drlovelife8 Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Getting a salary much larger than the locals. I get something out of that so I don't want it to change, but it always feels wierd coming from equality based UK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeeMarc Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Getting a salary much larger than the locals.I get something out of that so I don't want it to change, but it always feels wierd coming from equality based UK. The 'Empire' would always wish people to believe this. But it aint so true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chatty Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Getting a salary much larger than the locals.I get something out of that so I don't want it to change, but it always feels wierd coming from equality based UK. It's quite hurt, once my ex boss asked me to translate document about my friend (American) salary, it was confidential but ex boss wasn't good at Eng.so she asked me to help. He got like 7x,xxx baht. He got BA. while I graduated Master, I have to work like 2 months to get that kinda pay. I know it's about law, can't change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigKus Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Getting a salary much larger than the locals.. and spend it stingily then been ripped off by a lazy dumb ***** ... No, i wouldnt change them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeeMarc Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Getting a salary much larger than the locals.I get something out of that so I don't want it to change, but it always feels wierd coming from equality based UK. It's quite hurt, once my ex boss asked me to translate document about my friend (American) salary, it was confidential but ex boss wasn't good at Eng.so she asked me to help. He got like 7x,xxx baht. He got BA. while I graduated Master, I have to work like 2 months to get that kinda pay. I know it's about law, can't change. you're lucky that was a small one. I know some westerners here who's salary is an extra zero on that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandorea Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Get paid more than "Pee Thai " but still complain about duet prices. :evil: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeeMarc Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Getting a salary much larger than the locals.. and spend it stingily then been ripped off by a lazy dumb ***** ... No, i wouldnt change them been spending to much time in places like Nana or Cowboy lately have you? That's where the one's you describe mostly go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigKus Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Getting a salary much larger than the locals.. and spend it stingily then been ripped off by a lazy dumb ***** ... No, i wouldnt change them been spending to much time in places like Nana or Cowboy lately have you? That's where the one's you describe mostly go. No, ja PeeMarc, Even though sometime I cant avoid to be around the places mentioned especially Na Na but I didnt mean those guys. I mean, Farangs who stay long term in Thailand (working under contracts or whatever ja ) These Farangs wont be around those places..They can order their weekly / monthly girlfriends come into their places, ( allowance, meals, transportation Expenses are included then reimburse back from company under entertainment cost tax receipt ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeeMarc Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Getting a salary much larger than the locals.. and spend it stingily then been ripped off by a lazy dumb ***** ... No, i wouldnt change them been spending to much time in places like Nana or Cowboy lately have you? That's where the one's you describe mostly go. No, ja PeeMarc, Even though sometime I cant avoid to be around the places mentioned especially Na Na but I didnt mean those guys. I mean, Farangs who stay long term in Thailand (working under contracts or whatever ja ) These Farangs wont be around those places..They can order their weekly / monthly girlfriends come into their places, ( allowance, meals, transportation Expenses are included then reimburse back from company under entertainment cost tax receipt ) gosh.... you seem to know WAY more than me about these details jaaaaaa. Wonder why that would be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdtongchai Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Getting a salary much larger than the locals.I get something out of that so I don't want it to change, but it always feels wierd coming from equality based UK. It's quite hurt, once my ex boss asked me to translate document about my friend (American) salary, it was confidential but ex boss wasn't good at Eng.so she asked me to help. He got like 7x,xxx baht. He got BA. while I graduated Master, I have to work like 2 months to get that kinda pay. I know it's about law, can't change. you're lucky that was a small one. I know some westerners here who's salary is an extra zero on that A small one? most people, even farang don't have a salary like that... and people with the extra zero? 750.000 baht a month is 16.500 euro, almost 23.000 USD a month.... i believe you when you say that you know someone or even a few, but i don't know anyone here, back at home, or ANY country who is making that kind of money a month.... Yes farang make more money, also spend more money, and the more money is spent in Thailand, the better it is for economy... right? And before you start, Spend more i don't mean we have to pay more for transport or a shirt, that difference is small and doesn't justify the difference in salary between thai and foreign at let's say 10.000 vs 60.000, but we spend more on food cause i just can't stomach the 25 baht meals on the corner of the road, on shoes, cause i can't wear slippers all day, on rent, cause i CHOOSE to live in a larger room, on electric bills cause i want to sleep with A/C instead of a fan.... We spend more, need more money... (need