ling_dtua_khaao Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 Congratulations to France on their victory over Brazil just minutes ago! Going into the semi-finals, this makes the 2006 World Cup an all-European contest. In fact, thinking of Vichy France, Mussolini's Repulic, Nazi Germany and Salazar's Portugal, we might dub it FIFA's Fascist Finale! Who will take over the world in 2006? --Ling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexanderdream Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 Congratulations to France on their victory over Brazil just minutes ago!Going into the semi-finals, this makes the 2006 World Cup an all-European contest. In fact, thinking of Vichy France, Mussolini's Repulic, Nazi Germany and Salazar's Portugal, we might dub it FIFA's Fascist Finale! Who will take over the world in 2006? --Ling :shock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexanderdream Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 not funny at all ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toma Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 CONGRATULATION!!!!! You won the CUP!!!! That's the MOST, really MOOOOOSSSSSTTTT stupid thread I have ever.... EVER read on TF! Sorry joeshka.... I have to take u ur cup away! ..... Sorry dun know wot to say to such a stupid ***** like you.... I'm speechless... The only RACIST here is YOU!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ttesta Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 Going into the semi-finals, this makes the 2006 World Cup an all-European contest. In fact, thinking of Vichy France, Mussolini's Repulic, Nazi Germany and Salazar's Portugal, we might dub it FIFA's Fascist Finale! Who will take over the world in 2006?--Ling you must have a brain damage ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nebucadneca Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 I cant belive this thread is from a "Forum Moderator" maybe TF should choose their moderators more carefuly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toma Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 you must have a brain damage ...??? right on man right on get a hold of yourself its called a public domain duhh always the analy retentative on here so quick to shout racist what the hell is wrong with this over p.c. world these days want to moan at the guys bearing flags next somebody pointing out a coincidence duhh Dear Nelson Mandela or Mahatma Ghandi, Just like u said... this is a public forum... and if someone calls me, my family and my friends "racists"... dun u think that I'am allow to tell my opinion of someone?!?! and huhh I am mixed race... *on the way to Ausschwitz where my place is* btw: to be allowed to protect oneself is freedom of speech, too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toma Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 do you think this really is a personal attack on your family and countrymen grow up son my kids are half english half fillipino so what man dont take life so serious dude, just like u said... btw.... dun call me "my son"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toma Posted July 1, 2006 Report Share Posted July 1, 2006 sorry son didnt mean no offence by it at all as i said lighten up son :wink: Just like u said.... bye bye, au revoir and Auf Wiedersehen and have a nice day... :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luca Posted July 2, 2006 Report Share Posted July 2, 2006 "Vichy France, Mussolini's Repulic, Nazi Germany and Salazar's Portugal"??? Oh my god , it's just soccer!!! :shock: :shock: ps: I doubt Italy was a Republic when Mussolini ruled... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted July 2, 2006 Report Share Posted July 2, 2006 not funny at all ! hilaaaaarious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted July 2, 2006 Report Share Posted July 2, 2006 P.S. Dear Mods, no yellow card for me, please. I'm not russian, thanks Zeus and Yarylo. :shock: what did i do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ling_dtua_khaao Posted July 2, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 2, 2006 Well well, I've been busy approving pics and so on and now I come back and see quite a kerfuffle! Tasteless? Sure. I was thinking along the lines of John Cleese's Fawlty Towers, especially the "The Germans" episode. ("Don't mention the war!") Not of course nearly as funny, just inspiration. Mussolini did call one of his governments (later on, once he had become just a puppet of Nazi Germany) Repubblica Sociale Italiana, a republic. The word "republic" has a long history in Europe going back to the Roman Republic, and has a lot of emotional and political meaning, hence is a good name to appropriate to your government whether or not you follow any values that might be called republican. Also, fascism is not one and the same as Nazi Germany. Portugal remained neutral throughout World War 2, and even aided the allies a little. There were many many fascist movements throughout Europe in the early part of the 20th century, before World War 2. The ideology of fascism was attractive to many people throughout Europe prior to the second war. Mussolini was in power and subverting the democracy in Italy well before Hitler came into power. Fascism was tacitly and even openly supported among a sizable group of the British aristocracy. Collaboration in occupied Vichy France with the Nazis was extensive, a fact most people would prefer to forget. (Of course part of it was motivated by fear. But all of it? Ridding France of its Jews? No, that cannot all be blamed on fear.) What destroyed the illusions about fascism was World War 2 and the reality of what fascism could lead to as exemplified by