English Teachers!!!!

[beej]

Enough said about the hate between residents and non residents, what about the friction between English teachers and non English teachers, do people sneer at them for the job they do? It?s become a bit of a thing these days, oh what do you do teach English? *sneer*! And do English teachers earn good wages, legit or non legit? And how do Thai people on this site feel about them working illegally and not paying any tax?

[babyoiy]

yeah it sounds a bit .... ermm ... yeah you know what I mean.. and no one really care to ask more about why or whatever but just .. 'erm yeah teaching english you do for living?.. ok' but Im sure you can feel the different between desperate english teachers or high performance english teachers,,,

I just happened to know someone that too good to be an english teacher here. It doesn't make that huge money but seem to be the easy way to get a job.. or you can say, not many choice.. and about work permit etc, at my company those non-thai's are re-located, not that they just walk in to apply for any job.. but as I'm me, im not that bad so I may could do something.. thinking about sneaking in and drop his resume into the Country Manager's room.. 8)

there are loads of non-Thai peepz here said they do own business such as import-export. It's sound good for import-export thing but you gotta ask in detail and you will find just nothing as good as it sounds like... or those who doing some geeky illegal job, cheating people even they earn a lot more and have better life style... I still not sure teaching english or cheating others, which one is sound better?

[frankenburner2]

yeah it sounds a bit .... ermm ... yeah you know what I mean.. and no one really care to ask more about why or whatever but just .. 'erm yeah teaching english you do for living?.. ok' but Im sure you can feel the different between desperate english teachers or high performance english teachers,,,

I just happened to know someone that too good to be an english teacher here. It doesn't make that huge money but seem to be the easy way to get a job.. or you can say, not many choice.. and about work permit etc, at my company those non-thai's are re-located, not that they just walk in to apply for any job.. but as I'm me, im not that bad so I may could do something.. thinking about sneaking in and drop his resume into the Country Manager's room.. 8)

there are loads of non-Thai peepz here said they do own business such as import-export. It's sound good for import-export thing but you gotta ask in detail and you will find just nothing as good as it sounds like... or those who doing some geeky illegal job, cheating people even they earn a lot more and have better life style... I still not sure teaching english or cheating others, which one is sound better?

allai - na?

[chrispilok]

Enough said about the hate between residents and non residents, what about the friction between English teachers and non English teachers, do people sneer at them for the job they do? It?s become a bit of a thing these days, oh what do you do teach English? *sneer*! And do English teachers earn good wages, legit or non legit? And how do Thai people on this site feel about them working illegally and not paying any tax?

I teach English here. I love my job. I put a lot of effort into it. I think my students get very good value for money. It's true however that sometimes foreignors do get snitty about it. At first I couldn't understand why, but I think it's because many people can't understand why I would enjoy it, or they've tried it and couldn't hack it, or they are too used to a certain degree of material comfort. So, because it doesn't work for them their response is to denigrate it. My reaction is usually: "who the fcuk are you? What do you do that's so important?" Usually I find they are working some boring job somewhere dreaming of living in Thailand.

[zeusbheld]

viggop hit the nail on the head.

actual teaching is a noble profession if ever there was one.

however, even in bangkok there are vast numbers of "english teachers" who just plain aren't qualified. it's obvious why this happens -- much demand (for quantity of teachers, not quality, thus the wages aren't being driven up), relatively little (qualified) supply.

i do think it is important to make fun of most english teachers for not making much money, at least until they figure out i'm not making much money either. at that point i think it is important to change the subject.

if you do happen to have a good teacher in *any* subject, stick with them. teaching is a skill, and somewhat rare in my experience.

the old saw "those who can't do, teach" is perpetuated mainly by those who can neither do nor teach.

[The Punisher]

On a more positive note... Most of my best friends in Bkk are English teachers, and they are the coolest bunch of people I have met here. On top of that, I would not hesitate in having my own child (if I had one) taught by any of them. They are dedicated to their jobs, enjoy the kids, and have well balanced social lives.

[Princess]

With the exception of maybe a few International school, English teachers almost certainly earn more under the table. Most schools/universities pay anywhere between 15,000-40,000 (there are exceptions of course) and 30-40 K is the higher bracket and considered a reasonably good deal. I've heard rumours that even International universities only pay their teachers 20,000-30,000. Private teaching can pay as much as 11,00 an hour (could be more too) and depending on how many hours you're willing to take on and how good you are, you can make a somewhat decent income.

