WTF?--- News hot off the press that makes you say--- WTF?

[CiaranM]

But when you dress up like Hitler, Nazis, or tell people that Hitler isn't dead . . . well, WTF were you thinking?

at a wild stab in the dark .... i'd guess the fuckwits weren't thinking at all !!!!

[simply_oriental]

Oh. My. God.

They don't teach any world history, or did they just skip over that part? Jeebus.

"Hitler yang mai die."

Yes we have but thy didn't taught us all the details but the important thing such as the Genocide like which countries were victim and how many peoples dead,another such as Who lost in the first and the second world war and what' the reason sort of.About the wars they taught us a lots also example they taught us about the first and second war and Vietnam war ,we know lots about the war in the history but the funny thing was when they made the examination test for the student they always asked which years were this war that war happened..i had tried to remember which years since i was a student...

The girls and fellow whom dress like Nazi ..She's even didn't care what's happened about the Jews at that time,May be they are teenager and wanted to do what they wanted to do...which was the very bad idea..The director of school should do more than formal apologized.

Most of Thai peoples they don't interested much about Hitler's story but i do..And i always sad when i watched or read about how he did to Jews and others peoples in second war esp.at auschwitz ...I had my tears when i watched the film..

I always saw white -black peoples did some thing about Nazi dress up like Nazi or some have Nazi rap song or whatsoever i just don't like it but not that much same Thais peoples did which is unusual and horrible thing to do..

[CiaranM]

just a couple of interesting points .... the paper the article was lifted from is/was nicknamed "the daily heil" due to it's support for the facists during the 1930's !!!! and staff from the daily heil dressed as nazis at a staff party in the 1990's ... pot kettle i guess !!!

[simply_oriental]

just a couple of interesting points .... the paper the article was lifted from is/was nicknamed "the daily heil" due to it's support for the facists during the 1930's !!!! and staff from the daily heil dressed as nazis at a staff party in the 1990's ... pot kettle i guess !!!

The peoples whom support the facists they have no heart..they cruel ,disgusting and they are not deserve to be a human been.

[simply_oriental]

Will you sleep like these peoples?

[Stramash]

Will you sleep like these peoples?

**** that!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Admin_2]

Will you sleep like these peoples?

I did that about 15 years ago on a 2 night, 3 day climb. The best part was taking a shit and trying to watch it fall for the 10 seconds that it was visible. I smoked a joint about 3/4 of the way up on the last night and thought it was funny how "high" I was.

[kaunitz]

I get it when Hindu or Buddhists use the swastika since the Nazis actually stole it from them but, uhm . . .

Sorry but the Swastika was not stolen from Hindus or Buddhists, the name "Swastika" derives from Asia (Sanskrit) but not the symbol itself.. The Swastika is an old symbol mainly known from Asia and Europe, but also from Africa and Cental America.

"When Hitler created a flag for the Nazi Party, he sought to incorporate both the swastika and "those revered colors expressive of our homage to the glorious past and which once brought so much honor to the German nation." (Red, white, and black were the colors of the flag of the old German Empire.) He also stated: "As National Socialists, we see our program in our flag. In red, we see the social idea of the movement; in white, the nationalistic idea; in the swastika, the mission of the struggle for the victory of the Aryan man, and, by the same token, the victory of the idea of creative work."^[61]
The swastika was also understood as "the symbol of the creating, acting life" (das Symbol des schaffenden, wirkenden Lebens) and as "race emblem of Germanism" (Rasseabzeichen des Germanentums). (English Wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika )

[funky_house]

BANGKOK — Bangkok governor MR Sukhumbhand Paribatra found himself at the center of yet another corruption controversy this week when it was revealed that as many as 40% of the capital city’s police force were in fact fake.The bogus police officers were discovered in an undercover investigation by newspaper Matichon, whose journalists secretly filmed interactions with police officers at road checkpoints and on the street. Their investigations revealed that a large percentage of Bangkok’s Metropolitan Police were actually just regular men who had no actual law-enforcement training or even awareness of the what the city laws were.

Further investigation revealed that as many as four out of every 10 new police officers commissioned to work in the capital had in fact been hired directly from the general population and given a uniform, with instructions on how to collect bribes and return a certain percentage of those bribes back to their supervisors.

