Money VS. Happiness

[drlovelife8]

mmmm fair comment,but if the old fart were loaded, couldn't he just rent some world class company......

No sorry, steak still wins.

That shrimp flicking harlot would drop her man like a stone for steak 365 days a year ,or at least fresh Somtam, and a large pay out upon his death!

Then she can return to eating with her 'brother' and flicking shrimp as appose to her flicking her bean with her sugar daddy.

But yes I do get what she means.

[English_Bob]

I picture some sad old fart eating his steak with wine hating life...then picture a happy couple flinging shrimp at eachother on a street corner.

I'm sorry, but you're all assuming that these are mutually exclusive...

How about THESE scenarios?

A sad old fart eating rice because he's poor, and a happy wealthy couple enjoying a fabulous expensive meal together.

Why do you all persist in this fantasy that rich people are sad and lonely? I find rich people are usually happy and surrounded by friends.

All of the naive posts about enjoying the simple, free things in life are fine... but what makes you think rich people can't enjoy these things too?

I know the people from Bed Supperclub... and I've eaten with them on several occasions... sometimes we ate at five star restaurants, and sometimes we ate Isaan food from plastic plates. And we had a blast in all places...

But we had the CHOICE!!

Poor people CAN enjoy the cheap stuff, but they CAN'T enjoy the expensive stuff.

[drlovelife8]

Bravo

[SoBeIt]

Not The End...

Have you ever been very rich?

Then how can you answer that question and be sure you're right?

You might find that money gives you the chance to do all the things you love.... but more often.... and in nicer places.

Ive never been very very rich.

Let's say Ive never been poor..

Money might give me **** load of popper, alot of nice high heels etc..

All thoese things might make me glad and they give me what I want..

But my happiness are..

I want my children grow up healthy and become good ppl in the society.

I want my aunt stop being bitter and really see that ppl around here love her.

I want one of my friend gets well soon from her cancer..

All thoese thing above.. money cannot buy..

I think my happiness are slightly different than yours..

I like the comment from SomAmour

there are 2 kind of happiness

real happiness and illusion of happiness

real happiness is require a lot of hard work within one self

illusion of happiness needs a lot of hard work also, to get the money to buy what ever that they think it will make them happy! but this kind of happiness they have to work endlessly

and most people are still lost in their illusion of happiness...

I will not argue with you EB.. coz we're talking about 2 different things..

[SweetieBabie]

Yes, EB, we all have choices. and what we all want are not the same.

let me quote mister Dale Canegie

Everybody in this world is seeking happiness- and there is on sure way to find it. That is by controlling your thought. Happiness does not depend on outward conditions. It depends on the inner conditions. It is not what you have or who you are or where you are or what you are doing that makes you happy or unhappy. It is what you think about it.

[bigKus]

let me quote mister Dale Canegie

Everybody in this world is seeking happiness- and there is on sure way to find it. That is by controlling your thought. Happiness does not depend on outward conditions. It depends on the inner conditions. It is not what you have or who you are or where you are or what you are doing that makes you happy or unhappy. It is what you think about it.

Right..

As my utmost happiness at the moment is to see my father still jog in the morning

[Admin_2]

I picture some sad old fart eating his steak with wine hating life...then picture a happy couple flinging shrimp at eachother on a street corner.

I'm sorry, but you're all assuming that these are mutually exclusive...

How about THESE scenarios?

A sad old fart eating rice because he's poor, and a happy wealthy couple enjoying a fabulous expensive meal together.

Why do you all persist in this fantasy that rich people are sad and lonely? I find rich people are usually happy and surrounded by friends.

All of the naive posts about enjoying the simple, free things in life are fine... but what makes you think rich people can't enjoy these things too?

I know the people from Bed Supperclub... and I've eaten with them on several occasions... sometimes we ate at five star restaurants, and sometimes we ate Isaan food from plastic plates. And we had a blast in all places...

But we had the CHOICE!!

