Goodghost Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 Check out these websites. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_conspiracy_theories http://100777.com/node/241 http://www.michaelmoore.com/ http://www.911truth.org/ The truth will always prevail. Your thoughts please Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vacanti373 Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 i have one michael moore full length video....very good. alex jones is another one that is a must see, though i don't know his site. they are DEFINATE eye openers to showing much more than meets the eye of the general public. the movie "the tail wags the dog" is kindergarten material compared to some other things that have been exposed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marky12345 Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 tfff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thaibel Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 If u want some more ideas (I still find the conspiracy theories complete bullsh*t, nobody could convince me of the contrary) of other members look here: LINK 1 or LINK 2 I'm sure some politicians/business ppl took advantage in a political or financial way out of 9/11. But that doesn't mean they r involved in it. Some authors even made bestsellers out of this conspiracy theorie and gain a lot of money with their books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vacanti373 Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 not ALL are BS. if one is too judgemental, then one is also biased, and close minded to possibilities that might possibly be true to some degree or another. this subject is not something to just "scratch the surface " on. it takes years of comitted research,(and still may likely not present the 100% truth) i subject the statement that anyone who does enough research, will tend to agree, that there is certainly more going on than meets the eye of the general public. what you (generally)see is NOT reality. anyone that thinks it is, is "looking at the world through rose coloured spectacles" all else is speculation....but that is a FACT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 not ALL are BS.if one is too judgemental, then one is also biased, and close minded to possibilities that might possibly be true to some degree or another. this subject is not something to just "scratch the surface " on. it takes years of comitted research,(and still may likely not present the 100% truth) i subject the statement that anyone who does enough research, will tend to agree, that there is certainly more going on than meets the eye of the general public. what you (generally)see is NOT reality. anyone that thinks it is, is "looking at the world through rose coloured spectacles" all else is speculation....but that is a FACT! you are talking in vague generalities and not saying anything specific. sounds more like mystical mumbo jumbo than justification for whatever conspiracy theory you're peddling at the moment. call it 'judgmental' if you will, but i only believe things for which there is an abundance of evidence. i don't believe theories that have to throw out substantial quantities of evidence in order to fit what the perpetrator wants to believe. an open mind doesn't mean you let people dump their garbage in it. if you think you can make a case for a conspiracy based on evidence, have a go at it. if you can't back up your claims, i will be laughing AT you, not WITH you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 The truth will always prevail. Your thoughts please short version: no, the truth won't always prevail. 'the truth' will hardly ever prevail. what will prevail is good, catchy stories that press people's buttons. my favorite is the numbnuts who insists that the planes that hit the world trade center in new york were blue-screened in. amazing job those special effects artists did, several of my friends saw the planes, they blue screened 'em right into the actual sky, not just the videos. 911.truth org is slicker bullshit, but still bullshit. this topic has been done to death, as thailbel says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vacanti373 Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 you are talking in vague generalities and not saying anything specific. sounds more like mystical mumbo jumbo than justification for whatever conspiracy theory you're peddling at the moment. it isn't my post to begin with, and i am not peddling any conspiracy theory.... if you think you can make a case for a conspiracy based on evidence, have a go at it. if you can't back up your claims, i will be laughing AT you, not WITH you. the last part of your statement is VERY cruel. it belittles a previous journal and i know,that you know,what i am talking about. as for the first part , i am not making ANY case for conspiracy. i only suggest people keep their eyes open...that is the bottom line. and i haven't seen any of the sites mentioned above....so i can't comment. my favorite is the numbnuts who insists that the planes that hit the world trade center in new york were blue-screened in. i have to agree with you :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vacanti373 Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 I just visited the links above. There is a lot of total nonsense there mixed with some truth. Some stuff was totally rediculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldMember Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 So who won? