robbie36 Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 Your lifestyle choice is perfectly acceptable. You recognise that humans are essentially selfish and focus and concentrate on their own happiness. You can also see that having kids is a major sacrifice of time and effort for both mother and father. Evolution is essentially a game of persuading selfish people to do one unselfish act for the good of the species. Your lifestyle is perfectly logical but if we all encompass it we cease to exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankenburner2 Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 Well done Eagle! At least you understood the gist of my post...The question was: Why do people find it hard to believe I am not married? NOT: Why am I not married.?..... I KNOW why I am not married...Cos I don't want to be....Not because ( as several of you considerate big hearted types suggested) Ï"m some sad lonely loser .. So back to the subject... IN this modern emancipated age why is it inconcievable that you can have a fun filled fullfiling and rewarding life without a spouse. I know that Thai culture is family based...many Thai men love families so much they have more than one..... Thought they don''t always know about each other..... I have had several great relationships in the past (In Singapore, Australia , UK and Malaysia) But when I got to the stage where marriage/living together was discussed I decided it wasn't for me. Which is considered more of a sucess?....A 40 something guy married twicem, failed and divorced and looking for another relationship cos he can't survive on his own....Or someone who is independant with a good career, stable lifestyle, no debts, and freedom. Today more and more educated professionals (male and female) are delaying marriage so they can enjoy the fruits of their labour...Big problem in Singapore..Girls don't want a husband they are having too much fun... Obviously there comes a time when nature takes its course and people decide they want a family and kids...I myself might find the idea appealing in a few years but not right now...I'm not scared of beng alone as I'm an only child who's parents are deceased...but I do think about it sometimes.. After all If I wanted to get the family thing going I could do what most of the newly arrived divorcees do here....Nip down to the nearest bar and hook up with the first Noi they meet...buy a house, car and fluffy dog...and then wait for her run the bank account dry before disapearing with a newer and better heeled arrival. But I haven't....finding a girl is not a problem here...finding a good one is.. Anyhow pick the bones out of this.... sorry about that...my mistake...thanks for the clarrification. Now that I understand better, like you, I wonder why people can't believe you are single. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiCKeDBiRD Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 Well done Eagle! At least you understood the gist of my post... The question was: Why do people find it hard to believe I am not married? NOT: Why am I not married.?..... I KNOW why I am not married...Cos I don't want to be....Not because ( as several of you considerate big hearted types suggested) Ï"m some sad lonely loser .. So back to the subject... IN this modern emancipated age why is it inconcievable that you can have a fun filled fullfiling and rewarding life without a spouse. I know that Thai culture is family based...many Thai men love families so much they have more than one..... Thought they don''t always know about each other..... I have had several great relationships in the past (In Singapore, Australia , UK and Malaysia) But when I got to the stage where marriage/living together was discussed I decided it wasn't for me. Which is considered more of a sucess?....A 40 something guy married twicem, failed and divorced and looking for another relationship cos he can't survive on his own....Or someone who is independant with a good career, stable lifestyle, no debts, and freedom. Today more and more educated professionals (male and female) are delaying marriage so they can enjoy the fruits of their labour...Big problem in Singapore..Girls don't want a husband they are having too much fun... Obviously there comes a time when nature takes its course and people decide they want a family and kids...I myself might find the idea appealing in a few years but not right now...I'm not scared of beng alone as I'm an only child who's parents are deceased...but I do think about it sometimes.. After all If I wanted to get the family thing going I could do what most of the newly arrived divorcees do here....Nip down to the nearest bar and hook up with the first Noi they meet...buy a house, car and fluffy dog...and then wait for her run the bank account dry before disapearing with a newer and better heeled arrival. But I haven't....finding a girl is not a problem here...finding a good one is.. Anyhow pick the bones out of this.... Well you're not old,presumably reasonably healthy and probably still have a strong sense of indefatigability.Millions of similar,intentionally single guys out there like you.The time to possibly start having 2nd thoughts is when you're 70/80 ish and can't walk,shag or go to the bog.Thats the time to find some young,energetic mail order bride from Isaan.By then,they would have invented Viagra that lasts like a year or something per tablet.Schweng Yes.. but it would NOT be a matter of Viagra though... If you were a 20 something woman ... Why would you shag an old man who depends on viagra... if you could go out shagging someone who is half his age... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiaranM Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 staying single is now as much of a choice as getting married,settling down and having kids and it would appear more ppl in the west r now starting to make that choice. with a 50%+ divorce rate maybe not surprisingly. however in asia life is till very much family orientated so being single at 40 is somewhat uncommon. also most of the farangs in and around that age who come to thailand tend to be married or to have been married at some time in the past. this is probably why ppl in thailand find it strange that u r not and never have been single. as for myself was married once and would be extremely reluctant to even consider the possibilty of getting married ever again. to be honest i find relationships pretty difficult and claustrophobic. f**ks sake even my right hand is getting jealous when i use my left for a change !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiCKeDBiRD Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 Well you're not old,presumably reasonably healthy and probably still have a strong sense of indefatigability.Millions of similar,intentionally single guys out there like you.The time to possibly start having 2nd thoughts is when you're 70/80 ish and can't walk,shag or go to the bog.Thats the time to find some young,energetic mail order bride from Isaan.By then,they would have invented Viagra that lasts like a year or something per tablet.Schweng Yes.. but it would NOT be a matter of Viagra though... If you were a 20 something woman ... Why would you shag an old man who depends on viagra... if you could go out shagging someone who is half his age... hmm..... i would imagine the very same reason why you see young chicks with very old guys on Sukhumvit ...ie $$$ ker-ching$$$ .....and heck they can always get a samee noi when they feel like a proper bonk :wink: Yes... if you were 20s something woman... at the same certain of income. Would you get an 70-80s old hubby if you could get an 40-50s hubby ??? Dont forget .. they have choices too !!! :shock: < of course, in this particular $$$$$$ case, you definitely are going to have a Samee noi ... as your Samee luang is crap crap in bed.. and he depends on viagra... :shock: > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagle Posted September 16, 2005 Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 Well done Eagle! At least you understood the gist of my post... The question was: Why do people find it hard to believe I am not married? NOT: Why am I not married.?..... I KNOW why I am not married...Cos I don't want to be....Not because ( as several of you considerate big hearted types suggested) Ï"m some sad lonely loser .. So back to the subject... IN this modern emancipated age why is it inconcievable that you can have a fun filled fullfiling and rewarding life without a spouse. I know that Thai culture is family based...many Thai men love families so much they have more than one..... Thought they don''t always know about each other..... I have had several great relationships in the past (In Singapore, Australia , UK and Malaysia) But when I got to the stage where marriage/living together was discussed I decided it wasn't for me. Which is considered more of a sucess?....A 40 something guy married twicem, failed and divorced and looking for another relationship cos he can't survive on his own....Or someone who is independant with a good career, stable lifestyle, no debts, and freedom. Today more and more educated professionals (male and female) are delaying marriage so they can enjoy the fruits of their labour...Big problem in Singapore..Girls don't want a husband they are having too much fun... Obviously there comes a time when nature takes its course and people decide they want a family and kids...I myself might find the idea appealing in a few years but not right now...I'm not scared of beng alone as I'm an only child who's parents are deceased...but I do think about it sometimes.. After all If I wanted to get the family thing going I could do what most of the newly arrived divorcees do here....Nip down to the nearest bar and hook up with the first Noi they meet...buy a house, car and fluffy dog...and then wait for her run the bank account dry before disapearing with a newer and better heeled arrival. But I haven't....finding a girl is not a problem here...finding a good one is.. Anyhow pick the bones out of this.... Well you're not old,presumably reasonably healthy and probably still have a strong sense of indefatigability.Millions of similar,intentionally single guys out there like you.The time to possibly start having 2nd thoughts is when you're 70/80 ish and can't walk,shag or go to the bog.Thats the time to find some young,energetic mail order bride from Isaan.By then,they would have invented Viagra that lasts like a year or something per tablet.Schweng Yes.. but it would NOT be a matter of Viagra though... If you were a 20 something woman ... Why would you shag an old man who depends on viagra... if you could go out shagging someone who is half his age... hmm..... i would imagine the very same reason why you see young chicks with very old guys on Sukhumvit ...ie $$$ ker-ching$$$ .....and heck they can always get a samee noi when they feel like a proper bonk :wink: Well well I am almost 50 and I am still more then capable of giving a young lady a proper "bonk" Viagra is for someone with problems and if you think you need it then you have one............... :twisted: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PattayaDaz Posted September 16, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 16, 2005 dpuma wrote.. It didn't cross my mind but I didn't find it to hard. You are on this website,and are an active poster at that too. Stop caring about what people say and live your life. Apparently, you claim that we misunderstand you, well, we are going to keep misunderstanding you when you throw us off the wall topics. This is all we