Poor people CAN enjoy the cheap stuff, but they CAN'T enjoy the expensive stuff.

Of course you just had to delete the first part of my comment...Thus taking it out of context, Burrito Boy! I was merely defending Burrito Doy's point that money doesn't have the final say in whether or not you're happy.

There are always exceptions...and plenty of them when it comes to this discussion.

[drlovelife8]

Not The End...

Have you ever been very rich?

Then how can you answer that question and be sure you're right?

You might find that money gives you the chance to do all the things you love.... but more often.... and in nicer places.

Ive never been very very rich.

Let's say Ive never been poor..

Money might give me sh*t load of popper, alot of nice high heels etc..

All thoese things might make me glad and they give me what I want..

But my happiness are..

I want my children grow up healthy and become good ppl in the society.

I want my aunt stop being bitter and really see that ppl around here love her.

I want one of my friend gets well soon from her cancer..

All thoese thing above.. money cannot buy..

1) If you have a problem conceiving kids for some reason, money will buy amazing fertility treatment. You may end up with twins!!! If (and I hope this DOESN'T happen) your kids are born in some way unhealthy, money will aid being able to giove them excellent medical care.

2) Your Aunt can do these things. Good therapy, top psycholgical treatment if depression has set in. A nice holiday with a few family members might help too. But these all cost money.

3) I feel for your friend greatly. Hopefully he/she has some cash for excellent after care and medical treatment, both of which will reduce the return possibility.

You might be able to buy happiness in a shop (knocking shop perhaps lol).

Money also allowed you to travel and study internationally, learn new languages, buy a lap top for your tf posts and porn downloads as well as all your butt plus all your clothes and stuff.

As I have already said. Unless you have been there [poor] (and in this country you are lucky to have been able to avoid it), it's hard to understand how much happiness money can provide you with.

[English_Bob]

Everybody in this world is seeking happiness- and there is on sure way to find it. That is by controlling your thought. Happiness does not depend on outward conditions. It depends on the inner conditions. It is not what you have or who you are or where you are or what you are doing that makes you happy or unhappy. It is what you think about it.

New age bollocks....

Let's see... 2 guys are diagnosed with painful illness.

Guy A is poor and can't afford treatment.

Guy B nips down to Bumrungrad and gets himself cured.

How is Dale Carnegie's positive thinking gonna help Guy A?

You want your children to grow up healthy, wealthy and wise? Good! Send them to a private school... get them educated abroad... buy them fresh, healthy food... have the doctor check 'em over once a year... get 'em innoculated.

Try doing that on minimum wage.

You know, you are all lovey-dovey, warm and fuzzy... but you need to see the reality.

Life without money is tough. People with tough lives aren't generally happy.

And the funny thing is, despite you arguing with me... deep down you believe the same thing. That's why you like shopping. That's why you like shiny, new stuff. You are materialistic - of course you can deny it, but you ALL get pleasure from your computers... try giving one up for just one week. See how you like being poor.

Money buys you stuff. Money gives you privilege. Money gives you security. Money makes you live longer. Money gives you experience. Money gives you education. Money makes you healthier. Money gives you choice.

And it also gives your family and loved ones the same stuff.

Stop dissing money... you all LOVE it!

[drlovelife8]

I ******* love money because it has made me happier.

I hated being poor because it made me unhappier.

Money all the way.

[yamahacrasher]

^I got to agree here, I just love money and how happy I am when I'm together with My Money. Ahh. Feeling so much better now that being a broke azz at school some 15 years ago.

Well said again EB, totally agree on your posts here.

[bigKus]

I dont love money.. if i do, I would have kept it with me longer than this

[English_Bob]

BTW

Carnegie had tapped into the average American's desire to have more self-confidence, and by 1914, he was earning $500 - the equivalent of nearly $10,000 now - every week.

It's easy to spout this stuff when you're loaded.

Ask a poor person for the real answer... better still ask someone who has been both rich and poor. See when they were happier.

