CocoaBrotha Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 Guns don't kill people, people kill people............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyphil247 Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 There is a fine line between suicide and murder. When its so easy to get a gun, as is the case in the U.S , then that line often disappears . I think the simple solution would be to ban suicide , if that doesnt work you could try something totally different like ban guns ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loburt Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 Guns don't kill people, people kill people............ People with guns kill people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sunsnow Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 Does anyone in the USA has any idea why their own people are seemingly prone to this kind of situations? Or is this just imagination that it is something "typical"! (I try to resist believe that something like this really could be "typical".) All over the world people kill their families and then themselves, but my guess here is that much more rarely you see attacks against maybe your "target" AND to other bystanders in public places. It is not that rare to read about man killing his exwife and kids and themselves for example. But this is about profile of "twentyish men going on rampage" in USA that Americans seem to highlight themselves. In Scotland there was some years ago school shooting but I get feeling that American themselves seem to "highlight" especially these school shootings from what I read from the news. So it is not "outsiders" who wonder this, but amercians themselves think that maybe there is something peculiar going on? To me, those listings of "recent school shootings", to me it doesn't seem to be that many. Maybe once a year. What stands out is though these MASS school shootings... And that is something you do not seem to get elsewhere this often. I ask this as I read from british teachers blog, I quote: "America is basically a country with waaaay more than it's fair share of whackjobs. You don't get these constant school shootings in any other country in the world (Russia has mass shootings, but they're all terrorist related and nowhere near as often as in the US). I have been teaching in Thailand on and off for almost 4 years and it would never cross my mind for a second that somebody would walk into my classroom with a gun and shoot me and my kids. My own comment: Thailand has a LOT of gun crime, a HUGE amount. Much higher than USA. You couldn't PAY me to teach in the US - even without these horrific school shootings that occur every few months, you also have knives, guns, drugs, violence, teachers being attacked - all perfectly normal in American schools." Why most countries in the world do not have metal detectors in schools? (My wild guess.) Are they just more stupid, those countries that do not have these detectors so that they are not protecting their people from attacks? Or is there really a real problem when it comes to people attending schools in USA so that most countries do not even worry about such things? Is there metal detectors in British schools? Anyone know? What about German schools? Why Americans have to protect themselves with guns, with metal detectors, with security on schools and campuses? Is there REALLY more crime there? :roll: Is there maybe something in the drinkin wate, something...odd? So if some of you did not understand: I definetly are not saying "USA bad" but asking really for - is there REALLY something off in USA when it comes to schools? Or is it just something that stands out in the American media and statistically there is nothing different to the rest of the world? Is this something as Moore said "atmosphere of fear"? Media pushing these dangers out? Blowing them out of proportions because I just cant understand how basically people living in USA would be different to others. And do you statistically have this kind of attacks elsewhere in the world? Elsewhere you have much more gun crime per capita than in USA or same amounts, but single incidents then: do you have less elsewhere mass killings with those guns. What makes USA special, is the fact that other countries ahead and after it in the gun statistics are all developping or under-developped countries... 'farang_subson: nice comment:)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aphrodite Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 According to the news, I heard that kid was abused and not accepted from their friends...with a lot of pressure over him, it put him thru something we did not want to happen, tragedy!! I just think that its not totally his own fault but also people around him. I really feel sorry for both the kid and everyone who got shot there... But seriously lets not make it a racism issue, although i still think that a lot of people out there think that asian is no better than themselves and they would always look down on us when we're outside asia. jeez i hate when something like this happened :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave40 Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 April 1996 Gunman Martin Byrant killed 35 people in Port Arthur Tasmania Aust he was white with a mental illiness and had availability to guns, it can happened anywhere it's just so sad for the innocent people in the wrong spot at the wrong time. Automatic guns were banned from that time on or nearabouts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aphrodite Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 Maybe we should blame the person who invented guns in the first place?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiaranM Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 This guy was just a loser nutcase! He could have just as easily been a white loser nutcase, black loser nutcase, or whatever loser nutcase! In this case he was an Korean loser nutcase.... End of that...My comment about him having a small penis was not an Asian stab, but just saying that anybody that would do something like this must be hung like a cricket.... Anyone with a problem with this can f*ck off...... u seem to be the guy with most of the problems ... racist and hung up on penis size !