World War III ?

[killerflix]

This article ws publihed on July 11 and now it's slowly making it's way through the American media. If it's true, how should the US responde after mushroom clouds arise above it's cities?

WASHINGTON ? As London recovers from the latest deadly al-Qaida attack that killed at least 50, top U.S. government officials are contemplating what they consider to be an inevitable and much bigger assault on America ? one likely to kill millions, destroy the economy and fundamentally alter the course of history, reports Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin.

According to captured al-Qaida leaders and documents, the plan is called the "American Hiroshima" and involves the multiple detonation of nuclear weapons already smuggled into the U.S. over the Mexican border with the help of the MS-13 street gang and other organized crime groups.

Al-Qaida has obtained at least 40 nuclear weapons from the former Soviet Union ? including suitcase nukes, nuclear mines, artillery shells and even some missile warheads. In addition, documents captured in Afghanistan show al-Qaida had plans to assemble its own nuclear weapons with fissile material it purchased on the black market.

In addition to detonating its own nuclear weapons already planted in the U.S., military sources also say there is evidence to suggest al-Qaida is paying former Russian special forces Spetznaz to assist the terrorist group in locating nuclear weapons formerly concealed inside the U.S. by the Soviet Union during the Cold War. Osama bin Laden's group is also paying nuclear scientists from Russia and Pakistan to maintain its existing nuclear arsenal and assemble additional weapons with the materials it has invested hundreds of millions in procuring over a period of 10 years.

The plans for the devastating nuclear attack on the U.S. have been under development for more than a decade. It is designed as a final deadly blow of defeat to the U.S., which is seen by al-Qaida and its allies as "the Great Satan."

At least half the nuclear weapons in the al-Qaida arsenal were obtained for cash from the Chechen terrorist allies.

But the most disturbing news is that high level U.S. officials now believe at least some of those weapons have been smuggled into the U.S. for use in the near future in major cities as part of this "American Hiroshima" plan, according to an upcoming book, "The Al Qaeda Connection: International Terrorism, Organized Crime and the Coming Apocalypse," by Paul L. Williams, a former FBI consultant.

According to Williams, former CIA Director George Tenet informed President Bush one month after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks that at least two suitcase nukes had reached al-Qaida operatives in the U.S.

"Each suitcase weighed between 50 and 80 kilograms (approximately 110 to 176 pounds) and contained enough fissionable plutonium and uranium to produce an explosive yield in excess of two kilotons," wrote Williams. "One suitcase bore the serial number 9999 and the Russian manufacturing date of 1988. The design of the weapons, Tenet told the president, is simple. The plutonium and uranium are kept in separate compartments that are linked to a triggering mechanism that can be activated by a clock or a call from the cell phone."

According to the author, the news sent Bush "through the roof," prompting him to order his national security team to give nuclear terrorism priority over every other threat to America.

However, it is worth noting that Bush failed to translate this policy into securing the U.S.-Mexico border through which the nuclear weapons and al-Qaida operatives are believed to have passed with the help of the MS-13 smugglers. He did, however, order the building of underground bunkers away from major metropolitan areas for use by federal government managers following an attack.

Bin Laden, according to Williams, has nearly unlimited funds to spend on his nuclear terrorism plan because he has remained in control of the Afghanistan-produced heroin industry. Poppy production has greatly increased even while U.S. troops are occupying the country, he writes. Al-Qaida has developed close relations with the Albanian Mafia, which assists in the smuggling and sale of heroin throughout Europe and the U.S.

Some of that money is used to pay off the notorious MS-13 street gang between $30,000 and $50,000 for each sleeper agent smuggled into the U.S. from Mexico. The sleepers are also provided with phony identification, most often bogus matricula consular ID cards indistinguishable from Mexico's official ID, now accepted in the U.S. to open bank accounts and obtain driver's licenses.

The Bush administration's unwillingness to secure the U.S.-Mexico border has puzzled and dismayed a growing number of activists and ordinary citizens who see it as the No. 1 security threat to the nation. The Minuteman organization is planning a major mobilization of thousands of Americans this fall designed to shut down the entire 2,000-mile border as it did in April with a 23-mile stretch in Arizona.