Nazi Germany. But even after World War 2 ended, the fascist dictatorships of Portugal and Spain survived into the 1970s. Fascism is a far far more "grey" topic in European history than the easy black and white distinctions that have been made since World War 2 and the Holocaust. Its history went from grey prior to the second war to darkest black by the end. --Ling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiaranM Posted July 2, 2006 Report Share Posted July 2, 2006 Well well, I've been busy approving pics and so on and now I come back and see quite a kerfuffle!Tasteless? Sure. I was thinking along the lines of John Cleese's Fawlty Towers, especially the "The Germans" episode. ("Don't mention the war!") Not of course nearly as funny, just inspiration. Mussolini did call one of his governments (later on, once he had become just a puppet of Nazi Germany) Repubblica Sociale Italiana, a republic. The word "republic" has a long history in Europe going back to the Roman Republic, and has a lot of emotional and political meaning, hence is a good name to appropriate to your government whether or not you follow any values that might be called republican. Also, fascism is not one and the same as Nazi Germany. Portugal remained neutral throughout World War 2, and even aided the allies a little. There were many many fascist movements throughout Europe in the early part of the 20th century, before World War 2. The ideology of fascism was attractive to many people throughout Europe prior to the second war. Mussolini was in power and subverting the democracy in Italy well before Hitler came into power. Fascism was tacitly and even openly supported among a sizable group of the British aristocracy. Collaboration in occupied Vichy France with the Nazis was extensive, a fact most people would prefer to forget. (Of course part of it was motivated by fear. But all of it? Ridding France of its Jews? No, that cannot all be blamed on fear.) What destroyed the illusions about fascism was World War 2 and the reality of what fascism could lead to as exemplified by Nazi Germany. But even after World War 2 ended, the fascist dictatorships of Portugal and Spain survived into the 1970s. Fascism is a far far more "grey" topic in European history than the easy black and white distinctions that have been made since World War 2 and the Holocaust. Its history went from grey prior to the second war to darkest black by the end. --Ling sorry Ling no amount of waffle trying to justify ur original post is going to make what u said any better !! facism is a nasty nasty philosophy and to tar 4 countries involved in the world cup semi finals as "facist" is at best tasteless and i personally would call insulting. especially for citizens of the 4 countries involved who are members of this website !! especially surprised at u posting the original thread as u have tended to be a thoughful and reasonable moderater, but this one is way over the bounds of what i would consider reasonable or humourous !! not even close to funny !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
condotown Posted July 2, 2006 Report Share Posted July 2, 2006 right-wing = facism ... dictatorship left-wing=communism... communist party democracy=rule of the people They're all corrupt due the greedy nature of mankind. No perfect, nor ideal form of government has or ever will be found. Evidenced by Thailand's current predicament. Ohh is this about football? byeeeee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chumpae Posted July 2, 2006 Report Share Posted July 2, 2006 Very hard Topic . Iam mixed race , French and German , so i think : What a stupid Comment !! My Grandpa , French , died in the fighting Underground ! My Grandma , German , sit in Prison in the War !! Also 3 from her 7 Sons must work by german Wehrmacht , one from them in Hitlerjugend . My Father , was the youngest . So here in Germany , after 60 years , we have no Nazis ! And Vichy in France ? Mein Gott wie BESCHEUERT !! So tanz den den MU..OLINI , oder mach den A.OLF H.TLER , und freu dich , das du solche Zeiten niemals erlebt hast !! Ich denke es gibt nichts schlimmeres ! Iam an EUROPE , think EUROPE , like EURO , und hoffe , das ich es erlebe , das HIER in EUROPA die Grenzen abgeschafft werden ! So lasst uns weiter Fussball spielen !! GPIF Grand Prix In Football !! Germany Portugal Italy France !! Who wins ?? Es ist mir SCHEISSEGAL !! Alle VIER liebe ICH !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeAussieGuy Posted July 2, 2006 Report Share Posted July 2, 2006 Not a good thread. Perhaps it should be deleted by the originator, no one wants such things from the past dragged up, particularly when it started off as a comment, rightly or wrongly, about a game of football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirreloncrack Posted July 2, 2006 Report Share Posted July 2, 2006 Not sure but I think ling_dtua_khaao got the response she intended to get? And maybe some people are a bit too sensitive and need to grow up a bit. Personally if someone calls me names I get excited naaa just kidding But really it?s a game and competition is healthy. think outside the square you live in :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankenburner2 Posted July 2, 2006 Report Share Posted July 2, 2006 gotta love the consistency on this site sometimes.......don't worry people! the sky is still blue, up is still up, pigs still can't fly.....if you're lucky, as a moderator, maybe he'll card himself and lock the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Princess Posted July 2, 2006 Report Share Posted July 2, 2006 Locked until Admin can take a look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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