THE WAY THAI WOMEN TREAT FARANG MEN

[eagle]

human are human not just thai women thai men or farang .. That's something difficult to describe or undersntand in individaul person's mind .... Even somettimes you think thing person very well but sometiems they still dissapointed you There still many nice thai lady for you or still thai man for thai lady still many good farang BUT believe that you are what eat you will get the same typed of girl as you behave

very true

[Guest]

Eagle i have had more then a few 1 night stands in my time, with women that enjoy a good time, who were after exactly the same as myself, so i am now a ***** in your book.

Why is it marxist liberals such as yourself feel the need to be abusive if someone doesnt do and think exactly as yourself.

As in they were fuckwits too?

If you dont understand the argument then why not stay out of it, or perhaps get a one night stand round and ask her to read the thread and explain to you what is going on, the bullshit you are defending is offencesive to A: All Thai women and B: All men in a relationship with a Thai woman C: Everyone else and has f*ck all to do with you getting your end away or how many times you do it.

What the f*ck is a marxist liberal?

they must have beards and try to defend Thai ladies on websites

Apparently you can hook me up with some weed too?

If we only judge everyone on appearance, would that not make Marky Mark a wannabe pretty boy who spends waaaay to much time in the gym, thinks only of getting his end away and the score that he can notch up without ever truly realizing why he is doing what he is doing, how old do you think he will be before he realises his over compensation with the opposite sex was just masking his latent homosexual tendancies?

Should get a response, more than likely what does latent mean?

[eagle]

Eagle i have had more then a few 1 night stands in my time, with women that enjoy a good time, who were after exactly the same as myself, so i am now a ***** in your book.

Why is it marxist liberals such as yourself feel the need to be abusive if someone doesnt do and think exactly as yourself.

As in they were fuckwits too?

If you dont understand the argument then why not stay out of it, or perhaps get a one night stand round and ask her to read the thread and explain to you what is going on, the bullshit you are defending is offencesive to A: All Thai women and B: All men in a relationship with a Thai woman C: Everyone else and has f*ck all to do with you getting your end away or how many times you do it.

What the f*ck is a marxist liberal?

they must have beards and try to defend Thai ladies on websites

Apparently you can hook me up with some weed too?

If we only judge everyone on appearance, would that not make Marky Mark a wannabe pretty boy who spends waaaay to much time in the gym, thinks only of getting his end away and the score that he can notch up without ever truly realizing why he is doing what he is doing, how old do you think he will be before he realises his over compensation with the opposite sex was just masking his latent homosexual tendancies?

Should get a response, more than likely what does latent mean?

I for one have enjoyed the Thai "ladies" I have met in person and on line and found them all intelligent and warm. As Miss love said "you get as you behave" and that is a rule for all roads in life :idea:

[Guest]

I tend to find..... and here is a real shocker of a novel approach.... that any woman from any race will give you slightly more time if:

A: You dont look at her like she is meat

B: The first conversation you engage in is not about getting your end away

and finally

C: You do not recoil in horror if she does not fit your criteria of who you would date.

Unbelievably, this approach means that you can have the opposite sex as friends and it is not just all about getting your end away. Here's a really frightening thought, women are people to and may have information or input that might actually enlighten you life and widen your perspective, they also make great and loyal friends!!!

REVOLUTIONARY OR WHAT??

Please post Nobel Prize to tatt2dude at yada yada yada....

[eagle]

I tend to find..... and here is a real shocker of a novel approach.... that any woman from any race will give you slightly more time if:

A: You dont look at her like she is meat

B: The first conversation you engage in is not about getting your end away

and finally

C: You do not recoil in horror if she does not fit your criteria of who you would date.

Unbelievably, this approach means that you can have the opposite sex as friends and it is not just all about getting your end away. Here's a really frightening thought, women are people to and may have information or input that might actually enlighten you life and widen your perspective, they also make great and loyal friends!!!

REVOLUTIONARY OR WHAT??

Please post Nobel Prize to tatt2dude at yada yada yada....

Thats too far fetched, stop staring at their **** and try to listen and you should be ok

[cocotrees]

I had to pay for my girlfriends sick Buffalo, then caught her shagging my best mate.