The governor, already facing possible censure by the governing Pheu Thai party for using hundreds of dummy surveillance cameras throughout the city, defended the use of dummy police as “effective and economical.”

“The training of a real police officer is expensive and time-consuming,” he explained at a press conference. “With recent budget cuts, it became necessary to find creative ways to maintain a strong law-enforcement presence while not running the department into deficit.”

Sukhumband cited positive urban crime statistics as proof that dummy police officers acted as a deterrent against crime. Additionally, he stressed that only real police officers were used in actual investigations of major crimes such as murder and robbery.

“When Bangkok’s citizens truly need an actual cop, we provide one,” he said.

However, Deputy OAG secretary-general Phisit Leelachirophas announced that there would be a full investigation into the dummy police operations to see if there was any corruption involved in the procurement of the fake police.

“We will check the budget records carefully to make sure that no laws were broken,” he said. “We will also look into the system of bribe collection and kickbacks to make sure that everything was done transparently.”

source - http://notthenation....olice-officers/

Fake police collecting bribes for real police. LOL

[funky_house]

Not if I was prone to sleepwalking. That last one with the double bed is just so wrong. LOL

[Admin_2]

“The training of a real police officer is expensive and time-consuming,”

“When Bangkok’s citizens truly need an actual cop, we provide one,” he said.

But when we just want to collect bribes, hey, anyone can do that!

Funny yet sad.

[FarangFarang]

The Nazi story is starting to hit the international press. Just saw something on CNN about it. Other international news organizations running with it as well.

[simply_oriental]

I did that about 15 years ago on a 2 night, 3 day climb. The best part was taking a **** and trying to watch it fall for the 10 seconds that it was visible. I smoked a joint about 3/4 of the way up on the last night and thought it was funny how "high" I was.

I will never sleep on that..You were so cool can did that na..

[simply_oriental]

BANGKOK — Bangkok governor MR Sukhumbhand Paribatra found himself at the center of yet another corruption controversy this week when it was revealed that as many as 40% of the capital city’s police force were in fact fake.The bogus police officers were discovered in an undercover investigation by newspaper Matichon, whose journalists secretly filmed interactions with police officers at road checkpoints and on the street. Their investigations revealed that a large percentage of Bangkok’s Metropolitan Police were actually just regular men who had no actual law-enforcement training or even awareness of the what the city laws were.

Further investigation revealed that as many as four out of every 10 new police officers commissioned to work in the capital had in fact been hired directly from the general population and given a uniform, with instructions on how to collect bribes and return a certain percentage of those bribes back to their supervisors.

The governor, already facing possible censure by the governing Pheu Thai party for using hundreds of dummy surveillance cameras throughout the city, defended the use of dummy police as “effective and economical.â€

“The training of a real police officer is expensive and time-consuming,†he explained at a press conference. “With recent budget cuts, it became necessary to find creative ways to maintain a strong law-enforcement presence while not running the department into deficit.â€

Sukhumband cited positive urban crime statistics as proof that dummy police officers acted as a deterrent against crime. Additionally, he stressed that only real police officers were used in actual investigations of major crimes such as murder and robbery.

“When Bangkok’s citizens truly need an actual cop, we provide one,†he said.

However, Deputy OAG secretary-general Phisit Leelachirophas announced that there would be a full investigation into the dummy police operations to see if there was any corruption involved in the procurement of the fake police.

“We will check the budget records carefully to make sure that no laws were broken,†he said. “We will also look into the system of bribe collection and kickbacks to make sure that everything was done transparently.â€

source - http://notthenation....olice-officers/

Fake police collecting bribes for real police. LOL

That dummy police officers definitely can't deterrent against serious crime...How?..No Way! But it can make a fast driver like me slow down so many times..it's might can reduce road accidents that's all.

[kaunitz]

That dummy police officers definitely can't deterrent against serious crime...How?..No Way! But it can make a fast driver like me slow down so many times..it's might can reduce road accidents that's all.