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vacanti373 Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 GoldMember: not funny...you are possibly missing the point. this isn't about debate, winning or losing. :-P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captaindemos Posted September 28, 2006 Report Share Posted September 28, 2006 The truth is a conspiracy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vacanti373 Posted September 29, 2006 Report Share Posted September 29, 2006 The real conspiracy is people that are conspiring to make make people conspire against each other. Geoge Bush told me! Honest! :-) It can be seen as unadulterated truth at g.bush*t.com :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabaisabai Posted September 29, 2006 Report Share Posted September 29, 2006 the truth is an illusion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted September 29, 2006 Report Share Posted September 29, 2006 The real conspiracy is people that are conspiring to make make people conspire against each other.Geoge Bush told me! Honest! :-) It can be seen as unadulterated truth at g.bush*t.com :-) actually 9/11 conspiracy theories are a great beneffit--for the bush administration. it distracts people from what's really going on, and enables bush supporters to lump all opponents in with the nut jobs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted September 29, 2006 Report Share Posted September 29, 2006 So who won? Ermmmmm... I'll get back to you There are so many theories, fantastic AND believeable, about almost everything we hear. I never actually SAW the 9/11 travesty in person, but I don't disbelieve it happened, nor the Holocaust, apparently denied by some. As someone else has already said, unless you actually see it with your own eyes, you can only base your opinions upon hearsay and conjecture. And that doesn't necessarily mean you are wrong, but you can't genuinely argue that you are right. Of this I am in no doubt, as my alien friends have told me. Jing naaaaaaa... :D:D:D:D actually that's not true. firstly, don't believe everything you see, although if you see a building collapse it probably did. also, while nothing is 100 percent knowable and therefore all 'truth' is provisional, and thus subject to revision, it makes considerable sense to base one's opinion on evidence, and wherever science is applicable, it is probably our most effective technique for basing opinions on something much more reliable than hearsay or conjecture. the problem is, science is always a work in progress. and it is also very technical, scientific education in the general public is putrid. also it can get so esoteric than only those specializing in the relevant discipline can seriously evaluate some claims. thus it is easy to spin plausible-sounding yarns that make sense, because the public are poorly informed. 'truth' is always provisional and subject to revision, but that doesn't mean that everything is 'hearsay and conjecture.' some things are definitely more true than others. there is no such thing as 100 percent certainty. however, if some things aren't fairly reliably testable and effectively true, don't go in a building, cross a bridge, drive a car, etc. and deny the existence of the computer you're typing this on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted September 29, 2006 Report Share Posted September 29, 2006 the last part of your statement is VERY cruel. it belittles a previous journal and i know,that you know,what i am talking about. actually, i'd forgotten the journal, i have the memory of a goldfish. sorry about that. as for being cruel, well.. yeah... i like being booed when i step into the ring, is that so wrong? apologies if i've crossed the line, but i merely made a conditional statement, that IF someone (you or anyone) posits nutty theories unsupported by evidence, such as the 'blue screen' theory, i am merely offering fair warning that i shall not practice my usual restraint, tact, and compassion and shall graduate from mere prick to full blown harpie. << don't take all net stuff so seriously, think of it more like professional wrestling, mostly for show. keep in mind that you nor i nor anyone have any real stake in internet 'debates'.>> as for the first part , i am not making ANY case for conspiracy.i only suggest people keep their eyes open...that is the bottom line. always good advice, if not watched carefully bush might do something like invade iraq... WHAT??? oh. never mind. i'm all for people keeping their eyes open and their mind open... BUT tempered with a massive dose of thoroughness and skepticism. and i haven't seen any of the sites mentioned above....so i can't comment. i've seen most of the 9-11 conspiracy sites, haven't looked at all the sites listed here. my favorite is the numbnuts who insists that the planes that hit the world trade center in new york were blue-screened in. i have to agree with you :-) the careful observer will note that most of the theories depend on the public's lack of general scientific knowledge and lack of interest in science. thus