Got custody of the Buffalo though, trouble is the bastard won't stop shitting in the condo.

i'm really sorry, but i can't help laughing at what you said. :mrgreen:

[cocotrees]

ok heres what i got, my distant uncle married a thai lady, brought her to my country, give her a home and allowances, pay for her family to come visit her, let her go home for new year. and mind you, my uncle isn't some rich big shot, he just want her to be happy because he knows she left her home. of cos my grandma was quite unhappy when he wanted to marry her, cos they only know each other for 2-3mths i think, but after the marriage, everything seems to be working out fine....so everyone was happy for my uncle. But 6months down the marriage, she said she was bored staying at home, so my uncle encourage her to take up some lessons during her free time. anyway, to cut story short, she meet a "farang" as you guys call it(we call them another name) and she end up having an affair with him, and from relatives, the expat also doesn't know she's married, she cock up some stupid story saying she's been "sold" to work here. :shock:

anyway, they got seperated and now my uncle is pretty anti social. im not sure why she do this to hurt him, and the expat. She may feel very exciting cheating on them, or feel that she doesn't love my uncle anymore, or just want the pleasure from a white man. i don't know.

all i know is, what comes around, goes around. if you treat others badly, one day u will get the same treatment. So for those who had been cheated or treated badly, just take a big sigh and say its bad luck and try to move on. i know its easy to say, but hey, its your life afterall, you choose to make it better or worse.

don't ponder too much on why they cheat you, cos so what if you know? the hurt is already been done. But dun also think everyone is like that, cos even twins have different characters. Just be smart. if you want to be on the safe side, follow your head, not your heart

cheers!

[Angel_Master]

The sad truth about Thai women is that how they treat you all depends on either money/or gifts= how much you spend on them or status.

Bascially almost every Thai woman has a price or can be had, and it need not be just money. There are many other commodities with which they trade, but make no mistake it is all about trade when it comes to Thai woman.

Thai women treat men the best or as good as anywhere else, just so long as you dont expect a Thai woman to be capable of REAL UNSELFISH LOVE.

Thai women are simply not capable of true and enduring love.

Absolutely no more true about Thai women than it is about women or men as well from anywhere else. Love between any two people usually has a selfish side. Unselfish love is very rare indead. It is about both sides fullfiling the the needs of the other. There is nothing free in this world.

[Angel_Master]

Well, when you consider that some decide totally of their own volition to earn a living as prostitutes and won't leave it behind even when some nice fellows ask them repeatedly as well as promise take care of all their financial needs and possibly a good part of their families as well, including demonstrating that they clearly mean it.

But choose to ignor that relatively small group and the answer is different.

You could say that about farang women also . There are Prostitutes all over the world just not always as in the open as Thailand. And even prositutes would have the option of treating someone decent.

That is true I suppose although I have never knowingly met a Farang prostitute or even heard any stories regarding them that could compare. There seems to be a much higher percentage of Thai prostitutes. Maybe I'm just not very well travelled, but when I have run into prostitutes out side of Thailand, surprise surprise, many of them where Thai! Maybe just my narrow experience.

Not sure what your last sentence is about or why you include it. And what would a prostitute do to treat someone decent? Shag like crazy and not charge too much? Turn away other customers for a few days? Big deal! So, she actually likes the occasional customer. Any woman who is a prostitute by choice because she enjoys the life is the ultimate example of a slut.

[cocotrees]

a "farang" as you guys call it(we call them another name)

You mean "ang moh"?

Not to our faces, you don't.

yup, we refer foreigners to ang mo. those who live here for a long time also call themselves that.

[Loburt]

I have never knowingly met a Farang prostitute or even heard any stories regarding them that could compare. There seems to be a much higher percentage of Thai prostitutes. Maybe I'm just not very well travelled, but when I have run into prostitutes out side of Thailand, surprise surprise, many of them where Thai! Maybe just my narrow experience.

Your experience must be narrower than the eye of a needle. That was one of the most ridiculous paragraphs ever posted on TF.

Most prostitutes outside of Thailand are not Thai. An extremely tiny percentage of them are Thai. In total, there are easily more protstitutes in your home country, the USA, than Thailand. As for percentages, I sincerely doubt any accurate international cross studies exist. But if the percentage is higher in Thailand that wouldn't be so surprising as, in the first place, it is a developing country. There are, of course other factors.

Any woman who is a prostitute by choice because she enjoys the life is the ultimate example of a slut.