However, not all this is always under the table. Sometimes, the best work comes from teaching for an academy/language school and at the end of the month, you do pay your 7% in tax.

I think teaching English is fine and there is indeed a knack to teaching anythng properly - it's not for everyone. The only problem I have with "english teachers" is when I have to point out that my own teacher has misspelled something or used the wrong grammar for a sentence - in that case I think he/she has no business teaching anyone something that he/she does not know and is better off at a lower level.

[i_love_som_tam]

wood teyh let me teech angleesh?

[i_love_som_tam]

far too often i've met several english teachers here who can barely speak with correct grammar or cant spell.

thin i are cualifyed, write?

[CMG_UK]

There are good and bad everywhere. Unfortunately this country has more than it's fair share of bad.

There are good out there, you just have to choose carefully, be prepared to ask for background information on your teacher and only settle for well-educated, well-qualified and well-experienced teachers. Students are paying a lot for what oftens turns out to be a second rate service provided by poorly educated 'teachers' who are only interested in earning beer money and getting into the pants of as many students as possible.

Christopher MBA ACMA CELTA (Cambridge)

:wink:

[The Punisher]

Christopher MBA ACMA CELTA (Cambridge)

:wink:

Show off! ;op In all fairness, Chris is one of the good teachers I am referring too (And Chris you KNOW how much it hurts me to admit that)

[i_love_som_tam]

Students are paying a lot for what oftens turns out to be a second rate service provided by poorly educated 'teacers' who are only interested in earning beer money and getting into the pants of as many students as possible.

Christopher MBA ACMA CELTA (Cambridge)

You mean it works?

Ron, School of hard knocks.

[bigKus]

..:: I have talked to a guy from TF once, he said he does not like other farangs in TF because most of them are English Teaches and Farang Kie Nok ! I said I prefer NOT talk to you again ( considered shallow minded ).

For me, people here are equal same as everywhere in world, you OWN your life.

I myself usually meeting farangs in Engineering Field and International Sales from work. But i have english teacher when i was in school and after finished uni. They were a big part of me to get into my career. I dont care whoever's thought about them BUT I would like to leave here something for your comparison betwee English Teacher who live life simplily devoted to teaching, enjoy working and the CEO who treat staff like dog and treat all thai women like prostitute, which one you prefer ?

[OutOfOrder]

great thread, hehe....

[CMG_UK]

Students are paying a lot for what oftens turns out to be a second rate service provided by poorly educated 'teacers' who are only interested in earning beer money and getting into the pants of as many students as possible.

Christopher MBA ACMA CELTA (Cambridge)

You mean it works?

Ron, School of hard knocks.

To tell you the truth, I don't know. I am sure it does, but so far I have never given any of my students any 'extra-curricular training'. Though I would have liked to from time to time.

[steevolution]

yeah it sounds a bit .... ermm ... yeah you know what I mean.. and no one really care to ask more about why or whatever but just .. 'erm yeah teaching english you do for living?.. ok' but Im sure you can feel the different between desperate english teachers or high performance english teachers,,,

I just happened to know someone that too good to be an english teacher here. It doesn't make that huge money but seem to be the easy way to get a job.. or you can say, not many choice.. and about work permit etc, at my company those non-thai's are re-located, not that they just walk in to apply for any job.. but as I'm me, im not that bad so I may could do something.. thinking about sneaking in and drop his resume into the Country Manager's room.. 8)

there are loads of non-Thai peepz here said they do own business such as import-export. It's sound good for import-export thing but you gotta ask in detail and you will find just nothing as good as it sounds like... or those who doing some geeky illegal job, cheating people even they earn a lot more and have better life style... I still not sure teaching english or cheating others, which one is sound better?

allai - na?

hey, it makes sense to me. i sure hope you know her well enough to be slaggin her.

she's right about the import/export. i know people that are doing time for import/export. i also know english teachers that should be doing time/have done time/will do some time. "oh the tangled webs we weave". Stevo.