At one point in my life, I was estranged from my family. I was trying to pay for my own university tuition and worked two jobs. I became homeless, living hand to mouth because I couldn't afford to study and pay rent.

When one of my teeth needed filling, I couldn't afford to go to the dentist, so I pulled it out myself. I couldn't even afford to get drunk to numb the pain.

I struggled daily to get enough money to eat... you wanna know whether money has made me happier?

Unless you've truly been poor, desperately poor, you can't know the true worth of money.

[drlovelife8]

not too removed from my own lessons in cash love.

And as I have harped on loads "If yo aint been there, it's hard to fully understand what money can really do.

[SomAmour]

are you talking about the need of money in life or the need of money for your desire ?

" we all do need money to live but we don't need to be it slave"

[pandorea]

New age bollocks....

Let's see... 2 guys are diagnosed with painful illness.

Guy A is poor and can't afford treatment.

Guy B nips down to Bumrungrad and gets himself cured.

How is Dale Carnegie's positive thinking gonna help Guy A?

You want your children to grow up healthy, wealthy and wise? Good! Send them to a private school... get them educated abroad... buy them fresh, healthy food... have the doctor check 'em over once a year... get 'em innoculated.

Try doing that on minimum wage.

You know, you are all lovey-dovey, warm and fuzzy... but you need to see the reality.

Life without money is tough. People with tough lives aren't generally happy.

And the funny thing is, despite you arguing with me... deep down you believe the same thing. That's why you like shopping. That's why you like shiny, new stuff. You are materialistic - of course you can deny it, but you ALL get pleasure from your computers... try giving one up for just one week. See how you like being poor.

Money buys you stuff. Money gives you privilege. Money gives you security. Money makes you live longer. Money gives you experience. Money gives you education. Money makes you healthier. Money gives you choice.

And it also gives your family and loved ones the same stuff.

Stop dissing money... you all LOVE it!

Depends on where you live, if Thailand or USA that private school thing and private hospitals could be an advancetage when you have money. (And you know what, many of private schools in Thailand are crap. Be careful with that. Those "international" schools don't necessary mean good schools.)

Here in DK, the government pays for education and heath care. Most people get the same, no matter how rich or poor you are. You could have a heart-operation for free, and a millionair is laying in a bed next to the poor one in a hospital. And their kids go to the same public school and so on.

I don't hate money and if it can buy me happiness, Yes!! but it never last long. Happiness is from within..sometime money can't buy...just sometime.

[drlovelife8]

are you talking about the need of money in life or the need of money for your desire ?

" we all do need money to live but we don't need to be it slave"

Fully agree. Don't be its slave. Make it work for you and then improve your life and (most probably) your happiness.

If you have a bad accent or are a wrong'un, get elocution lessons if you wish.

If you haven't been to another country, book a flight.

If you want to make Mum and Dad happier, buy them something you know they have always wanted and others you love too.

If you are in bad shape, join a good gym and get trained up by a pro. Get some HGH too lol.

Eat great food, that alone will improve your feeling of well being.

Being able to help those less fortunate (donation to a Tsunami fund). If you have plenty of cash you can do this.

If you are strugling to make ends meet or dirt poor, doing all these wonderful things and all the other wonderful things mentioned in this thread become somewhere from hard to impossible to do.

[garlic]

New age bollocks....

Let's see... 2 guys are diagnosed with painful illness.

Guy A is poor and can't afford treatment.

Guy B nips down to Bumrungrad and gets himself cured.

How is Dale Carnegie's positive thinking gonna help Guy A?

You want your children to grow up healthy, wealthy and wise? Good! Send them to a private school... get them educated abroad... buy them fresh, healthy food... have the doctor check 'em over once a year... get 'em innoculated.

Try doing that on minimum wage.

You know, you are all lovey-dovey, warm and fuzzy... but you need to see the reality.

Life without money is tough. People with tough lives aren't generally happy.

