The Obama Decepiton

[Stramash]

Why are you so interested in the Brit point of view? How about the $80 million spent per year by the British taxpayers to support the royality that have no true power in England? Your Queen and family live the rich life while the rest of England scrapes by so they can live a lavish lifesyle. What sense does that make in the year 2009? Don't worry aobut US politics, you need to tend to your own garden before you stick your nose in your neighbors! I guess if England is so great you wouldn't find yourself in Thailand avoiding the English taxes! Get real!!!

The money spent on the Queen's duties comes from the Civil List which comes from money generated by The Crown Estates, a statutory corporation, answerable to parliament, that generates about 200 million GBP for the Treasury every year, which exceeds the 40 million GBP cost of the Civil List.

The other money that is received by other members of The Royal Family for official duties is paid back by The Queen out of her private funds.

On top of that The Queen also pays tax just like everyone else. So, The Queen actually earns money for the rest of us, who aren't actually 'scraping by' but enjoy a fairly high standard of living.

Keep telling yourself that...I mean if it makes you feel good.

Royalists and their apologists crack me up.

Then you will turn around and complain about the US.

You may as well just stay quiet after that nonsense. lol

Let's bring back the monarchy to GB....and hell, while we're at it, let's bring it to the US.

Good Lord.

Loathe as I am to agree with those figures, they aren't actually that far off the truth. The Crown Estate does indeed generate around 200 million GBP in revenue yearly (It owns most of Regent Street in London as well as prime Manhattan real estate and other properties)

However, it doesn't change the fact that there are many scroungers and hangers on in the House of Von Windsor. On the tax question, she does pay tax voluntarily, but only on her private income and not the head of state expenditure. Plus she managed to wriggle out of paying inheritance tax when the Queen Mum popped off (a saving of around 20 million GBP)

As well as ownership of vast amounts of agricultural and commercial land, she also owns the entire seabed around the UK, and through the Crown Estate has the right of ownership of all whales and sturgeon washed up on UK beaches!!! (though to my knowledge this right has never been exercised)

Other archaic and outdated laws pertaining to the UK monarchy include the denial of the right of succession to Catholics, Muslims and all non-Protestants, as well as the 1848 Treason Felony act which prohibits any discussion of a move to a Republican government.

The French had the right approach...

[Guest PMike]

I'm sure Obama has some slick political moves in him but those in opposition to him are really desperate to come up with anti Obama messages. Seriously desperate. And with Palin and Limbaugh the repo front runners I can see why.

one side being really stupid does make the other stupid side look better...

[Oo.Cloud.oO]

Welcome to the New Boss. Same as the old boss.

What do you guys think of this?

Really interested in the Brit point of view.

"Obama is but a puppet of the New World Order"

"The world was on the brink of revolution, so they put a black face on the NWO."

my point of view?

or

AMERICANS POINT OF VIEW

dont mind me ranting,

but just like whoever read this, they would in the very least like to see a better outcome for their own country and ppl who live there! I only wish Americans would drop the tv living life and pick up a sign and start protesting, not the Pres, but our government!

to the above quote

i highly agree....

im not an Obama basher and i dont actually HATE bush

and worst of all i hate the saying... NWO

however i believe fully that OBAMA was put where he is - yes elected but YOU reading this would be elected if you had that kind of financial backing and high up ppl behind you!

YES he is highly intelligent, more than qualified, and ofcourse charismatic and the poster boy for "change"

especially being KENYAN, half black, and with the name like

OBAMA HUSSEIN thats like beating the odds stacked high

i give him much credit as i do any president and im not racist or republican or a democrat

I think hes the perfect one to sell the Illusion of "fixing a problem" and sell us the bullshit and walk away with lieing to us like every president has and will...

but i must say i hate ppl who talk about America or Americans or our ways and actions in the world without researching the whole event or story

ignorant assholes

It is the presidents job to bullshit us, and has been - Obama being president was NO accident

McCain? im so f*ckin tired of hearing ppl say him or obama ans bushes name together

Bush wanted to impress his dad, we all knew that and he didnt win the first time by election!

the second time was more like americans sayin hey clean up ur f*ckin mess

big deal

911 was not bushs fault """but i do believe highly two f*ckin planes did NOT bring them towers down""" and it was someone high up involved and in OUR government and im sorry to any Americans reading this (i was in the national gaurd) the amount of victims in 9/11 was no whear near as many as the sh*t we've done OFF the record - meaning off the news! not saying its ok

Mccain? Mccain still thinks what he did in Vietnam was OK, he also thinks droping bombs and killin unarmed innocent civilians is ok...

so why would you want that man as president?

