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no parties at your house, i guess..........no air-cond? :roll:

I regularly have party at my house... sooner i will have "belgian beer bottle open"'s party. :-) Nope.. no aircon.

Why no air-con? So hard to survive high April temperatures...

I can living well in warm climate, i born in tropics zone.

Kokubo Rock Ice

What is that ? Is it easy addicted ? If so, i wont touch it.. ( dotn want to addict to anything ;-) )

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no parties at your house, i guess..........no air-cond? :roll:

I regularly have party at my house... sooner i will have "belgian beer bottle open"'s party. :-) Nope.. no aircon.

Why no air-con? So hard to survive high April temperatures...

I can living well in warm climate, i born in tropics zone.

Kokubo Rock Ice

What is that ? Is it easy addicted ? If so, i wont touch it.. ( dotn want to addict to anything ;-) )

The ice in your basket from the pic... don't you know...?

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you know what I'm Kokubo Rock Ice Addicted lately. I can't live without it.

hey, bcool... I'm curious how's different between Kokubo Rock Ice (12 Baht/1 kilo) and normal ice (7 baht/1.4 kilo)? I found both of them in 7/11... never tried Kokubo Rock Ice yet... i will try soon. But i just raise the point here.

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you know what I'm Kokubo Rock Ice Addicted lately. I can't live without it.

hey, bcool... I'm curious how's different between Kokubo Rock Ice (12 Baht/1 kilo) and normal ice (7 baht/1.4 kilo)? I found both of them in 7/11... never tried Kokubo Rock Ice yet... i will try soon. But i just raise the point here.

difference is 7 baht per kilo !!! :D:D:D

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you know what I'm Kokubo Rock Ice Addicted lately. I can't live without it.

hey, bcool... I'm curious how's different between Kokubo Rock Ice (12 Baht/1 kilo) and normal ice (7 baht/1.4 kilo)? I found both of them in 7/11... never tried Kokubo Rock Ice yet... i will try soon. But i just raise the point here.

difference is 7 baht per kilo !!! :D:D:D

:shock: at those rates i think i'll stick with the aircon. it's cheaper.

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you know what I'm Kokubo Rock Ice Addicted lately. I can't live without it.

hey, bcool... I'm curious how's different between Kokubo Rock Ice (12 Baht/1 kilo) and normal ice (7 baht/1.4 kilo)? I found both of them in 7/11... never tried Kokubo Rock Ice yet... i will try soon. But i just raise the point here.

difference is 7 baht per kilo !!! :D:D:D

ha ha!!! CiaranM..u made me laugh :D ... and confused either ha ha...

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you know what I'm Kokubo Rock Ice Addicted lately. I can't live without it.

hey, bcool... I'm curious how's different between Kokubo Rock Ice (12 Baht/1 kilo) and normal ice (7 baht/1.4 kilo)? I found both of them in 7/11... never tried Kokubo Rock Ice yet... i will try soon. But i just raise the point here.

difference is 7 baht per kilo !!! :D:D:D

:shock: at those rates i think i'll stick with the aircon. it's cheaper.

ammm..Zbh...i'm not sure about average cost per hour for aircon.... it might be more expensive... dont you think??

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I have aircon but it's so terribly old it was probably created even before the aircon was invented and keeps you up all night long because it is so damn noisy. So I use a big ass fan instead. Cold shower is nice to do too ...cold coz I don't have a choice really since there is no heater installed.

I BOUGHT A SMALL ONE THOUGH!!! but when it comes to elctronic wiring etc I'm "not too good Al" so if anyone reading this and thinks he can install it holler at me :idea:

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you know what I'm Kokubo Rock Ice Addicted lately. I can't live without it.

hey, bcool... I'm curious how's different between Kokubo Rock Ice (12 Baht/1 kilo) and normal ice (7 baht/1.4 kilo)? I found both of them in 7/11... never tried Kokubo Rock Ice yet... i will try soon. But i just raise the point here.

difference is 7 baht per kilo !!! :D:D:D

:shock: at those rates i think i'll stick with the aircon. it's cheaper.

ammm..Zbh...i'm not sure about average cost per hour for aircon.... it might be more expensive... dont you think??

depends on how much ice you use... don't you think? ;)

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eat somtam and drink coca cola :wink:

:shock: that must be the idea, Cate. Last week i went for somtam lunch near office a girl with me she orderred coke with it. She said she normally doesnt drink "Naam ud lom" ( any kinds of soda sweet drinks ) but when it comes to somtam she will drink it cola only.. :lol:

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The ice in your basket from the pic... don't you know...?

:shock: Mai roooooooooo.. :oops:

Never know that it's called Kokubo Rock Ice (12 Baht) i know its 100% more expensive than normal ice but i like it, especially the sound of it when i put in the glass and stir .. :P

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Hey, Zbh

I got info... from www.energy.go.th (Ministry of Energy, Thailand)...how to calculate electricity charge for AC

Here is an example;

Window type AC, mostly in house, condo, apartment and (small) office.

Let say...

- its size about 24,000 bth/h or 2 tons of cooling load (1 ton of cooling load = 12,000 bth/h).