[frankenburner2]

yeah it sounds a bit .... ermm ... yeah you know what I mean.. and no one really care to ask more about why or whatever but just .. 'erm yeah teaching english you do for living?.. ok' but Im sure you can feel the different between desperate english teachers or high performance english teachers,,,

I just happened to know someone that too good to be an english teacher here. It doesn't make that huge money but seem to be the easy way to get a job.. or you can say, not many choice.. and about work permit etc, at my company those non-thai's are re-located, not that they just walk in to apply for any job.. but as I'm me, im not that bad so I may could do something.. thinking about sneaking in and drop his resume into the Country Manager's room.. 8)

there are loads of non-Thai peepz here said they do own business such as import-export. It's sound good for import-export thing but you gotta ask in detail and you will find just nothing as good as it sounds like... or those who doing some geeky illegal job, cheating people even they earn a lot more and have better life style... I still not sure teaching english or cheating others, which one is sound better?

allai - na?

hey, it makes sense to me. i sure hope you know her well enough to be slaggin her.

she's right about the import/export. i know people that are doing time for import/export. i also know english teachers that should be doing time/have done time/will do some time. "oh the tangled webs we weave". Stevo.

I sure hope you know ME well enough to be telling me who i should be knowing well enough or not to be slagging off....or something like that.....

(pssst....Oiy....allai na?)

[Ammy]

No offence against english TEACHERS, but what piss me off, is that it's so damn easy for a non educated teacher to get a teacher job here, I have to move my daughter from one school to another just because of this.

It seems Bangkok have quite good standard for qualified English teacher, but as soon you are outside bangkok I guess most of the English 'Teachers didn't even pass High school.

I totally agree with you. I personally have nothing against english teachers. i actually was seeing one before. but i guess the bad image of english teachers here is that anyone can become an english teacher here even a truck driver (seen one before) or one who still speaks like a rapper...

[Deester]

far too often i've met several english teachers here who can barely speak with correct grammar or cant spell.

thin i are cualifyed, write?

you are no english teacher (yet)

[beej]

I did my English teaching stint about 7 years ago in Taiwan and Japan, and I know that due to lack of training and all the rest, I was a really **** teacher for a very long time! Im just concerned that alot of kids are getting muppet Khao Sarn/ Nana rejects as English teachers, with 99% not having any back ground checks! They could be far from qualified, or with dodgy history!! And as for the TEFL papers, its hardly enough to teach in a school!

[babyoiy]

hehe ok, i need to take some english courses.... atleast to make me NO MORE lost in translation in between you guyssss.

how much u gonna charge teacher?

[chrispilok]

No offence against english TEACHERS, but what piss me off, is that it's so damn easy for a non educated teacher to get a teacher job here, I have to move my daughter from one school to another just because of this.

It seems Bangkok have quite good standard for qualified English teacher, but as soon you are outside bangkok I guess most of the English 'Teachers didn't even pass High school.

I totally agree with you. I personally have nothing against english teachers. i actually was seeing one before....

What are you, some kind of gold-digger?

:wink:

[chrispilok]

I did my English teaching stint about 7 years ago in Taiwan and Japan, and I know that due to lack of training and all the rest, I was a really sh*t teacher for a very long time! Im just concerned that alot of kids are getting muppet Khao Sarn/ Nana rejects as English teachers, with 99% not having any back ground checks! They could be far from qualified, or with dodgy history!! And as for the TEFL papers, its hardly enough to teach in a school!

Agreed. Underqualified teachers like that suck.

[Mikee_Moose]

far too often i've met several english teachers here who can barely speak with correct grammar or cant spell.

Not to mention the thick northern English accents that no one, not even native English speakers can understand.

However, I suppose the English teachers serve a purpose and it allows less experienced/educated people to enjoy Thailand. They just need to invest in better shoes (not flip flops) and neckties. You can always spot an English teacher by his uniform. Cheap short sleeved shirt, cheap 100 Bht "Indian tailor" necktie, cheap shoes and a little shoulder bag.

Sorry, dont mean to sound elitest but.... 8)

[chumpae]

Question was : English Teacher

Learned me in School , refridgerator , but they say : fridge !

Learned me in School , give me one coke please , but they say : give me f...ing coke

Learned me in School , english is the world language ! But in Africa they speak french , and the english , what most used in the world is the american dialect or accent

So the teachers learn you for read a book or newspaper , because you not know the dialects for an conversation . So i think , when will spoke english slang , or american style , you must talk and hear long time with people from this country . That can no teacher learn you , but can give a basic knowledge .

I think the rest comes by conversation . And sorry my mistakes , only for the teachers , iam also not learning finish . My home language is german , dialekt northrine westfalia rhineland . When i meet an Bavarian , or Hamburgian , or Austrian or Swiss , i have the same dialect problems .

In Thailand , i think , was the best way for ME , learn a little bit Thai language and Lao style . But the reading is over 18 years a problem for ME . I think i cannot learn in more 18 years .

This all here is only my concept , but it helps me before . It can be , that other people think otherwise