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Doesn't money speak all languages!!!?? :lol::lol::lol:

yes it does! but what kind of relationship are you going to gain?

Yes and all you end up with is loose "chang". Intentionally left out the "e".

:shock:

How will you feel to be treated like an ATM and not even interested with your personality?

Pretty bad really but it might depend on which of my buttons were being pushed!

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There is always coomminication problems even if both speak the same language.

agree !!! but yes it is one part of problem between 2 person who speak diffirent language ..... actually i prefer to use Love language hehehehe :lol:

Sounds good. How do you translate...

"my mother's coming to town for a week, so we need to tidy the place up a bit, and clear out the spare room"

"she's gonna stay here? i think we better talk about that, it's formula one weekend and i don't want to miss any races"

Is it something like "oooooooooooh, ah ah ah ah ah AAAAAAAAAAH! oh oh oooooooooooooooh eugh eugh" ?

my conversations usually don't get past the first oh ...... :D:D

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I feel one of the biggest problems Thai and 'western' have is not only the language but that, due to culture, people say different things at different times.

Mai pen rai sort of means 'it's not import' or 'it doesn't matter' and to the average straight talking English guy he takes this on face value.

But I feel it CAN mean 'it doesn't matter, i won't say it matters but i hope you see it does, it REALLY does matter but I am am culturally obliged to not say a bad thing to you cuz it might hurt you feelings, work it out for yourself' and a host of other things depending on the situation.

These factors more than the language it's self cause the misunderstandings IMO........... But I could be wrong.

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I feel one of the biggest problems Thai and 'western' have is not only the language but that, due to culture, people say different things at different times.

Good point. At times a Thai girl might say to her bf (in the language of love of course)

"eugh egh egh ah ah ah oooooooooooooh!"

becuase she's trying to kreng jai him, when in fact it would be more direct of her to just say

"ah ah eugh"

which is nearer what she really meant.

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I feel one of the biggest problems Thai and 'western' have is not only the language but that, due to culture, people say different things at different times.

Mai pen rai sort of means 'it's not import' or 'it doesn't matter' and to the average straight talking English guy he takes this on face value.

But I feel it CAN mean 'it doesn't matter, i won't say it matters but i hope you see it does, it REALLY does matter but I am am culturally obliged to not say a bad thing to you cuz it might hurt you feelings, work it out for yourself' and a host of other things depending on the situation.

These factors more than the language it's self cause the misunderstandings IMO........... But I could be wrong.

come on ... same happens in the west .... u ask a girl what's wrong .... she says "nothing" ....u know she's pissed but still "nothing is wrong"

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How important is communication in a relationship?

How willing are you to learn his/her language?

Communication is important in everything. But I think we often forgot that communication isn?t only ?talking?. Body language is also communication and even silent is communication also. I don?t have to talk all the time with my hub but I communicate with all the time, or at least I think I do.

Learning your partner language is benefits but it depends on where you live, IMO. If my hub and I live in Thailand he should learn Thai. But we live in DK that?s why I learn his language and I gain many things because of that.

An excellent point from p'Nicky. Body language (and especially interpreting that of my clients) is a huge part of my work; it can gauge a person's honesty, their feelings, their mood etc.

But even body language changes nuances from country to country, but is easier to learn the basics of!! :D

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An excellent point from p'Nicky. Body language (and especially interpreting that of my clients) is a huge part of my work; it can gauge a person's honesty, their feelings, their mood etc.

But even body language changes nuances from country to country, but is easier to learn the basics of!! :D

Agree!!!! Body language depends on culture. My ex-bf is a Bulgarian and his body language confused me. He shakes his head when he means ?yes? and nods when ?no?. :roll:

Now that's just bloody silly!!!

Particular examples I can think of for Thailand are of course the various forms of Wai, depending on who you are talking to, the showing of soles of feet, and the 'ruffling of hair' type activities (?!)

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I feel one of the biggest problems Thai and 'western' have is not only the language but that, due to culture, people say different things at different times.

