Prince Harry's Deployment.

[anenglishman]

yes there's a media bias: TOWARD WHAT PEOPLE WANT TO BUY READ OR WATCH. DUH.

Sex and "bad" news sells........agreed.

political motivation is miniscule compared to the drive for success. and reporters generally do their job to the best of their ability; it's editors and to a larger degree execs who decide what should be reported.

And praytell, what political slant do these editors and execs exhibit in 80 to 90 percent of cases? When it comes to a war we need to win my argument is at the very least cover EVERYTHING (the bad AND the good). These execs want to see America lose to further that agenda and therefore selectively cover only the bad; which I refer to as selective dishonesty.

"80 to 90 percent of cases? hmmmmm at least the hard news, even Action McNews, are less likely to pull statistics out of their ass than you are. feel free to keep making up numbers though.

they want to see america lose? according to what? or is it because you say so. coz this is not what i've seen when i watch action mcnews (which happened up through about april, don't have cable at the moment). so admittedly i'm not backing up my observation but mine is filtered through some small experience with, and contact with, "the media." my perception is that yours is filtered entirely through your political agenda, which as you say, was in place by the 1980s at the latest. you see this as noble i see this as mere rigidity. a question of perspective, no doubt.

the media as much as anyone got us into the war. why? did they want the US to go to war? i doubt it. were they doing it consciously? i doubt that too. the general mood in the US was post-9/11 hysteria, and once the (incorrect) "information" that iraq really, really really has WMDs (obviously they didnt, and dont give me any sh*t about hiindsight, as i have been saying the WMDs were bullshit, supported by scant or nonexistent evidence, since *before* the war.)

it's simple really-- they reported "iraq are a major threat" and "the war in iraq is a disaster" because a) they believed the information accurate at the time and threats and sorrow sell better than "absolutely nothing bad happened in the mission district of san francisco today, and vbroker stopped at his favorite taqueria and had a burrito, which he found quite delicious and satisfying."

some hypothetical scenarios

1.

a) we might be killed by iraqui WMDs we need to crush them.

or

the WMD threat is not as yet supported by concrete evidence, they clearly don't have the capacity to kill us while we investigate further,

2.

a) we're in a ruinous failing war that we stupidly rushed into for nebulous reasons. we need to escape and save our brave young men and women!

or

the war was a bad idea but we really haven't the faintest clue how to fix it. it's a complicated mess.

3.

a) spinach contaminated with (whatever fatal bacteria, i think it was salmonella?) was found in several roach-coaches and taquerias throughout the mission district of san francisco. bombs have gone off in bangkok, and further bomb plots have been thwarted.... so far. another home in the oakland area was invaded by marauding gangstaz. you're not safe anywhere, even in your own home.

vbroker is doing quite well, enjoyed his burrito, and should carry on with his career and plans for his next vacation.

easy question: which do you think people will watch?

next question, which i will, as a courtesy, answer FOR you: why is this question so easy? it's about instincts, not politics.

why on earth would anyone take vbroker seriously? any sensible person would see his post and hit ignore.

[vbroker]

"80 to 90 percent of cases? hmmmmm at least the hard news, even Action McNews, are less likely to pull statistics out of their ass than you are. feel free to keep making up numbers though.

Whether it's 80-90%, 70-80% or 60-70%, the majority are left and far left. But please continue to cloud the reality by making issues of my statistical accuracy.

they want to see america lose? according to what? or is it because you say so. coz this is not what i've seen when i watch action mcnews (which happened up through about april, don't have cable at the moment). so admittedly i'm not backing up my observation but mine is filtered through some small experience with, and contact with, "the media." my perception is that yours is filtered entirely through your political agenda, which as you say, was in place by the 1980s at the latest. you see this as noble i see this as mere rigidity. a question of perspective, no doubt.

Allow me to re-phrase, then. Success in Iraq means success for George W. Bush in particular and Republicans in general. The last thing a liberal wants is Republican success for the 2008 Presidential and Congressional elections. I, too have had small contact with the media and there is no question my politics acts as a filter as it does for everyone else; including you.

