OutOfOrder Posted March 5, 2005 Report Share Posted March 5, 2005 :evil: :evil: :evil: I don't roam around other website much... actually - almost not at all! Luckily some friend did and saw my pic on another site!! (the one at tf party at mystique) ... C R e e P Y!!!!!!!! The other time a tf member (total stranger) msg me and told me about it. - That's all considerbly lucky that someone spot u and told u so u can go sort it out. But imagine, if you're not lucky enough and no one informed you - you'd be lending your identity without your knowledge AT ALL! that's F*freaky!!! This is why i totally agree with robbie about the third party pic. thread he posted earlier. The person who stole my pic, though - is surely a Tf member also... 'Cus another girl on TF, her picture was stolen too and the pics were posted on the same page. I even think the poster mistaken ME for this other girl! (idiot) ... not sure though, that's just what i think. Anyways, I'd be thankful if any of you see any of my pictures floating around other websites... PLEASE tell me! The only site I have my pics posted is on TF and no where else!! (Otherwise, on other ppls party photo album...which i've said/asked/threatened/ too many times not to post my pics but some ppl still do.)) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbyboy112003 Posted March 5, 2005 Report Share Posted March 5, 2005 Yeah, this is a pain in the butt. Me and Charlie just had this conversation in another thread. This is one of many reasons why many times a picture gets rejected in TF by Admin. Well Pam, look at the bright side...er, maybe there isn't one? Sorry cause I wanted to cheer you up krup...I failed miserably ....I'll try again later Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uarewotueat Posted March 5, 2005 Report Share Posted March 5, 2005 well mystique pics are on my website too spammy :twisted: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uarewotueat Posted March 6, 2005 Report Share Posted March 6, 2005 i'll post the bad pics of u if yo dont quit yo biatchin u know i can do worse pics then that :twisted: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedTriple Posted March 6, 2005 Report Share Posted March 6, 2005 Kip.. .yeah yeah yeah post the bad pics of Pam lol :twisted: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutOfOrder Posted March 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 6, 2005 DON'T TRY TO START A FIGHT, KIP IT'S NOT ALWAYS ABOUT YOU. NO NEED TO GET YOUR ASS BURNT THAT EASILY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uarewotueat Posted March 6, 2005 Report Share Posted March 6, 2005 awwww come on, dont be like that spammy, lighten up! :twisted: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 In fact every photograph on a page can be indexed by google unless it is stated in the robots.txt file of a site not to index pictures or when the site is limited by passwords for example.... However if you give a caption or alt text to a picture, let's say 'pretty thai girl in club'... and you would search google images... everybody could end up looking at only that picture and not seeing or caring about the disclaimers on the website. That's the danger of the internet indeed... Once you're on the internet... people can do all kinds of freaky things. If someone sees my picture on the side of a bus... let me know and share in damages from the lawsuit ;-)... You said there were 3 pictures on that kapook site, right? one of us in mystique, one of alisa, what was the third one? Also from mystique? ... All from the same batch? I mean.. Where were they taken from... the tf website or an external site that people us to post TF pictures.... might yield a clue. I don't know much about kapook (can't read thai yet... sorry) but if it's user based you might be able to get userdata... Sherlock out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laurence Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 Couln't resist so I did try the ''pretty thai girl in club' search over Google image... There is only one image and its from Iron Ladies - The Movie - Which is a bunch of katoey kicking ass of other student volley ball players..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutOfOrder Posted March 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 well, chris... hmm ... first pic was a girl - not sure if its alisa ... second pic - u and me third pic - a group photo of alisa's and her friends (not at mystique) 4th pic - again, a group photo of alisa's and her friends ( & not at mystique) 5th pic was the same pic as the 1st pic - pic at mystique identifies that - that post was recent. the topic headline of that page said "for sale" ... "Call Pang at 0X XXX-XXXX" which Pang is Alisa's nickname. clear enuff yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutOfOrder Posted March 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 BTW i didnt make a fuss about that pic of me & u - cus i didnt remember having a pic taken with ya so therefore never told/ask you or mendez not to post it...! (still dont remember when what how...) so u dont relate to the : (Otherwise, on other ppls party photo album...which i've said/asked/threatened/ too many times not to post my pics but some ppl still do.)) part of my post. oh, and that site contains various articles basically from A-Z. That pic.post - though, is similar to face-pix kinda thing... not that i really know what face-pix kinda thing really is like.... lol >> now - catch the staker! << Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
music Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 Pam, somebody lifting your pics from TF and posting them elsewhere is really lame, I agree, but as long as the person isn't profiting from this theft or hurting your reputation, there's not too much you can do. But... ...you might want to try watermarking your images with a copyright notice. Then you can ask a conscientious site owner who MAY ask the poster to take them down. Some site owners get nervous because the copyright notice looks kinda official. You may need to use your real name, but I suggest you register a domain, gothprincess.com (or whatever) and place 'Copyright *2005 gothprincess.com All Rights Reserved' (substitute a copyright symbol for the asterisk) at the bottom edge of each and every pic you post anywhere. It's a hassle and it won't prevent people from lifting your images for private use (the creepy part) but it'll deter those thinking of flogging them to commercial sites (the ugly part). You can register a domain from Yahoo.com starting at $4.95US per year. Anyway I'm not entirely sure whether you can use registered domain names in copyright notices. You may have to use your real name. Maybe the site admin can chip in here. Or anybody else got a clue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tallboyno1 Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 So who has the copyright then, Pam or Thailandfriends? I have not read the agreement of using this site yet but maybe its Thailandfriends owned material and photos or maybe its a a shared ownership deal?... :roll: To get some copyrights it should be possible to connect it with a domain name that have a juridical binding person to it. The problem is how to get it work practically if you want to execute it to claim your rights somewhere to someone on the globe somehow. Just dont forget to pay your yearly admin cost for your domainname and web hosting then... Pam just write to the site owner. Its my tip for quick action! or trace the guy.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutOfOrder Posted March 8, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 well, I'm not THAT bothered - cos i didnt think the target was on me. At first i thought the poster mistaken me for alisa or soemthing since the whole post seemed to be targeting on alisa. But after reading Chrisghent's journal - it would have been co-incidentally weird for a pic of three non-related TF members to be posted by some total stranger on some other site. This would mean that THAT certain stranger must be a TF member too. I only posted this thread cus - as i said, I dont go roaming other websites and just asking you guys that if u run into my pics somewhere else 9and recognize it) it would be kind to msg me and tell. :? As for me, i just can't really see how I am related to this whole issue at all (Apart from being an ass skank...which may disturb some ppl...) ~ Not that i think someone would bother to be bothered to put much concern in my behavior anyway... Plus, I already clarified it precisely on my profile! :roll: 8) Yes, MUSIC... I just discovered a great way to copyright your pics - You can register a photograpy/photographer/photographic ((whatever it's called!!)) site - where u can post your photographic works for ppl to comment on - once posted - you automatically get a copyright protection! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 You're right on that pam. If they were all from an external website like where that particular picture is on, it might have been an outsider but this is an inside job because of the different photographs.... Having said that.. the poster must know alisa better than most of us. I know she's hell of a dancer and a good friend but I did not even know her nickname is pang.... and I don't see it listed on her profile... Somehow I also keep thinking about the gals getting their phone stolen awhile ago. Can this be related? As for the copyright protection. You can indeed watermark it in Photoshop with a visible or even an invisible watermark (digimarc). The latter is pricey I believe but it's an option. No matter if they just copy your picture and resize it, cut only a piece out of it or resite it to fit on a bus ... if you take a picture of it and load it back into photoshop it should display your hidden watermark information just as copyright details. Alisa, what's your take on this? Any suspects? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falangboy Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 Actually, if the person is using them as an advertisement you have a case to sue for privacy violations. I don't believe the photos posted here are for public use (I'm not sure about that though). If someone is using your image to solicit sales without your concent they are stealing money from you. And models can make a lot of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alisa Posted March 10, 2005 Report Share Posted March 10, 2005 well, chris...hmm ... first pic was a girl - not sure if its alisa ... second pic - u and me third pic - a group photo of alisa's and her friends (not at mystique) 4th pic - again, a group photo of alisa's and her friends ( & not at mystique) 5th pic was the same pic as the 1st pic - pic at mystique identifies that - that post was recent. the topic headline of that page said "for sale" ... "Call Pang at 0X XXX-XXXX" which Pang is Alisa's nickname. clear enuff yet? WHAT??? WHAT??? WHAT??? Pam!?!? :shock: Am I getting to this forum too late to missed something? Yes, Pang is my nick name and Alisa is my real name... but swear to god I never put any of my pics outside TF (ecxept my own photo album which only an authorized friend can see ) and never put my nick name even on Tf so nobody know my nickname except a very close friend!!! :evil: But you just said there're pics of me in other web site and said call Pang at xxx-xxxx???? That's F**FREAKY for me, Pam! You gotta help me....how can I see that page??? I've checked the link you gave me but it didn't work...Is that kapook page? You gotta help me Pam...surely I'll inform this to the POLICE if its like what you said. That's so offenced!!! Gotta tell my father about that too....well, not that i'm a baby but he's a police so he might know someone who can help us with this Pam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutOfOrder Posted March 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2005 i know your not responsible for it Alisy!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutOfOrder Posted March 10, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 10, 2005 S O m T A M C H A R L I E u dont know wtf what its like... so shut the f* up. ((this is a short quick message from :tripleO, Alisa, and Babyoiy & Winny_peepo)) if u (sontamwhatever) got a problem with this comment.... post your prob. to OutOfOrder. the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted March 10, 2005 Report Share Posted March 10, 2005 Actually, if the person is using them as an advertisement you have a case to sue for privacy violations. I don't believe the photos posted here are for public use (I'm not sure about that though). If someone is using your image to solicit sales without your concent they are stealing money from you. And models can make a lot of money. .....sure if you got a lot of time and a deep wallet.The reality for most mortals is that you're stuffed.Moral of story:if you are concerned about pix being spread on web..dont post them in the first place . the *other* moral of the story, if someone posts your pic without your permission, call ant'ny, crazy mikey, and deaf and dumb joey, three friendly gentlemen who are willing to negotiate on your behalf, and work a LOT faster than lawyers... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted March 10, 2005 Report Share Posted March 10, 2005 PS as soon as you CREATE an image you own the copyright, the paperwork is a formality. if you create an image with people in it, and didnt get them to sign MODEL RELEASES, they can give you **** fits if you try to use it commercially. if they use your picture without permission, to imply something false about your character, then you have a LOT more options if and when you sue them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OutOfOrder Posted March 11, 2005 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 thanks folks we've already started our detective mission, he he... looks like this can be an exciting task! teach those hopeless stalker some lesson - hi hi hi. *back to my witch craft project* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alisa Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 Having said that.. the poster must know alisa better than most of us. I know she's hell of a dancer and a good friend but I did not even know her nickname is pang.... and I don't see it listed on her profile... Somehow I also keep thinking about the gals getting their phone stolen awhile ago. Can this be related?? That's the scary thing for me, Christ! Most of the people know me as Alisa, it's my real name. Only a few people in Tf know my nick name "Pang" Especially my farang friends never know about it. But it doesn't mean that he or she could be the one who know me more than you guys as most of Thai friends know my nick name because Thai people call each other by nick name. So that person might not be the one who know me well but I'm sure that he or she is Thai!!! I don't think there're something about my phone had been stolen. I had cancelled the previous sim card and just get the new sim card with the same number from my phone company....so now I still using the same number. And there're no strange call to my phone at all so I don't think it's my number he or she put in there. I never seen that page but as Pam told me...The pics is me, the name is my nick name but the phone number is not mine. I can put that in 2 case... - Someone hate me very much and want to make a bad joke about me! As he or she put "SALE" in that page so that person want to make me look like those working girl!!! I don't give a **** about this case that much as all the people I care...my friends and family. If they happen to see that page, they know me and understand that it's not true at all. They will know that I never gonna do thing like that. But think about those people who don't know me that much...like a friend of my father :shock: !!! They will be misunderstand about me if they happened to see that page! And the fact that that website is quite popular among Thai people so I really have no idea how many people have seen that page. :evil: - Those scammer! This could be serious case as I've seen case like this on the TV and newspaper before. They put the pic of the girl and tried to convince the guy who want to buy her to transfer the money to their account. But then the girl never shown up! So the guys ran to the police and want the police to arrest that girl on the pic!!! But the police can track down the IP address and found out that the girl have nothing to involve with that and the person who did it...was a guy! I'm not scare of this as I knew that if it's the case like this. Then the police can check that it's not me who did that. But still I don't wanna involve with that police things. I've talked to my Dad about this as he's a police and he gave me the number of his friend who's in Thai FBI department. I've talk to this person and he told me to go see him on Monday. Let's see what they can do about this. Alisa, what's your take on this? Any suspects? No, not at all, Christ!!! It's difficult for me to figure out any people who hate me. I couldn't figure out even one name! Me and Pam tried to do that last night....she said it might be someone who jealous me! But still I couldn't be able to figure it out :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbie36 Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 There is a lot of hypocrisy and opaque logic in this thread. (1) First of all forget all the copyright crap. I don?t give a toss what the copyright laws are in any particular country, it is cyberspace and you had better get used to it. You can put a watermark or you can sue. Great. Who says the country that the person who posted it, or the server who published it, actually recognizes any copyright law? (Incidentally it is actually a very moot point whether the server actually published it or whether it is the person who posted it.) (2) So there is no international law that is going to protect anyone here. So we should consider what is actually right or wrong in this argument. Well as I see it, as soon as you publish a pic of yourself on the internet it becomes public property ? it is no longer ?my pic? but the internets pic. I don?t know the specifics in Pam?s case but if someone has lifted a pic of her profile and published it elsewhere I have no sympathy. As ?somtamcharlie? suggests if you don?t like it, simply don?t publish it. You see, at least if it is taken from Pam?s profile she has control of ?WHAT? is published even if she has no control over ?WHERE? it is published. (3) To me the REAL CRIME is genuine 3rd party photos ? like say, a picture of Pam buying condoms at a 7/11 with no make up on at 3.00am in the morning. Pretty ******* scary (Pam, I have no intention of publishing it). To be honest, I don?t even think that Pam is a good example. You see by publishing her pictures on the web at TF it can be argued that SHE has become PUBLIC PROPERTY. A bit like ?Babyoiy? (I chose you because Pam cites you in one of her posts) feels it is fine to publish pictures of Tony Blair and Angelina Jolie?s photos in her profile (I assume without their permission). (4) By genuine 3rd party photos, I mean pics of people who don?t publish their pics on the internet and wish to protect their own privacy. Of course, TF seems to me the worst place to be whinging about this sort of thing because they will publish a picture of anyone at anytime if they so please. TF presumably does that because it knows that nobody has any recourse against them. So this is how I see it. If someone has lifted Pam?s pic off TF she really has no right to complain. By publishing it, it became public property. BUT it cant be right if someone took a photo of her in a private moment and then published it on the internet ? that is an invasion of privacy. Ultimately there is nothing she can do about it but still that doesn?t make it right. If you feel strongly enough about this you should perhaps boycott TF. I don?t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babyoiy Posted March 11, 2005 Report Share Posted March 11, 2005 alrite... out of topic just a bit.. :arrow: I have been thinking about pic of Tony Blair and AJ few times already. As the Admin been rejected pic of AJ 3 times .. and its been approved from Admin Will not Admin Tom.. I dont know the reason that pic of AJ has been rejected,( its same pic that showing on my profile now.) I thought it all about copyright.. but as I have seen other's TF profile got pics of hollywood stars as well.. so I really dont know what is the rule to reject or approve.. Well I think its not right to post their pics on my profile.. So for the right thing and avoid from any problem I gonna update pic of myself instead.. time to say g'bye my AJ.. Well pic of Tony Blair.. I like it coz it showing love of father & kid.. lovely for sure.. well time to take it off and make thing right in any case. by the way I love reading ur post Robbie :wink: :arrow: Back to the topic... We assumed it was someone who jeolous Alisa.. well as Chris said he didnt even know ur nickname 'pang' so.. we gotta sort out another point then.. Let us know whenever the webmaster give u any info... they got pics of u from Mendez's album and from ur profile.. its possible to be tf member.. well its not me :twisted: Pang! U too hot... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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