Does anyone know how difficult it is for a person who already got rejected twice when asking a visa to the U.K. and the Netherlands (few years ago just cos she quit her job to travel for few months so there was no work letter and an invitation letter to guarantee that she would be coming back - to the embassy it doesnt matter how much you have but you gotta be able to prove to the embassy that you'd be coming back to Thailand) to ask for another visa to Australia or any country in Europe? I heard that a lot of people, mainly girls, who get rejected when asking for a visa to Europe or the U.S. have to make a new passport in order to erase all bad visa rejection history. Two of my girl friends who used to grow up and live in the U.S. for years got rejected when asking for the U.S. visa when they moved back to Thailand and wanted to go back to the U.S. to visit friends and travel. They both got a new passport and prepared everything the U.S. embassy needed. That's when/how their visa was approved.So what would u reckon? Get a new passport or use the old passport, and make sure all documents needed by the embassy are well-prepared? Any similar story to share?

Sorry don't know krap about visa's, but I hope everything turns out well.

Even if it didn't make any difference, it might be better to get a new passport just to make sure.

Those embassy staff are only human, and seeing a rejection might just swing a 50/50 decision the wrong way.

If you're coming to Europe, wait a while. Its bloody freezing cold at the moment. :-)

I think it's a good idea to get a new passport. Try again with a clean slate. Good luck and hope it all works out.

In the UK, it has become so much difficult for visa approval, so getting a new passport will probaly sort that out though. Having said that, I need to get a new passport myself so that I can go back to the UK this year, hopefully!!

it doesn't matter what shows on the passport; any and all visa applications are kept on the system for 10 years, so failed ones will show up. This does not mean she will get rejected; if she fulfils the criteria she fell short on before, there shouldn't be a huge problem.

But would they show visas for other other countries?

Like if she is going to UK, do they care she was rejected from Australia.

V

Dont know but I dont think it will matter it the passport is new or not.

I guess most embassys have records on computers and they are bureaucrats so they´ll love if the papers are in order and filled out correctly. Good luck

As economy crisis continue, it will be harder to get visa easily as before, and I dont think that getting a new passport will solve thwe problem...luckily, my country get visa free for EU ...after a 20 long years...

sorry, good point Vlad; will only show visa apps for that country.

Feel badly for you friends May...

as it seems so uncomplected for us in the (US)

and I cannot see why there could be special concerns for Thai nationals

visiting ...even in these "explosive " times

i can speak for many...we will welcome any thai women visiting!

let's us know you ETA ) hell we let Iain visit too if he behaves!

i think even we make new passport. But the sysrtem will show our name anyway. Mayb its better to prepare all the document.paper work or the thing that prove to them that we will come back to Thailand for sure.

They have your old records no matter how many time you get a new passport.

V makes good point.

Yes V makes a good point, but u should hear about what happened....

This person asked for a multi-entry for Schengen visa at the Netherlands embassy so they asked her why. She said she'd also love to visit the U.K as well. Then, they asked her to go get the U.K. visa. Since she didn't get a visa to the U.K., and have got a "rejection" stamp on her passport, she personally thought that, the Netherlands embassy assumed that she would not be eligible to entry the country and gain the visa as well.

I think that it's better to get a new passport so the embassy, in case that they've only got a history record for its own country, would at least not see that "rejection" stamp on the back of the old passport.

Do you agree?

reallly. i didnt know that if u not get UK visa they will stamp REJECTIONS on your passport..... awwww/ äÃè´Õ¹éÒà¹ÕèÂ

Well it's a entry date stamp that ALL Embassies would put in the back of your passport when your visa was rejected. So next time when you ask for a visa, they could see when the last time your visa submission was and that you got rejected.

Europe (not UK) is now organized within Schengen unique visa. Each Schengen area country has a common minimum requirement to accept a visa, but ways to handle them vary little from one country to another one.

As well you fulfill the requirement, the visa is accepted or not.

When refused, they have to tell you why. So you can apply again as soon as you meet requirements...

New passport or not has nothing to see!

On each europe embassy sites, they explain which are visa requirments.

Swisterland is now within schengen states.

UK Home Office is very strict now. However, I've recently been told that, although the British Embassy did not approve your visa, you are still eligible to apply for Schengen, AND they will look at it case by case, not talking into account the rejected one.

These days, the Brit Embassy doesnt really make your life easier I can tell you. Home Office has changed so many rules and regulations. Some of them is very ridiculous as well though, I therefore wish your friend good luck!!