- 4 hours used

- for AC, it uses 1 unit/1 ton/ 1 hour (approximately)

---> 1 unit x 2 tons x 4 hours = 8 units

----> it costs 3 baht/ unit ..... so it costs you about 24 baht/ 4 hours (8 units x 3 baht) or 6 baht per hour...i might say

So.... you can make decision now which one is more expensive or convenient :wink:

between Kokubo Rock Ice (12 Baht/1 kilo), normal ice (7 baht/1.4 kilo) and AC (6 baht/ hour ..for this type)

sorry if i made it so complicated.... i wanna know it personally..so i find its info :wink: .... and share you guys... hope you dont mind

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Hey, Zbh

I got info... from www.energy.go.th (Ministry of Energy, Thailand)...how to calculate electricity charge for AC

Here is an example;

Window type AC, mostly in house, condo, apartment and (small) office.

Let say...

- its size about 24,000 bth/h or 2 tons of cooling load (1 ton of cooling load = 12,000 bth/h).

- 4 hours used

- for AC, it uses 1 unit/1 ton/ 1 hour (approximately)

---> 1 unit x 2 tons x 4 hours = 8 units

----> it costs 3 baht/ unit ..... so it costs you about 24 baht/ 4 hours (8 units x 3 baht) or 6 baht per hour...i might say

So.... you can make decision now which one is more expensive or convenient :wink:

between Kokubo Rock Ice (12 Baht/1 kilo), normal ice (7 baht/1.4 kilo) and AC (6 baht/ hour ..for this type)

sorry if i made it so complicated.... i wanna know it personally..so i find its info :wink: .... and share you guys... hope you dont mind

This is really informative AAAum.. eventhough its cost me 12 b. / 1 Kilo and i buy it everage once a week..

You deserved triple A plus :D

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I hate air conditioning most of the time and try to avoid it.

My house has air-con throughout, but I prefer the ceiling fans most of the time, doors wide open to this beautiful private garden.

But a house needs to be well designed for the tropics in order to have light and shade and create air circulation. Most 'farang-styled' houses being built these days in Thailand are not really designed for this climate at all and I cannot understand why so many 'architects' here dismiss traditional designs in favour of European 'fashions'.

When i sleep, I like to have all the windows open and can smell the garden and have fresh air. I have a ceiling fan above my bed.

Only in my office area at home do I use air-con, mainy because of the computer etc.

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But a house needs to be well designed for the tropics in order to have light and shade and create air circulation. Most 'farang-styled' houses being built these days in Thailand are not really designed for this climate at all and I cannot understand why so many 'architects' here dismiss traditional designs in favour of European 'fashions'..

TRUE.

the newer, trendy, psuedo-euro houses are ass-ugly as well.

the shophouses aren't much better, though. tend to have no windows, no air circulation, etc.

the traditional houses are best, although if made of wood, risk termites....

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But a house needs to be well designed for the tropics in order to have light and shade and create air circulation. Most 'farang-styled' houses being built these days in Thailand are not really designed for this climate at all and I cannot understand why so many 'architects' here dismiss traditional designs in favour of European 'fashions'..

TRUE.

the newer, trendy, psuedo-euro houses are ass-ugly as well.

the shophouses aren't much better, though. tend to have no windows, no air circulation, etc.

the traditional houses are best, although if made of wood, risk termites....

I lived in an old 'Black and White' colonial house, in the jungle, in Singapore for 6 years. These houses were originally built for the British officers stationed there. They are quite similar to the Dutch colonial houses found in Indonesia, particularly in Jakarta and the ones found in southern India in Kerala.

The house I stayed in had no air-con at all; only ceiling fans everywhere, including on the wide varandahs.

Often these houses were build on 'stilts' allowing air to circulate underneath (and stop snakes coming in!). The deep, wide varandahs around the house created constant shade. Louvered windows created even more draft.

On all the floors were mostly tiles and some solid teak wood. This surface also kept the house cool under foot.

The only way to live in these houses was to have all windows and doors wide open to the outside all of the time. The extreme sun, next to extreme shadow always created a cool, ever-circulating draft.

In all the years I lived there, I can only recal about 10 days when the heat was very noticable.

In designing these houses, the British and the Dutch looked at local, traditional architecture and adapted it for their own asthetic effect.

How sad that so many Thai architects (and of course Thai people who flock to buy their stupidly designed houses) have thrown away most of the great learnings from their forefathers.

These new places are like prisons, all locked up and shut out from the world with constant air-con blasting away.

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I think about typical city houses. Of course, if you live in the house with big garden and much shadow from trees, or close to sea shore, aircon not necessary. Fan will be enough. But in the city with cars around and exaust fumes...

In singapore I lived 8 mins from the heart of the city, via expressway.

here in Bangkok, I live in the city.

If you go to the heart of cities such as Marrakesh, you will see how houses have been designed 500+ years ago, in very dense situations, but they use the elements, weather and materials to advantage. They are cooler, without the need for any airconditioning.

High rise buildings and low rise houses CAN be designed more effectively to not have to rely on air-con anywhere near as much as they do.

The problem is, for the most part, they are not.

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