Loburt Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 Well, if you've personally had bad experiences with them, what can I say? But until this thread, I've never heard a complaint about Israeli tourists here in Thailand from any Thai or foreigner. Granted, I don't vacation at Koh Samui. I've heard lots of complaints about other groups, but not them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stramash Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 You know Loburt - what it may be from my perspective is the whole good manners things - I hate seeing people with poor or bad manners - and though I have seen bad behaviour from virtually every nationality (dont even get me started on Australians shitting in bushes!!) but the worst manners were always the young Israelis. Perhaps it is the Goa thing all over again, and the worst behaviour is seen at backpacker central of Samui and Phan Ngang?? :twisted: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmyfan Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 Which nation's tourists are most disliked?Don't blame me. Just found this on Yahoo. Most Obnoxious Tourists? The French By BRUCE CRUMLEY / PARIS Sun Jul 6, 10:45 PM ET Remember the tightwad tourist whose baggy shorts, frequent complaining and shouted questions about why none of the locals spoke any English made the ugly American the world's Visitor From Hell? Well, it's time for Archie Bunker to move over and make way for Petulant Pierre. According to a recent international survey, the French are now considered the most obnoxious tourists from European nations, and behind only Indians and the last-place Chinese as the worst among all countries worldwide. And it's not only the rest of the world that have a gripe with the Gallic attitude: the French also finished second to last among nations ranking the popularity of their own tourists who vacation at home. But it's the unflattering image being reflected from abroad that may give pause to the millions of French travelers now heading off to summer vacation destinations across the globe. Will that move them to improve behavior the poll characterized as impolite, prone to loud carping and inattentive to local customs? If so, that's just the start: the study also describes the voyageur franÇais as often unwilling or unable to communicate in foreign languages, and particularly disinclined to spending money when they don't have to - including on those non compris tips. Over all, French travelers landed 19th out of 21 nations worldwide, far behind the first-place Japanese, considered most polite, quiet and tidy. Following the Japanese as most-liked tourists were the Germans, British and Canadians. Americans finished in 11th place alongside the Thais. The survey was carried out among employees in 4,000 hotels in Germany, the U.K., Italy, France, Canada and the U.S. for the French travel website Expedia.fr. The study asked respondents to rank clients by nationality on criteria of general attitude, politeness, tendency to complain, willingness to speak local languages, interest in sampling local cuisine, readiness to spend money, generosity, cleanliness, discretion and elegance. Many replies simply conformed to long-established reputations: Italians, for example, were described as the best-dressed tourists, with the French not far behind. American tourists fared well in some surprising ways: despite being notoriously language-limited, for example, they top the list of tourists credited with trying to speak local languages the most, with the French, Chinese, Japanese, Italians and Russians coming in last in the local language rankings. Does that mean Americans are the most polyglot tourists on the planet? Maybe not, says Expedia's marketing director for Europe, TimothÉe de Roux, who notes the poll's focus on hotel operators may explain the counterintuitive outcome. "Most hotel staffs around the world speak English, meaning they'll communicate far more easily with native English-speaking American or British clients than with French or Italians who - it's true - are pretty bad with foreign languages," de Roux says. De Roux explains how external factors similarly account for why Americans wind up as the biggest-spending and best-tipping tourists, while Germans and the French are among the worst penny-pinchers. "Our findings show the average French employee will get 37 vacation days spread over seven trips in 2008, versus 14 for an American - who won't even take them all," de Roux believes. "That means the French tourist will more tightly budget his or her spending over more trips, while the American spends freely on the one or two vacations taken all year." By contrast, poll finds the French and Americans similar in being perceived as critical and rude when they travel - though for different reasons. The same local attractions that make France the world's top destination for 92 million foreign visitors each year, says de Roux, also explains why over 85% of French vacation in-country - and wind up spoiled by it when they leave. "When they go abroad, French travellers demand the same quality they'd get at home," de Roux says. "Americans, by contrast, demand the same exceptional service they are used to at home, which is why they rank as the loudest, most inclined to complain, and among the least polite." View this article on Time.com Oui monsieur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loburt Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 Possibly. I mean, the Full Moon Parties are not something that is my speed, that's for sure. The one time I was there, I found most people to be of the rude variety. And I'm not a fan of Samui either. Now I'll probably get reamed for that. But I would have thought I would have heard complaints about Israelis from my friends who work or hang out around Khao Sarn, but I never have. But maybe some of them have had bad experiences and just never mentioned it. Don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stramash Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 wont get hassle from me for Samui comments!! There for 2 years and god it went downhill quick in that time and before :twisted: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiamHotel Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 sama sama butT different Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiamHotel Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 did you manage to lose some weight "in the process" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiamHotel Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 ... bC ja ? :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babyoiy Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 