have about you. We don't live your life, or know what you've been through, so you are asking the wrong crowd as to why you believe that we find it hard to believe you are not married. Sorry mate wasn't asking TFérs. I meant people i meet...neighbors..friends or friends etc....they try to fix me up or introduce friends...or I meet a girl I like..an she says, "you have wife already" sometimes hard to persuade them that I'm not just out lookng for a mia noi...or a gik...eeeeee Wicked_bird wrote: Why would you shag an old man who depends on viagra... if you could go out shagging someone who is half his age... Well one I can't wait for WB to be 40...cos her husband won't woant to shag her by then even with viagra...he'll be down town with his 20 yr old mia noi... Eagle wrote: Well well I am almost 50 and I am still more then capable of giving a young lady a proper "bonk" Viagra is for someone with problems and if you think you need it then you have one............... RIGHT ON BROTHER....MORE POWER TO YOU!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbie36 Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 Well one I can't wait for WB to be 40...cos her husband won't want to shag her by then even with viagra...he'll be down town with his 20 yr old mia noi... PattayaDaz, I have absolutely no problem with your admission that you are effectively a self-centred prick. At least you are being honest with yourself and persuing your own perceived route to personal happiness. But, in my opinion, it is a big mistake to make assumptions about other peoples behaviour based on your own set of values. Everyone does tend to act that way. Your neighbours who want to introduce you to a nice girl are making the assumption that beneath your shallow exterior is a 'nice guy' waiting to break out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiaranM Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 Everyone does tend to act that way. Your neighbours who want to introduce you to a nice girl are making the assumption that beneath your shallow exterior is a 'nice guy' waiting to break out. dangerous assumption to make ... i reckon inside every horny perverted 40 year old guy is .... a horny perverted 21 year old guy waiting to break out !! :twisted: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loburt Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 But, in my opinion, it is a big mistake to make assumptions about other peoples behaviour based on your own set of values. In this particular case, I think his assumption is probably correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiCKeDBiRD Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 Well one I can't wait for WB to be 40...cos her husband won't want to shag her by then even with viagra...he'll be down town with his 20 yr old mia noi... The aboved statement is from a Man who seems to have never been to any real relationship. < aka .. never been truly loved> I understand his actions though... < if you could see from many of my posts to him... Its normal tha the said something back to me... though he is not capable of saying any smart.. due to a brain size limitted > PattayaDaz, I have absolutely no problem with your admission that you are effectively a self-centred prick. At least you are being honest with yourself and persuing your own perceived route to personal happiness. But, in my opinion, it is a big mistake to make assumptions about other peoples behaviour based on your own set of values. Everyone does tend to act that way. Your neighbours who want to introduce you to a nice girl are making the assumption that beneath your shallow exterior is a 'nice guy' waiting to break out. The above statement is from a Man who is LOVED by members of family & numerous of friends. But, in my opinion, it is a big mistake to make assumptions about other peoples behaviour based on your own set of values. In this particular case, I think his assumption is probably correct. The above statement is from a Man who seemed to be rejected by numerous of times and then became a bitter & miseralable git. < This I dont undesrsand ... really. If you have noticed from many posts from him to me... kind of bitter ... eh ??? -->>> feel free to PM me if wanna see those links of his bitter posts to me.> -WB-. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loburt Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 that's all true - in your little demented fantasy world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 I meant people i meet...neighbors..friends or friends etc....they try to fix me up or introduce friends...or I meet a girl I like..an she says, "you have wife already" sometimes hard to persuade them that I'm not just out lookng for a mia noi...or a gik...eeeeee well you stopped and took a look at your life and decided consciously how you want to live, rather than following the conventions of society. that's great, more power to you. but putting it this way makes the answer to your question kinda obvious doesnt it? if you dont follow the conventions of society, people who follow these conventions without examining them, will evaluate you according to those conventions. you can live life on your terms, you cannot expect everyone to like it or even understand it. not terribly mysterious really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PattayaDaz Posted September 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 Zeusbheld: wrote well you stopped and took a look at your life and decided consciously how you want to live, rather than following the conventions of society. that's great, more power to you. but putting it this way makes the answer to your question kinda obvious doesnt it? I can't argue with that.....what suits me doesn't alway suit others and vise versa.....They are usually the