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Australians all let us rejoice for we are young and freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee !!

It seems quiet unfair that asian countrys seem to be exempt from easy Visa access.

In saying that im sure the governments justify it in some way shape or form..

I dont have the answer to your question May..

Was looking up info on Visa recent, when I applied for mine late last year. According to a lot of ppl on Pantip.com, new passport wouldn't help in getting the Visa approved, as many other ppl have mentioned, your record is stored in their system for at least 10 years.

The way to do it is to make sure that you have sufficient papers and evidence that would support your status, and to guarantee that you will be coming back to Thailand after the end of your trip. If the person still wanna continue the plan to visit both UK and the Netherlands, I recommend getting the UK visa first, because it is multiple entry.

I've never applied for Schengen Visa myself, but from what I heard/read, you need specific dates and address that you will be staying, which will help in getting the Visa approved.

If the person is still single, the most important evidence is the letter of employment. If you still have the job to come back to and sufficient fund (maybe 50% more than what you actually need, while traveling), the chance for you to get the Visa approved would still be high, although you have no sponsor.

Your sponsor is also another factor, if you are going to ask your boyfriend to be the sponsor, your chance of getting the Visa will be lower. Try to use a friend, or family, or your boyfriend's parents as your sponsor would help make it a bit easier. The last thing the EU governments want is to have more Asian girls moving to their countries.

I hope the above info helps.

getting a new passport is a very good idea.

if you have ever wanted to change your name, now is the time to do it. then with new name and pp you will stand a better chance of getting reviewed as a new / first time candidate. also go to different embassy if possible. aside from all that, you need a good job, good money, and ties here that will bring you back - family that depend on you (prove it), land you own, previous travel experience, and can explain the nature of your trip with exquisite detail, naming places people and money you budgeted for the trip. They want to see if you have reason to return; means to take care of yourself; financial means to handle any problems you might encounter; and a clear plan with real people and places while on the trip.

I guess having a new passport wouldn't hurt but I'm not sure if it helps. Once your name is in the system it's in the system. A new passport number doesn't change that and might even give a ambitious embassy staff a reason to ask why you applied under two different passports.

I think what PJack said is pretty much dead-on. They want to make sure you have a good reason to return to Thailand. They want to make sure you don't get the visa and disappear in their country working and living there illegally until they come find you. The more evidence that you can provide that shows that you have a good reason to come back to Thailand the better. House, good job, etc are all good reasons to return to Thailand.

Hate to say it, but BOD is making a lot of sense [for a change, as far as I would be concerned] and has offered excellent advice. New passport means nothing really as they go by your passport number- which does not change and is stored in a computer database, so they just pull up all your details to their screen etc etc. Governments also share this type of info liberally.

THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IN GETTING A VISA IS TO HAVE ENOUGH EVIDENCE THAT INDICATES YOU INTEND TO RETURN WITHIN THE DATES ALLOWED.

Just so long as you show that you are a genuine tourist you will be more than welcome by just about any immigration officers in any of the EU countries.

Simple fact is that there are many good reasons why people from Thailand would want to live in the EU as economic migrants [Given how wonderful Thailand is I think they are losing out by leaving Thailand in the first place!] and so unless the process was tough for people to show that they are just genuine tourists then the EU would be even flooded with economic migrants.

Put simply; it is highly unlikely that the vast majority of Thai people would be in any position to be able to go on a holiday in Europe - actually just a holiday within Thailand would be tough for most Thai people too so you would have to have a lot of convincing evidence to show you are indeed just a tourist with every intention of going back home, as agreed through the terms of your visa.

By contrast the average worker in most of the richer EU states could easily afford a holiday to Thailand every now and then.And it is very hard for them to stay beyond the 30 days given on their entry Visa. Ironically there are a lot of people from the EU who like to live in Thailand but they usually can support themselves so tend not to be a burden or interference with the labour market. Though many Farangs do tend to be a pain in the ass and often are the less desirable sort of people one would want to have in any country. Just hang out around Sukumwhite Soi 5 Soi 7 not too mention KSR if this seems harsh.

The whole VISA game does seem harsh or even unfair but then the world is full of inequality and injustice. Life is tough! Just have to try our best to cope with it all.

I would get new passport. I did once because I stayed in Singapore long time without work permit so had to leave country and go back very very frequently and it didn't look good after a few years. So I report lost of my passport to police station and bring this report and other necessary docs to apply for new passport. I think it took 4 days or next day excuse my memory :-)

Then after that I have been traveling with good looking record on my passport !!!