Bunny_girl Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 I was talking to my cousin , she is base in Canada. And our topic is about shopping (yes, its not surprising!). She told me that she NEVER buys clothes and shoes that is Made in China. Its a big No No for her. I dont know whats her reasons are . But we have a notion here that if its Made in China the quality is not good. But of course its not that all true. Which is very impossible here in OZ coz most of the clothes and shoes even the branded ones are Made in China (sometimes disppointing) .That is one thing I noticed when I first went shopping and also my sister have warned me about this. So my question is, are u particular in the things u buy where/which country made off? If yes, what's your reason? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uarewotueat Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 isnt everything made in china? :twisted: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny_girl Posted March 7, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 isnt everything made in china? :twisted: xcept my shoes and bags 8) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uarewotueat Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 ok i just reached for a few things around me... digicam... made in japan keyboard... made in thailand mouse... made in china thailand guide book... printed in china LOL so i guess i was wrong :twisted: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beegeneration Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 Yes it's a moment of truth that stuff made in china is not that good cause of quality,design and huge possibility to get a fake stuff .Too many fake made out there. Anyway, if the production line are from foreign capital and all the technique are from abroad .Even thought it is made in china.It won't be a lot problem tho.Because all standards is not in "chinese way" .Only if the design and idea are not orginated from china to be produced.There will not be a big problem and still worth buying i guess. As for people here.They prefer to get stuff that made in Japan especially for electronic stuff or Europe.Cause people know "how nice" chinese stuff is offering . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uarewotueat Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 Yes it's true that stuff made in china is not that good cause of quality and huge possibility to get a fake stuff. same in thailand... i often hear my thai friends say "copyright! it means we have the right to copy" LMAO *amused* :twisted: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 I was talking to my cousin , she is base in Canada. And our topic is about shopping (yes, its not surprising!). She told me that she NEVER buys clothes and shoes that is Made in China. Its a big No No for her. I dont know whats her reasons are . But we have a notion here that if its Made in China the quality is not good. But of course its not that all true. Which is very impossible here in OZ coz most of the clothes and shoes even the branded ones are Made in China (sometimes disppointing) .That is one thing I noticed when I first went shopping and also my sister have warned me about this. So my question is, are u particular in the things u buy where/which country made off? If yes, what's your reason? Welcome to Australia. To answer you question - about 70% of all goods being sold by retailers in Australia are made from China. China has literally become the world's manufacturing base and the quality of the products are of a very high standard - especially those that meet the ISO. Australia, like many western countries would only import products made from any country if it meets certain standards. Australia in turn sells raw materials and energy to the chinese market. The difference between China and other western countries are the wages and living conditions of workers who work in these factories - they are very unfair if compared to western standards (for example, compare to what you are being paid in Australia). Hence the final result is that the product is still cheaper to buy in Australia even if after accounting for the costs of importing it into Australia or any western country. I speak from personal experience as I go to China at least once a year and I meet lots of business people - both suppliers and buyers over there. The phenomenon of china is akin to the development of Japan and South Korea of the 1960s, 70s and 80s. However, chinese products have yet to develop name branding and as such do not yet command higher margin. For me, I have no problems buying products made from any country as long as it meets my needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beegeneration Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 Yes it's true that stuff made in china is not that good cause of quality and huge possibility to get a fake stuff. same in thailand... i often hear my thai friends say "copyright! it means we have the right to copy" LMAO *amused* :twisted: I notice there is some fake stuff in thailand as well.Most of them are imported from china or you get from "chinatown".Some friends of mine always say that.If you wanna buy something fake ."Go chinatown".They get branches worldwide.You won't be fail to get one in there.People say china is one of world great power ..Most of the time I think they refer to this .Let see what it contribute tho ! Anyway.in the era of "globilization" .We simply not buying becasue of where the stuff made from.Instead of it ,we are buying the design and idea where they are from.Simply speaking is creativity and originality where they are from Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 Yes it's true that stuff made in china is not that good cause of quality and huge possibility to get a fake stuff. same in thailand... i often hear my thai friends say "copyright! it means we have the right to copy" LMAO *amused* :twisted: I notice there is some fake stuff in thailand as well.Most of them are imported from china or you get from "chinatown".Some friends of mine always say that.If you wanna buy something fake ."Go chinatown".They get branches worldwide.You won't be fail to get one in there.People say china is one of world great power ..Most of the time I think they refer to this .Let see what it contribute tho ! You can buy fakes from anywhere in the world. In China, if you are looking for fakes, you go to the Yiwu trade show. But if you go to the Canton Trade Fair where only suppliers who meet certain standards on quality, reliability and performance are allowed to participate, then you are pretty certain to get good quality products. For example, last year - over half a million buyers visited the Canton Trade Show and over $40 billions USD in contracts were signed in 10 days. Literally, buyers from all over the world was there - I met peoples from as far away as Central America, South America and Africa - not to mention the usual countries like Japan, Australia, America and European nations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 cosmo is spot on. this includes european, japanese and american brands. i bet most of the parts of your computer are made in china, regardless of what brand you use. i use an apple g4 laptop. all the parts are made in china and assembled in taiwan. sometimes they use parts from other places (including thailand) but the bulk come from china, and you can expect this trend to continue due