ones who are "concerned" about my lifestyle. Whereas each to his own is more my stye....Again, circumstance has affected the outcome of my life...Had my upbringing and situaton been more conventional I might also have become one of the masses...office job, chubby wife and 2.2 kids....It wasn't to be.. Wickedtird wrote: The aboved statement is from a Man who seems to have never been to any real relationship. < aka .. never been truly loved> I understand his actions though... < if you could see from many of my posts to him... Its normal tha the said something back to me... though he is not capable of saying any smart.. due to a brain size limitted > Yet another reply turned into a personal critique...Really is your life so sad, unappealing and dismal that you always have to be so negative..Funny really for someone who obvioulsy believes they have a wonderful well rounded perfect in every way existance...So perfect in fact that they never reveal anything about it...Come on WB how about telling us about yourself....your interests, desires, acomplishments and aspirations...it would make a refreshing chage from the usual imbittered,narcissistic, self absorbed comments on other peoples lives...In fact if your way of life is that wondeful maybe we could all aspire to it.... As for the "small brain" comment seems you have a fixation with small...before it was "small knob" do I see a pattern...Some short comming on your part....an insecurity maybe.....no never......your perfect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 But, in my opinion, it is a big mistake to make assumptions about other peoples behaviour based on your own set of values. In this particular case, I think his assumption is probably correct. An other classy post frrom Loburt. C U Next Tuesday ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiCKeDBiRD Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 The aboved statement is from a Man who seems to have never been to any real relationship. < aka .. never been truly loved> I understand his actions though... < if you could see from many of my posts to him... Its normal tha the said something back to me... though he is not capable of saying any smart.. due to a brain size limitted > Yet another reply turned into a personal critique...Really is your life so sad, unappealing and dismal that you always have to be so negative..Funny really for someone who obvioulsy believes they have a wonderful well rounded perfect in every way existance...So perfect in fact that they never reveal anything about it...Come on WB how about telling us about yourself....your interests, desires, acomplishments and aspirations...it would make a refreshing chage from the usual imbittered,narcissistic, self absorbed comments on other peoples lives...In fact if your way of life is that wondeful maybe we could all aspire to it.... As for the "small brain" comment seems you have a fixation with small...before it was "small knob" do I see a pattern...Some short comming on your part....an insecurity maybe.....no never......your perfect Actions speak louder than words.... -WB- PS..Mmmm well well... Its NOT my Fault that I happen to have a number of Good freinds who I do disscuss my private life situations with... ... and if I have never posted any of my private life situations onto TF... that does NOT mean I have a perfect life. BUT...at least, I have ppl to talk to in real life.. I dont have to broadcast my probs on here :idea: PPS. As long as I do remember.... I have never mentioned that I am Perfect.... NOT even Once ... :!: :idea: :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WiCKeDBiRD Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 But, in my opinion, it is a big mistake to make assumptions about other peoples behaviour based on your own set of values. In this particular case, I think his assumption is probably correct. An other classy post frrom Loburt. C U Next Tuesday ! Laurence my sweet darling, What is on next Tuesday ? Sorry, I cnat helpt it... Me is naturally being very nosy. -WB- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loburt Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 An other classy post frrom Loburt. C U Next Tuesday ! You'd have to actually have some class to recognize it's presence or absence, Laurence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PattayaDaz Posted September 17, 2005 Author Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 Methinks she doth protest too much..... Friends right...with you're outlook bet they love you.....misery loves company Go buy another selfhelp book.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frankenburner2 Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 :Go buy another selfhelp book.. as apposed to, let's say, another "how to get laid in pattaya" book? or..."sexual preferences of a 40 year old teenager" book? or..."Dude! Where's my wife?" book? or..."20 secrets you wouldn't tell you mother" book? or..."things you post semi-annonymously on a website but wouldn't be caught dead saying in public" book? ...that last one might make a good forum..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiaranM Posted September 17, 2005 Report Share Posted September 17, 2005 as apposed to, let's say, another "how to get laid in pattaya" book? or..."sexual preferences of a 40 year old teenager" book? or..."Dude! Where's my wife?" book? or..."20 secrets you wouldn't tell you mother" book? or..."things you post semi-annonymously on a website but wouldn't be caught dead saying in public" book? ...that last one might make a good forum..... now when fb2 is giving u advice u know u got problems !! however if u actually follow his advice then u really r in the **** !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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