a theory can circulate indefinitely if it sounds plausible and presses people's buttons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goodghost Posted September 29, 2006 Author Report Share Posted September 29, 2006 Just watched a video about the NEW WORLD ORDER Well just how do you explain that nearly all of the Presidents of the USA are or have been a member of the Masonic order. ANNUIT COEPTIS (it's on the US$ bill) with the pyramid of the all seeing eye. Seems JFK wasn't a member so the driver shot him . The video clearly shows the driver turning around firing a shot that only grazes JFK, so he turns round again to fire the fatal shot, JFK was killed at the Apex of Pyramid. Painted in the Renaissance, the painting depicts liberty in the foreground with an archway overhead, in the background you can see Soloman's two towers. Jachin & Boaz. Note that there are also two pyramids in the background. A symbol of the World Trade Center? http://www.uscrusade.com/911/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiamHotel Posted September 29, 2006 Report Share Posted September 29, 2006 ok guyz: Conspiracy 1 - Truth 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiamHotel Posted September 29, 2006 Report Share Posted September 29, 2006 xo what[t] ?? -- Zorohaxtro / slash / a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted September 30, 2006 Report Share Posted September 30, 2006 Just watched a video about the NEW WORLD ORDERWell just how do you explain that nearly all of the Presidents of the USA are or have been a member of the Masonic order. ANNUIT COEPTIS (it's on the US$ bill) with the pyramid of the all seeing eye. Seems JFK wasn't a member so the driver shot him . The video clearly shows the driver turning around firing a shot that only grazes JFK, so he turns round again to fire the fatal shot, JFK was killed at the Apex of Pyramid. Painted in the Renaissance, the painting depicts liberty in the foreground with an archway overhead, in the background you can see Soloman's two towers. Jachin & Boaz. Note that there are also two pyramids in the background. A symbol of the World Trade Center? http://www.uscrusade.com/911/ "the video clearly shows..." "a symbol of the world trade center...." HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAA LSD is a hell of a drug innit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loburt Posted September 30, 2006 Report Share Posted September 30, 2006 ummm....having seen the Zapruder film (the film of JFK getting shot) countless times, it's perfectly clear that the driver did not turn around and shoot him. If the driver turned around and shot him, why didn't Jackie Kennedy, John Connally, Mrs. Connally, the secret service agents and the hundreds of witnesses along the road not see that? Oh, they were all part of the conspiracy too, I bet. Hundreds or random strangers and Jackie Kennedy were all part of it. Sure. Please! Get real. Get a life. Do some homework and basic research. Think, for a change. I've seen the trick with bill being folded and showing the trade center. It is not the trade center. It could be anything. Furthermore, the engraving was made decades ago. Before there was a World Trade Center. How do you explain that, Goodghost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocDre Posted September 30, 2006 Report Share Posted September 30, 2006 www.nexusmagazine.com pretty decent site for a mix of "alternative" media, some stuff is ridiculous, and some very well researched (whether you want to believe any of it or not. click "articles" go middle left to "Wall st. CIA and the Global Drug Trade." Interview with an ex-LAPD Narc. True or not, still compelling. The whole site is pretty entertaining, the interview with Sir Laurence Gardner, about the properties of monatomic gold is good too!!! '> pretty decent site for a mix of "alternative" media, some stuff is ridiculous, and some very well researched (whether you want to believe any of it or not. click "articles" go middle left to "Wall st. CIA and the Global Drug Trade." Interview with an ex-LAPD Narc. True or not, still compelling. The whole site is pretty entertaining, the interview with Sir Laurence Gardner, about the properties of monatomic gold is good too!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocDre Posted September 30, 2006 Report Share Posted September 30, 2006 remember when there circulated rumors especially among the black population ( rap music etc) that CIA was selling drugs in the ghettos...everyone were quick to kill that as a conspiracy theory with no chance of that being true...and now it is clearly documented that the CIA actually were involved in the drug trade in california to finance the Contras among others in Nicaragua....it is not the biggest conspiracy theory ever...if it is to be considered one at all....but still find it highly interesting... Yeah, thats what that article above discusses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DocDre Posted September 30, 2006 Report Share Posted September 30, 2006 Whats wrong with my eyes...my brain....someone is responsible for this....someone is trying to make me look stupid....It is definately not me :shock: It's a conspiracy Bro!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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