Really? For starters, very few prostitutes choose the profession beause they "enjoy the life." For some, however, it does give them a power and independence they would be very unlikely to obtain otherwise. Atlhough often at a cost to their emotional well being.

If they are up front about what they are doing, why are they the ultimate sluts? I think girls who have boyfriends and yet go out and get drunk and shag anyone who is willing are bigger sluts.

I think guys who hang around parties, TF parties included, preying on such women are the utlimate losers and lowlifes.

[cocotrees]

ok heres what i got, my distant uncle married a thai lady, brought her to my country, give her a home and allowances, pay for her family to come visit her, let her go home for new year. and mind you, my uncle isn't some rich big shot, he just want her to be happy because he knows she left her home. of cos my grandma was quite unhappy when he wanted to marry her, cos they only know each other for 2-3mths i think, but after the marriage, everything seems to be working out fine....so everyone was happy for my uncle. But 6months down the marriage, she said she was bored staying at home, so my uncle encourage her to take up some lessons during her free time. anyway, to cut story short, she meet a "farang" as you guys call it(we call them another name) and she end up having an affair with him, and from relatives, the expat also doesn't know she's married, she cock up some stupid story saying she's been "sold" to work here. :shock:

anyway, they got seperated and now my uncle is pretty anti social. im not sure why she do this to hurt him, and the expat. She may feel very exciting cheating on them, or feel that she doesn't love my uncle anymore, or just want the pleasure from a white man. i don't know.

all i know is, what comes around, goes around. if you treat others badly, one day u will get the same treatment. So for those who had been cheated or treated badly, just take a big sigh and say its bad luck and try to move on. i know its easy to say, but hey, its your life afterall, you choose to make it better or worse.

don't ponder too much on why they cheat you, cos so what if you know? the hurt is already been done. But dun also think everyone is like that, cos even twins have different characters. Just be smart. if you want to be on the safe side, follow your head, not your heart

cheers!

Sorry about what happened to your uncle. That wasn't nice for him but there are two sides to every story, I believe.

Seems like Thai didn't make any good impression on you. So, may I ask you something, are you on there becasue you want to get to know more Thai? or because there are many farang on here?

ps...my English is sloppy and I have very funny accent.

i don't think i had portray any grudges in my written message, neither did i say i had bad impression of Thais. Must be your own assumptions i suppose.

Sure you may question me the purpose of my existance in this website, but since you had mention sloppy English and funny accent, i assume you had read my profile, the reason why i'm here is actually indicated quite clearly in the 2nd sentence.

:roll:

[Guest]

I have never knowingly met a Farang prostitute or even heard any stories regarding them that could compare. There seems to be a much higher percentage of Thai prostitutes. Maybe I'm just not very well travelled, but when I have run into prostitutes out side of Thailand, surprise surprise, many of them where Thai! Maybe just my narrow experience.

Your experience must be narrower than the eye of a needle. That was one of the most ridiculous paragraphs ever posted on TF.

Most prostitutes outside of Thailand are not Thai. An extremely tiny percentage of them are Thai. In total, there are easily more protstitutes in your home country, the USA, than Thailand. As for percentages, I sincerely doubt any accurate international cross studies exist. But if the percentage is higher in Thailand that wouldn't be so surprising as, in the first place, it is a developing country. There are, of course other factors.

Any woman who is a prostitute by choice because she enjoys the life is the ultimate example of a slut.

Really? For starters, very few prostitutes choose the profession beause they "enjoy the life." For some, however, it does give them a power and independence they would be very unlikely to obtain otherwise. Atlhough often at a cost to their emotional well being.

If they are up front about what they are doing, why are they the ultimate sluts? I think girls who have boyfriends and yet go out and get drunk and shag anyone who is willing are bigger sluts.

I think guys who hang around parties, TF parties included, preying on such women are the utlimate losers and lowlifes.

Loburt I agree wholeheartedly and unreservedly with your post.

(your weeks turning to **** isn't it?)

[Guest]

a "farang" as you guys call it(we call them another name)

You mean "ang moh"?

Not to our faces, you don't.

yup, we refer foreigners to ang mo. those who live here for a long time also call themselves that.

Really? I'm SPR from the USA and I've never heard anyone in SG refer to him/herself as an ang moh.