Mai pen rai sort of means 'it's not import' or 'it doesn't matter' and to the average straight talking English guy he takes this on face value.

But I feel it CAN mean 'it doesn't matter, i won't say it matters but i hope you see it does, it REALLY does matter but I am am culturally obliged to not say a bad thing to you cuz it might hurt you feelings, work it out for yourself' and a host of other things depending on the situation.

These factors more than the language it's self cause the misunderstandings IMO........... But I could be wrong.

come on ... same happens in the west .... u ask a girl what's wrong .... she says "nothing" ....u know she's pissed but still "nothing is wrong"

It's different here, more complex and these girls are better at not challenging stuff, procrastinating and keeping it in until the bomb goes off.

In the UK it is different.

Culture and when you say something not just when you say causes ****.

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come on ... same happens in the west .... u ask a girl what's wrong .... she says "nothing" ....u know she's pissed but still "nothing is wrong"

It's different here, more complex and these girls are better at not challenging stuff, procrastinating and keeping it in until the bomb goes off.

In the UK it is different.

As to my country (Germany) I agree with the position that it's different. Thai girls sometimes speak less with words. Alternatively they express themselves by body-language, action or non-action (passiv aggressiv) and subtile hints. And just like Dr_Sassy mentioned before, even telepathy and clairvoyance are important - and surprisingly work quite well. Actually I don't know if Dr_Sassy was serious with that - I am.

Another "Language Barrier" has to do with this 'not lose face thing'. E.g. if person A did something wrong and person B knows that, and person A knows that person B knows, it's often better not to beat a dead horse and not to mention too much but just give a restrained hint. The time when I worked in Thailand the most important thing for me to learn was to be very cautious with critics or any uncomfortable topics - in the office as well as in close relationships.

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i guess its all about personal standards...

Communicating with hands and feet is a bit to less for me. Not much into baby language.

Its an important thing in a long term relationship to be able to talk and get to know each other better than 'you okay? you hungry? '

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i guess its all about personal standards...

Communicating with hands and feet is a bit to less for me. Not much into baby language.

Its an important thing in a long term relationship to be able to talk and get to know each other better than 'you okay? you hungry? '

You wanna spend the night with me tonight?! :lol:

Cherie!

Taleung!

Ok, but can I lick you all over until you fall asleep ja?

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i guess its all about personal standards...

Communicating with hands and feet is a bit to less for me. Not much into baby language.

Its an important thing in a long term relationship to be able to talk and get to know each other better than 'you okay? you hungry? '

You wanna spend the night with me tonight?! :lol:

Cherie!

Taleung!

Ok, but can I lick you all over until you fall asleep ja?

pleaaaaaaaaaase - I am cooking dinner; that is one mental image that will haunt me for, well, minutes at least... :lol:

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seems like someone miss understood the meaning of body language

Right. Various forms of nonverbal communication usually are an important and natural part of human relationships, and are btw. highly efficient. Everybody knows about the value of an eye movement, a certain smile, a passing shrug of the shoulders, raised eyebrows etc. Bad news for Botox-users ;-)

My personal standard of a close, warm, honest, relaxed and empathic relationship definitely requires a lot of body-language!

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There is always coomminication problems even if both speak the same language.

agree !!! but yes it is one part of problem between 2 person who speak diffirent language ..... actually i prefer to use Love language hehehehe :lol:

Sounds good. How do you translate...

"my mother's coming to town for a week, so we need to tidy the place up a bit, and clear out the spare room"

"she's gonna stay here? i think we better talk about that, it's formula one weekend and i don't want to miss any races"

Is it something like "oooooooooooh, ah ah ah ah ah AAAAAAAAAAH! oh oh oooooooooooooooh eugh eugh" ?

Just get a maid, I know both parties would like that. I am sure there would be a bonus to that.(see above)

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2 or 3 years ago, I?ve date a guy from Europe, Mr. Helsinki, we met at Fuji, Rama 4. At first I thought he?s a calm and quiet guy. I realized that his dark blue eyes showing how much he admired me while keep babbling about myself on and on. When I asked about him, as if he try to move his lips but not a word of English.