...spinach contaminated with (whatever fatal bacteria, i think it was salmonella?) was found in several roach-coaches and taquerias throughout the mission district of san francisco. bombs have gone off in bangkok, and further bomb plots have been thwarted.... so far. another home in the oakland area was invaded by marauding gangstaz. you're not safe anywhere, even in your own home.

...vbroker is doing quite well, enjoyed his burrito, and should carry on with his career and plans for his next vacation.

How did you know I'm a big Mexican taqueria fan? Valencia and 16th street is my taqueria location of choice. But burritos are so blase; I like one every now and then but prefer enchiladas. I am doing quite well; thank you.

why on earth would anyone take vbroker seriously? any sensible person would see his post and hit ignore.

This reminds me of the Democratic presidential candidates led by DNC Chair Howard Dean who have decided to boycott Fox News televised and sponsored debates. You can run but you can't hide. There is a button right next to "ignore" and it is understandable how one can make the mistake of thinking he hit one when in fact he hit the other. They look very similar and one may lead to the other. Replace the "e" with "ant" and you'll see what I mean.

Hahahahaha. Vey nice. But I think you wouldn't know what to do with her if she were laying on your bed as your "Thai family" were watching the tube in the other room.

I'm glad the prince has been ordered to stay out of Iraq. Too distracting for him and the others around him. I'll bet he'd know what to do the girl above.

[Loburt]

And praytell, what political slant do these editors and execs exhibit in 80 to 90 percent of cases? When it comes to a war we need to win my argument is at the very least cover EVERYTHING (the bad AND the good). These execs want to see America lose to further that agenda and therefore selectively cover only the bad; which I refer to as selective dishonesty.

Most editors for major news organizations are making six figure salaries and rarely leave the newsroom. Many, if not most, tend to be fairly conservative, even if they didn't start out that way.

Most reporters, when covering stories, tend to come in contact with people who are getting the short end of the stick. They tend to sympathize with the underdog. Many are moderate to liberal.

This tends to create a healthy tension in the newsroom, with most reports at major news organizations achieving a reasonable degree of balance.

These are broad generalizations, of course, but having worked with hundreds of editors and reporters it is a more accurate characterization of most newsrooms than your viewpoint on the matter, which I refer to as consistent and total dishonesty.

[vbroker]

"80 to 90 percent of cases? hmmmmm at least the hard news, even Action McNews, are less likely to pull statistics out of their ass than you are. feel free to keep making up numbers though.

Whether it's 80-90%, 70-80% or 60-70%, the majority are left and far left. But please continue to cloud the reality by making issues of my statistical accuracy.

Hmmm. Looks like I shouldn't have adjusted my "statistics out of my ass" downward. Looks like my initial estimation, which granted, I did zero research on, was a tad on the conservative side and a full month before this came out:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19113485

Notice that ain't Fox News reporting this pearl. That's MSNBC; the most liberal (and whose ratings are by far the worst) of the three U.S. cable networks. So much for my "making up numbers."

Most editors for major news organizations are making six figure salaries and rarely leave the newsroom. Many, if not most, tend to be fairly conservative, even if they didn't start out that way.

So, they started out as poor, liberal reporters and magically morphed into conservative editors upon earning $100 - 200K? That may be the case in a few, rare instances; but the majority? I doubt it.

These are broad generalizations, of course, but having worked with hundreds of editors and reporters it is a more accurate characterization of most newsrooms than your viewpoint on the matter, which I refer to as consistent and total dishonesty.

The link above offers specific contradiction to this statement. Further, considering the "broad generalizations" come from yet another hard-left journalist that considers the center-left mindset (if there is such a thing) "mainstream" (it isn't), it's quite clear where the consistent and total dishonesty lies.

