Olympics

[luckyphil247]

All this fuss , just because the pretty little girl didn't get to sing .

Maybe she had a flawed voice ??? What's so wrong with using the other girl's sweet voice ???

So maybe she can't be a singer , but there's acting/modelling for her in the future . She'll get over it and in no time she'll be feeling better about herself .

[Loburt]

And what about the little girl who was told she's too ugly to sing on camera and represent China? Will she just get over it too?

How would you feel if she were your kid?

[Nelis]

I heard today on the radio her teeth were not straight enough....

[Loburt]

the communist party official demanded the child be "flawless."

which human is flawless?

[sunsnow]

If there is ONE LINK you click today, and one thing to read about olympics today, do click this if you are a red-blooded male:

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/photo/2008-08/13/content_6933290.htm

You can thank me later.

Comments: some uglies. The last pics are great. Do note the picture captions too, some of them are made with tongue in cheeck. Surprise that they have one girl with tattoo on her belly. Westerners have some wide hips, lovely looking and the greatest butts but damn I wished there was more Chinese girls as the pics have some eye candy for sure. China Daily rules!!!!!

[luckyphil247]

And what about the little girl who was told she's too ugly to sing on camera and represent China? Will she just get over it too?

Maybe they just told her that she wasn't tall enough ??? ( Many ways to skin a cat ) .

We might not even know for a fact that she's upset .

The reports are all from the Western media . Surely they'd have better sense to not tell her the 'real reason' why she didn't get to sing on camera .

Western journalist holding the microphone to the girl ....."Excuse me little Chinese girl ; Do you know the real reason you didn't sing on camera was because you were considered too ugly ???

Little Chinese girl looking at her mum and in Chinese saying ...."huh , I dont understand ???"

[Loburt]

I doubt she was told anything like that prior to singing.

But you really think she's not going to find out that's the reason?

[Damnam1]

If there is ONE LINK you click today, and one thing to read about olympics today, do click this if you are a red-blooded male:

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/photo/2008-08/13/content_6933290.htm

You can thank me later.

Comments: some uglies. The last pics are great. Do note the picture captions too, some of them are made with tongue in cheeck. Surprise that they have one girl with tattoo on her belly. Westerners have some wide hips, lovely looking and the greatest butts but damn I wished there was more Chinese girls as the pics have some eye candy for sure. China Daily rules!!!!!

Hello,

link seems dead to me. From what I read they admiited that the original girl singerwas not pretty enough to be displayed on TV. If they had told before, no MilliVanilli then, but I guess there are worse things round the olympics yet to be discovered.

Hey Cosmo - if I can stand my daily Som Tam up north in Isaan or this lovely Chicken Vindaloo at my favourite take away in England, do you think I could stand chinese hot food, too ? I cook Thai once a week and my veggie dealer always says, he has never seen such a crazy guy eating the hottest chilies...guess it cant be any hotter than this.

Cheers

Ray

[grezzzy_greer]

According to an earlier post, the little girls were quite satisfied that they had been put into the opening as a composite - the girl who sang had said she was happy that her voice was used...the little girl in the red dress was happy that she was on the TV...so why the hell can't everyone leave them alone and get on with it? Stirring things up will only eventually cause the kids to feel unhappy about it.

As for the racist and unecessary argument going on - I suggest that the anti Chinese comments unrelated to the Olympics are not needed here. Please be aware that not only is Thailand a part of Asia, but that many of our people have direct roots traceable back to China - as does Cosmo - so lets have less racism - we don't need it.

Criticism of the way some parts of the show were apparently produced is one thing, but attacks on the Chinese in general dont need to be included here. In attacking one race, you invite attacks on your own race and peoples.

[grezzzy_greer]

All this fuss , just because the pretty little girl didn't get to sing .

Maybe she had a flawed voice ??? What's so wrong with using the other girl's sweet voice ???

So maybe she can't be a singer , but there's acting/modelling for her in the future . She'll get over it and in no time she'll be feeling better about herself .

maybe they could let them sing together.

Actually that is a very good idea...!

[Loburt]

All this fuss , just because the pretty little girl didn't get to sing .

Maybe she had a flawed voice ??? What's so wrong with using the other girl's sweet voice ???

So maybe she can't be a singer , but there's acting/modelling for her in the future . She'll get over it and in no time she'll be feeling better about herself .

maybe they could let them sing together.

Actually that is a very good idea...!

Yes, it would have been.

But the official from the Communist Party insisted that the child must be "flawless."

Human beings aren't flawless.

So the only acceptable option for the Communist Party official was to fake it.

By the way, as the Times story points out, there was a considerable deal of angry comments about this from Chinese people who felt it was dishonest, manipulative and wrong.

Of course, the Communist Party censors tried to stop those comments.

People should put on their best faces, flaws and all.