BTW, it shouldn't come as much of a surprise to you that your uncle's wife ditched him for a Westerner, especially since many Singaporean men have a chauvinistic attitude not just towards women, but in particular toward Indonesian, Filipino, and Thai women.

Its de Klan, Its de Klan!!!!

What is going on with the whole race issues all of a sudden? Thai women are incapable, Singaporeans are chauvanistic what next? I suppose because I am English I smell of fish and chips?

[cocotrees]

a "farang" as you guys call it(we call them another name)

You mean "ang moh"?

Not to our faces, you don't.

yup, we refer foreigners to ang mo. those who live here for a long time also call themselves that.

Really? I'm SPR from the USA and I've never heard anyone in SG refer to him/herself as an ang moh.

BTW, it shouldn't come as much of a surprise to you that your uncle's wife ditched him for a Westerner, especially since many Singaporean men have a chauvinistic attitude not just towards women, but in particular toward Indonesian, Filipino, and Thai women.

Well Rob, i can't comment at all whether he is bad to her. From what i see(with my own eyes) he treats her kind. Not all Singapore men are chauvinistic and not all Thai woman are disappointing partners, right? People do sometimes fall to tempatation. It just happens that such unfortunate events befall on these 2 people.

Love is indeed a funny "thing".................. :roll:

[cocotrees]

a "farang" as you guys call it(we call them another name)

You mean "ang moh"?

Not to our faces, you don't.

yup, we refer foreigners to ang mo. those who live here for a long time also call themselves that.

Really? I'm SPR from the USA and I've never heard anyone in SG refer to him/herself as an ang moh.

BTW, it shouldn't come as much of a surprise to you that your uncle's wife ditched him for a Westerner, especially since many Singaporean men have a chauvinistic attitude not just towards women, but in particular toward Indonesian, Filipino, and Thai women.

Its de Klan, Its de Klan!!!!

What is going on with the whole race issues all of a sudden? Thai women are incapable, Singaporeans are chauvanistic what next? I suppose because I am English I smell of fish and chips?

fish and chips....yummy......hmmm....but the one i had at Keswick Lake District is yucky :?

[Guest]

what next? I suppose because I am English I smell of fish and chips?

Yes, that'll do; but only because I can't think of anything pejorative involving Tourette syndrome... :wink:

Having an off day?

[Angel_Master]

Just looking for any opportunity are you Loburt?

Well this just goes to prove that some people will if they can understand what you say the wrong way. So I guess I have to spell it out. I'm usually careful to do this, but this time I wasn't so careful.

I mean this as a percentage of Thai people versus a percentage of people from western countries, not as a percentage of prostitutes in the world as a whole. [This perception should never be taken to reflect on the character of other Thai women who have never made such a choice. But it does affect ones general impression of being surround by promiscuous people.]

Of course most prostitutes outside Thailand are not Thai, I totally agree. Thanks for stating the obvious. I never said they where.

My home country is not the USA, it is Canada. We don't have many prostitutes there. It is too cold, and the social stigma is huge, most are drug addicts..... Applies to street walkers?.

Okay, as I am saying this I do recall now running into some girls in a night club there years ago who where working for an escort agency as call girls, and where not in the least ashamed about what they did, nor did it seem many of their customers where. The yellow pages in most cities have a huge section for escort agencies, which is almost always disguised prostitution. And many of the girls working in this industry would fall into the same category as I spoke of earlier. So, yes I do take that back, "I have never knowingly met a Farang prostitute or even heard any stories regarding them that could compare." And I agree that it is a pointless statement outside of the context of this tread and is probably also highly debatable that the percentage of Thai girls versus Farang women who choose to be prostitutes is higher. Perhaps it is just a matter of visibility. I just don't have much appreciation for women who choose to be prostitutes when they clearly have other choices it they would make a little effort.

So, Loburt, you still believe that act they give you up front, do you, along with the standard Farang newbie impression that most of them are just waiting for some nice fellow to rescue them from their terrible life? I would suggest you go back to school. :roll: But some people never learn.

I don't see how being up front makes anyone less of a slut; it only makes them more honest. They are probably more confident, and feel that what they are doing is somehow alright, not sure which is worse. It is another topic.

As for judging who has a committed relationship and who is "preying" on week individuals for a shag as you infer, is not nearly as simple and obvious as you would like think it is. No one can judge accurately unless they can be objectively.