But the main thing is that they stop drivers for nothing and collect bribes. As happened to me and they said that I should not change lanes twice. No law forbids that as long as I - what I did (honestly!) - check the mirror and set the indicator. The "officer" also was not able to explain what's wrong (my wife was with me) but kept on saying that changing lanes twice is not good.

[funky_house]

Two girls have been sentenced for a plot to kill their 89-year-old grandfather in order to obtain money.

The man was attacked by his adopted daughter, 49, her daughters aged 16 and 14, her son, 19, and his girlfriend, 17, near Winchester.

At Winchester Crown Court, the 16-year-old got 26-months' detention while the 14-year-old received a two-year youth rehabilitation order.

The 17-year-old girl involved was given three years' detention.

The victim's daughter is serving a 17-year jail sentence and her son is already in a young offenders institution.

Hit with bricks

None of the defendants, from Eastleigh, can be named because of legal restrictions.

The elderly victim, who suffered from dementia, lived with his wife at a bungalow in a village near Winchester, where he was attacked on 15 November last year.

Det Sgt Bryan Carter: "The mother and the son were the driving force behind the offences"

During the six-week trial, the jury was told the man was lured outside his home by his daughter pretending to have fallen over.

He then was knocked to the ground by the son and hit with bricks by the two young girls.

He survived with cuts and bruises and was able to tell paramedics - called by his daughter - that he had been hit.

The family had also been running a campaign to try to scare the man to death by smashing a window at his home and even cutting the fuel line of his car in a bid to make it explode.

'Final act'

The prosecution said the attack was the final act to kill him for his money even though he had generously given cash for cars and horses for the family, which had been squandered.

In the weeks before, some family members researched how to kill him on the internet with Google searches such as "1,000 ways to die", "poisonous toadstools" and "easiest way to kill an old person".

The girls sobbed as their sentences were handed down.

The 89-year-old survived the attack but was left with a number of cuts and bruises

Mr Justice Foskett described the three girls as "vulnerable" and under the influence of the mother, adding that they had acted out of "fear" of her.

He concluded by saying to the younger sister: "I express the hope that arrangements can be made for you and [the older sister] to maintain contact.

"You and she will probably need each other even more in the longer term than at present."

Sentencing the two adults last month, the judge called the attack "despicable and inhuman".

He said the plot and the attempts to kill the pensioner "will defy belief in the minds of any right-thinking person".

Four of the group were found guilty of conspiracy to murder at an earlier hearing, while the youngest girl was acquitted of that charge but convicted of wounding with intent.

The grandson is serving an indeterminate sentence.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-15107352

[kaunitz]

Two girls have been sentenced for a plot to kill their 89-year-old grandfather in order to obtain money.

A very sad story! But at least, they got sentenced. Only three months ago, I had to learn that a good friend of mine was killed by his wife allegedly in a dispute over selling or buying a patch of land - in Thailand (Udon Thani Province). As I heard, the wife is on bail. Even if she gets convicted, the land (my friend was running and extending a water buffalo, agrar wood, eucalyptus, turkey and fish farm - together with her and as he always highlighted to the benefit of their kids and the wife's family) most probably belongs to her resp. the family. Well, this guy "only" has a mother in Austria but how come that in Thailand, if you kill someone, especially a farang, your family still will benefit? Worse even is that they had two kids, the elder one twelve years old, so they have been together at least for 15 years or so....

[Admin_2]

A very sad story! But at least, they got sentenced. Only three months ago, I had to learn that a good friend of mine was killed by his wife allegedly in a dispute over selling or buying a patch of land - in Thailand (Udon Thani Province). As I heard, the wife is on bail. Even if she gets convicted, the land (my friend was running and extending a water buffalo, agrar wood, eucalyptus, turkey and fish farm - together with her and as he always highlighted to the benefit of their kids and the wife's family) most probably belongs to her resp. the family. Well, this guy "only" has a mother in Austria but how come that in Thailand, if you kill someone, especially a farang, your family still will benefit? Worse even is that they had two kids, the elder one twelve years old, so they have been together at least for 15 years or so....

Don't you know? Whenever water buffalo are involved, the farang always loses.

[simply_oriental]

Two girls have been sentenced for a plot to kill their 89-year-old grandfather in order to obtain money.

The man was attacked by his adopted daughter, 49, her daughters aged 16 and 14, her son, 19, and his girlfriend, 17, near Winchester.

At Winchester Crown Court, the 16-year-old got 26-months' detention while the 14-year-old received a two-year youth rehabilitation order.

The 17-year-old girl involved was given three years' detention.

The victim's daughter is serving a 17-year jail sentence and her son is already in a young offenders institution.

Hit with bricks

None of the defendants, from Eastleigh, can be named because of legal restrictions.

The elderly victim, who suffered from dementia, lived with his wife at a bungalow in a village near Winchester, where he was attacked on 15 November last year.

Det Sgt Bryan Carter: "The mother and the son were the driving force behind the offences"

During the six-week trial, the jury was told the man was lured outside his home by his daughter pretending to have fallen over.

He then was knocked to the ground by the son and hit with bricks by the two young girls.

He survived with cuts and bruises and was able to tell paramedics - called by his daughter - that he had been hit.

The family had also been running a campaign to try to scare the man to death by smashing a window at his home and even cutting the fuel line of his car in a bid to make it explode.

'Final act'

The prosecution said the attack was the final act to kill him for his money even though he had generously given cash for cars and horses for the family, which had been squandered.

In the weeks before, some family members researched how to kill him on the internet with Google searches such as "1,000 ways to die", "poisonous toadstools" and "easiest way to kill an old person".

The girls sobbed as their sentences were handed down.

The 89-year-old survived the attack but was left with a number of cuts and bruises

Mr Justice Foskett described the three girls as "vulnerable" and under the influence of the mother, adding that they had acted out of "fear" of her.

He concluded by saying to the younger sister: "I express the hope that arrangements can be made for you and [the older sister] to maintain contact.

"You and she will probably need each other even more in the longer term than at present."

Sentencing the two adults last month, the judge called the attack "despicable and inhuman".

He said the plot and the attempts to kill the pensioner "will defy belief in the minds of any right-thinking person".

Four of the group were found guilty of conspiracy to murder at an earlier hearing, while the youngest girl was acquitted of that charge but convicted of wounding with intent.

The grandson is serving an indeterminate sentence.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-15107352

American Law always protected the teenager when they make serious crime..But some of them they got punished as same as the adult also.The world is more cruel every day..I can't imagine whom could do that for the member of their family..The cases of the money are often happened ..it's sad to hear..

[CiaranM]

Don't you know? Whenever water buffalo are involved, the farang always loses.

why farang always disrespect thai culture !!!!

[simply_oriental]

why farang always disrespect thai culture !!!!

Esp. Farang whom married with Thais..Should they understand the culture more than a single ?Farang not always lost i guess.

[FarangFarang]

They just don't get any better than this.

BTW, I think Kennon used the same excuse for ditching Rob and I one night.

[FarangFarang]

Normally, we don't like to share stories this depressing: The AP reports that a New York man has been sentenced to prison for trying to hire someone to run down his ex-girlfriend, who he abused. But the AP also reports on a tidbit too bizarre not to pass along: Clyde Gardner's original murderous plan. His idea was to: Kill a bear. Then skin it. Then don the pelt and wait for his ex to take out her garbage. He'd then attack her, using the bear's claws to maul her to death. And, to ensure he got away scot-free, he'd also wear the bear's paws on his feet, thereby avoiding leaving any human footprints.

Shockingly, he abandoned that plan. Unfortunately, his plotting didn't end there. The 57-year-old former demolition derby driver allegedly then asked a friend to kill his ex in a car crash, and gave the friend instructions on how to do it. As so often happens in these cases, the friend decided to go to the cops instead of running the woman down. Gardner was sentenced to five to 15 years in prison.

http://www.newser.com/story/129855/man-concocts-worst-murder-scheme-ever.html?utm_medium=fark&utm_campaign=pop

[FarangFarang]

Nazism in our brainwashed upbringing

Published: 29/09/2011 at 12:00 AM

Newspaper section: News

Who is not shocked to see teenage girl students happily dressing up in full Nazi regalia, outfitting themselves as Adolf Hitler and SS Guards to celebrate their Sports Day _ totally unaware that they were also celebrating the world's murderers who killed six million Jews in a state-sponsored ethnic cleansing during World War Two?

What were the girls thinking?

What were their teachers thinking?

The news reports and photos on the Nazi-themed parade of the students at Sacred Heart School in Chiang Mai has shocked and angered many, and rightly so.

Various embassies have tendered protests, including the Simon Wiesenthal Centre, an international Jewish human rights group. The school, obviously shocked by the international outrage, quickly offered deep apologies, and rightly so.

According to the school, the girls had no ill intentions at all. They were just completely unaware of the sensitivity, or lack of it, involved.

That I believe.

The school also said no teachers knew beforehand of the Nazi parade theme because it has been a tradition for the students to keep it a secret until the parade day.

That I don't believe at all.

Photos on the internet showed the school buildings decorated with huge Swastika flags and a three-storey-high wall-hanging in fiery red depicting Hitler and his look-alike caricatures doing the "Sieg Heil" salutes, with the word "Nazism" splashed big and bold on it.

Putting all this paraphernalia in place needed prior preparation. How could the school administrators and teachers not know about this? Why then pass the buck to the kids alone?

According to news reports, when a group of expat parents and teachers conveyed their shock and dismay to the school, they were stunned to learn that the Thai teachers did not see how the Nazi parade theme was offensive.

With red as the theme colour, some have suggested a conspiracy theory that the parade might be politically motivated to warn against what was to come with the return of Thaksin Shinawatra.

Conspiracy or not, the insensitivity of the chosen theme is glaring.

How did this apathy come about?

Is it a matter of ignorance, which can be fixed by some history classes on the Holocaust? Or is the problem deeper than that?

What happened at Sacred Heart School is beyond the poor quality of our history classes.

To start with, I don't think the adults who knew about the Nazi-themed parade, are ignorant about the Holocaust. It is just that they do not realise the danger of militarism and fascism. Nor can they feel the pain of its victims.

Not that they are unkind. But for people who have grown up in a country where toddlers are ordered to turn left and right like soldiers since kindergarten, while the male high school students are forced to cut their hair like the Marines _ and where a coup d'etat is a common occurrence _ many have simply come to accept militarism as part of life.

The political indoctrination by the education system to foster ultra-nationalism based on the supremacy of the Thai race also does not help. It makes people believe that Thailand is a racially homogenous country of ethnic Thais, which is false. Meanwhile, the military is over-glorified as defender of the Thais. Any violence against "the other" is then justified.

This is why mainstream Buddhist Thai society cannot empathise with the suffering of the Malay Muslims in the deep South, even though nearly 5,000 people have been killed.

It is also why the systematic abuse of the highlanders and migrant workers has failed to stir public outrage against ethnic discrimination, thus allowing the wrongdoing to continue.

When we cannot feel the pain of the victims of ethnic violence close to home, how can we feel for people so far away in place and time?

Instead of blaming the Sacred Heart students and teachers, we should thank them for mirroring our society's deep militarism and lack of empathy.

If we do not like what we see, then we should do something to end the systematic brainwashing that fills us with heartlessness.

http://www.bangkokpost.com/opinion/opinion/258781/nazism-in-our-brainwashed-upbringing

A follow up to the Hitler story

http://www.thailandfriends.com/showthread.php/43591-WTF-News-hot-off-the-press-that-makes-you-say-WTF?p=1053545&viewfull=1#post1053545

Some cringe-worthy remarks made by the author. Especially cutting:

The political indoctrination by the education system to foster ultra-nationalism based on the supremacy of the Thai race also does not help. It makes people believe that Thailand is a racially homogenous country of ethnic Thais, which is false. Meanwhile, the military is over-glorified as defender of the Thais. Any violence against "the other" is then justified.

Also, some interesting comments in the thread below the story. For instance, if you look at the uniform being worn by the girl in the photo of the original Bangkok Post story it is very obvious this is an elaborate costume. This isn't something that was thrown together at home. Who supplied the uniforms?

[SKYWARRIOR]

Maybe all the Nazis are not in So America? They relocated like rats from a sinking ship b4 the Nazi regime folded. Hate to think a few could of landed in Thailand.