[sunsnow]

If there is ONE LINK you click today, and one thing to read about olympics today, do click this if you are a red-blooded male:

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/photo/2008-08/13/content_6933290.htm

link seems dead to me.

So it does to me if I use Firefox to access it but Internet explorer works...I forgot to add that as good and cool as China Daily is as website, it has also been coded for internet explorer (and Safari...there is something wrong with Firefox not showing the pages hmmm)...I noticed that yesterday too when I was trying to click the photo reports as none of them worked and my pc was running hot from all the flash animations hitting the CPU...:-(

[Dave40]

(Dave) please let me know who's doing what in the medals table,

How's team GBR getting on? have they got any medals yet?

Dave? ...Dave? .........speak to me Dave.. David are you there?

What's happening Dave?

Yeah Yeah Yeah, It's about bloody time you lot fired up, the big lady ain't singing just yet!!!!

[zeusbheld]

All this fuss , just because the pretty little girl didn't get to sing .

Maybe she had a flawed voice ??? What's so wrong with using the other girl's sweet voice ???

So maybe she can't be a singer , but there's acting/modelling for her in the future . She'll get over it and in no time she'll be feeling better about herself .

maybe they could let them sing together.

Actually that is a very good idea...!

Yes, it would have been.

But the official from the Communist Party insisted that the child must be "flawless."

Human beings aren't flawless.

So the only acceptable option for the Communist Party official was to fake it.

By the way, as the Times story points out, there was a considerable deal of angry comments about this from Chinese people who felt it was dishonest, manipulative and wrong.

Of course, the Communist Party censors tried to stop those comments.

People should put on their best faces, flaws and all.

a somewhat different perspective:

anyone who has ever been involved with casting at *any* level in showbiz in *any* country knows this kind of **** goes on *all* the time. and the actors, singers, etc are just happy to get a part.

why hasn't anyone been protesting Bollywood? pretty much NONE of the singers onscreen are the people whose voices you hear.

"People should put on their best faces, flaws and all."

sheeeit i've never heard such a pollyanna-ish sentiment expressed *anywhere* near *any* aspect of showbiz at *any* level, including student films.

the opening ceremony was directed by zhang yimou. a filmmaker and a damn good one. film is all about cheating and illusion to create an effect.

it makes sense for the actual olympic events, but saying the opening freakin' ceremony should be about people putting on their best faces, flaws and all, you might as well crusade against fake **** among las vegas showgirls.

[zeusbheld]

one thing i noticed that's interesting, in terms of media bias, without anyone having to lie about anything.

china have far more gold medals than any other national team. the US, on the other hand, have more medals overall than China.

china, and any other news outlet outside of the US i've looked at, list china as leading in the medal table.

any news outlet FROM the US i've looked at... who's first? USA!

IMO either way of counting is legit as long as you're consistent. however, i find it interesting but not at all surprising that every news outlet from the US i've seen has chosen the option most flattering to their country.

and before you USA-bashers jump in with your 'told ya so" horseshit, bear in mind that the ONLY reason *your* country doesn't do the same is that *your* country can't win enough medals.

[Niranahm]

one thing i noticed that's interesting, in terms of media bias, without anyone having to lie about anything.

china have far more gold medals than any other national team. the US, on the other hand, have more medals overall than China.

china, and any other news outlet outside of the US i've looked at, list china as leading in the medal table.

any news outlet FROM the US i've looked at... who's first? USA!

IMO either way of counting is legit as long as you're consistent. however, i find it interesting but not at all surprising that every news outlet from the US i've seen has chosen the option most flattering to their country.

and before you USA-bashers jump in with your 'told ya so" horseshit, bear in mind that the ONLY reason *your* country doesn't do the same is that *your* country can't win enough medals.

This morning on CNN, some of the British newscasters made a point of proudly noting that GB were up to third in the medal table. Then a table showing GB fifth in the overall medal standings was flashed up (of course US in top position).

You could see the strain on the Brit's faces as they clamped down hard on their tongues...

Then flicking over to BBC World, there was the table ordered by gold medals with GB in third behind US, without any remarks that there was another way of ordering the table...

My favorite comments from UK media:

* If the US didn't have Phelps we've be lying second in the table

* UK now tops the global standings in gold medals won in sports performed in a sitting position!

[Loburt]

it makes sense for the actual olympic events, but saying the opening freakin' ceremony should be about people putting on their best faces, flaws and all, you might as well crusade against fake **** among las vegas showgirls.

lol. well, that's my opinion and i'm stickin' to it.

actually, i wouldn't give a hoot about all the faking, but i do think it's wrong when it involves kids.

and i'm not the only one who thinks that way. there were apparently a lot of angry comments from chinese about just that.