"MSNBC.com identified 144 journalists who made political contributions from 2004 through the start of the 2008 campaign, according to the public records of the Federal Election Commission. Most of the newsroom checkbooks leaned to the left: 125 journalists gave to Democrats and liberal causes. Only 17 gave to Republicans. Two gave to both parties." The math: 125 of 144 is 86.8%.

Please forgive this has little or nothing to do with Prince Harry.

[CiaranM]

"MSNBC.com identified 144 journalists who made political contributions from 2004 through the start of the 2008 campaign, according to the public records of the Federal Election Commission. Most of the newsroom checkbooks leaned to the left: 125 journalists gave to Democrats and liberal causes. Only 17 gave to Republicans. Two gave to both parties." The math: 125 of 144 is 86.8%.

Please forgive this has little or nothing to do with Prince Harry.

have u actually read the article before u posted the link ??

to try and claim this proves bias in actual "news reporting" is typical of the bullshit u try to present as facts !!!

[vbroker]

"MSNBC.com identified 144 journalists who made political contributions from 2004 through the start of the 2008 campaign, according to the public records of the Federal Election Commission. Most of the newsroom checkbooks leaned to the left: 125 journalists gave to Democrats and liberal causes. Only 17 gave to Republicans. Two gave to both parties." The math: 125 of 144 is 86.8%.

Please forgive this has little or nothing to do with Prince Harry.

have u actually read the article before u posted the link ??

to try and claim this proves bias in actual "news reporting" is typical of the bullshit u try to present as facts !!!

A Night out...

Speaking of typical bullsh*t, your rumored tendency to mysteriously vanish upon bill presentation also serves to show one places value on money. Some more than others. Whether it's several 35 Baht Changs you consumed then skipped out on or a $2000.00 donation to your choice political party/representative, they spring from similar motivations.

There is a reason prosecutors and defense attorneys spend a great deal of time vetting a jury pool. Bias. There is a reason there are restrictive campaign finance laws. Bias. There is a reason some news disemminators prohibit their employees from making political donations. Bias. It would be bad enough if the liberal to conservative political donation ratio were 2 to 1 or 3 to 1. But 9 to 1? Leave it to the blind to dispute what is as plain as day.

In short, it appears you're talented executing an exit strategy when the bill arrives but you wouldn't recognize a fact if it backhanded your face.

[zeusbheld]

"MSNBC.com identified 144 journalists who made political contributions from 2004 through the start of the 2008 campaign, according to the public records of the Federal Election Commission. Most of the newsroom checkbooks leaned to the left: 125 journalists gave to Democrats and liberal causes. Only 17 gave to Republicans. Two gave to both parties." The math: 125 of 144 is 86.8%.

Please forgive this has little or nothing to do with Prince Harry.

have u actually read the article before u posted the link ??

to try and claim this proves bias in actual "news reporting" is typical of the bullshit u try to present as facts !!!

comical really. and ham-handed. *yawn.*

[CiaranM]

"MSNBC.com identified 144 journalists who made political contributions from 2004 through the start of the 2008 campaign, according to the public records of the Federal Election Commission. Most of the newsroom checkbooks leaned to the left: 125 journalists gave to Democrats and liberal causes. Only 17 gave to Republicans. Two gave to both parties." The math: 125 of 144 is 86.8%.

Please forgive this has little or nothing to do with Prince Harry.

have u actually read the article before u posted the link ??

to try and claim this proves bias in actual "news reporting" is typical of the bullshit u try to present as facts !!!

A Night out...

Speaking of typical bullsh*t, your rumored tendency to mysteriously vanish upon bill presentation also serves to show one places value on money. Some more than others. Whether it's several 35 Baht Changs you consumed then skipped out on or a $2000.00 donation to your choice political party/representative, they spring from similar motivations.

There is a reason prosecutors and defense attorneys spend a great deal of time vetting a jury pool. Bias. There is a reason there are restrictive campaign finance laws. Bias. There is a reason some news disemminators prohibit their employees from making political donations. Bias. It would be bad enough if the liberal to conservative political donation ratio were 2 to 1 or 3 to 1. But 9 to 1? Leave it to the blind to dispute what is as plain as day.

