Karnie Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 so what? I just can't wait to hear that you fall for wrong Thai woman who ripped you off till you had to create thread here as to bitching about it.....no offense! Have some more drinks. Then you might start making some kind of sense again.....huh. No offence, but what the h*ll are you talking about now? The more I drink, the more intelligence I become so BE WEAR, OLD MAN! However, what is it to do with drinking? I have been a very good observer to read your long comment that going nowhere...... can't even call well put. To be elder person doesn't mean you are always right and know everything. Successful on what you spread yours all over thread doesn't mean that you know better than others. And YOU don't know anything at all but still dare to say this and that. What the hell am I talking about now? Yeah, right! What the hell do I have to fight with old man who know nothing about our country. Be safe in our country as I heard you retired and plan to spend the rest of your life here. YOU take care of yourself, FARANG! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crustyjuggler Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 We just have to wait for the day when good Thais get sick to the teeth of Bad Thais because this behaviour only reflects poorly for the nation as a whole. Will this be before of after they close down Cowboy, Patpong, Nana, Ratchada, and all of the other places where prostitution is openly offered? My point didn't really have to do with dual pricing so much as there are plenty of things Thai people probably have good reason to be pissed off about because it reflects poorly on the nation as a whole but nothing seems to happen/change. I highly doubt correcting the dual pricing system is at the top of the list. What I was referencing is the often heard complaint about people thinking all Thai women are bar girls. They should be good and pissed off about that but I don't see any bars closing anytime soon. I know what you meant mate.. Thai men would have to stop whoring long before any fault can be laid at the foreigner's perception. Tourist neon lit larger than life bar areas pale in comparison to the numbers of those (quieter but still busy) parlours and bars that cater solely for the local market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admin Posted October 17, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 We just have to wait for the day when good Thais get sick to the teeth of Bad Thais because this behaviour only reflects poorly for the nation as a whole. Will this be before of after they close down Cowboy, Patpong, Nana, Ratchada, and all of the other places where prostitution is openly offered? My point didn't really have to do with dual pricing so much as there are plenty of things Thai people probably have good reason to be pissed off about because it reflects poorly on the nation as a whole but nothing seems to happen/change. I highly doubt correcting the dual pricing system is at the top of the list. What I was referencing is the often heard complaint about people thinking all Thai women are bar girls. They should be good and pissed off about that but I don't see any bars closing anytime soon. I know what you meant mate.. Thai men would have to stop whoring long before any fault can be laid at the foreigner's perception. Tourist neon lit larger than life bar areas pale in comparison to the numbers of those (quieter but still busy) parlours and bars that cater solely for the local market. Yes, but cracking down on the most visible part and letting tourists know that the game has changed would do a huge part in changing the perception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeeMarc Posted October 17, 2010 Report Share Posted October 17, 2010 That is the problem though. They are being very polite not trying to offend, but haven't you introduced your farang friend, or don't they really know the philipinos names? That is where the unintended rudeness comes in. To those foreigners it looks like they don't even care enough to remember their names, and that is rude. I know they mean no wrong, but they are doing wrong without even knowing, and to the foreigner it looks like they really don't care to know their name. That is racism. Even though it isn't intended, it is. This is one big point of "Culture different" too. Direct experience, this might help you to understand Thais more. When i talked on the phone with my friends in Thailand. My bf asked me. "Who are you talking too?" I said, "My friend in Bangkok" or "My university friend" etc... My bf pissed off one time and he said to me. "Dont they have f*cking names?!!!" And I didnt realise that, that bothered him,, LOL I didnt mention their names to my bf because he never met her and if I say "It's Apple" he would ask me more.. "Which Apple?, Is that one in Bkk or the university friend? so on." And instead of explain the whole things, i just say "My university friend" There is nothing to do with being "racist" or "rude" in this case, is it? In this case how you explain it, it is a case of being lazy....lolol. You don't want to take the time to explain to your BF who your friend is. Is he interested? From how you explained it, yes he is, and you only have to explain once to him who it is, then it is much less words to use in the future to let him know who it was you were talking to. Just because he has never met her doesn't mean you can't let him know who she is. He is your BF, and interested in your life. Is it rude to not take the time to explain who your friend from the university is? Learning culture when you are in a relationship with a foreigner works both ways. He has let you know that to him it is rude not to use a persons name. Do you not care about his feelings? The way you explain it, it sounds like you don't, because it is too much work. Yes, that is rude, and has nothing to do with culture. I might be wrong but I bet SBI is making more allowances to Swedes and their cultural habits than they are taking her's in to consideration....I am sure the strong BF/GF relationship can handle a little "shorthand" in conversations, don't you KB? When the "shorthand" reaches a point where the BF finally gets tired of it and expresses his feeling with, " My bf pissed off one time and he said to me. "Dont they have f*cking names?!!!" ", it might be questionable how strong it is. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Just as farang has been used for many many years to describe white foreigners, with no distinction as to what Continent they are from, as has been pointed out by quite a few of the Thais in this discussion as an excuse to keep using it, I remember a term that was used by my parents, their parents, and parents before them, going back hundeds of years, to describe all South East Asian people. It was not considered derogatory, or rude, by all the White people that used the term on all Continents the world over. But now because we found that quite a few South East Asian people thought is was rude, and racist, just as quite a few foreigners feel the same way about the word farang, most White people have quit using it, and consider it a racist term. Just because the word farang has been used for hundreds of years is not an excuse making it right to use if most foreigners don't like to be refered to as farang. If that is the case, then all White people should go back to using the term that was used for hundreds of years to describe all South East Asian people, with no concern for how they feel about it, because we felt there was nothing wrong with the word at all. I doubt it will ever happen though because Thailand as a whole has no problem with being discriminitory, and racist, even to their own people, let along foreigners. Words are just words. But it is the intention behind the use of words that carries their full meaning. I don't have a problem with the term farang in most cases. I dont have a problem with Thai people who refer to me this way, even when knowing my name. What is considered rude is, of course, relative to ones own upbringing and environment from where one comes. But, I have heard the word farang used in (what I would consider) very racist ways and in anger. But it did not bother me then either. I just felt really sad for the person speaking about me and all farang this way (they thought I couldn't understand what they were saying in Thai). I felt sad that they would belittle themselves and show such poor upbringing. I don't see the point of getting offended or angry about racist intentions. Mostly true racism comes from ignorance or stupidity or both. And so I deal with it in similar ways as I would anyone being stupid or ignorant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chatty Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 I will move on to the other useful topics, Oh... Where are those? Is there a Forum section I haven't yet noticed? there are some useful topics here ja but not many ppl care to take a look... lol I think ppl like some craps. IMO. this topic should change to "How to deal with difference culture" I went to Laos with my friend his name is p'Jet and his 3 friends... his friends didn't know me before, but after they knew my name when someone else asked them they said "Ohh, we come with p'Jet's friend". Every time i hear this words i never feel bad... it's our nature to speak that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English_Bob Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 there are some useful topics here ja but not many ppl care to take a look... lol I think ppl like some craps. IMO. this topic should change to "How to deal with difference culture" I went to Laos with my friend his name is p'Jet and his 3 friends... his friends didn't know me before, but after they knew my name when someone else asked them they said "Ohh, we come with p'Jet's friend". Every time i hear this words i never feel bad... it's our nature to speak that way. I was joking (a bit) about the forums... Personally, I never get offended by the term 'farang' or 'that guy' or 'the bald dude'... I have a terrible memory for names and often have to admit to people I have forgotten their names. I can understand how people get upset by that - but it's not like I do it on purpose... I'd love to remember everyone's name. When it comes to offending me - you have to really try. I can even ignore sly comments and second hand gossip. If you want to provoke a response - be direct. I knew a girl who spent a lot of time TRYING to find insults and hidden meanings in people's speech. She lost a lot of friends by continually analysing their sentences to see if there was anything she could get upset over, and of course, she managed to imagine stuff that wasn't there. It was sad to see her become more and more isolated and lonely. Eventually, people really WERE talking about her - because she was so sensitive and difficult. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DANNO Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 well said Dave... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetieBabie Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 well said Dave... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English_Bob Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 Yay... I got something right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