[Niranahm]

http://c4news.com/livepages/olympics2008/c4/olympicsResults.html

The top three in terms of medals per POPULATION

1. Jamaica

2. Slovenia

3. Australia

Medals per GDP

1. North Korea

2. Zimbabwe

3. Mongolia

Medals per human rights (US Freedom House points)

1. US

2. Australia

3. Great Britain

Sort of shows that per capita GDP and human rights are inversely proportional... One leads to the other?

[BJ]

I thought the Olympics were for sporting achievements and competing is what they are looking at and not what country carries home in medals.

There are many ways at looking at medal counts and I think the countries who don't have abundant sums of money to spend on sport or making sporting greats are the winners.

If you take all the tax payers money away from many countries and then told them to compete on equal grounds,maybe then we could look at medal counts. :wink:

[Khun_Sam]

Why does it all have to be so serious people?

Is it really such a big deal?

The Olympics were started to end wars NOT start them, REMEMBER! :roll:

I did not know that it was started to end wars. Didn't work out too well, did it?

I also don't understand why people are making such a big deal out of this.

I am sure both girls are very proud to have participated in the opening ceremony in their own way. How about the hundreds of other girls who were not selected to particiapte in the show because the were not telegenic enough or because they could not sing well enough. How do they feel?

WhenI was at school my good looking friend was getting all the hot girls. Was I bitter about it? Hell No!I ******* lived with it.

[zeusbheld]

it makes sense for the actual olympic events, but saying the opening freakin' ceremony should be about people putting on their best faces, flaws and all, you might as well crusade against fake **** among las vegas showgirls.

lol. well, that's my opinion and i'm stickin' to it.

actually, i wouldn't give a hoot about all the faking, but i do think it's wrong when it involves kids.

and i'm not the only one who thinks that way. there were apparently a lot of angry comments from chinese about just that.

i think getting kids into showbiz, in general, is a bad idea.

on the upside for child actors, if their egos don't get crushed they become very self-assured and capable of dealing with rejection. and it's complicated because often the kids want to do it.

also, with a high profile event like this, it's hard to say home much control zhang had. probably very little over things like this. although if he worked for a hollywood studio, he'd probably have just as little (and they'd tell him to replace the kid too).

[Dave40]

The top three in terms of medals per POPULATION

1. Jamaica

2. Slovenia

3. Australia

Not bad for a country of convicts!!!

2012 should be good for england wales scottyland North Ire, oops what's that 4 countries they will need a forklift to carry all those medals!!!!!

[Loburt]

it makes sense for the actual olympic events, but saying the opening freakin' ceremony should be about people putting on their best faces, flaws and all, you might as well crusade against fake **** among las vegas showgirls.

lol. well, that's my opinion and i'm stickin' to it.

actually, i wouldn't give a hoot about all the faking, but i do think it's wrong when it involves kids.

and i'm not the only one who thinks that way. there were apparently a lot of angry comments from chinese about just that.

i think getting kids into showbiz, in general, is a bad idea.

on the upside for child actors, if their egos don't get crushed they become very self-assured and capable of dealing with rejection. and it's complicated because often the kids want to do it.

also, with a high profile event like this, it's hard to say home much control zhang had. probably very little over things like this. although if he worked for a hollywood studio, he'd probably have just as little (and they'd tell him to replace the kid too).

from what i read, it appeared zhang was unhappy with how it worked out as far as the kids were concerned also. it wasn't him. it was, according to the reports, a communist party official.

[zeusbheld]

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from what i read, it appeared zhang was unhappy with how it worked out as far as the kids were concerned also. it wasn't him. it was, according to the reports, a communist party official.

not surprised. i'm sure there's a LOT that he'd have done differently had he been given creative freedom. historically all those "fifth generation" directors were more art-film types and the opening ceremony was at times a bit... cheesy, at least considering where zhang has set the bar.

but hey it's the opening ceremony of the olympics, it's always halfway between a vegas review and a fascist, nationalist parade (well not always, for the nazis it was ALL fascist parade).

[luckyphil247]

And what about the little girl who was told she's too ugly to sing on camera and represent China? Will she just get over it too?

Maybe they just told her that she wasn't tall enough ??? ( Many ways to skin a cat ) .

We might not even know for a fact that she's upset .

The reports are all from the Western media . Surely they'd have better sense to not tell her the 'real reason' why she didn't get to sing on camera .

Western journalist holding the microphone to the girl ....."Excuse me little Chinese girl ; Do you know the real reason you didn't sing on camera was because you were considered too ugly ???

Little Chinese girl looking at her mum and in Chinese saying ...."huh , I dont understand ???"

LP. your pulling your wanker here, it is all over the the net, translated versions, western versions, it was originally reported by a leak from the chinese staff...

There are pictures to support the reasons etc, not enough documentation for you??

Oh sorry , didn't know the little girl had access to the internet .

That changes everything then !!!