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farang_subson Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 Well, this sort of thing has happened outside the US?check out the 2002 Erfurt (Germany) massacre. American media is wonderful at broadcasting the shortcomings of America to the rest of the world. But it does seem to be disproportionately American. I doubt there?s a single factor. You just mix all the ingredients in the right ratios, and you get an occasional explosion: *availability of firearms *the bullying culture in American high schools (why do we have that?...another question) *the lack of racial/spiritual/historical homogeneity?you may just feel like you don?t share anything with the guy on the other side of the street *disintegration of family structure (another complex issue) *American mythology?the frontiersman, manifest destiny, blah, blah, blah *the ?berserk student killer? has become a self-propagating meme in America *1,000 others that don?t pop into my mind right now Anyway, I agree with the Karbala comment. In a rational world, we?d be 1,000 times more freaked out by 30,000 needless deaths in Iraq. That?s not the way human brain works, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stegee Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 I work in Korea buttnose! I will say what I wish.... Mother f*cker,The Virginia Tech killer was a South Korean National Cho Seung Hui Age 23 English Major Probably had an extremely SMALL PENIS probably still bigger than yours!! keep your racial stereotyping to your red-neck self!! and the PM read as follows:: From: haiku_newyork To: stegee Posted: 18 Apr 2007 8:41 am Subject: XXX Quote message Hey, f*ck you hippie! I f*cking work in Korea and I see everyday what they do and what they think.. With that said, ofcourse it could have been a crazy white guy or a crazy black guy as well... :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeAussieGuy Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 I dont want to get into a discussion on my thoughts of the gun control laws in the USA, whch for the record I think are archaic and should have been left behind when Roy Rogers bowed out and the last of the indians stopped attacking wagon trains. We all know the gun lobby is too powerful in the USA for politicians to have the guts to go against them. Surely at least the number of rounds that can be purchased is one way to mitigate their danger, why the hell did the guy have 2 guns and hundreds of rounds of ammunition, what does someone need hundreds of rounds for if the so called Gun Control law is ostensibly for "protection"? If he is a shooter for sport then its the gun clubs that should dispense ammo, then they can merrily shoot all day and night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zombiedriven Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 STill to take a life then your own it dont matter who you are that is WRONG. As for the racial slander from the post writer that is more distrubing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farang_subson Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 I dont want to get into a discussion on my thoughts of the gun control laws in the USA, whch for the record I think are archaic and should have been left behind when Roy Rogers bowed out and the last of the indians stopped attacking wagon trains. It's not just NRA gun nuts. It's people like me, who are loathe to tinker with the constitution, whether the issue is guns, flag burning, abortion, or whatever. Yes, I know, we may or may not be talking solely about a "well-armed militia" in the U.S. Constitution. But the spirit of the constitution also has a strong "keep the government out of our lives" flavor that may not be found in the fabric of other societies. I like that spirit, and think sacrificing a bit of safety for a bit more freedom might be a good deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stegee Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 I dont want to get into a discussion on my thoughts of the gun control laws in the USA, whch for the record I think are archaic and should have been left behind when Roy Rogers bowed out and the last of the indians stopped attacking wagon trains. It's not just NRA gun nuts. It's people like me, who are loathe to tinker with the constitution, whether the issue is guns, flag burning, abortion, or whatever. Yes, I know, we may or may not be talking solely about a "well-armed militia" in the U.S. Constitution. But the spirit of the constitution also has a strong "keep the government out of our lives" flavor that may not be found in the fabric of other societies. I like that spirit, and think sacrificing a bit of safety for a bit more freedom might be a good deal. freedom to be shot dead by any nutter with a gun!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poolshark Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 Nationality is a non issue here. Yes thats right :!: :!: :!: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackyB Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 I also feel that nationality is not an issue here. But I wonder what would happen if an American did the same thing in Korea??? Or how about Thailand or another Asian country? Do you think nationality would be an issue then?? Hmm just wondering?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiaranM Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 I like that spirit, and think sacrificing a bit of safety for a bit more freedom might be a good deal. i fail to see why any responsible citizen has the need to own several guns and hundreds of rounds of ammo !