Not sayin he cant run a country. Hell Schwarzenegger is governor...

Obama

ahhhh yea the pretty boy, the good motivated speaker, high charisma, good looking and who can resist that beautiful family and insane promises hes made

who else is like that?

hmmmmm Hitler?

Im no conspiracist---- but IF you look at my government or my federal reserve and you think hmm everything is NOT wall street? everything is not almost 90 percent bullshit?

and you think Americans are ok with it?

then your probably the one who believes everything u hear on MASS MEDIA

The few promises Obama has kept is creating jobs? ONLY if your military or police

adding in fact more taxes

spending in fact MORE money

starting in fact more sh*t with other countries and soon more war

taking troops from IRAQ

only to put them in Afghanistan Iran and in strategic places around Russia and north Korea

oh and he bough that lovely little black dog everyone's talking about that he promised he would

Not obama bashing

stating facts

Most of us AMERICANS ( not the ones who are awake to real sh*t )

see the sh*t going down the toilet

it has been long before BUSH that you all love hating

and it wasn't Clinton fault either but believe that Hilary and bill and this B GROUP who you Alex Jones followers seem to think are running the world

and may be

are strongly behind Obama being where he is and thats real

but i could keep goin on and on and those who believe fox news and other wallstreet owned stations

will continue to scream mccain this bush that obama this

we all kno the smarter of the 3 big f*ckin deal

and we all agree if any OF those 3 should lead anything it should be obama

but what you dont hear is hey alot more the 2 people ran for president

more then ten

and they were highly qualified as well just not financially supported for this over extended campaigning

last off

IF you believe a sitting president is the REAL one in charge of my country

then you really need to read a book or something

swallowing double edged razor blades might help

AMERRRRRRRRICAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

FUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKK

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH

love that song

that cloud guy sure might have a point!

but obamas so handsome and such a swell guy

and such a good speaker

i love all this new legislation

dont u?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaMqdPJf6yE&feature=channel

[eagle]

I'm sure Obama has some slick political moves in him but those in opposition to him are really desperate to come up with anti Obama messages. Seriously desperate. And with Palin and Limbaugh the repo front runners I can see why.

one side being really stupid does make the other stupid side look better...

I agree. Politics is a hustle anyway you look at it. Protect our sacks of cash, but its not their sack of cash.

[zeusbheld]

but i must say i hate ppl who talk about America or Americans or our ways and actions in the world without researching the whole event or story

ignorant assholes

i find it interesting that you follow this quote with some conspiracy mong nonsense. i don't know if you're an a**hole (or care) but you've mastered the ignorant part.

911 was not bushs fault """but i do believe highly two f*ckin planes did NOT bring them towers down"""

and why do you believe this, when there is pretty much zero evidence to support your position?

and it was someone high up involved and in OUR government and im sorry to any Americans reading this (i was in the national gaurd) the amount of victims in 9/11 was no whear near as many as the sh*t we've done OFF the record - meaning off the news!

oh really. strange, some of the victims that didn't exist were people who knew friends of mine. you mind explaining this?

and what shocking revelations do you have as a part-time soldier that someone who lived 2.25 miles from ground zero, who knew firemen, policemen and rescue workers would not be privy to?

until you come up with actual evidence--tangible, solid concrete evidence, NOT hearsay or conjecture--i can't help but classify you as the lowest, most disgusting type of conspiracy mong.

and hey if i cross paths with the surviving brother from Cantor-Fitzgerald i'll be sure to tell him that he can take comfort--his brother, and the people in his firm, no longer existed. and i'll tell my friend that her friend with the art studio in the wtc probably isn't dead; he never existed either.

Im no conspiracist---- but IF you look at my government or my federal reserve and you think hmm everything is NOT wall street? everything is not almost 90 percent bullshit?

and you think Americans are ok with it?

then your probably the one who believes everything u hear on MASS MEDIA

ah, the false dichotomy again (aka the "either/or fallacy."). every dirt-stupid conspiracy mong hides behind this. believe it or not one doesn't have to be spoon-fed by the mass media--or even pay attention to the mass media--to see through all your conspiracy mong drivel.

(hey, you can BE the alternative to the "MASS MEDIA." make a movie like Dylan did! you can call it "loose nut," as dickless Dylan already used "Loose CHange" as his way of pretending to have a film career!)

Most of us AMERICANS ( not the ones who are awake to real sh*t )

see the sh*t going down the toilet

and therein lies the real appeal of being a conspiracy mong, isn't it? your'e in the know. your'e special. all those people who are laughing at you? brainwashed by the MASS MEDIA obviously.

but i could keep goin on and on and those who believe fox news and other wallstreet owned stations

there you go again with false dichotomies.

last off

IF you believe a sitting president is the REAL one in charge of my country

then you really need to read a book or something

swallowing double edged razor blades might help

you hardly seem in a position to admonish *anyone* to read a book, given your abject failure to demonstrate any critical thinking skills and blatant disregard for anything resembling grammar... although the latter can be attributed to the kind of affected pseudo-creativity that people use to give the (often false) impression to strangers on the internet that they actually have a personality. things like avoiding capital letters and over-use of ellipses also fall into that category...

if you believe your conspiracy mong nonsense please lead by example with the double-edged razor blades.

AMERRRRRRRRICAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

FUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKK

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH

love that song

probably the only thing we'll agree on in this thread. maybe ever.

[zeusbheld]

It's always interesting to read any forum thread that contains political views. Seeing yourself as being a representative of a particular country and therefore having opposite views of someone from another, is missing the point somewhat.

There will always be a necessity for some kind of false political separation. How else can countries find a reason for a war? However, at the very top of the decision making process history shows us that leaders from seemingly "waring" countries are often in unison.

The truth is that the leaders of the world we live in have a group "Luciferian mindset". The shared knowledge of how to control energy through kaballism is the key to their success. Their have a strict agenda that will not be redirected or changed through a new US President. Barack Obama's job will be to enforce the agenda, but he will be doing it with a smile and not a snarl!

Many more people are waking up to the fact that the world isn't what they thought it to be. Once your eyes have been opened (as I feel mine have) the symbols of satanism are everywhere to be seen. It really doesn't matter whether you, as an individual, believe in a God(s) or Satan. The people in control of our collective destinies do believe and there religion is Luciferian.

The media and entertainment industries also have a strict agenda and that agenda is full of satanic worship. It's not that difficult to brainwash and hypnotise the general population when the majority of the population will belief most of what they see on their television screens. The events of September 11th, 2001, were complete proof of that.

For those interested, I cannot recommend the series below enough. The makers are Muslim and later in the 50 part series there views are portrayed. I am not religious in any way, but did not find this weakened the information being presented. I never take anything as fact without researching it further. Having looked into most of the subjects covered I can only say don't watch this if you wish to maintain your innocence (naivety) about the world we live in!

The Arrivals

:shock:

the most amazing thing about the internet to me is what it's done for tinfoil hat sales.

[zeusbheld]

that cloud guy sure might have a point!

you mean you can find it in that solid block of word vomit?

what, you thought your post was so impressive it ought to be posted twice? you've GOT to be ******* kidding. or sniffing glue. or both.

[eagle]

that cloud guy sure might have a point!

you mean you can find it in that solid block of word vomit?

what, you thought your post was so impressive it ought to be posted twice? you've GOT to be f*cking kidding. or sniffing glue. or both.

ahh some youthful vigor enters the political arena......

[beej]

that cloud guy sure might have a point!

you mean you can find it in that solid block of word vomit?

what, you thought your post was so impressive it ought to be posted twice? you've GOT to be f*cking kidding. or sniffing glue. or both.

Its the most he's written since leaving school, leave him alone ok!

[i_love_som_tam]

but i must say i hate ppl who talk about America or Americans or our ways and actions in the world without researching the whole event or story

ignorant assholes

i find it interesting that you follow this quote with some conspiracy mong nonsense. i don't know if you're an a**hole (or care) but you've mastered the ignorant part.

911 was not bushs fault """but i do believe highly two f*ckin planes did NOT bring them towers down"""

and why do you believe this, when there is pretty much zero evidence to support your position?

and it was someone high up involved and in OUR government and im sorry to any Americans reading this (i was in the national gaurd) the amount of victims in 9/11 was no whear near as many as the sh*t we've done OFF the record - meaning off the news!

oh really. strange, some of the victims that didn't exist were people who knew friends of mine. you mind explaining this?

and what shocking revelations do you have as a part-time soldier that someone who lived 2.25 miles from ground zero, who knew firemen, policemen and rescue workers would not be privy to?

until you come up with actual evidence--tangible, solid concrete evidence, NOT hearsay or conjecture--i can't help but classify you as the lowest, most disgusting type of conspiracy mong.

and hey if i cross paths with the surviving brother from Cantor-Fitzgerald i'll be sure to tell him that he can take comfort--his brother, and the people in his firm, no longer existed. and i'll tell my friend that her friend with the art studio in the wtc probably isn't dead; he never existed either.

Im no conspiracist---- but IF you look at my government or my federal reserve and you think hmm everything is NOT wall street? everything is not almost 90 percent bullshit?

and you think Americans are ok with it?

then your probably the one who believes everything u hear on MASS MEDIA

ah, the false dichotomy again (aka the "either/or fallacy."). every dirt-stupid conspiracy mong hides behind this. believe it or not one doesn't have to be spoon-fed by the mass media--or even pay attention to the mass media--to see through all your conspiracy mong drivel.

(hey, you can BE the alternative to the "MASS MEDIA." make a movie like Dylan did! you can call it "loose nut," as dickless Dylan already used "Loose CHange" as his way of pretending to have a film career!)

Most of us AMERICANS ( not the ones who are awake to real sh*t )

see the sh*t going down the toilet

and therein lies the real appeal of being a conspiracy mong, isn't it? your'e in the know. your'e special. all those people who are laughing at you? brainwashed by the MASS MEDIA obviously.

but i could keep goin on and on and those who believe fox news and other wallstreet owned stations

there you go again with false dichotomies.

last off

IF you believe a sitting president is the REAL one in charge of my country

then you really need to read a book or something

swallowing double edged razor blades might help

you hardly seem in a position to admonish *anyone* to read a book, given your abject failure to demonstrate any critical thinking skills and blatant disregard for anything resembling grammar... although the latter can be attributed to the kind of affected pseudo-creativity that people use to give the (often false) impression to strangers on the internet that they actually have a personality. things like avoiding capital letters and over-use of ellipses also fall into that category...

if you believe your conspiracy mong nonsense please lead by example with the double-edged razor blades.

AMERRRRRRRRICAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

FUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKK

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH

love that song

probably the only thing we'll agree on in this thread. maybe ever.

the cheese has definitely slip off the cracker :roll:

[Count_Jason]

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[Mister Moobs]

In regards to 9/11, the Joint Chiefs of Staff formulated a proposal in the early 60's which involved using false-flag terrorism against their own country: Operation Northwoods. The plan was to make out Cuba was behind it, as pretext for an invasion.

A couple of the proposed actions were detonating a drone plane near Cuba - supposedly full of ''college students on holiday'' - and making out the Cubans shot it down. It also called for blowing up a navy ship full of servicemen - for real or simulated. It suggested fake funerals if simulated.....

Fortunately, the Kennedy administration didn't go ahead with it.

I'm not saying 9/11 was carried out by the US government (something that isn't even important to many in the world, as they used it for the same stuff either way), but I sure find that interesting considering.

Remember the Maine!

Remember the Alamo!

[Count_Jason]

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[GoodKarma]

I would like to believe this. however my question is if he was a part of this faction. I don't think he would have been raising a lot of his money through grass roots through the internet. a lot of the other elects had tons of money. siphoned into their campaings they also had ties to free masons skull and bones iluminati etc. also jack read up on the christian crusades I suggest you do a little bit more research on this subject before you come to a conclussion a lot of this imformation has been documented on cable channels discovery channel and history channel not just the internet. the guy who propagates this stuff heavily is alex jones google the name and you will find his site. or if you really want to get more paranoid listen to a radio show coast to coast with george noory alex jones is always on there if you are in thailand you can usually get a free feed from http://www.kmj580.com/pages/onairschedule this is how little white lies are perpetuated no pun intended..take it easy. and cheers heres to the jack n coke.. the other day a bar tried to offer me jack an pepsi.. I only drink it jack n coke.. and hey 'skully the truth is out there'

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[GoodKarma]

Zbigniew Brzezinski (who's 80 years old), one of Obama's two chief backers, appears to have met Barack when he was only in college. He's likely groomed him for the presidency for the last three decades.....