admin Posted October 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 I knew a girl who spent a lot of time TRYING to find insults and hidden meanings in people's speech. She lost a lot of friends by continually analysing their sentences to see if there was anything she could get upset over, and of course, she managed to imagine stuff that wasn't there. You only know one girl who does this? I thought they all did when they needed to let the drama out :-) You look good tonight? What do you mean tonight? Oh f*ck, I might as well just leave now. This isn't going to get any better. :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English_Bob Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 I knew a girl who spent a lot of time TRYING to find insults and hidden meanings in people's speech. She lost a lot of friends by continually analysing their sentences to see if there was anything she could get upset over, and of course, she managed to imagine stuff that wasn't there. You only know one girl who does this? I thought they all did when they needed to let the drama out :-) You look good tonight? What do you mean tonight? Oh f*ck, I might as well just leave now. This isn't going to get any better. :-) No - but she was a champion... And it didn't really affect me. But it affected plenty of friendships. She lost her best friend one day after they went shopping together - when they came back, the best friend didn't thank her for driving them into town... So she cut her off, permanently. It didn't matter how many times I said, "Maybe she forgot." or "Maybe you didn't hear her.".... that was the end of the friendship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drlovelife8 Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 so what? I just can't wait to hear that you fall for wrong Thai woman who ripped you off till you had to create thread here as to bitching about it.....no offense! Have some more drinks. Then you might start making some kind of sense again.....huh. No offence, but what the h*ll are you talking about now? The more I drink, the more intelligence I become so BE WEAR, OLD MAN! However, what is it to do with drinking? I have been a very good observer to read your long comment that going nowhere...... can't even call well put. To be elder person doesn't mean you are always right and know everything. Successful on what you spread yours all over thread doesn't mean that you know better than others. And YOU don't know anything at all but still dare to say this and that. What the hell am I talking about now? Yeah, right! What the hell do I have to fight with old man who know nothing about our country. Be safe in our country as I heard you retired and plan to spend the rest of your life here. YOU take care of yourself, FARANG! I hope you are not being racist Karnie... Kidding of course, I fully agree with your opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drlovelife8 Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 This has got to be one of the best topics we have had for ages, I haven't even had to mention Islam yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnie Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 I hope you are not being racist Karnie... Kidding of course, I fully agree with your opinion. Nope, I like all race especially those race that full of cute men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drlovelife8 Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 I hope you are not being racist Karnie... Kidding of course, I fully agree with your opinion. Nope, I like all race especially those race that full of cute men. You would love where I am from then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English_Bob Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 I hope you are not being racist Karnie... Kidding of course, I fully agree with your opinion. Nope, I like all race especially those race that full of cute men. You would love where I am from then. Birmingham???!!! LAUGHING MY ******* ASS OFF!!! (too funny for an abbreviation) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iBatch Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 to save all the color drama, lets call each other by name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English_Bob Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 to save all the color drama, lets call each other by name. OK... I name you "Gook." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iBatch Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 to save all the color drama, lets call each other by name. OK... I name you "Gook." OK shinny head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
English_Bob Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 Shiny? or Skinny? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karnie Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 I hope you are not being racist Karnie... Kidding of course, I fully agree with your opinion. Nope, I like all race especially those race that full of cute men. You would love where I am from then. where you come from doesn't a matter as long as you are FARANG! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iBatch Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 Shiny?or Skinny? ya looks shinny from a distance.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stramash Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 Shiny?or Skinny? Maybe she wants to shinny up your pole. (not your Pole) :twisted: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iBatch Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 Shiny?or Skinny? Maybe she wants to shinny up your pole. (not your Pole) :twisted: Yuck it up clown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stramash Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 Shiny?or Skinny? Maybe she wants to shinny up your pole. (not your Pole) :twisted: Yuck it up clown. :? :? :?: :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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