In short, it appears you're talented executing an exit strategy when the bill arrives but you wouldn't recognize a fact if it backhanded your face.

how f**king pathetic r u ?? nobody pays the bill when they go drinking with Stu .... it's the only way he gets ppl to actually drink with him !!

now the survey quoted is 144 journalists over a 4 year period ... how representative is that of the media as a whole ?? and how the f**k can u try to present it as a fact !!

ahhhh .... i forgot .... u r one of the guys who think iraq was behind 9/11 and still had WMD !!! f**king half wit !!

[steevolution]

I am just a Dumb fuc*in Aussie so forgive me if I bore you all

I am confused. Prince wots his mname wants to defens his country

Good for him, Hang on a minute Is he an Iraqie or a POME, If he is an Iraqie

good for him, but i suspect he a a Bleedin POME so WTF he should be in England not Iraq............or is he using an Irish American map lol

Any way I dont give a sh*t he can go get killed or not for mine

All I want is our BOYS home and to live in a Republic................

We already have enough Queens in Australia with out Importing Old Used ones

Gav ur more intelligent than i gave u credit for... sort of a rustic Aussie intelligence. Wait, Aussie intelligence, is that an oxymoron?

"MSNBC.com identified 144 journalists who made political contributions from 2004 through the start of the 2008 campaign, according to the public records of the Federal Election Commission. Most of the newsroom checkbooks leaned to the left: 125 journalists gave to Democrats and liberal causes. Only 17 gave to Republicans. Two gave to both parties." The math: 125 of 144 is 86.8%.

the math: only severely deluded working people give money to the Amerikkkan Republican party. u gotta be an idiot.

the difference between Republicans and Democrats:

DEMOCRATS GIVE millions to the rich and NICKLES and DIMES TO the POOR. REPUBLICANS give millions to the rich and TAKE nickles and dimes FROM the POOR.

Veeblebroken, u wanna be a POWERBROKER soooooo BAD. but you never will be. yor role in life is to lick arse from here until next sunday, and by then it'll be dirty agin and you'll haveta start all over. lick away, boy.

[zeusbheld]

"MSNBC.com identified 144 journalists who made political contributions from 2004 through the start of the 2008 campaign, according to the public records of the Federal Election Commission. Most of the newsroom checkbooks leaned to the left: 125 journalists gave to Democrats and liberal causes. Only 17 gave to Republicans. Two gave to both parties." The math: 125 of 144 is 86.8%.

so you're saying that, if a journalist personally has political leanings they don't have enough professional integrity to do their job?

so i guess that means, to be fair, that you as a broker would steal the money of a demoncrat client? rip them off? or are you just a hypocrite who thinks brokers have more professional integrity than journalists?

more bullshit, thanks. *yawn*.

[steevolution]

The man is ginger and women still love him, you have to respect that.

who gives a sh*t as to what happens to the parasite !!!

and a f**king ginger one at that !!!

what's this all about? back home in amerikka, we have some sayins, like "He beat im like a red-headed stepchild." but there isn't what seems to be a Brit/Irish hatred of redheads.

do strawberry blonds qualify for the hatred? what's this all about? i really don't understand. are redheads seen as some kind of curse or Devil's calling card (cause they can pop up when neither parent is red headed)? in the US redheads sometimes have the rep of being hot-headed(or passionate), but this hatred is new to me.

how would J.P. Donleavy's title of "the Gingerman" relate to this? (i just thought it meant the guy had red hair. i didn't realize there might be other baggage.)

[zeusbheld]

"MSNBC.com identified 144 journalists who made political contributions from 2004 through the start of the 2008 campaign, according to the public records of the Federal Election Commission. Most of the newsroom checkbooks leaned to the left: 125 journalists gave to Democrats and liberal causes. Only 17 gave to Republicans. Two gave to both parties." The math: 125 of 144 is 86.8%.