According to Williams' sources, thousands of al-Qaida sleeper agents have now been forward deployed into the U.S. to carry out their individual roles in the coming "American Hiroshima" plan.

Bin Laden's goal, according to the book, is to kill at least 4 million Americans, 2 million of whom must be children. Only then, bin Laden has said, would the crimes committed by America on the Arab and Muslim world be avenged.

There is virtually no doubt among intelligence analysts al-Qaida has obtained fully assembled nuclear weapons, according to Williams. The only question is how many. Estimates range between a dozen and 70. The breathtaking news is that an undetermined number of these weapons, including suitcase bombs, mines and crude tactical nuclear weapons, have already been smuggled into the U.S. ? at least some across the U.S.-Mexico border.

The future plan, according to captured al-Qaida agents and documents, suggests the attacks will take place simultaneously in major cities throughout the country ? including New York, Boston, Washington, Las Vegas, Miami, Chicago and Los Angeles.

In response to the G2 Bulletin revelations, Chris Simcox, founder of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps, a citizen action group demanding the U.S. government take control of its borders, said an immediate military presence on the borders is now imperative "to stop the overwhelming influx of unidentified, potentially hostile and seditious persons coming across at an alarming rate."

"Terrorists have carte blanche to carry practically anything they want across our national line at this time," he said. "As ordinary citizens have warned this government for years, the only surprising part about the new information reported here is that nothing apocalyptic from Mexican-border weapons trafficking has yet happened. Terrorism has reared its ugly head in London again these past few days, and as we know all too well we are not immune in this country. At this point, the next attempt to attack America at home is just a matter of 'when,' not 'if.' And our unsecured borders have surely contributed to this threat ? yet our government officials continue to fiddle while our nation's margin of security and safety burns away. The president and Congress had better wake up before they have to answer for another devastating terrorist incursion on our own soil."

[eagle]

TO long to Read YAWN !!! :roll:

[zeusbheld]

the fact that this is tied to an upcoming book makes the intelligence a bit suspect.

it is not 100 percent implausible but the nuclear option has been discussed for years now (i lived in new york city, 2.25 miles from grouind zero, on 9/11, it's personal).

one problem with nuclear bombs is that they can be tracked by satellite. they leave a radiation trace.

it is not implausible but it seems highly unllkely.

a smaller scale attack, however, using dirty bombs rather than full blown nukes, is much more plausible. a dirty bomb leaves a much smaller radiation trace and is harder to detect by satellite.

that said, it is possilbe that bombs have been available for a price from the former soviet union. moving the bomb, howevver, would be a problem (radiation trace).

i remember a chilling, yet comical, intervview with a russian gangster wherein he had tried to hustle up a submarine for running drugs for colombian drug lords. he said to his contact, a former soviet admiral:

"funny question buddy. can you get me a submarine?"

the former admiral replied, "funny question, buddy. missile or no missile?"

as for this plot, the author of the book doesnt look all that credible--his previous book was an attack on the catholic church, that appears quite biased from the passages i've read on the 'net. i am skeptical coz of the sweep, scope and difficulty of the plot, and the dubious credentials of the author, and the fact that EVERYTHING on the net abbout this plot is tied to one book.

it looks more like a plot to sell books at this point...

[SiamHotel]

you think 2 much bro!

[SiamHotel]

and thiz is ThailandPhriendx btw...

( juzt tryin' to be of help pal.. )

-- CheGueGaruda :wink: 8)

[zeusbheld]

and thiz is ThailandPhriendx btw...

( juzt tryin' to be of help pal.. )

-- CheGueGaruda :wink: 8)

lord sir

reading "FLIRT FLIRT" and "MY VIAGRA" posts in the forums has turned TF into "TEDIUM FRIENDS" and driven me to near-suicide...

cut me some slack, i'm happy to have ANY topic that isnt that...

i havent weighed in yet but i've been following the "what's your favorite fruit" thread closely.

zbh

the b is for desperate for entertainment on TF forums...

[SiamHotel]

*who* mention garupa cazzo??!

[SiamHotel]

k, f'get about the 'cazzo' part..... my "zponsor" LOL :wink:

[eagle]

and thiz is ThailandPhriendx btw...

