggest insults you can give. I haven't even posted in this thread and feel offended by you. This is what ADMIN means when he says that you might not be qualified to explain "farang" emotions if you are not a "farang"... It's like explaining to me how a tree feels when it rains... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdtongchai Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Good thread Kusuma...Here's my question... 1) Do you agree that Thais lie a lot? 2) If you agree, why do you think lying is so common in Thailand? I think not agreeing may be considered denial? To me, it's a FACT that Thai people lie a lot. I've learned to live with it and accept it. Making "deals" with Thai people or scheduling appointments in my calendar are ALWAYS marked TENTATIVE..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin_2 Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 and I agree with EB here...great idea for a thread. I'm not sure if you were playing around by making this thread as answering all the questions that will come in will be a part-time job. Either way, I like the idea as long as people don't get all red shirted out about questions and replies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English_Bob Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 You obviously have no clue what he is talking about. Not a single word was said about liking or not liking Thai culture... and where is farang land? Or is any other country other than Thailand "farang land" ?I guess it's fair to assume that people who are members on Thailand friends, consider themselves friends of Thailand and LIKE the culture and its people. **** off back to farang land comes to me as one of the biggest insults you can give. I haven't even posted in this thread and feel offended by you. This is what ADMIN means when he says that you might not be qualified to explain "farang" emotions if you are not a "farang"... It's like explaining to me how a tree feels when it rains... Just to cast a little oil on troubled waters, '**** off back to farang land' is a long-standing, in-joke between Ciaran and another TF member. In this thread it's entirely a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admin Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 and I agree with EB here...great idea for a thread. I'm not sure if you were playing around by making this thread as answering all the questions that will come in will be a part-time job. Either way, I like the idea as long as people don't get all red shirted out about questions and replies. I'm heading down to Ratchadamri as I type this. I won't go home until the TF PM steps down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitelotus Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 I think not agreeing may be considered denial? To me, it's a FACT that Thai people lie a lot. I've learned to live with it and accept it. Making "deals" with Thai people or scheduling appointments in my calendar are ALWAYS marked TENTATIVE..... Good point, whenever you have to change place/job/partner, u have to learn living with the things u don't like. Without any doubt , i like your point of view and hope that all FARANG who decided to live here , think as same as you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigKus Posted March 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Do you think Thais should focus and act on Thai problems more, or do you think they do this enough? NO, Thais have no problem to be focus on... all that happens is our styles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigKus Posted March 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Do you ever think that you will be able to quit using the term "falang, or farang"? Yes, once you changed 'foreign' word's meaning to something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigKus Posted March 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 what's the best BJ bar in BKK ???? giving or taking ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigKus Posted March 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Do you think that you may be unqualified to offer an explanation of your culture because you may not 100% understand the culture you're explaining it to? Don't take that the wrong way but let's take a non-Thai example just so I can better explain what I mean. Most cultures have what is termed, personal space. This is the space surrounding you that is considered your space. If anybody invades your personal space then most people react by becoming uncomfortable. For instance, for Americans it is about 45 cm to 1.2 meters. If people get any closer to you than that (and they are not family or someone you're intimate with) then people tend to have an unconscious feeling of being uncomfortable and will try to put distance between themselves and the other person to re-establish their personal space boundaries. Now, let's say for instance an American were to ask someone from a culture that has a much smaller personal space (maybe half that of Americans) why they stand so close when they speak. The person from the other culture will not quite understand what the American is talking about because they don't perceive themselves as being too close. In fact, they may ask the American why they stand so far away. So back to my question to you . . . unless you know how we feel and how we see and experience Thai culture how can you be sure you're explaining it to us correctly? *sigh* (จะเยà¸à¸°à¹„ปไหนคะพี่) I did not say that all info i giving will be correct, i told i will do my best and i have my style. If you think you can understand things well already, no need to ask and if you ever ask, do not expect to high.. I do not hold 'Thai Culture PhD' , okie ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stramash Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Why do Thais set so much store by being able to buy 'captive' birds at temples in order to let them free? Surely if you didn't do this, the birds would not have to be captured in the first place for you to let them go? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admin Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Yes, once you changed 'foreign' word's meaning to something else. Would it kill Thais to learn the difference between different farang nationalities? If you come to most farang countries we call you Asian (if unsure of your country of origin or in describing your race) or Thai. Seldom would you be referred to as "foreigner." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admin Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 How much wood could a Thai wood chuck chuck if a Thai wood chuck could chuck wood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admin Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 giving or taking ? Both. Plus if you have any reviews that would be helpful. We're planning a TF event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigKus Posted March 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Good thread Kusuma...Here's my question... Westerners often comment on how often Thai people lie. For farangs, the truth is very important and we really try not to lie. However, it seems that Thai people lie more often and for no real reason. I have two questions... 1) Do you agree that Thais lie a lot? 2) If you agree, why do you think lying is so common in Thailand? Thank you David... I think, lying is universal not a thai thing, 1. I dont agree, lying is sin for thais 2. If you have been told lie a lot that could mean you have said lie to some people before and then kramma play the role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English_Bob Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Thank you David...I think, lying is universal not a thai thing, 1. I dont agree, lying is sin for thais 2. If you have been told lie a lot that could mean you have said lie to some people before and then kramma play the role. It's true that lying is universal... However, I think if you ask expat residents, they will agree that lying is more common in Thailand. So my question is why do Thai people lie more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigKus Posted March 30, 2011 Author Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 Why do Thais set so much store by being able to buy 'captive' birds at temples in order to let them free? Surely if you didn't do this, the birds would not have to be captured in the first place for you to let them go? Umm.. interesting question ummm.. Because, one of many thai beliefes is giving (something/someone ) life will bring good luck, so there have some people devoted themselve catch the birds just for those people release it later and feel good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admin Posted March 30, 2011 Report Share Posted March 30, 2011 It's true that lying is universal... However, I think if you ask expat residents, they will agree that lying is more common in Thailand.So my question is why do Thai people lie more? Again, another question which is difficult to answer not having any sort of experience as a farang and knowing what we consider a normal level of lying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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