Please forgive this has little or nothing to do with Prince Harry.

have u actually read the article before u posted the link ??

to try and claim this proves bias in actual "news reporting" is typical of the bullshit u try to present as facts !!!

A Night out...

Speaking of typical bullsh*t, your rumored tendency to mysteriously vanish upon bill presentation also serves to show one places value on money. Some more than others. Whether it's several 35 Baht Changs you consumed then skipped out on or a $2000.00 donation to your choice political party/representative, they spring from similar motivations. ....

In short, it appears you're talented executing an exit strategy when the bill arrives but you wouldn't recognize a fact if it backhanded your face.

trading in gossip, are we nancy? classy, really classy.

the award goes to vbroker :arrow: oiliest post of 2007

[steevolution]

why on earth would anyone take vbroker seriously? any sensible person would see his post and hit ignore.

the scary thing is what percentage of the US population of 300 million think similarly to or just like him.

you have to remember that you're talking about a place where 80% of the people don't have passports. the vast majority of americans have never been out of the country, nor do they have any desire to.

the vast majority speak only english, and get their news/views of the world from the mainstream mouthpiece media that channel the centerspeak line. for instance the "america under attack, weapons of mass destruction, stop Saddam before Al Queda strikes again" krazy kaleidoscope condition orange jump-on-the-tarbaby-with-both-feet-boogie that got em where they are today:

shearing the american taxpayer to line the pockets of the military/industrial complex.

"why/how can the rest of the world hate us? we've got history's most perfect form of government, history's most perfect economic system. we just wanna help everyone! all those brown folks must just be ignorant. all they need is educatin and a valid religion."

this is what they think in the heartland. they've been spoonfed this crap all their lives. FULL SPEED AHEAD.

but they're a little less sure of themselves every day. cause they're not stupid.

[vbroker]

"MSNBC.com identified 144 journalists who made political contributions from 2004 through the start of the 2008 campaign, according to the public records of the Federal Election Commission. Most of the newsroom checkbooks leaned to the left: 125 journalists gave to Democrats and liberal causes. Only 17 gave to Republicans. Two gave to both parties." The math: 125 of 144 is 86.8%.

Please forgive this has little or nothing to do with Prince Harry.

have u actually read the article before u posted the link ??

to try and claim this proves bias in actual "news reporting" is typical of the bullshit u try to present as facts !!!

A Night out...

Speaking of typical bullsh*t, your rumored tendency to mysteriously vanish upon bill presentation also serves to show one places value on money. Some more than others. Whether it's several 35 Baht Changs you consumed then skipped out on or a $2000.00 donation to your choice political party/representative, they spring from similar motivations. ....

In short, it appears you're talented executing an exit strategy when the bill arrives but you wouldn't recognize a fact if it backhanded your face.

trading in gossip, are we nancy? classy, really classy.

the award goes to vbroker :arrow: oiliest post of 2007

A brilliant use of analogy. Be careful not to trip, fall and then look like this:

Did anybody say retard?

Check the mirror.

Surely vbroker is making jokes...

At your expense. Wait....it gets better.

He's an intelligent person...

Now we're in total agreement. The last time; I'm certain.

Elected iraqi officials? LOL

I guess you missed the Iraqi election's global coverage and the post-vote black ink dipped index fingers. Even Jimmy Carter concurred. What....no TV at your bar girl's 4000 Baht/month shared apartment? Pity.

Did you know that in 1938 the "elected czech officials" invited the german troops into their country? No resistance, obviously the czech people LOVED Hitler and his huge army.

Reminds me of the Spanish electorate three days after the coordinated train bombing in which some 200+ people were killed. Pro America and Terror War advocate Jose Maria Aznar led the polls just prior to this event yet somehow anti-Terror War Zapatero swept to power and kept his promise to pull what few Spanish troops there were in Iraq. Hmm, I wonder what happened? Here we call that "capitulation." An entire population handing al-Qaeda a major victory; thus encouraging (or "inviting" to use your term) additional terrorist attacks elsewhere hoping for similar outcomes. Aye carumba. Is that what you do in a boxing match when your opponent tags you with a solid right? Turn and run with your tail between your legs? Stay out of the ring then. I am just shocked you come from Spain. SHOCKED. Not.

Have you ever thought about the possibility that the iraqi people don't want the U.S. troops in their country? It's not just a few islamist who want to be free of american opression, it's all of Iraq pretty much. Oh no wait, it's more than half of the planet earth!! And it's been like that for a long long time!

Hahahahahaha!! American oppression!!! Hahahahaha!!! That's hysterical. But then this comes from a 21 year old who appears to have decided moving to Thailand full-time was a brilliant career decision. FYI: working the girls down from 2000 to 1000 Baht short time will NOT qualify as a "negotiation skill" on your resume, hansum young man.

But you,vbroker, just sit back and keep watching your TV with it's "lefty" newschannels, and truthful, democratic and free informations!!

I'll assume English is your second language and therefore won't trash your grasp (or lack thereof) of grammar and presentation. Don't forget I like to "sit back" and ridicule posts like these and have great pity for the stunted and decaying brains this sort of nonsense must originate from.

To the rest of us you belong into a category of people that are... well... you wouldn't understand.

Whatever you say, Don Quixote. Keep moving toward the windmills, Mr. Enlightenment.

[eagle]

Yea Zeus he is a winner :roll:

[steevolution]

Reminds me of the Spanish electorate three days after the coordinated train bombing in which some 200+ people were killed. Pro America and Terror War advocate Jose Maria Aznar led the polls just prior to this event yet somehow anti-Terror War Zapatero swept to power and kept his promise to pull what few Spanish troops there were in Iraq. Hmm, I wonder what happened? Here we call that "capitulation." An entire population handing al-Qaeda a major victory; thus encouraging (or "inviting" to use your term) additional terrorist attacks elsewhere hoping for similar outcomes. Aye carumba. Is that what you do in a boxing match when your opponent tags you with a solid right? Turn and run with your tail between your legs? Stay out of the ring then. I am just shocked you come from Spain. SHOCKED. Not.

man you are not even a Rear Echelon Mother F*kkr. at least they are SOMEWHERE NEAR the fight. here you want to stand behind the women and children, grandmothers in Spain and tell them "stand for us till your last drop of blood!"?!?

Australia is pulling out too. you gonna stand behind em, peeping over their shoulders and call them cowards?

the US is leaning with all its might, trying to get other countries to send troops. nobody is stupid enough to.

this thing was started by coldblooded a**holes just like you. never been anywhere near anykind of a fight, had Daddy and everybody else pull all kinds of strings to keep them far away and safe from danger, but they're always so tough and quick to puff out their chests and say, "i want YOU to fight HIM".

[zeusbheld]

"MSNBC.com identified 144 journalists who made political contributions from 2004 through the start of the 2008 campaign, according to the public records of the Federal Election Commission. Most of the newsroom checkbooks leaned to the left: 125 journalists gave to Democrats and liberal causes. Only 17 gave to Republicans. Two gave to both parties." The math: 125 of 144 is 86.8%.

Please forgive this has little or nothing to do with Prince Harry.

have u actually read the article before u posted the link ??

to try and claim this proves bias in actual "news reporting" is typical of the bullshit u try to present as facts !!!

A Night out...

Speaking of typical bullsh*t, your rumored tendency to mysteriously vanish upon bill presentation also serves to show one places value on money. Some more than others. Whether it's several 35 Baht Changs you consumed then skipped out on or a $2000.00 donation to your choice political party/representative, they spring from similar motivations. ....

In short, it appears you're talented executing an exit strategy when the bill arrives but you wouldn't recognize a fact if it backhanded your face.

trading in gossip, are we nancy? classy, really classy.

the award goes to vbroker :arrow: oiliest post of 2007

A brilliant use of analogy. Be careful not to trip, fall and then look like this:

don't need the demo, your trip-and-fall was perfectly executed. you even managed to land in a pile of ****. keystone-cop-worthy. well played (from an entertainment point of view).