Me: what work you do?

Mr. Helsinki: I?m own Carlsberg

Me: I mean, what work are u doing? Your work? Your occupation

Mr. Helsinki: I?m own Carlsberg

Me: you mean, you are the owner of Carlsberg Company?

Mr. Helsinki: Yes, Yes. (Big smile)

Me: you are the owner of Carlsberg Company?

Mr. Helsinki: Yes, yes. (Proudly smiling)

Me: OK. YOU ARE THE OWNER OF CARLSBERG BEER COMPANY?

Mr. Helsinki: YES, YES, YES, YES. (BROADLY SMILING)

Oh Gosh, knowing we would never go any further, since he can speak only yes and I understand. And the way he said he the owner of Carlsberg Company, it?s really make me??... since noticed his shorts & Sleeve less shirt and his sandals, as if he bought them since 2 and a half years ago.

My English is already poor but if he is poorer it should be the end of era. There is no compromising?and it?s not fun really? :roll: :roll:

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Nothing is worse than sitting in a middle of a group of guys (or group of girls) yapping away in the alien language you have absolutely no idea what they are talking about, you just starring at them and smile. Or there is? You get the picture.

That's always happening here, me and my friends try to speak English most of the time when a foreigner is with us and my Thai friends speak English and Thai because they know I can use both and to practice my Thai language as well.

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Nothing is worse than sitting in a middle of a group of guys (or group of girls) yapping away in the alien language you have absolutely no idea what they are talking about, you just starring at them and smile. Or there is? You get the picture.

That's always happening here, me and my friends try to speak English most of the time when a foreigner is with us and my Thai friends speak English and Thai because they know I can use both and to practice my Thai language as well.

That is good. Because i think it is rude to person being left out.

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Nothing is worse than sitting in a middle of a group of guys (or group of girls) yapping away in the alien language you have absolutely no idea what they are talking about, you just starring at them and smile. Or there is? You get the picture.

That's always happening here, me and my friends try to speak English most of the time when a foreigner is with us and my Thai friends speak English and Thai because they know I can use both and to practice my Thai language as well.

That is good. Because i think it is rude to person being left out.

But I met a foreigner whose living here for more than ten years now and can't even make a simple Thai conversation and he said it's not important for him. But when I took him out for dinner one night we was so fascinated with the food I ordered, so I guess it is important in any aspect of our life.

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But I met a foreigner whose living here for more than ten years now and can't even make a simple Thai conversation and he said it's not important for him. But when I took him out for dinner one night we was so fascinated with the food I ordered, so I guess it is important in any aspect of our life.

Not speaking the language of the country in which you live is like living in a plastic bubble... there's an invisible barrier between you and everything going on around you.

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But I met a foreigner whose living here for more than ten years now and can't even make a simple Thai conversation and he said it's not important for him. But when I took him out for dinner one night we was so fascinated with the food I ordered, so I guess it is important in any aspect of our life.

Not speaking the language of the country in which you live is like living in a plastic bubble... there's an invisible barrier between you and everything going on around you.

Once he told me that him and his Thai wife don't have big issues about their relationship and I think it's because his wife cannot argue with him because she couldn't express herself properly. But I can't blame him either because his wife accepted that he won't bother to learn Thai language and tolerate him by doing things for him all the time.

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Once he told me that him and his Thai wife don't have big issues about their relationship and I think it's because his wife cannot argue with him because she couldn't express herself properly. But I can't blame him either because his wife accepted that he won't bother to learn Thai language and tolerate him by doing things for him all the time.

Male domination. Apparently it does work for some people i knew. Give them food, clean cloth, sex and babies. Intelligent, intellectual conversation leave it to the Bros. NOT came home last night? NO Problem! here is a shopping money/ louis vuitton bag, enjoy.

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