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 I also feel that nationality is not an issue here. But I wonder what would happen if an American did the same thing in Korea??? Or how about Thailand or another Asian country? Do you think nationality would be an issue then?? Hmm just wondering?? nationality IS an issue goddamnit. mass murder at universities is an AMERICAN crime! didnt this dipshit know that korean students at respectable schools who either flunk out are supposed to either jump off a cliff or shoot only themselves, and only us 'merkins are allowed to mass murder other 'merkins????? wtf our immigration policy is too slack. and yes if a 'merkin did it here, there would be even more byzantine visa rules. at the very least. PS is this post has offended anyone, I DON'T CARE. you have a choice: laugh or cry at the whole thing. cry if you want but i am american and i remember columbine, i remember austin, i remember oklahoma city, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 I like that spirit, and think sacrificing a bit of safety for a bit more freedom might be a good deal. i feel to see why any responsible citizen has the need to own several guns and hundreds of rounds of ammo !! to take out the mofo in the bell tower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inamorato25 Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 Probably had an extremely SMALL PENISI work in Korea buttnose! I will say what I wish.... Well, if you've done the research, I guess it's OK. :twisted: I tend to agree with many of the posters here, that this could have been committed by anybody...anybody who lived in a country where "freedom to bear arms" has been taken to such an extreme that you can actually get a free gun when you open a bank account (in the more redneck states, according to Michael "total piece of ****" Moore). Canada has its fair share of weirdos and sickos -- and 80% of our population live a stone's throw from the US, yet our murder rate is a fraction of that in the US. I mean, in Washington DC, the murder rate is something like 78 per 100,000 people. In Toronto, it's about 4 per 100,000. Gun control, baby!! I'm all for it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CiaranM Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 Guns don't kill people, people kill people............ people with guns tend to kill a lot more people than people without guns ... how many students would have died if he'd only been armed with a banana !! Sgt.: We haven't done them, have we? Right. Bananas. How to defend yourself against a man armed with a banana. Now you, come at me with this banana. Catch! Now, it's quite simple to defend yourself against a man armed with a banana. First of all you force him to drop the banana; then, second, you eat the banana, thus disarming him. You have now rendered him 'elpless. Palin: Suppose he's got a bunch. Sgt.: Shut up. Idle: Suppose he's got a pointed stick. Sgt.: Shut up. Right now you, Mr Apricot. Chapman: 'Arrison. Sgt.: Sorry, Mr. 'Arrison. Come at me with that banana. Hold it like that, that's it. Now attack me with it. Come on! Come on! Come at me! Come at me then! (Shoots him.) Chapman: Aaagh! (dies.) Sgt.: Now, I eat the banana. (Does so.) Palin: You shot him! Jones: He's dead! Idle: He's completely dead! Sgt.: I have now eaten the banana. The deceased, Mr Apricot, is now 'elpless. Palin: You shot him. You shot him dead. Sgt.: Well, he was attacking me with a banana. Jones: But you told him to. Sgt.: Look, I'm only doing me job. I have to show you how to defend yourselves against fresh fruit. classic Python !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hbkbkk Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 According to the news, I heard that kid was abused and not accepted from their friends...with a lot of pressure over him me too, look for me in your next TF gathering.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haiku_newyork Posted April 18, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 Dude you must be getting high on Banana's again or something! I'm neither Racist or hung up on Penis size! As I stated before this VT mass murderer could have been any race! He was a wacko for sure, a definite stalker and troubled dude. I just mentioned in the title he was South Korean of origin because I happen to work in Korea.... End of story.... This guy was just a loser nutcase! He could have just as easily been a white loser nutcase, black loser nutcase, or whatever loser nutcase! In this case he was an Korean loser nutcase.... End of that...My comment about him having a small penis was not an Asian stab, but just saying that anybody that would do something like this must be hung like a cricket.... Anyone with a problem with this can f*ck off...... u seem to be the guy with most of the problems ... racist and hung up on penis size !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beej Posted April 18, 2007 Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 Mother f*cker,The Virginia Tech killer was a South Korean National Cho Seung Hui Age 23 English Major Probably had an extremely SMALL PENIS What the f*ck In the summer of 1950, in the first weeks of the Korean War, U.S. military forces opened fire on a group of South Korean civilian refugees at a railroad trestle in a place called No Gun Ri. Survivors estimate that up to four hundred died, mostly women and children. Was this not just in the news as of late??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haiku_newyork Posted April 18, 2007 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2007 Your right about this, but why did it happen? I'm sure they did not intend to kill the South Koreans.... Mother f*cker,The Virginia Tech killer was a South Korean National Cho Seung Hui Age 23 English Major Probably had an extremely SMALL PENIS What the f*ck In the summer of 1950, in the first weeks of the Korean War, U.S. military forces opened fire on a group of South Korean civilian refugees at a railroad trestle in a place called No Gun Ri. Survivors estimate that up to four hundred died, mostly women and children. Was this not just in the news as of late??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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