And the funny thing is, despite you arguing with me... deep down you believe the same thing. That's why you like shopping. That's why you like shiny, new stuff. You are materialistic - of course you can deny it, but you ALL get pleasure from your computers... try giving one up for just one week. See how you like being poor.

Money buys you stuff. Money gives you privilege. Money gives you security. Money makes you live longer. Money gives you experience. Money gives you education. Money makes you healthier. Money gives you choice.

And it also gives your family and loved ones the same stuff.

Stop dissing money... you all LOVE it!

Depends on where you live, if Thailand or USA that private school thing and private hospitals could be an advancetage when you have money. (And you know what, many of private schools in Thailand are crap. Be careful with that. Those "international" schools don't necessary mean good schools.)

Here in DK, the government pays for education and heath care. Most people get the same, no matter how rich or poor you are. You could have a heart-operation for free, and a millionair is laying in a bed next to the poor one in a hospital. And their kids go to the same public school and so on.

I don't hate money and if it can buy me happiness, Yes!! but it never last long. Happiness is from within..sometime money can't buy...just sometime.

nikie...i know you have free health care and education but...aren't your wages taxed at near 50% for that benefit?

[zeusbheld]

huh, give me a clue, which ones?

Just want to make a point that not having much money can be happier than less one. It's up to ourself. Money is what we use not it use us. We can use it for our basic need and some entertaining. Don't u agree that it's doesn't matter what u eat but it's more dilicious when u eat with someone u love most?

Good nite, Rob. Sorry to be cruel to EB, i just have a crush on him

Firstly, use the private messages for your carnal urges.

Secondly......... It would take some f*cking amazing company and love to make Khow pak kai from a street stall in Khlong Toey taste as good as a top steak with a really fresh salad, a fantastic red wine.

So no I don't think I can agree fully with "Don't u agree that it's doesn't matter what u eat but it's more dilicious when u eat with someone u love most?"

Surely you know what she means...

I picture some sad old fart eating his steak with wine hating life...then picture a happy couple flinging shrimp at eachother on a street corner.

**** that if the steak's good enough and the wine's good enough *i* at least won't be hating life.

[drlovelife8]

New age bollocks....

Let's see... 2 guys are diagnosed with painful illness.

Guy A is poor and can't afford treatment.

Guy B nips down to Bumrungrad and gets himself cured.

How is Dale Carnegie's positive thinking gonna help Guy A?

You want your children to grow up healthy, wealthy and wise? Good! Send them to a private school... get them educated abroad... buy them fresh, healthy food... have the doctor check 'em over once a year... get 'em innoculated.

Try doing that on minimum wage.

You know, you are all lovey-dovey, warm and fuzzy... but you need to see the reality.

Life without money is tough. People with tough lives aren't generally happy.

And the funny thing is, despite you arguing with me... deep down you believe the same thing. That's why you like shopping. That's why you like shiny, new stuff. You are materialistic - of course you can deny it, but you ALL get pleasure from your computers... try giving one up for just one week. See how you like being poor.

Money buys you stuff. Money gives you privilege. Money gives you security. Money makes you live longer. Money gives you experience. Money gives you education. Money makes you healthier. Money gives you choice.

And it also gives your family and loved ones the same stuff.

Stop dissing money... you all LOVE it!

Depends on where you live, if Thailand or USA that private school thing and private hospitals could be an advancetage when you have money. (And you know what, many of private schools in Thailand are crap. Be careful with that. Those "international" schools don't necessary mean good schools.)

Here in DK, the government pays for education and heath care. Most people get the same, no matter how rich or poor you are. You could have a heart-operation for free, and a millionair is laying in a bed next to the poor one in a hospital. And their kids go to the same public school and so on.

I don't hate money and if it can buy me happiness, Yes!! but it never last long. Happiness is from within..sometime money can't buy...just sometime.

nikie...i know you have free health care and education but...aren't your wages taxed at near 50% for that benefit?

New age bollocks....