[kaunitz]

Australia is pulling out too. you gonna stand behind em, peeping over their shoulders and call them cowards?

Australia is merely shifting its attention away from Iraq and focusing on the real mission at hand, Afghanistan. The commitment Australia had in Iraq was really on paper only, but "training personnel" remain - you know, the type who wear their hair long, grow beards and walk around with all the gear and get the job done - as well as a small protection force. It would be good if the US begins to do the same and invest in Afghanistan who are in desperate need of it. Leaving it up to NATO and their merry band of useless European nations too sh*t scared to do anything will only revert the place into a semi-feudal oligarchy...

In Afghanistan, the US failed miserably. This would not be the big shame once one says that they did not know about the habits and culture down there (hmm, what's about the different secret services???), had they not done exactly the same to Iraq two years later, showing that they are not able to learn at all! I was in Afghanistan in 2002 and I will go there again in four weeks. Will tell you about the changes - most probably no good news!

[CiaranM]

Reminds me of the Spanish electorate three days after the coordinated train bombing in which some 200+ people were killed. Pro America and Terror War advocate Jose Maria Aznar led the polls just prior to this event yet somehow anti-Terror War Zapatero swept to power and kept his promise to pull what few Spanish troops there were in Iraq. Hmm, I wonder what happened? Here we call that "capitulation." An entire population handing al-Qaeda a major victory; thus encouraging (or "inviting" to use your term) additional terrorist attacks elsewhere hoping for similar outcomes. Aye carumba. Is that what you do in a boxing match when your opponent tags you with a solid right? Turn and run with your tail between your legs? Stay out of the ring then. I am just shocked you come from Spain. SHOCKED. Not.

u r off course aware that the government in spain lied to the ppl as to who was responsible for the bombings don't u and this is what turned the electorate against them ?? but then the facts don't usually suit ur agenda do they ??

just because u r f**king dumb enough to vote for politicians who feed u fairy stories doesn't mean everybody else is !!

[vbroker]

I had a feeling this kid would be sent to serve. He stated he didn't endure all the special ops training to sit at a desk position; he wanted to be deployed. The only way to get it done would be to say they've reconsidered and canceled his and his unit's deployment....wait several months for the story to die down and then quietly deploy them to Afghanistan. This kid is a stud....I don't care what y'all naysayers say about him or the cause. Thanks to you and your unit for your continued service, Prince Harry.

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1307389,00.html

[mdmx33]

good luck to harry

[drjones]

I really feel sorry for him, he wants to deploy but due to politics and his connections he cant. He has changed trades, now to pilot. I just hope he gets his chance, but I?m sure they wont let him sas they cant get 4 body guards in a tornado lol.

[steevolution]

"training personnel" remain - you know, the type who wear their hair long, grow beards and walk around with all the gear and get the job done

some stuff Lizardo was nice enough to put up in his journal made it clear that the use of these types of people that "get the job done", this whole mentality of killing to solve your problems and get your way, is largely the root cause of the **** the world finds itself mired in right now.

"getting the job done" is a euphemism for killing people, usually because they do things differently or think differently than what the govts that employ the people that "get the job done" would prefer. but as the a**hole that killed Vito Corleone's father found out, u better be willing to kill all the relatives, women and children included, or they will come back to haunt you. especially in that part of the world, Afghanistan and the bordering parts of Pakistan, thru Iran and into the Arab world. they've been holding grudges and fightin feuds for thousands of years, their cultures have a huge component of it, and the US and any govt stupid enough to go along went and stuck their *** in the wringer BIGTIME. the invasion of Iraq is going to go down as the greatest US military blunder of all time. (the warprofiteers meanwhile, will smile all the way to the bank, as they always do, and the taxpayers' assholes will bleed).