95% of Chinese tourist I have seen were quite noisy and they dont seem to know what is 'Queing' mean. Plus they always gathered together and that's the worst!. If I see them somewhere, I always avoid to go close to them. I believe that it's more about education+culture not about rich or poor really for Chinese. Once, just recently I was sitting next to a Chinese couple and a chinese family on the next table, having my breakfast at Millnm.Hilton. I noticed that they are quiet for Chinese but still a bit loud compare to westerner and they love toothpick a lot.. It was a better image of Chinese in Asia Hotel or in Pattaya. They are mid-age so I think they are modern chinese(u know what I mean), how they act are acceptable to me. At Asia Hotel, main clients are Chinese.. Once I happened to stay in the same area with Chinese tourists. They left the door opened and they talked (shout) to each other while the kids ran to every room like they were at home. I wont talk about when I was having my breakfast there, I know you can guess! Staying in a brand name hotel maybe show that they are not budget tourist but I understand that typical Chinese doesn't like to spend money anyway even they got load! (to support what I think that being rich or poor is not effect how they act like their culture). It's not fair for Chinese that most ppl think about them in this way. I meant all Chinese since I cant realy tell if they're Chinese-Chinese/Korean/Taiwanese etc). And I dont want to judge ppl like this but every nationalities got some reputation.. From my own experience I found that it's difficult to hang out with French. PS: Which is the worst? sharing the elevator with noisy or smelly ones? (Should I start a new thread? lol) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu_thailand Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 Really?That's certainly not the case here in Thailand. Nor is that what any of the previously posted articles are finding either. Maybe you shouldn't let your political biases influence how you judge people. :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: Breath :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldMember Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 From my own experience I found that it's difficult to hang out with French. A EEC-global problem we can all sympathise with .Its only the Germans who can manage(albeit on a diplomatic basis) and they're just really interested in humping Sarkozy's missus . PS: Which is the wor st? sharing the elevator with noisy or smelly ones? (Should I start a new thread? lol) Hmm ...big BIG topic.New thread ja Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zeusbheld Posted August 5, 2008 Report Share Posted August 5, 2008 would maybe change ALL to MOST Zeus. I used to work for TUI (very large travel company) and would probably agree that around 80% of all tourists are pretty obnoxious!! ... i think i qualified it more than adequately by stating that i meant "at least the ones you can identify by behavior or fashion sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primetime Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 Funny, when I was in Cambodia without any prompting my tour guide announced he can not stand Chinese tourist....for starters too noisy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave40 Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 (dont even get me started on Australians shitting in bushes!!) Didn't you know we don't have toilets down here?!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotne1 Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 Ah yes no manner people, they are the best.... Yesterday as I was standing in line at 7-11 to buy a chocolate bar I had one guy push infront of me, and then another, and I went from 1st in line to third. So i waited for the counter girl to call to me to take my purchase first but she didnt she just took the rude idiot first in line.I just left the store and didnt buy the chocolate... Now if I was back in Canada, I probably would have taken that guys arm, twisted it around his back, thrown him out on the sidewalk and kicked him in the ribs, well mabey not but some guy would have eventualy, or the counter girl or the other people in the store would have told him he was an idiot and get to the back of the line, point is someone would have taught him some manners eventualy. That is the price of tollerance i guess, Thailand is so tolerant and back home were not. Being intolerant is a great way to teach people manners though. Send those rude toursist to Canada for a month, or probably most Ferrang countries, we will teach them all some manners. Real problem is they have had a lifetime of getting away with being rude and they dont know any better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damnam1 Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 there is brillant wise word in Thai language that has a lot of variations and it all has to do with "heart" - djai. considerate - graeng djai cool - djai yen hurt-djep djai Some more examples here: http://www.thaifreak.de/Sprache/Woerter_herz.htm There are dozends of descriptions in Thai language and they are all linked to the word "Heart". Strange, isnt it ? Maybe this is one explanation why Thai people are having mre respect than other nations - and I like this attitude very much. Back home I can see the lack of respect in every aspect of daily life and I wished there would be a little more " heart" instead of "brain".. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babyoiy Posted August 6, 2008 Report Share Posted August 6, 2008 Of course Germans are the bloody quietist - they are always busy sleeping by the pool, on the sun loungers that they send their kids out to 'reserve' at 6am every morning!!! Actually we send our kids at 5:30am - just to make it sure before the english kids get up I know now why it always fully booked.. I never get ready before 9am really, one reason to wake up and get dress coz buffet breakfast close at 10.30am I will see if I can reserve before I go to bed next time :twisted: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakeGeneve Posted August 7, 2008 Report Share Posted August 7, 2008 Bloody Aussie tourists are just as bad p***ed all the time on holiday, loud mouthed, no idea about culture, and many who cannot read!!!!!!!!!! :twisted: Completely true....and they speka da inglish so badly that Lonely Planet has a language guide for people visiting Australia! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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