is relative).... The problem for Thai people is that foreigners won't get out of bed for a 10.000 baht salary.... so they pay more because they THINK foreigners are better.... Thai people who refuse 10.000 are just being replaced with someone who accepts it... I agree the difference is too big... I make around 75.000 while my collegue makes 12.500 doing the same thing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeeMarc Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Getting a salary much larger than the locals.I get something out of that so I don't want it to change, but it always feels wierd coming from equality based UK. It's quite hurt, once my ex boss asked me to translate document about my friend (American) salary, it was confidential but ex boss wasn't good at Eng.so she asked me to help. He got like 7x,xxx baht. He got BA. while I graduated Master, I have to work like 2 months to get that kinda pay. I know it's about law, can't change. you're lucky that was a small one. I know some westerners here who's salary is an extra zero on that A small one? most people, even farang don't have a salary like that... and people with the extra zero? 750.000 baht a month is 16.500 euro, almost 23.000 USD a month.... i believe you when you say that you know someone or even a few, but i don't know anyone here, back at home, or ANY country who is making that kind of money a month.... Yes farang make more money, also spend more money, and the more money is spent in Thailand, the better it is for economy... right? I believe, if you are a westerner living here long-term, earning less that TB100k pm will just not cut it. And yes, I can count on more that 2 hands westerners I know who earn salaries of between 300k and 1million per month here. But hey... don't shoot me for that... Im just the messenger :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
breakofdawning Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Farang get more salary, although they don't perform any better or being more effective than Thai. As a part of spending, if Thai get more money, we'll definitely spend the same way. Why paying it to foreigners? If they have certain skills that we don't, then yeah, I totally understand. But working in an international company, I realized that most farang aren't any better or some not as even as capable as Thai. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeeMarc Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 I get annoyed by westerners who come here without doing even basic research beforehand. And even the ones who've lived here for a couple of years who still feel compelled to wai the mamasan and girls in the their regular drinking hole. With SO much info available on the net within seconds, I cannot see why so many still seem so clueless and do so many dumb, thoughtless things when they're here. But.. I suppose I wouldn't want to change this because it gives me something to laugh about on occasions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admin Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 750.000 baht a month is 16.500 euro, almost 23.000 USD a month.... i believe you when you say that you know someone or even a few, but i don't know anyone here, back at home, or ANY country who is making that kind of money a month.... Yes farang make more money, also spend more money, and the more money is spent in Thailand, the better it is for economy... right? Well, I don't know many people here who make that kind of scratch but I regularly worked with people who made that kind of money back in the US and in Europe. One of the last places I worked in Europe the CTO got his wife a job as some analyst. They actually had to make up a job title for her because the job didn't exist. Someone saw her HR records and she was making 250,000 GBP a year, plus up to 30% bonus. Everything she touched turned into a stinking failure. Then they booted the CTO (who was also worthless) and she got axed the same day. :-) But yeah, her salary was unjustified due to her complete lack of experience but others at her level were making the same kind of money. The next step below her in management averaged about 120,000 - 130,000 GBP a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English_Bob Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 I love seeing farangs walking with girls, boys or ladyboys who work in a bar and thinking that no-one knows what's going on. They annoy me but make me laugh at the same time... especially going shopping in Paragon or Central Chidlom with a tattooed girl wearing denim hotpants. As far as farangs earning more than Thais... well, we earn more than some Thais - but sorry to say it, we are worth it. Farang teachers earn more than Thai teachers, but on the whole they do a better job. I know Thai people don't like to admit it, but education here is very poor. Underfunded and very little in the way of a decent curriculum or teaching skills. Thai language teachers are generally dreadful - pronunciation and grammar particularly bad. Having a Thai degree is not a guarantee of quality of education as cheating and plagiarism is so rife. In an office, farangs generally work more diligently and efficiently than Thai people. They have better problem solving skills and more original ideas. Farangs are more likely to design something new, than copy someone else's work. Thai politicians, policemen, waiters, taxi drivers, sportsmen, security guards, army chiefs, journalists, musicians, actors, doctors, restaurant/hotel managers, shop assistants it's difficult to think of any profession that Thais excel at. The artists I see at MBK are outstanding (at copying), sex-change surgeons do amazing work and many hookers are enthusiastic... but sorry to say, I'm struggling to think of any other areas of excellence. In my opinion Thailand's woes could be addressed by overhauling the education system completely. In the space of 2 generations, Thailand could be populated by free-thinking, diligent, creative people, but only if given a decent education. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeeMarc Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 I love seeing farangs walking with girls, boys or ladyboys who work in a bar and thinking that no-one knows what's going on. haha... i regularly eat at or pass by the little old Thai restaurant at the start of my soi. I see a particular westerner there now and again who seems to be a long term holiday guy.. or maybe retired. Lately, he's been having an obvious romance with a very tall ladyboy who is a full foot taller than him. They make a striking couple as they walk past or sit outside at the restaurant - he in shorts and sandals, she in stilettos, miniskirt, big hair and something bling-bling. The entertainment value for everyone around - made even more so because he seems so utterly oblivious to all the bleedin' obvious - you wouldn't want this kind of caper to stop.... it's just better than any script Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beej Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Getting a salary much larger than the locals.I get something out of that so I don't want it to change, but it always feels wierd coming from equality based UK. Getting a larger salary but still being someone's *****.... :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdtongchai Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 wrote a lot... Never thought I'd ever say this but you couldn't be more true.... This is really the first time that I 100% sincerely agree with you!... really makes me wonder now if I have the change my idea of you.... sorry, back on topic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English_Bob Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Never thought I'd ever say this but you couldn't be more true.... This is really the first time that I 100% sincerely agree with you!... All the other times, I was right and you were wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdtongchai Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 I know All hail Bob! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sukhumvit_Farang Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Get paid more than "Pee Thai " but still complain about duet prices. :evil: One might argue that farangs NEED to earn more than Thais because we have to pay more for most things . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJack Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Getting a salary much larger than the locals.. and spend it stingily then been ripped off by a lazy dumb ***** ... No, i wouldnt change them been spending to much time in places like Nana or Cowboy lately have you? That's where the one's you describe mostly go. No, ja PeeMarc, Even though sometime I cant avoid to be around the places mentioned especially Na Na but I didnt mean those guys. I mean, Farangs who stay long term in Thailand (working under contracts or whatever ja ) These Farangs wont be around those places..They can order their weekly / monthly girlfriends come into their places, ( allowance, meals, transportation Expenses are included then reimburse back from company under entertainment cost tax receipt ) we get paid 3 or 4 times your salary because we are 5 or 6 times better at anything then you are, including perceiving reality. why else would the money get paid? its not cause any thai person is bribing us or in need of our govt contract or crap. if people took more than 15 seconds to think about it they would realize its cause we are 10 times more productive than a thai counterpart. and in most cases there are no thai counterparts for us, they are all below us - education, experience, maturity, and common sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chatty Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Getting a salary much larger than the locals.I get something out of that so I don't want it to change, but it always feels wierd coming from equality based UK. It's quite hurt, once my ex boss asked me to translate document about my friend (American) salary, it was confidential but ex boss wasn't good at Eng.so she asked me to help. He got like 7x,xxx baht. He got BA. while I graduated Master, I have to work like 2 months to get that kinda pay. I know it's about law, can't change. you're lucky that was a small one. I know some westerners here who's salary is an extra zero on that A small one? most people, even farang don't have a salary like that... and people with the extra zero? 750.000 baht a month is 16.500 euro, almost 23.000 USD a month.... i believe you when you say that you know someone or even a few, but i don't know anyone here, back at home, or ANY country who is making that kind of money a month.... Yes farang make more money, also spend more money, and the more money is spent in Thailand, the better it is for economy... right? I believe, if you are a westerner living here long-term, earning less that TB100k pm will just not cut it. And yes, I can count on more that 2 hands westerners I know who earn salaries of between 300k and 1million per month here. But hey... don't shoot me for that... Im just the messenger :wink: I know someone who got 1 million baht+++++ / month with free mansion or castle, volvo(s) + drivers (for their wives) and their student education... those are executive class. but if i was the owner, I wouldn't think it's not worth in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English_Bob Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Well, Jack, tell it like it is. I tried to sugar coat it, but there definitely needs to be a wake-up call amongst the locals to see clearly their country's standing in the world - economically, productively and intellectually. When Thais demean Burmese and Cambodian labourers and maids, they fail to understand that Thais fulfill exactly the same roles in dozens of other countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdtongchai Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 if you say that out loud in Thailand they'll lock you up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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