( juzt tryin' to be of help pal.. )

-- CheGueGaruda :wink: 8)

lord sir

reading "FLIRT FLIRT" and "MY VIAGRA" posts in the forums has turned TF into "TEDIUM FRIENDS" and driven me to near-suicide...

cut me some slack, i'm happy to have ANY topic that isnt that...

i havent weighed in yet but i've been following the "what's your favorite fruit" thread closely.

zbh

the b is for desperate for entertainment on TF forums...

NOw what is this topic !! I vote for killerparrot for favorite fruit !!!!

see you all in paradise !!!! hugs before we all go in the big booom!!!!

love you all !!! see ya !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[CiaranM]

having just done a quick yahoo search i would take anything written by joseph farah with a f**king bucket of salt ......... the guys nuts!!

[funfarang]

it sounds as truthfull as the " sadam has WMD and is an ally of al quaeda"

this is total paranoia.

north korea is much more dangerous on a large scale than bin laden's troops.

[WiCKeDBiRD]

If there were a World War III ... I would NOT be there... :shock:

[eagle]

If there were a World War III ... I would NOT be there... :shock:

I concur, I think I will stay home and watch it on TV though

[johnno]

world war III? isn't that happening now over in the "is there a God" forum topic between me, loburt and khun_lung?

2 yanks against 1 aussie?

i guess i lose again? 8) :shock:

[CiaranM]

If there were a World War III ... I would NOT be there... :shock:

i reckon u'll probably start it !!!

[zeusbheld]

it sounds as truthfull as the " sadam has WMD and is an ally of al quaeda"

even less in my opinion

north korea is much more dangerous on a large scale than bin laden's troops.

more capable, but more likely to respond to diplomacy. each have their own special charms.

[zeusbheld]

Think Ill stick to reading Michael Moore for my dose of left-wingism. Wonder how credible his sources actually are.

i think the timing with the book release says it all.

you need some right wing-ism to offset that michael moore, but this is not that.

[Greggo]

Just another scare tactic to make way for the NWO

[cs3602001]

Just another scare tactic to make way for the NWO

Yes, too many people dismiss the theory of the NWO, obviously they have been conditioned from an early age to believe the "facts", "facts" that start to be fed to them in school, and continue throughout life through various forms of media.

So when the day comes and a NWO is upon us, people will still be sat in from of their TV's saying "this is far-out, it could never happen"......Conspiracy theories get dismissed as a mad mans ramblings.....

Beware...

[eagle]

Just another scare tactic to make way for the NWO

Yes, too many people dismiss the theory of the NWO, obviously they have been conditioned from an early age to believe the "facts", "facts" that start to be fed to them in school, and continue throughout life through various forms of media.

So when the day comes and a NWO is upon us, people will still be sat in from of their TV's saying "this is far-out, it could never happen"......Conspiracy theories get dismissed as a mad mans ramblings.....

Beware...

aww your just a madman hahaha booooom !!!! didu see that :shock:

[WiCKeDBiRD]

If there were a World War III ... I would NOT be there... :shock:

i reckon u'll probably start it !!!

8) :wink:

di da di .... di da di...

I take it as a compliment

[CiaranM]

If there were a World War III ... I would NOT be there... :shock:

i reckon u'll probably start it !!!

8) :wink:

di da di .... di da di...

I take it as a compliment

good .... i always try to be complimentary, unfortunately i don't always suceed.

[WiCKeDBiRD]

good .... i always try to be complimentary, unfortunately i don't always suceed.

Sounds kind of spooky... really :shock:

Hehehe ... but well well .....the mirror always has 2 faces though

[MikeAussieGuy]

Yes no doubt some lunatic will one day use something very destructive.

And we will all look at each other and say those words made famous by the Mayor of Hiroshima in August, 1945 " did you hear that"?

[WiCKeDBiRD]

Yes, too many people dismiss the theory of the NWO, obviously they have been conditioned from an early age to believe the "facts", "facts" that start to be fed to them in school, and continue throughout life through various forms of media.

So when the day comes and a NWO is upon us, people will still be sat in from of their TV's saying "this is far-out, it could never happen"......Conspiracy theories get dismissed as a mad mans ramblings.....

Beware...

:shock:

PS. what is NWO.. anyway?