Is there a link for this information online somewhere im intrested to read up more on this count...take it easy...

[Count_Jason]

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[GoodKarma]

Zbigniew Brzezinski (who's 80 years old), one of Obama's two chief backers, appears to have met Barack when he was only in college. He's likely groomed him for the presidency for the last three decades.....

Is there a link for this information online somewhere im intrested to read up more on this count...take it easy...

Just google their names together.

Hey i really would like to read the link you are reading this stuff from if you have it. later

[Count_Jason]

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[zeusbheld]

In regards to 9/11, the Joint Chiefs of Staff formulated a proposal in the early 60's which involved using false-flag terrorism against their own country: Operation Northwoods. The plan was to make out Cuba was behind it, as pretext for an invasion.

A couple of the proposed actions were detonating a drone plane near Cuba - supposedly full of ''college students on holiday'' - and making out the Cubans shot it down. It also called for blowing up a navy ship full of servicemen - for real or simulated. It suggested fake funerals if simulated.....

Fortunately, the Kennedy administration didn't go ahead with it.

I'm not saying 9/11 was carried out by the US government (something that isn't even important to many in the world, as they used it for the same stuff either way), but I sure find that interesting considering.

Remember the Maine!

Remember the Alamo!

highly doubtful that 9/11 was faked. there is such a thing called evidence, after all. however, the US government faking an incident in order to commence hostilities is not unprecedented; the Tonkin Gulf incident deserves a mention.

[zeusbheld]

Zbigniew Brzezinski (who's 80 years old), one of Obama's two chief backers, appears to have met Barack when he was only in college. He's likely groomed him for the presidency for the last three decades.....

Is there a link for this information online somewhere im intrested to read up more on this count...take it easy...

Just google their names together.

Hey i really would like to read the link you are reading this stuff from if you have it. later

I don't have any one place. But if you google ''Obama Zbigniew Brzezinski'', you'll find the sorta stuff you're looking for.

I'd also be wary of Alex Jones. He does put out a lot of good stuff, but he's ridiculously over-the-top, and, more concerningly, the ''Zionists'' are mysteriously and extremely conspicuously let off the hook. And try posting anything about Jewish power (I don't mean anti-Semitic...) on one his forums and see how long your post stays up.

Meanwhile, he rants and raves until the cows come home about censorship...

gee and i was thinking the main reason to be wary of Alex Jones was that he is a moron.

[Count_Jason]

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[zeusbheld]

Zbigniew Brzezinski (who's 80 years old), one of Obama's two chief backers, appears to have met Barack when he was only in college. He's likely groomed him for the presidency for the last three decades.....

Is there a link for this information online somewhere im intrested to read up more on this count...take it easy...

Just google their names together.

Hey i really would like to read the link you are reading this stuff from if you have it. later

I don't have any one place. But if you google ''Obama Zbigniew Brzezinski'', you'll find the sorta stuff you're looking for.

I'd also be wary of Alex Jones. He does put out a lot of good stuff, but he's ridiculously over-the-top, and, more concerningly, the ''Zionists'' are mysteriously and extremely conspicuously let off the hook. And try posting anything about Jewish power (I don't mean anti-Semitic...) on one his forums and see how long your post stays up.

Meanwhile, he rants and raves until the cows come home about censorship...

gee and i was thinking the main reason to be wary of Alex Jones was that he is a moron.

That comes under the ''ridiculously over-the-top'' part. He's out to make money and provides a form of entertainment ... I can agree with you that he's, in one way, cultivated many delusional Kool-Aid drinkers.

it's hard to take people like him seriously. stimulus replaces thought. the jonesbots are even harder to take seriously. and they all claim to not be "conspiracists" and that if you don't agree with them you've been "brainwashed by the mass media." it always amuses me with these types, with wing nuts, etc... it's everyone *else* who has been brainwashed. it's anyone who questions the gaping holes in the neat little theories who's been brainwashed.

hey i have a neat little theory too.

the human mind can't handle explanations that don't involve some creator, some mastermind. the idea that something could just happen is an abomination in our eyes. yet strangely, back in reality, anthills get by just fine even though the queen don't do nothin' 'cept drop babies. no "leadership" or "decision-making" whatsoever.

it amazes me that H. sapiens has the capacity to believe that the lessons of the anthill somehow don't apply to its grandeur. can we please change the name of our species to H. "your'e ******* kidding, right?"

[Count_Jason]

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