to favorable labor cost relative to productivity there. if you're opening a factory open it in china. ps the stuff on fakes is all true, and china is also a great place to get bootleg dvds. not that *i* ever would, but the topic came up in my bible study class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_love_som_tam Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 ps the stuff on fakes is all true, and china is also a great place to get bootleg dvds. not that *i* ever would, but the topic came up in my bible study class. yer kidding, right? :shock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodKarma Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 If they made cheap Gas. Would people buy it? Let's say worldwide 20 baht a gallon. ' Gas made in China'...what do you think? or Would people say No sir I'm not gonna buy that gas its not good quality its made in China. If they made gas at the price that the rest of the world buys it at now people definitely would not buy it...Maybe they should make Gasoline...things that make you go....hummmm :roll: bottom line: Is people are not that quality minded anymore. If it breaks or doesn't work anymore just dispose of it an buy another cheap one. kinda sad huh. Disposable Global Society....if Made in China was an issue the billion dollar entity Walmart wouldn't even exist. or Tesco don't get me wrong I am not bad mouthing either I love both establishments...they have found out what works.....lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 Just a final point to add. The hidden costs to China as a result of this rapid industrialisation is the horrendous social and environmental degradation which I am sure will one day come back to haunt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beej Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 Buy British baby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomaswd Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 Just a final point to add.The hidden costs to China as a result of this rapid industrialisation is the horrendous social and environmental degradation which I am sure will one day come back to haunt it. Once again Cosmo is rught...and this is the nasty side of world trade...big companies come into such markets, rape the resources and then move on when it becomes too exspensive to continue. It was not that long ago we saw "Made in Tiawan" on all the labels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldMember Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 Just a final point to add.The hidden costs to China as a result of this rapid industrialisation is the horrendous social and environmental degradation which I am sure will one day come back to haunt it. Once again Cosmo is rught...and this is the nasty side of world trade...big companies come into such markets, rape the resources and then move on when it becomes too exspensive to continue. It was not that long ago we saw "Made in Tiawan" on all the labels. Capitalism evolves:its the nature of the beast :twisted: China has been an enviromental basket case for decades :long before multirnationals were allowed in.Economic greed and wholescale neglect has always been a bit of a homegrown Chinese trait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiaranM Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 Buy British baby! there's f**k all made there now !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldMember Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 Buy British baby! there's f**k all made there now !! Yep all the dark satanic mills have p+ssed of to China and south-east asia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 Buy British baby! yeah right. get a jaguar. just make sure you get an extra one for when it's in the repair shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uarewotueat Posted March 7, 2006 Report Share Posted March 7, 2006 Buy British baby! yeah right. get a jaguar. just make sure you get an extra one for when it's in the repair shop. or a rover... oh no the chinese bought them out, then shipped the whole plant over there! its like goin round in circles :arrow: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted March 8, 2006 Report Share Posted March 8, 2006 Recommendation: Buy Clothing Step away from the Chinese electronic store ma'am! in other words, buy foreign-branded electronics with chinese-manufactured components inside... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bunny_girl Posted March 9, 2006 Author Report Share Posted March 9, 2006 Buy British baby! there's f**k all made there now !! exactly! but one cousin of mine was MADE and BORN in UK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted March 9, 2006 Report Share Posted March 9, 2006 Buy British baby! there's f**k all made there now !! exactly! but one cousin of mine was MADE and BORN in UK britain's 2 leading exports: football and cousins. dont trust the brits if they actually have to manufacture something, unless it's a cousin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdiddy Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 Many people in N America do not like to buy Products from 'poor' countries because they are very sure that the people manufacturing these products are paid and treated unfairly. This includes myself to a certain extent. Many people also wish to buy products made in their own economy so they are not sending their money overseas. This is kind of messed up logic, but many people operate this way. Mind you, very little is still made in the USA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cosmo Posted March 11, 2006 Report Share Posted March 11, 2006 Many people in N America do not like to buy Products from 'poor' countries because they are very sure that the people manufacturing these products are paid and treated unfairly. . Unfortunately, the empirical evidence suggests otherwise. You only need to visit the nearest government website to find evidence on the latest trade balance with China. The last time I checked, it was over $200 billion USD for the year ended 2005. http://www.senate.gov/~schumer/SchumerWebsite/pressroom/press_releases/2006/PR57.Trade%20Deficit.020606.html If it hadn't been for the re-imposition of tariffs on chinese made clothing by the American, European and the Chinese (yup - true), the trade deficit with China would have been much higher. Despite the revaluation of the Yuan and other political pressure levied by various governments in Europe and North America towards the Chinese government, the trade deficit with China is increasing, not decreasing. Fortunately for Australia, it is the other way around. We have ample supply of raw materials and energy to sell to them and prices of most these commodities have double in the last year. Every day, more and more multi-national companies are setting up factories in China - the profits to be derived are just astronomical - just ask Nike. In fact, I am wearing one of their latest footwear now which I recently paid about $260 Australian dollars (around 7800 baht) - the factory worker in China would be paid less than a dollar for it. How much do you think "Nike" would have made even after taking into account of labour, overhead, design and marketing costs? Have a look at their latest financials. http://www.nike.com/nikebiz/nikebiz.jhtml?page=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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