[HappyJellyfish]

Try German numbers: 500.000 professional sexworkers for ~80 mio people, many of them East-European nowadays (those Russkas and Polakas are everywhere, even on Sukhumvit!).

Thai hookers seem to be out of fashion at this time in Germany. But there are still a few around in the legal brothels like Pascha in Koeln, Hornstrasse 2 (try Room 213: Took, 24, from Songkla). There are 149 other 'hoes' (Ferang, African, Asian; female, transsexual and male) in that 12-floor building, which probably represents the real world ratio. Prostitution is universal and eternal, not just a temporary Thai phaenomenon.

[ttesta]

but i want to her peoples opinions on the subject and i dont want it to get to personal,

yes people will generalise in thiers answers , otherwise the answer to all socially realted questions is 'everyone is different', ok deep down yes, but some generalsations carry rings of truth, so lets not pull people apart , its a forum and opinions get expressed. lets keep it clean(ish lol).

i have been to a lot of countries but never have i seen anywhere where sex is looked upon the way it is in bkk (generally speaking of course), i mean who decided that uni students had to where such sexy clothes???

skimpy clothes are everywhere and flirting is out of control, gik is virtually acceptable city wide tons of girls are recieving financial benefit or just expensive stuff. girls from bars have met guys who cared about them sent money so they didnt have to work, but so many of them jusy carried on and lied about it, so many thai men **** around and now its being recognised how much HIV is getting to thier wives this way (via 'massage'/ brothel {deleate as required}, tons ofm farang guys are going nuts for girls everyday giving the good ones a bad name and this whole cycle continues.......its gotta have a breaking point.

to some it up, lots of thai ladies i have met seem to see sex just like a lot of farang, if i want it, i will look for it, (GENERALLY SPEAKING OF COURSE)..

those who diagree FLAME AWAY, its just a general opion

[superskater]

It should not be personal but the moderators themselve make lots of personal attacks so it sets the tone for the board.

The upper class Thais could shut down the sex industry if they wanted to but it would mean higher taxes such as property tax.

I think Thai society chooses to let the sex industry be a major solution for funding the Issan problem.

Policemen get kickbacks or payoffs instead of higher salaries.

Teachers are underpaid but the upperclasses can send their kids to private schools so to hell with the quality of education in the countryside.

I think the upper class, especially rich Chinese Thais control this society and the sex industry serves a purpose for them.

[Loburt]

My home country is not the USA, it is Canada. We don't have many prostitutes there. It is too cold, and the social stigma is huge, most are drug addicts..... Applies to street walkers?.

So, Loburt, you still believe that act they give you up front, do you, along with the standard Farang newbie impression that most of them are just waiting for some nice fellow to rescue them from their terrible life? I would suggest you go back to school. :roll: But some people never learn.

You appear to be pretty ignorant about prostitution in Canada if you think there are so few of them because of cold weather and social stgima, and that they are mostly drug addicts. Most prostitutes are not streetwalkers. I'm sure that in Montreal, Vancouver, Toronto, etc., there are scores if not hundreds of escort agencies, topless bars and other modes of prostitution.

You were the one who raised the notion of Thai hookers refusing to let "good" men take them away from all that. Not me. So I think it's a reasonable guess you fell for their act, tried to take them away from all that and failed. It wasnt my post or words. They were yours. The voice of experience, I'm sure.

Your original post contained many obvious falsehoods and misstatements, and it's clear I wasn't the only one who saw them. Your attempts at trying to rectify or clarify them now doesnt excuse the fact that the original statements were ignorant and bordered on bigotry and racism - something you've displayed before on ThailandFriends.

Your subsequent "clarifications" only reinforce the fact that your ideas about sex workers are shallow, stereotypical and out of touch with the realities most of these women face or faced when they entered the profession.

Why do I feel confident that I understand these things to a greater extent than you? My job. The work I've done and am doing here in Thailand has on several occasions put me in contact with sex workers, people who work with sex workers and people who study sex workers, here in Thailand and around Asia.

You, on the other hand, claim to have almost never met any, unless they were Thai. Yet you confidently make moral and factually incorrect pronouncements about them. And you think "I" need to go back to school? Not anyplace you're a teacher.

I shudder to think how you are poisoning young Thai minds.