Let's see... 2 guys are diagnosed with painful illness.

Guy A is poor and can't afford treatment.

Guy B nips down to Bumrungrad and gets himself cured.

How is Dale Carnegie's positive thinking gonna help Guy A?

You want your children to grow up healthy, wealthy and wise? Good! Send them to a private school... get them educated abroad... buy them fresh, healthy food... have the doctor check 'em over once a year... get 'em innoculated.

Try doing that on minimum wage.

You know, you are all lovey-dovey, warm and fuzzy... but you need to see the reality.

Life without money is tough. People with tough lives aren't generally happy.

And the funny thing is, despite you arguing with me... deep down you believe the same thing. That's why you like shopping. That's why you like shiny, new stuff. You are materialistic - of course you can deny it, but you ALL get pleasure from your computers... try giving one up for just one week. See how you like being poor.

Money buys you stuff. Money gives you privilege. Money gives you security. Money makes you live longer. Money gives you experience. Money gives you education. Money makes you healthier. Money gives you choice.

And it also gives your family and loved ones the same stuff.

Stop dissing money... you all LOVE it!

Depends on where you live, if Thailand or USA that private school thing and private hospitals could be an advancetage when you have money. (And you know what, many of private schools in Thailand are crap. Be careful with that. Those "international" schools don't necessary mean good schools.)

Here in DK, the government pays for education and heath care. Most people get the same, no matter how rich or poor you are. You could have a heart-operation for free, and a millionair is laying in a bed next to the poor one in a hospital. And their kids go to the same public school and so on.

I don't hate money and if it can buy me happiness, Yes!! but it never last long. Happiness is from within..sometime money can't buy...just sometime.

nikie...i know you have free health care and education but...aren't your wages taxed at near 50% for that benefit?

In the UK most health care can be for free, but it is laughable to think it is even close to the best... MRSA anyone?

Many international schools are probably nowhere near as good as they advertise. However I would feel a lot better about my daughter or son being educated at Harrow International school then Wat Noi Nappa Khun.

Interesting topic this.

[pandorea]

nikie...i know you have free health care and education but...aren't your wages taxed at near 50% for that benefit?

I forgot that I pay so much for income taxe, not to mention the VAT 25%.

I'm moving back to Thailand!

[pandorea]

[ I would feel a lot better about my daughter or son being educated at Harrow International school then Wat Noi Nappa Khun.

Interesting topic this.

Why quote twice, Doc?

What's wrong with Wat Noi Nappa Khun? No, I didn't go to that school but just wandering. If I have a son, and he can pass the exam to Suankularb Wittayalai (which is, btw, a public school) I will be very proud. I won't send my son to any "international" school in Thailand. I don't want him to hang out with those spoilt rotten kids.

[pandorea]

Can money buy you happiness? If so, how much does it cost?

how much you got? i'm not sure of the answer but i'm willing to experiment.

Your happiness can't be that expensive. Name your price and send me your bank account details.

[garlic]

nikie...i know you have free health care and education but...aren't your wages taxed at near 50% for that benefit?

I forgot that I pay so much for income taxe, not to mention the VAT 25%.

I'm moving back to Thailand!

lol! one way or the other they get us no matter where we live...

[SoBeIt]

Ive never said that I dont like money, have I?

as Ive never been poor, from my point of view there are many things that money cannot buy to make me happy..

I perfectly understand what you mean EB..

But doesnt mean that I have to agree with you..

All suggestions that you gave to me.. it MIGHT work.. but ..

Maybe my kids are assholes and evil inside..?

Maybe my aunt is too stubborn too change ..?

Maybe my friend will never have a chance to be fine again..?

Yes money can give you more chance to have a better lives..

but it is not always and it is not for sure..

sorry for late reply

I was cooking coz i have no maid to cook for me

imagine how life will be to have someone to do things for u all the time

nhaaaaaaaaaaaa i enjoy doing myself

money cannot buy the happiness while you cook the meal for the one you love :wink: