Al Gore wins Nobel Peace Prize

[zeusbheld]

Coming from someone who finds Slurms entertaining.

the jerry springer show is entertaining. al gore speaking about al gore, isn't. and in terms of documentary-as-fimmaking, it wasn't exactly erroll morris type stuff was it ("fog of war" for example is a serious politics-oriented doc that was quite riveting, for example).

Fog of War was duller than dog sh*t.

but dog **** is more exciting than al gore's movie.

[Loburt]

Cant' agree. And I think the number of people who have bought or watched it would suggest the contrary.

[zeusbheld]

Cant' agree. And I think the number of people who have bought or watched it would suggest the contrary.

if the number of people who have bought something determines its quality, those guys who sung "the macarena" are MUCH better than charlie parker was.

[Loburt]

I said "suggests" not proves.

Charlie Parker could be pretty boring at times too. But that's not an endorsement of The Macarena.

[zeusbheld]

I said "suggests" not proves.

Charlie Parker could be pretty boring at times too. But that's not an endorsement of The Macarena.

a case could be made the macarena is boring... but will never win a nobel prize.

if there was one for music, bird could, boring or not.

point of all this being, gore got the award for relentlessly putting the message out there, not for making a good film (not that it was bad, just boring).

i suspect the same with the oscar, hollywood types tend to wish they were doing something useful for the human world and get all moist when someone tries.

[WHISKERS]

. . .

I understand Jeb Bush intercepted the "Prize" and gave it to his brother!!!

[vbroker]

Meteorologist Dr William Gray

[Loburt]

William Jennings Bryan

[zeusbheld]

Meteorologist Dr William Gray

if you're citing meteorologists, that's pretty incriminating.

it implies you don't know the difference between climate and weather.

as usual you don't even make it to the starting gate on the global warming conversation dearie.

[GoldMember]

Al Gore wins Nobel Peace Prize

since when that Noble Prize become a competition?

Probably about the same time bookmakers starting offering odds on who would win it . :wink:

[stegee]

Gore is a total flake. I didnt vote that term because it was one-sided the whole way. Bush or Gore? How bout pistol to head. This term aint looking any better/ Clinton or boraka? u think america's been talked about alot lately over this so called war in iraq? Just wait a few yrs and see where america is headed. Not so pretty future. Back to topic--------- nobal peace prize? I dig his thing on climate change. Cool and everyone should be aware of these things and the whole world should go green yes? I agree. But it seems anyone these days could sh*t in a bag put it on tv and get some kinda award, prize, emmy, oscar, etc. I love my country, but being here i really do not miss the BS of media and news and hype about GARBAGE.

another apathetic non-voter!! they get what they deserve- the right to say 'well i didn't vote for him'!!:roll:

[CiaranM]

Meteorologist Dr William Gray

if you're citing meteorologists, that's pretty incriminating.

it implies you don't know the difference between climate and weather.

as usual you don't even make it to the starting gate on the global warming conversation dearie.

i wonder does vbroker actually read these articles before he posts them this one was f**king funny .... f**k all to do with science but that didn't come as any big surprise !!! btw it's the amount of salt in sea water that's causing global warming .... like we didn't all know that already !!!

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But Dr Gray, whose annual forecasts of the number of tropical storms and hurricanes are widely publicised, said a natural cycle of ocean water temperatures - related to the amount of salt in ocean water - was responsible for the global warming that he acknowledges has taken place.

[zeusbheld]

interesting.

on a related topic, regardless of what you think of richard branson, he *is* putting his money where his mouth is.

i haven't looked into this in detail so i don't know if these biofuels he's talking about really do burn cleaner but we'll still all be better off when we can run aircraft on something besides fossil fuels, especially something renewable.

then we can preserve our remaining petroleum for plastics.

[dannyboy]

then we can preserve our remaining petroleum for plastics.

On a kinda related note, what would Thailand do without plastic ?

Before plastic was invented, what did you guys put food in ? No bags , rubber bands.......nothing.

The mind boggles....... :shock:

[GoldMember]

interesting.

on a related topic, regardless of what you think of richard branson, he *is* putting his money where his mouth is.

i haven't looked into this in detail so i don't know if these biofuels he's talking about really do burn cleaner but we'll still all be better off when we can run aircraft on something besides fossil fuels, especially something renewable.

then we can preserve our remaining petroleum for plastics.

One problem with biofuels is that land which is traditionally used to fuel human beings ,will be converted to power their cars n stuff.Ok for us in developed countries but a bit of a bummer,with an already exponentially growing world population ,if you live in extreme poverty and rely on imported food.

Branson ought to convert his aircraft to pedal power .Use petroleum to get the plane to crusiing altitude and everyone pedals like f**k to keep it airborne .The fly or die concept not only provides great passenger motivation but also a good cardio workout.A classical win-win scenario.

[GoldMember]

Branson ought to convert his aircraft to pedal power .Use petroleum to get the plane to crusiing altitude and everyone pedals like f**k to keep it airborne .The fly or die concept not only provides great passenger motivation but also a good cardio workout.A classical win-win scenario.

I heard he's after launching tourist trips into space in the not too distant future. Early-death motivated pedal power might get you from London to Sydney, but low Earth orbit?

A very big catapult ?

[GoldMember]

Branson ought to convert his aircraft to pedal power .Use petroleum to get the plane to crusiing altitude and everyone pedals like f**k to keep it airborne .The fly or die concept not only provides great passenger motivation but also a good cardio workout.A classical win-win scenario.

I heard he's after launching tourist trips into space in the not too distant future. Early-death motivated pedal power might get you from London to Sydney, but low Earth orbit?

A very big catapult ?

And the motivation would be?

An eco friendly takeoff and if of a suicidal disposition(which presumably would be the case)-a dead cert early death.

[zeusbheld]

Branson ought to convert his aircraft to pedal power .Use petroleum to get the plane to crusiing altitude and everyone pedals like f**k to keep it airborne .The fly or die concept not only provides great passenger motivation but also a good cardio workout.A classical win-win scenario.

I heard he's after launching tourist trips into space in the not too distant future. Early-death motivated pedal power might get you from London to Sydney, but low Earth orbit?

A very big catapult ?

different gearing?

[GoldMember]

Branson ought to convert his aircraft to pedal power .Use petroleum to get the plane to crusiing altitude and everyone pedals like f**k to keep it airborne .The fly or die concept not only provides great passenger motivation but also a good cardio workout.A classical win-win scenario.

I heard he's after launching tourist trips into space in the not too distant future. Early-death motivated pedal power might get you from London to Sydney, but low Earth orbit?

A very big catapult ?

different gearing?

...21 speed Shimano. :wink:

[BenS]

As an american and fairly independent. I still think either there was a lack of peace contestants or a large political influence to the peace prize award. Anyone who has been keeping at least semi up to date on the global warming issues knows that what he did was be nothing other then a popular figure-head for an already know issues with all the same information. I would like to have seen someone with some more innovative or original thoughts into current issues of peace other then what al gore has done. Not to say what he has done hasn't had an effect but the reason the dynamite fund was established for these awards was for innovative and new ideas.

[robbie36]

I believe that the peace prize should be given to someone who actively changes the way we deal with an issue, rather than simply raising awareness.

Properly developed pricing of carbon emissions, through the carbon tax and a trading scheme, is the real policy innovation that has allowed us to address climate change in a way consistent with maintaining economic growth. Why not give the prize for that, and not for a well-meaning documentary?

[Loburt]

I still think either there was a lack of peace contestants or a large political influence to the peace prize award. Anyone who has been keeping at least semi up to date on the global warming issues knows that what he did was be nothing other then a popular figure-head for an already know issues with all the same information. I would like to have seen someone with some more innovative or original thoughts into current issues of peace other then what al gore has done. Not to say what he has done hasn't had an effect but the reason the dynamite fund was established for these awards was for innovative and new ideas.

I believe that the peace prize should be given to someone who actively changes the way we deal with an issue, rather than simply raising awareness.

Properly developed pricing of carbon emissions, through the carbon tax and a trading scheme, is the real policy innovation that has allowed us to address climate change in a way consistent with maintaining economic growth. Why not give the prize for that, and not for a well-meaning documentary?

I think the Nobel committee has the best idea of what the criteria for the prize is. A previous winner was also an environmental activist - from Africa. And I would think there are always political considerations when awarding a prize for peace. If you're suggesting there was something corrupt about the process, the onus is on you to prove it instead of raising baseless suspicions.

And there wasn't much awareness on this issue when he started his evangelizing on it. He was way out in front on this, contrary to your perception. He's a big reason this issue is well known. He has made a difference.

He wasn't given the award - which as others noted was shared - simply for the documentary. But for devoting the past several years of his life traveling and speaking to countless people in order to raise awareness and inspire action on this issue. (Did he make money doing it? Yes. That's not a crime. He could have made far more in the corporate world, and it's a far more honorable way to make money than what Bush the elder is doing with the Carlyle Group.)

I doubt there would be much, if any, support for the carbon tax if Al Gore, and others like him, weren't raising awareness.

There is a Nobel prize for economics, is there not? Give the carbon tax innovators that award.