[Angel_Master]

I don't see how being up front makes anyone less of a slut;

What if someone chooses to have lots of sex with lots of different partners for no money are they the penultimate example of a slut?

Is any man who is a prostitute by choice because he enjoys the life not the ultimate example of a slut?

I read once (back in 1999 before I came out to Thailand) that Sydney (Australia) had a higher percentage of sluts... oop prostitutes per square foot than Thailand.

I thought it was clever use of stats to refute a point.

Of course any man making the same choice would be just a much a slut.

I don't see how money makes anyone less or more of a slut. If women have all the money they want they probably don't ask for money, and are probably somewhat choosier about who they sleep with, but based on their attitude they would still be very promiscuous.

Yes it is very twisted use of statistics if you take Sydney, a city, versus the whole country of Thailand.

I'm not sure what your point is.

[Guest]

I find some of the statements in this thread utterly amazing.

Here is where the problem lies, I think some of the narrowminded people here really didn't get out much at home, call it fear of their own shadows or the fact that they did not go to THOSE places but they really have not got a clue.

Now they are in Thailand where the sex industry is regarded exactly as that, they have the confidence to go to somewhere like cowboy and feel relatively safe, why because it is not underground and it is not particularly threatening. They then make informed opinions about the whole situation, usually bourne from resentment at having been f**ked sucked and plucked by a teenage bar girl who has more street smarts in her tender years than these people will have in their entire lives.

So said opinion is expressed on these boards with some degree of belief that they actually know what they are talking about. Judgements come thick and fast and accuracy goes out of the window. The disrespect for women on this board is beyond belief and trust me I am not a liberal marxist. Some of you guys are so out of touch it's actually frightening.

I have travelled a lot, yet to come across a country yet without a sex industry of some sort, never been to Canada, what the fucks there?

No wonder not many of the women on this board post.

Oh and as for the mods, so what they post and have an opinion? Lets introduce rules to stop that shall we? then we can have upper mods to moderate the mods, then you would need etc etc etc

[Angel_Master]

My home country is not the USA, it is Canada. We don't have many prostitutes there. It is too cold, and the social stigma is huge, most are drug addicts..... Applies to street walkers?.

So, Loburt, you still believe that act they give you up front, do you, along with the standard Farang newbie impression that most of them are just waiting for some nice fellow to rescue them from their terrible life? I would suggest you go back to school. :roll: But some people never learn.

You appear to be pretty ignorant about prostitution in Canada if you think there are so few of them because of cold weather and social stgima, and that they are mostly drug addicts. Most prostitutes are not streetwalkers. I'm sure that in Montreal, Vancouver, Toronto, etc., there are scores if not hundreds of escort agencies, topless bars and other modes of prostitution.

You were the one who raised the notion of Thai hookers refusing to let "good" men take them away from all that. Not me. So I think it's a reasonable guess you fell for their act, tried to take them away from all that and failed. It wasnt my post or words. They were yours. The voice of experience, I'm sure.

Your original post contained many obvious falsehoods and misstatements, and it's clear I wasn't the only one who saw them. Your attempts at trying to rectify or clarify them now doesnt excuse the fact that the original statements were ignorant and bordered on bigotry and racism - something you've displayed before on ThailandFriends.

Your subsequent "clarifications" only reinforce the fact that your ideas about sex workers are shallow, stereotypical and out of touch with the realities most of these women face or faced when they entered the profession.

Why do I feel confident that I understand these things to a greater extent than you? My job. The work I've done and am doing here in Thailand has on several occasions put me in contact with sex workers, people who work with sex workers and people who study sex workers, here in Thailand and around Asia.

You, on the other hand, claim to have almost never met any, unless they were Thai. Yet you confidently make moral and factually incorrect pronouncements about them. And you think "I" need to go back to school? Not anyplace you're a teacher.

I shudder to think how you are poisoning young Thai minds.

No need to even read what you wrote as you have clearly taken what I said out of context, editing out my paragraph below where I completely refute that statement as an ignorant and false opinion.

I just put it in like that so people can follow my thought process better, and hopefully better understand. This tread is actually about impressions; impressions which can be totally skewed but which none the less affect the choices they make. I don't ever claim to be perfectly correct in my every thought or statement. Unlike some people I am open to taking back any statement and changing my opinion if I can see that it is reasonable to do so.

Did you even read my entire post before picking out a point to attack?